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In a message dated 8/18/03 6:34:02 AM,

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> VaMpYrEsS JeSsIkA wrote:

> I'd rather be a smoker than have heart diease or diabetes.

>

>

> Sooo, lung disease, cancer, emphysema, and a shortened life span

> is better than staying on a diet??  -- I do not comprehend your logic

> with that statement!

>

i'd have to agree with pixx on this one. it's great that you were able to

wean yourself off of heavy drugs-- congratulations on kicking that habit! but

smoking is almost as bad for you, not to mention those around you (second

hand smoke is no picnic for the lungs, and the people around you don't have much

of a choice but to breathe it in when you choose to light up). not smoking

doesn't mean you'll gain weight -- and there are plenty of obese smokers out

there, too. there is plenty you can do through diet and exercise to keep your

weight at a healthy level. lung disease, on the other hand...

 

melody

 

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plenty can be done about the weight gain. like i said in a previous email,

i'd much rather have the weight gain because that's something that can be

taken care of with willpower and determination and a healthy diet (and

medical help if necessary and needed). you can't exactly get shed heart

disease like a lot of pounds once you have it. Why pollute your body with

that crap anyway? The body is something God gave us to cherish, not to

trash with cigarette smoking or other abuses. I mean isn't that one of the

reasons why many of us went vegetarian, to eat healthier and take care of

our bodies? Why negate all the good benefits with something else that is

clearly unhealthy? Benefits of weight supression not withstanding. Plus,

do you really want emphysema, C.O.P.D., and coal miner lungs later in life?

Link to a site about it included

(http://www.presmark.com/htmlfile/pictures.htm).

 

Megan

 

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" VaMpYrEsS JeSsIkA " <xxx_vampyress_jessika_xxx

 

Monday, August 18, 2003 1:26 PM

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> Yeah, but I don't really care. I'm more worried about gaining weight than

getting heart diease.

>

> Jessika

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I have the most addictive behaviors though. I started smoking when I was 13

years old but I wasn't smoking a whole lot back then. Just stealing ciggies

from my dad. Parents were upset when they found out but they learned to live

with it. As I mentioned before, my dad is a smoker but my mom isn't. He said

he'd quit smoking after he married my mother but it never happened. He has quit

or weened himself off of that but he goes back to how he was before. I know

second hand smoke is bad but there's two smokers in my house and no non smokers.

Just me and my bf. My mom hates it when I smoke in her van but I do it when I'm

with her. My dad does the same thing. Like when he takes her van, he'll just

smoke in it. He probably does it more than I do now but I know it's still not

good. I just can't control my cravings for tobacco. It's like an alcoholic who

can't control their cravings for alcohol. I have been there as well.

 

Jessika

 

Nadiana1 wrote:

 

In a message dated 8/18/03 6:34:02 AM,

writes:

 

 

> VaMpYrEsS JeSsIkA wrote:

> I'd rather be a smoker than have heart diease or diabetes.

>

>

> Sooo, lung disease, cancer, emphysema, and a shortened life span

> is better than staying on a diet?? -- I do not comprehend your logic

> with that statement!

>

i'd have to agree with pixx on this one. it's great that you were able to

wean yourself off of heavy drugs-- congratulations on kicking that habit! but

smoking is almost as bad for you, not to mention those around you (second

hand smoke is no picnic for the lungs, and the people around you don't have much

of a choice but to breathe it in when you choose to light up). not smoking

doesn't mean you'll gain weight -- and there are plenty of obese smokers out

there, too. there is plenty you can do through diet and exercise to keep your

weight at a healthy level. lung disease, on the other hand...

 

melody

 

http://www.melodysmusic.net

 

 

 

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, VaMpYrEsS JeSsIkA

<xxx_vampyress_jessika_xxx> wrote:

> I have the most addictive behaviors though.

 

<snip>

 

I just can't control my cravings for tobacco. It's like an

alcoholic who can't control their cravings for alcohol. I have been

there as well.

 

 

 

Are you going to choose to be a victim of your cravings and

addictions or a survivor?

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I'm not quiting now but I might sometime.

 

Jessika

 

Sheryl <ssarndt wrote:

, VaMpYrEsS JeSsIkA

<xxx_vampyress_jessika_xxx> wrote:

> I have the most addictive behaviors though.

 

<snip>

 

I just can't control my cravings for tobacco. It's like an

alcoholic who can't control their cravings for alcohol. I have been

there as well.

 

 

 

Are you going to choose to be a victim of your cravings and

addictions or a survivor?

 

 

 

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>I have! been there as well.

 

If you quit that, you can quit smoking as well. Try to get your bf to quit with

you.

~Janice~

Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way!

 

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.

-Eleanor Roosevelt-

 

" Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely "

 

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.

~Paul McCartney ~

 

 

 

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He won't listen to me when I mention trying to quit smoking.

 

Jessika

 

~Janice~ <serenity1 wrote:

>I have! been there as well.

 

If you quit that, you can quit smoking as well. Try to get your bf to quit with

you.

~Janice~

Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way!

 

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.

-Eleanor Roosevelt-

 

" Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely "

 

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.

~Paul McCartney ~

 

 

 

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> I'm not quiting now but I might sometime.

>

> Jessika

 

My first response to seeing this, finally, was 'Oh good, now let's all

get on with things!' Not a sympathetic response, I agree ;=( but, you

know, I really do wonder at people who continue with something they know

is bad for them - whether it is an activity, certain foods, an

addiction, a relationship. *And* when they argue against good advice

(and Jessika has had some excellent advise here!), then I really wonder

;=) Self-induced victimhood?

 

However, right now I choose to believe that illness is causing this

particular irrational behaviour - that and needing nicotine because of

being unable to smoke due to coughing - and I wish you well, Jessika,

truly well so that you won't be coughing anymore and will be able to

look after your future health.

 

If it's of any value to you, I too was a smoker - and I stopped smoking

more than twenty years ago.

 

And *now* I will get on with things! *LOL*

 

Best,

Pat

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* " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul

of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had

been born into the world to enjoy. " - Plutarch

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>He won't listen to me when I mention trying to quit smoking.

 

Someone on the list has already suggested that you dump him. You said you love

him to much for that. I don't really know what to tell you. I guess if it's

important enough you'll quit smoking with or without him quitting. I wish there

was more I could tell you. I wish you a lot of luck.

~Janice~

Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way!

 

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.

-Eleanor Roosevelt-

 

" Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely "

 

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.

~Paul McCartney ~

 

 

 

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My mother didn't dump my father for his smoking habbit. I guess it's because

she loves him but she was never a smoker to begin with. My bfs comes from a

family of non smokers too. He's the only smoker in his family so when we're

over at his parents house, they make us go outside to smoke. When I was in the

hospital, they let us go out for smoke breaks. I saw doctors smoking. You'd

think that those people would be more concious of their health. I say if a

person wants to stop smoking then it's up to them. If not then it's their

choice.

 

Jessika

 

~Janice~ <serenity1 wrote:

>He won't listen to me when I mention trying to quit smoking.

 

Someone on the list has already suggested that you dump him. You said you love

him to much for that. I don't really know what to tell you. I guess if it's

important enough you'll quit smoking with or without him quitting. I wish there

was more I could tell you. I wish you a lot of luck.

~Janice~

Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way!

 

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.

-Eleanor Roosevelt-

 

" Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose wisely "

 

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian.

~Paul McCartney ~

 

 

 

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Congradulations on stopping.

 

Jessika

 

Sant & Brown <santbrown wrote:

>

> I'm not quiting now but I might sometime.

>

> Jessika

 

My first response to seeing this, finally, was 'Oh good, now let's all

get on with things!' Not a sympathetic response, I agree ;=( but, you

know, I really do wonder at people who continue with something they know

is bad for them - whether it is an activity, certain foods, an

addiction, a relationship. *And* when they argue against good advice

(and Jessika has had some excellent advise here!), then I really wonder

;=) Self-induced victimhood?

 

However, right now I choose to believe that illness is causing this

particular irrational behaviour - that and needing nicotine because of

being unable to smoke due to coughing - and I wish you well, Jessika,

truly well so that you won't be coughing anymore and will be able to

look after your future health.

 

If it's of any value to you, I too was a smoker - and I stopped smoking

more than twenty years ago.

 

And *now* I will get on with things! *LOL*

 

Best,

Pat

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SANTBROWN

townhounds/

http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/

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* " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi

 

* " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul

of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had

been born into the world to enjoy. " - Plutarch

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> >He won't listen to me when I mention trying to quit smoking.

>

> Someone on the list has already suggested that you dump him. You

said you love him to much for that.

 

 

 

" ....because I LUV him " is a terrible reason to stay with someone.

If you can't come up with any reasons other than that, it's a good

sign you should get out.

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He's been there for me and he takes care of me. I'm not letting anyone talk me

out of ending my relationship. My parents have been trying to do that because

sometimes I feel like they hate me. But they can be pretty nice to him when

he's around. I love him more than anything and he has saved me from myself

millions of times. I'm not dropping him for anything.

 

Jessika

 

Sheryl <ssarndt wrote:

 

> >He won't listen to me when I mention trying to quit smoking.

>

> Someone on the list has already suggested that you dump him. You

said you love him to much for that.

 

 

 

" ....because I LUV him " is a terrible reason to stay with someone.

If you can't come up with any reasons other than that, it's a good

sign you should get out.

 

 

 

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> I'm not letting

> anyone talk me out of ending my relationship.

 

a Freudian petticoat, I assume?

 

best,

pat

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* " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi

 

* " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul

of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had

been born into the world to enjoy. " - Plutarch

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  • 8 months later...
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I am responding to the many emails regarding smoking, and just wanted to

offer some more support to Tone. I started smoking when I was 12 and quit

when I was 29. I was able to quit just once and never go back. I thought

about telling you my story but this isn't about me and " how I did it " , it's

about you and what you need to quit. I think you know that whatever it is

you need in order to quit isn't in your life yet. And you said you felt

that you were coming to it sometime. I heard so many lectures and had

people implore me to quit so many times...but I kept smoking until the tides

turned for me. The tides will turn for you, too, Tone. Bless you, you are

loved. -Barbara

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...........and every single day toss your cigarette

money in a stash box and treat yourself with the

savings each month. You'd be surprised how many

treasures you will collect. Be it CD's, cookbooks, a

pair of shoes, have something to show for the $$$ and

improve your health at the same time.

Donna

 

 

 

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smoking. - Jimi Hendrix, Midnight Lightning

 

 

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Exercise can help, if you could do any air breathing

Cardiovascular exercises for 45 minutes to 1 hour per day.

when your lungs expand, you crave less and less to smoke.

And you'll start to really feel the different when you breath.

hopefully your craving of cigarettes will distract by itself.

I started running 5 miles per day 4 years ago,

and quited smoking since.

Never crave for one anymore...

 

 

 

 

 

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Never been a smoker, but I've heard that the book " The Easy Way to

Stop Smoking: Join the Millions Who Have Become Nonsmokers Using the

Easyway Method " is supposed to be amazing. You can see the reviews on

Amazon.

 

Best wishes,

 

-Kay

 

 

 

, " maxium62001 "

<maxium62001 wrote:

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> Has anyone ever smoked? Do you know of any herbs that make quitting

> easier?

> Blessings, Jack (Pampa, Texas)

>

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