Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 In the most recent Vegan magazine there is an article about Serena Coles who was an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society right from the beginning. She had been vegan for 60 years of her life, and is now 94. The old people's home she has been put in does not feed her a vegan diet, not even a vegetarian diet, but an omnivorous diet. Apparently she has no dentures, which makes eating difficult, and holes in her clothes. She was 'discovered' by Kirseten Jungsberg fromthe Danish Vegan Society. and her and Tracey Mills, the local contact for Croydon since November 2004. These two kind people have been visiting her, and sharing vegan meals with her, reading to her and taking her out in her wheelchair. Apparently she is now communicating better than she was last November. It is terrible to think that when you get old nobody cares what they feed you, and what you actually want. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairy or egg in them. When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle. It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL! Lynda - Jo Cwazy Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:57 AM Vegans in old people's homes In the most recent Vegan magazine there is an article about Serena Coles who was an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society right from the beginning. She had been vegan for 60 years of her life, and is now 94. The old people's home she has been put in does not feed her a vegan diet, not even a vegetarian diet, but an omnivorous diet. Apparently she has no dentures, which makes eating difficult, and holes in her clothes. She was 'discovered' by Kirseten Jungsberg fromthe Danish Vegan Society. and her and Tracey Mills, the local contact for Croydon since November 2004. These two kind people have been visiting her, and sharing vegan meals with her, reading to her and taking her out in her wheelchair. Apparently she is now communicating better than she was last November. It is terrible to think that when you get old nobody cares what they feed you, and what you actually want. JoTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 I think that this is a disgrace. I am assuming that this is in the UK and this lady would have access to The European Court of Human Rights. They could be forced to give her what she needs. I for one would support a fund to do this if we could set it up. Mary , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > In the most recent Vegan magazine there is an article about Serena Coles who was an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society right from the beginning. She had been vegan for 60 years of her life, and is now 94. > > The old people's home she has been put in does not feed her a vegan diet, not even a vegetarian diet, but an omnivorous diet. Apparently she has no dentures, which makes eating difficult, and holes in her clothes. She was 'discovered' by Kirseten Jungsberg fromthe Danish Vegan Society. and her and Tracey Mills, the local contact for Croydon since November 2004. These two kind people have been visiting her, and sharing vegan meals with her, reading to her and taking her out in her wheelchair. Apparently she is now communicating better than she was last November. > > It is terrible to think that when you get old nobody cares what they feed you, and what you actually want. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Hi Mary At the end of the article there were these contacts - Tracey Mills - tandj or 020 8655 3797 Jo > I think that this is a disgrace. I am assuming that this is in the > UK and this lady would have access to The European Court of Human > Rights. They could be forced to give her what she needs. I for one > would support a fund to do this if we could set it up. > Mary > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > In the most recent Vegan magazine there is an article about Serena > Coles who was an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society right from the > beginning. She had been vegan for 60 years of her life, and is now > 94. > > > > The old people's home she has been put in does not feed her a > vegan diet, not even a vegetarian diet, but an omnivorous diet. > Apparently she has no dentures, which makes eating difficult, and > holes in her clothes. She was 'discovered' by Kirseten Jungsberg > fromthe Danish Vegan Society. and her and Tracey Mills, the local > contact for Croydon since November 2004. These two kind people have > been visiting her, and sharing vegan meals with her, reading to her > and taking her out in her wheelchair. Apparently she is now > communicating better than she was last November. > > > > It is terrible to think that when you get old nobody cares what > they feed you, and what you actually want. > > > > Jo > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 It's sad how we treat our elders. " We " meaning people in general, families, the US and so on............... I try to raise my son to appreciate his grandparents, family and any elder in general. I explain how important each person is to the next generations future and so on.. BB Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > In the most recent Vegan magazine there is an article about Serena Coles who was an Honorary Patron of the Vegan Society right from the beginning. She had been vegan for 60 years of her life, and is now 94. > > The old people's home she has been put in does not feed her a vegan diet, not even a vegetarian diet, but an omnivorous diet. Apparently she has no dentures, which makes eating difficult, and holes in her clothes. She was 'discovered' by Kirseten Jungsberg fromthe Danish Vegan Society. and her and Tracey Mills, the local contact for Croydon since November 2004. These two kind people have been visiting her, and sharing vegan meals with her, reading to her and taking her out in her wheelchair. Apparently she is now communicating better than she was last November. > > It is terrible to think that when you get old nobody cares what they feed you, and what you actually want. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Which brings me to my question... I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowel obstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won't explain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a " liquid diet " when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down. Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . What do you think? CK Gadarian ---- Lynda <lurine wrote: > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that " might " have had dairy or egg in them. > > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle. > > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL! > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005  stand your ground, there is a hospital in the UK, now someone help me I 'didn't save the link and they provide all patients with the choices of Vegan , vegetarian or YUCK food (lol) anyway maybe if you can locate this hospital and down load the info and give it to your doctor or hospital ......Never know. all the best Craig PS I will try to find the link I remember downloading and printing out some info must be somewhere On Behalf Of Cynthia GadarianSunday, May 22, 2005 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Vegans in old people's homesWhich brings me to my question...I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowel obstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won't explain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a "liquid diet" when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down.Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored "ices" or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about "outside food", which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am "non-compliant".What do you think?CK Gadarian---- Lynda <lurine wrote: > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairy or egg in them.> > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle.> > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL!> > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Take the food in microwave containers. Each nursing station or nurses' lounge usually has a microwave. Ask staff to nuke it for you. Or bring along one of those little tea kettles that plug in and will heat soup. The doc can write a " prescription " to allow you to do this. Of course, whether they will or not is the question. We did this for patients when they had special needs that the kitchen staff was prepared to or couldn't prepare. Lynda - Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian Saturday, May 21, 2005 4:03 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes > Which brings me to my question... > > I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowel obstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won't explain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a " liquid diet " when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down. > > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . > > What do you think? > CK Gadarian > > ---- Lynda <lurine wrote: > > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that " might " have had dairy or egg in them. > > > > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle. > > > > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL! > > > > Lynda > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Wow! Thanks. I could really use the info if anyone has it. CK Gadarian ---- Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote: > stand your ground, > there is a hospital in the UK, now someone help me I 'didn't save the link > and they provide all patients with the choices of Vegan , vegetarian or YUCK food (lol) > anyway maybe if you can locate this hospital and down load the info and give it to your doctor or hospital > .....Never know. > > all the best > Craig > > PS I will try to find the link I remember downloading and printing out some info must be somewhere > > > > On Behalf Of Cynthia Gadarian > Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:03 AM > > Re: Vegans in old people's homes > > > Which brings me to my question... > > I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowel obstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won't explain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a " liquid diet " when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down. > > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . > > What do you think? > CK Gadarian > > ---- Lynda <lurine wrote: > > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that " might " have had dairy or egg in them. > > > > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle. > > > > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL! > > > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hi Cynthia > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I > have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about > " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not > eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . I can't remember what country you were in... if you're in the UK, then I believe hospitals are required to provide food that you can eat (I know they're not very good at it, but they still should). If you are in the US, then you should remember that you are paying them for a service, and they should provide a service... if they don't then they are the ones being " non-compliant " . If you're somewhere else, I'm afrain I don't know what the situation would be! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005  I won't have time to look until tonight or tomorrow try doing a goggle search for veg or vegan hospital food etc etc.. all the best Craig On Behalf Of Cynthia GadarianMonday, May 23, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: RE: Vegans in old people's homesWow! Thanks. I could really use the info if anyone has it.CK Gadarian---- Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote: > stand your ground,> there is a hospital in the UK, now someone help me I 'didn't save the link> and they provide all patients with the choices of Vegan , vegetarian or YUCK food (lol)> anyway maybe if you can locate this hospital and down load the info and give it to your doctor or hospital> .....Never know.> > all the best> Craig> > PS I will try to find the link I remember downloading and printing out some info must be somewhere> > > > On Behalf Of Cynthia Gadarian> Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:03 AM> > Re: Vegans in old people's homes> > > Which brings me to my question...> > I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowel obstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won't explain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a "liquid diet" when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down.> > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored "ices" or juice bars, and beef broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it because of some regulation about "outside food", which means I would have to prepare it by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in my medical records that say I am "non-compliant".> > What do you think?> CK Gadarian> > ---- Lynda <lurine wrote: > > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convos here they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan. Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed vegan and they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anything with meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairy or egg in them.> > > > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some for Mary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit into the vegan lifestyle.> > > > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that is totally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL!> > > > Lynda> > To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 In the U.S. doctors write prescribed diets and the hospital must provide what he prescribes. Happens all the time with kosher meals, diabetic meals, vegetarian meals, wheat free, dairy free, nut free, etc. We had some *really* strange diets written for patients at one of the hospitals I worked at! I mean REALLY strange! Lynda - Peter <metalscarab Sunday, May 22, 2005 4:49 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes > Hi Cynthia > > > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef > broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I > > have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital > will not prepare it because of some regulation about > > " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a > cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not > > eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered > in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . > > I can't remember what country you were in... if you're in the UK, then I > believe hospitals are required to provide food that you can eat (I know > they're not very good at it, but they still should). If you are in the US, > then you should remember that you are paying them for a service, and they > should provide a service... if they don't then they are the ones being > " non-compliant " . If you're somewhere else, I'm afrain I don't know what the > situation would be! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 when i was in the hospital with a shattered pelvis all those fun years ago, my significant other at the time had to bring me in food..since they had NO concept of vegetarianism..after i was able t ohave solid food, they forst brought me chicken..and then after that, fish i should have figured..i mean..eggplants are a vegetable.... fraggle Lynda May 21, 2005 10:19 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes Take the food in microwave containers. Each nursing station or nurses'lounge usually has a microwave. Ask staff to nuke it for you. Or bringalong one of those little tea kettles that plug in and will heat soup. Thedoc can write a "prescription" to allow you to do this. Of course, whetherthey will or not is the question. We did this for patients when they hadspecial needs that the kitchen staff was prepared to or couldn't prepare.Lynda-Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarianSaturday, May 21, 2005 4:03 PMRe: Vegans in old people's homes> Which brings me to my question...>> I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowelobstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won'texplain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a "liquiddiet" when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down.>> Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored "ices" or juice bars, and beefbroth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin andvegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it becauseof some regulation about "outside food", which means I would have to prepareit by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eatinganything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in mymedical records that say I am "non-compliant".>> What do you think?> CK Gadarian>> ---- Lynda <lurine wrote:> > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convoshere they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan.Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed veganand they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anythingwith meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairyor egg in them.> >> > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some forMary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit intothe vegan lifestyle.> >> > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that istotally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL!> >> > Lynda>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Well now, if I'd known you then I would have sent ya to the QA committee and the kitchen folks would have been in deep doggy doo doo! The nutrition books are very clear, and have been for at least 30 years that I am aware of, of what a vegetarian is and what a ovo/lacto vegetarian is. Someone just didn't want to make the effort! AND, the feds would have been all over them when it came time for their licensing review! Lynda - fraggle Monday, May 23, 2005 11:28 AM Re: Vegans in old people's homes when i was in the hospital with a shattered pelvis all those fun years ago, my significant other at the time had to bring me in food..since they had NO concept of vegetarianism..after i was able t ohave solid food, they forst brought me chicken..and then after that, fish i should have figured..i mean..eggplants are a vegetable.... fraggle Lynda May 21, 2005 10:19 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes Take the food in microwave containers. Each nursing station or nurses'lounge usually has a microwave. Ask staff to nuke it for you. Or bringalong one of those little tea kettles that plug in and will heat soup. Thedoc can write a "prescription" to allow you to do this. Of course, whetherthey will or not is the question. We did this for patients when they hadspecial needs that the kitchen staff was prepared to or couldn't prepare.Lynda-Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarianSaturday, May 21, 2005 4:03 PMRe: Vegans in old people's homes> Which brings me to my question...>> I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowelobstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won'texplain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a "liquiddiet" when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down.>> Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored "ices" or juice bars, and beefbroth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin andvegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it becauseof some regulation about "outside food", which means I would have to prepareit by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eatinganything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in mymedical records that say I am "non-compliant".>> What do you think?> CK Gadarian>> ---- Lynda <lurine@softc om.net> wrote:> > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convoshere they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan.Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed veganand they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anythingwith meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairyor egg in them.> >> > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some forMary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit intothe vegan lifestyle.> >> > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that istotally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL!> >> > Lynda>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 yer joshin me it was a county hospital... no one cares... my diet was the least of my worries in that place.... Lynda May 23, 2005 4:44 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes Well now, if I'd known you then I would have sent ya to the QA committee and the kitchen folks would have been in deep doggy doo doo! The nutrition books are very clear, and have been for at least 30 years that I am aware of, of what a vegetarian is and what a ovo/lacto vegetarian is. Someone just didn't want to make the effort! AND, the feds would have been all over them when it came time for their licensing review! Lynda - fraggle Monday, May 23, 2005 11:28 AM Re: Vegans in old people's homes when i was in the hospital with a shattered pelvis all those fun years ago, my significant other at the time had to bring me in food..since they had NO concept of vegetarianism..after i was able t ohave solid food, they forst brought me chicken..and then after that, fish i should have figured..i mean..eggplants are a vegetable.... fraggle Lynda May 21, 2005 10:19 PM Re: Vegans in old people's homes Take the food in microwave containers. Each nursing station or nurses'lounge usually has a microwave. Ask staff to nuke it for you. Or bringalong one of those little tea kettles that plug in and will heat soup. Thedoc can write a "prescription" to allow you to do this. Of course, whetherthey will or not is the question. We did this for patients when they hadspecial needs that the kitchen staff was prepared to or couldn't prepare.Lynda-Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarianSaturday, May 21, 2005 4:03 PMRe: Vegans in old people's homes> Which brings me to my question...>> I often have to be hospitalized because, I have recurring small bowelobstructions that require NASTY medical care to resolve them - I won'texplain here. In order to get home, I am supposed to partake of a "liquiddiet" when the doctor thinks the danger is past...and hold it down.>> Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored "ices" or juice bars, and beefbroth. You can see how this creates a problem. I have vegan jellatin andvegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital will not prepare it becauseof some regulation about "outside food", which means I would have to prepareit by starting a cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not eatinganything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered in mymedical records that say I am "non-compliant".>> What do you think?> CK Gadarian>> ---- Lynda <lurine@softc om.net> wrote:> > Can't/don't your doctors prescribe special diets in the UK? At convoshere they do and the lady in the next room to my mother was a vegan.Sometimes she ended up with vegetarian meals but the doc prescribed veganand they did the best they could. I mean, they never brought her anythingwith meat but sometimes they would have things that "might" have had dairyor egg in them.> >> > When I brought my mother the applesauce cake, I always brought some forMary, as I did with anything I made for my mother that would also fit intothe vegan lifestyle.> >> > It is too sad to hear of this sort of thing happening to someone that istotally helpless and in someone else's control. CRUEL!> >> > Lynda>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Thanks, Peter. I live in the US, home of non-affordable prescription drugs and assembly-line, cookie cutter medical care. Trying to ask a hospital to do something a little out of the routine causes a minor riot on the medical ward as people run around trying to figure out what to do. Recently, on one of my stays in the hospital, when I turned down the non-vegan liquid diet, a nurse ran around looking for something for me to eat and stole a fruit juice bar from another patient!! Resignedly, CK Gadarian ---- Peter <metalscarab wrote: > Hi Cynthia > > > Liquid diets MUST include: jello, flavored " ices " or juice bars, and beef > broth. You can see how this creates a problem. I > > have vegan jellatin and vegan broth I can take with me, but the hospital > will not prepare it because of some regulation about > > " outside food " , which means I would have to prepare it by starting a > cooking fire in my room, I imagine. So I end up not > > eating anything, thus pissing off the physician, and a note gets entered > in my medical records that say I am " non-compliant " . > > I can't remember what country you were in... if you're in the UK, then I > believe hospitals are required to provide food that you can eat (I know > they're not very good at it, but they still should). If you are in the US, > then you should remember that you are paying them for a service, and they > should provide a service... if they don't then they are the ones being > " non-compliant " . If you're somewhere else, I'm afrain I don't know what the > situation would be! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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