Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I'll play safe and have a shot of tequila Donna Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:02:26 Re: silly but serious question Oh, and then there's the issue with beer. Some beer companies use isinglass which is made from fish for what are called finings which are used for clarification or to speed up the clearing of the beer. I guess wine companies use finings too but I don't know if they use fish based finings. I believe Guinness uses fish scales for finings " Fining is the process of added a substance that attracts solid matter suspendde in the liquid to form a clump that will settle at the bottom of the container. The most common fining agents are bentonite and isinglass. Bentonite is a type of clay, so it is vegetarian. Isinglass is made from fish, so that is where the story originates. Fining agents are removed by racking and filtering, but trace amounts of the fining agents are left. Less commong fining agents include carragean. Historically, other substances have been used besides bentonite and isinglass, such as egg yolks and ox blood. These are generally not used any more, due to heath concerns. Guiness is not a vegetarian beer (big page) because it uses isinglass. (Note that that page has a major error on it -- it assumes all finings are animal products, which is not true.) " <http://msgboard. <http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=108;t=000815;\ p=1> snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=108;t=000815;p=1> And yes, I will occasionally but very rarely have a glass of Guinness. It is moderately difficult to not either eat or have in your house some product based on animals. Cows -> collagen -> collagen-based adhesives -> used in Sheetrock http://www.geocitie <http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2310/parts_cow.html> s.com/HotSprings/Spa/2310/parts_cow.html If I'm wrong please tell me and I'll be so much happier . . . Gary --- Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly@ <gsmattingly%40> > wrote: > I don't eat marshmallows with gelatin in > them or any candy with gelatin in it. > I don't buy cheese with animal rennet in > it. I must admit eating a pizza now and > then that we don't make at home and I > don't ask whether the cheese uses non-animal > rennet. Cheese without rennet can be > either hard to find or hard to figure > out. Sometimes it just says enzymes and > when I ask some grocery people tell me it is > not animal based and some tell me it is. > Therefore I usually wind up not buying it. > I can usually find some at Whole Foods > and now I notice Safeway is carrying some > also. > > Gary > > --- Steph <mrswalp29 (AT) (DOT) <mrswalp29%40> com> wrote: > > > my husband and I got into a very lengthily > > conversation about vegetarianism last night and it > > > left me with a question I would like to dissect > here > > in the group. If you eat cheese with enzymes in it > > or marshmallows with gelatin in it are you still > to > > consider yourself a vegetarian? I am been a veggie > > for 3 years but each day I am learning more and > more > > products that contain animal (or bugs) in them I > try > > to avoid them once I become aware but. the > problem > > I have in VT is things like marshmallows vegan > ones > > are something I would have to order, cheese is > > another ordeal the list that are rennet free are > > hard to find. So what are your > > thoughts.................. > > Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 In a message dated 7/26/2007 12:20:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thelilacflower writes: I'll play safe and have a shot of tequila what about the worm? <snicker> Amy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 That sounds like a good idea but I like scotch too, preferably a good Highland type scotch, one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . meanwhile on the ipod, " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. synchronicity . . . Gary Make you want holler hi-de-ho --- thelilacflower wrote: > I'll play safe and have a shot of tequila > Donna > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly > > Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:02:26 > > Re: silly but serious > question > > > Oh, and then there's the issue with beer. > Some beer companies use isinglass which is > made from fish for what are called finings > which are used for clarification or to speed > up the clearing of the beer. I guess wine companies > use finings too but I don't know if they use > fish based finings. I believe Guinness uses > fish scales for finings > > " Fining is the process of added a substance that > attracts solid matter suspendde in the liquid to > form > a clump that will settle at the bottom of the > container. The most common fining agents are > bentonite > and isinglass. Bentonite is a type of clay, so it > is > vegetarian. Isinglass is made from fish, so that is > where the story originates. Fining agents are > removed > by racking and filtering, but trace amounts of the > fining agents are left. > > Less commong fining agents include carragean. > Historically, other substances have been used > besides > bentonite and isinglass, such as egg yolks and ox > blood. These are generally not used any more, due > to > heath concerns. > > Guiness is not a vegetarian beer (big page) because > it > uses isinglass. (Note that that page has a major > error > on it -- it assumes all finings are animal > products, > which is not true.) " > > <http://msgboard. > <http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=108;t=000815;\ p=1> > snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=108;t=000815;p=1> > > And yes, I will occasionally but very rarely > have a glass of Guinness. It is moderately > difficult to not either eat or have in your > house some product based on animals. > > Cows -> collagen -> collagen-based adhesives > -> used in Sheetrock > > http://www.geocitie > <http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2310/parts_cow.html> > s.com/HotSprings/Spa/2310/parts_cow.html > > If I'm wrong please tell me and I'll be > so much happier . . . > > Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 ---- akfral 7/26/2007 1:56:39 PM Re: Re: Gary silly but serious question Gary In a message dated 7/26/2007 12:20:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thelilacflower writes: I'll play safe and have a shot of tequila what about the worm? <snicker> Amy Actually, as a takillya (yeah, I know) drinker, I can tell you that there are no worms in tequila. The worm is found in mezcal, a related but different beverage. So, go ahead and drink your tequila without worry. (g) Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ah, but whiskey starts as beer, doesn't it? Though I doubt they fine it since it's going to be distilled anyway, so you're probably alright. :-) -ginger amateur brewer married to a single-malt fan On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, wrote: > That sounds like a good idea but > I like scotch too, preferably a > good Highland type scotch, > one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . > > meanwhile on the ipod, > " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. > > synchronicity . . . > > Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I guess I will have to check but I certainly can't throw out what I have in the cabinet, eh? Probably not fined, I hope! I've done a little home brewing myself. I have three hops plants growing on the back fence. No flowers yet I don't think. I grow mugwort too and I think I've read that that has been used in beer too. I probably even have a book around here that tells me how to use it. One of these days . . . Gary --- Ginger Fitzsimmons <matildalucet wrote: > Ah, but whiskey starts as beer, doesn't it? Though I > doubt they fine it > since it's going to be distilled anyway, so you're > probably alright. > :-) > > -ginger > amateur brewer > married to a single-malt fan > > > On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, > wrote: > > > That sounds like a good idea but > > I like scotch too, preferably a > > good Highland type scotch, > > one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . > > > > meanwhile on the ipod, > > " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. > > > > synchronicity . . . > > > > Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Gary so many projects so little time, huh? Donna --- Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > I guess I will have to check but I certainly > can't throw out what I have in the cabinet, eh? > Probably not fined, I hope! > > I've done a little home brewing myself. > I have three hops plants growing on the back > fence. No flowers yet I don't think. I grow > mugwort too and I think I've read that that > has been used in beer too. I probably even > have a book around here that tells me how > to use it. One of these days . . . > > Gary > > --- Ginger Fitzsimmons <matildalucet > wrote: > > > Ah, but whiskey starts as beer, doesn't it? Though > I > > doubt they fine it > > since it's going to be distilled anyway, so you're > > probably alright. > > :-) > > > > -ginger > > amateur brewer > > married to a single-malt fan > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, > > wrote: > > > > > That sounds like a good idea but > > > I like scotch too, preferably a > > > good Highland type scotch, > > > one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . > > > > > > meanwhile on the ipod, > > > " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. > > > > > > synchronicity . . . > > > > > > Gary > > Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. - Berthold Auerbach - ______________________________\ ____ Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/norton/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 --- Donnalilacflower <thelilacflower wrote: > Gary so many projects so little time, huh? > Donna Exactly! I also had this thought to take photos of the knives I've collected but haven't quite gotten around to that either. Pictures of the very small number of early edition Oz books I have would be fun too. Fun covers. Gary > --- Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > > I guess I will have to check but I certainly > > can't throw out what I have in the cabinet, eh? > > Probably not fined, I hope! > > > > I've done a little home brewing myself. > > I have three hops plants growing on the back > > fence. No flowers yet I don't think. I grow > > mugwort too and I think I've read that that > > has been used in beer too. I probably even > > have a book around here that tells me how > > to use it. One of these days . . . > > > > Gary > > > > --- Ginger Fitzsimmons > <matildalucet > > wrote: > > > > > Ah, but whiskey starts as beer, doesn't it? > Though > > I > > > doubt they fine it > > > since it's going to be distilled anyway, so > you're > > > probably alright. > > > :-) > > > > > > -ginger > > > amateur brewer > > > married to a single-malt fan > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, > > > wrote: > > > > > > > That sounds like a good idea but > > > > I like scotch too, preferably a > > > > good Highland type scotch, > > > > one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . > > > > > > > > meanwhile on the ipod, > > > > " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. > > > > > > > > synchronicity . . . > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > Music washes away from the soul > the dust of everyday life. > - Berthold Auerbach - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I know what you mean, my kitties will be full grown by the time I download the pictures of them from my digital. Happy Weekend! Donna --- Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > --- Donnalilacflower <thelilacflower > wrote: > > > Gary so many projects so little time, huh? > > Donna > > Exactly! I also had this thought to take photos > of the knives I've collected but haven't quite > gotten around to that either. Pictures of the > very small number of early edition Oz books I > have would be fun too. Fun covers. > > Gary > > > --- Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > > > > I guess I will have to check but I certainly > > > can't throw out what I have in the cabinet, eh? > > > Probably not fined, I hope! > > > > > > I've done a little home brewing myself. > > > I have three hops plants growing on the back > > > fence. No flowers yet I don't think. I grow > > > mugwort too and I think I've read that that > > > has been used in beer too. I probably even > > > have a book around here that tells me how > > > to use it. One of these days . . . > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > --- Ginger Fitzsimmons > > <matildalucet > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Ah, but whiskey starts as beer, doesn't it? > > Though > > > I > > > > doubt they fine it > > > > since it's going to be distilled anyway, so > > you're > > > > probably alright. > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > -ginger > > > > amateur brewer > > > > married to a single-malt fan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > That sounds like a good idea but > > > > > I like scotch too, preferably a > > > > > good Highland type scotch, > > > > > one from Balvenie, Aberlour, Macallan . . . > > > > > > > > > > meanwhile on the ipod, > > > > > " Chug-A-Lug " by Roger Miller. > > > > > > > > > > synchronicity . . . > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > Music washes away from the soul > > the dust of everyday life. > > - Berthold Auerbach - > > Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. - Berthold Auerbach - ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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