Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 'Alcohol worse for female brains' Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage than men, scans have shown. CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed how women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink heavily. Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible evidence of this. The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in Alcoholism. Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption Study author Professor Karl Mann In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All of the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six week study. Those who were alcoholic were helped to " dry out " during the six weeks. When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than the controls. Brain loss Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain volume as the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol dependence. Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally drink more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and adverse consequences more readily. Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, depression and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he said. " Women typically start drinking later in life, consume less...and one could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. " But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events leading to dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of adverse consequences of alcoholism. " This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption. " For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot and treat alcohol abuse early in women. A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: " This study supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol-related harms before men at the same level of drinking. " These results are particularly concerning given the rising alcohol consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol dependence that goes with it. " This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage experienced by women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 NO!!!!!! I can't hear you! <runs screaming> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage than > men, scans have shown. > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed how > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink heavily. > > Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more > resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible > evidence of this. > > The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in > Alcoholism. > > Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption > > Study author Professor Karl Mann > > In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All of > the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six week > study. > > Those who were alcoholic were helped to " dry out " during the six > weeks. > > When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found > obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. > > The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than the > controls. > > Brain loss > > Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain volume as > the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol > dependence. > > Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally drink > more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and > adverse consequences more readily. > > Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, depression > and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he said. > > " Women typically start drinking later in life, consume less...and one > could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. > > " But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events leading to > dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of adverse > consequences of alcoholism. > > " This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol > consumption. " > > For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot and > treat alcohol abuse early in women. > > A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: " This study > supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol- related > harms before men at the same level of drinking. > > " These results are particularly concerning given the rising alcohol > consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol dependence > that goes with it. > > " This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage experienced by > women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Jo's just tryin to scare us... i'll have you know that *hic* my brain is fine if i could find it it would tell you... oh...wait...i'm not a gurl schiesse sara May 16, 2005 5:41 PM Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) NO!!!!!!I can't hear you!<runs screaming> , "heartwerk" <heartwork@c...> wrote:> 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage than > men, scans have shown. > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed how > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink heavily. > > Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more > resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible > evidence of this. > > The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in > Alcoholism. > > Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption > > Study author Professor Karl Mann > > In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All of > the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six week > study. > > Those who were alcoholic were helped to "dry out" during the six > weeks. > > When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found > obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. > > The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than the > controls. > > Brain loss > > Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain volume as > the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol > dependence. > > Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally drink > more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and > adverse consequences more readily. > > Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, depression > and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he said. > > "Women typically start drinking later in life, consume less...and one > could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. > > "But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events leading to > dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of adverse > consequences of alcoholism. > > "This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol > consumption." > > For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot and > treat alcohol abuse early in women. > > A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: "This study > supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol-related > harms before men at the same level of drinking. > > "These results are particularly concerning given the rising alcohol > consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol dependence > that goes with it. > > "This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage experienced by > women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years."To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 LOL - Sorry about that Sara. I just like people to have all the information they might need - forewarned is forearmed, or something like that. Jo , " sara " <gagrip5> wrote: > NO!!!!!! > I can't hear you! > <runs screaming> > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage than > > men, scans have shown. > > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed how > > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink > heavily. > > > > Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more > > resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible > > evidence of this. > > > > The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in > > Alcoholism. > > > > Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption > > > > Study author Professor Karl Mann > > > > In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All > of > > the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six > week > > study. > > > > Those who were alcoholic were helped to " dry out " during the six > > weeks. > > > > When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found > > obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. > > > > The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than the > > controls. > > > > Brain loss > > > > Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain volume > as > > the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol > > dependence. > > > > Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally drink > > more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and > > adverse consequences more readily. > > > > Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, > depression > > and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he > said. > > > > " Women typically start drinking later in life, consume less...and > one > > could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. > > > > " But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events leading > to > > dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of adverse > > consequences of alcoholism. > > > > " This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic > alcohol > > consumption. " > > > > For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot and > > treat alcohol abuse early in women. > > > > A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: " This > study > > supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol- > related > > harms before men at the same level of drinking. > > > > " These results are particularly concerning given the rising > alcohol > > consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol > dependence > > that goes with it. > > > > " This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage experienced > by > > women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'm sorry to report that the brain cells I would use to process this information have been depleted years ago by malt and barley. Nikki (who can see Fraggle cheering in the background) > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage than > > men, scans have shown. > > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed how > > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink > heavily. > > > > Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more > > resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible > > evidence of this. > > > > The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in > > Alcoholism. > > > > Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption > > > > Study author Professor Karl Mann > > > > In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All > of > > the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six > week > > study. > > > > Those who were alcoholic were helped to " dry out " during the six > > weeks. > > > > When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found > > obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. > > > > The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than the > > controls. > > > > Brain loss > > > > Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain volume > as > > the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol > > dependence. > > > > Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally drink > > more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and > > adverse consequences more readily. > > > > Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, > depression > > and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he > said. > > > > " Women typically start drinking later in life, consume less...and > one > > could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. > > > > " But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events leading > to > > dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of adverse > > consequences of alcoholism. > > > > " This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic > alcohol > > consumption. " > > > > For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot and > > treat alcohol abuse early in women. > > > > A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: " This > study > > supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol- > related > > harms before men at the same level of drinking. > > > > " These results are particularly concerning given the rising > alcohol > > consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol > dependence > > that goes with it. > > > > " This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage experienced > by > > women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Don't believe you - so there :-p Jo - " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:07 PM Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > I'm sorry to report that the brain cells I would use to process this > information have been depleted years ago by malt and barley. > > Nikki > (who can see Fraggle cheering in the background) > > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > > wrote: > > > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > > > > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > > > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage > than > > > men, scans have shown. > > > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed > how > > > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink > > heavily. > > > > > > Scientists have suspected for some time that men might be more > > > resilient to booze than women. The German research gives visible > > > evidence of this. > > > > > > The University of Heidelberg team published their findings in > > > Alcoholism. > > > > > > Women may be more vulnerable to chronic alcohol consumption > > > > > > Study author Professor Karl Mann > > > > > > In the study, around half of the volunteers were alcoholics. All > > of > > > the volunteers had brain scans at the start and end of the six > > week > > > study. > > > > > > Those who were alcoholic were helped to " dry out " during the six > > > weeks. > > > > > > When the researchers analysed the brain scan results they found > > > obvious evidence of brain damage among the heavy drinkers. > > > > > > The drinkers had smaller brains, due to loss or atrophy, than > the > > > controls. > > > > > > Brain loss > > > > > > Women who were heavy drinkers lost the same amount of brain > volume > > as > > > the drinking men, but over a much shorter period of alcohol > > > dependence. > > > > > > Lead author Professor Karl Mann said although men generally > drink > > > more alcohol, women are probably develop alcohol dependence and > > > adverse consequences more readily. > > > > > > Other alcohol-related disorders, such as heart problems, > > depression > > > and liver disease, also occurred earlier in women than men, he > > said. > > > > > > " Women typically start drinking later in life, consume > less...and > > one > > > could reason that women are less affected by alcohol. > > > > > > " But there is evidence for a faster progress of the events > leading > > to > > > dependence among female alcoholics and an earlier onset of > adverse > > > consequences of alcoholism. > > > > > > " This suggests that women may be more vulnerable to chronic > > alcohol > > > consumption. " > > > > > > For these reasons, he said it was even more important to spot > and > > > treat alcohol abuse early in women. > > > > > > A spokesman from the Institute of Alcohol Studies said: " This > > study > > > supports previous findings that women experience many alcohol- > > related > > > harms before men at the same level of drinking. > > > > > > " These results are particularly concerning given the rising > > alcohol > > > consumption in UK women, and the increased risk of alcohol > > dependence > > > that goes with it. > > > > > > " This worryingly suggests that alcohol-related damage > experienced > > by > > > women in the UK is set to increase rapidly in the coming years. " > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Me? You don't believe me? The innocent one? *giggle* How about if I said hops? Would you have believed me then? Rum? Ummmmmmmmmmm...... Radioactive waves from when I forgot to don my aluminum hat? Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Don't believe you - so there :-p > > Jo > > - > " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> > > Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:07 PM > Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > > > > I'm sorry to report that the brain cells I would use to process this > > information have been depleted years ago by malt and barley. > > > > Nikki > > (who can see Fraggle cheering in the background) > > > > > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > > > > > > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > > > > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain damage > > than > > > > men, scans have shown. > > > > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers revealed > > how > > > > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink > > > heavily. <<SNIP>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 <humming loudly to self while plugging ears> Oh wait, it said women, not girls. OK, I'm fine, then. <continues walking around in happy cloud of denial> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > Jo's just tryin to scare us... i'll have you know that *hic* my brain is fine if i could find it it would tell you... oh...wait...i'm not a gurl schiesse sara NO!!!!!! I can't hear you! <runs screaming> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Ah well - you should wear your tinfoil hat all the time - it would help :-) Jo - " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:05 AM Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > Me? You don't believe me? The innocent one? > > *giggle* > > How about if I said hops? Would you have believed me then? > Rum? > Ummmmmmmmmmm...... > > Radioactive waves from when I forgot to don my aluminum hat? > > Nikki > > > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > Don't believe you - so there :-p > > > > Jo > > > > - > > " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> > > > > Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:07 PM > > Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > > > > > > > I'm sorry to report that the brain cells I would use to process > this > > > information have been depleted years ago by malt and barley. > > > > > > Nikki > > > (who can see Fraggle cheering in the background) > > > > > > > > > > , " heartwerk " > <heartwork@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > 'Alcohol worse for female brains' > > > > > > > > > > Experts warn more and more women are taking up drinking > > > > > Women are far more vulnerable to alcohol-induced brain > damage > > > than > > > > > men, scans have shown. > > > > > CT pictures of the brains of more than 150 volunteers > revealed > > > how > > > > > women come to more harm and quicker than men when they drink > > > > heavily. > <<SNIP>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 You know, I did that for quite awhile, but then when I visited new customers, for some reason I never got their business. So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing my hair down. Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Ah well - you should wear your tinfoil hat all the time - it would help :-) > > Jo > > - > " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:05 AM > Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > > > > Me? You don't believe me? The innocent one? > > > > *giggle* > > > > How about if I said hops? Would you have believed me then? > > Rum? > > Ummmmmmmmmmm...... > > > > Radioactive waves from when I forgot to don my aluminum hat? > > > > Nikki > > > > > > > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > > Don't believe you - so there :-p > > > > > > Jo > > > <<SNIP>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Very wise. Jo - " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:46 AM Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > You know, I did that for quite awhile, but then when I visited new > customers, for some reason I never got their business. > > So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing > my hair down. > > Nikki > > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > Ah well - you should wear your tinfoil hat all the time - it would > help :-) > > > > Jo > > > > - > > " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:05 AM > > Re: Women and Alcohol (BBC website) > > > > > > > Me? You don't believe me? The innocent one? > > > > > > *giggle* > > > > > > How about if I said hops? Would you have believed me then? > > > Rum? > > > Ummmmmmmmmmm...... > > > > > > Radioactive waves from when I forgot to don my aluminum hat? > > > > > > Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > > > Don't believe you - so there :-p > > > > > > > > Jo > > > > > <<SNIP>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Hi Nikki > So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing > my hair down. Ah - well that explains everything... they don't get you through the ears - that would be way too obvious! It's the back of the neck and top of the head you've got to watch for! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Hi Peter How do you think my hair would look braided with the foil weaved in? BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing > > my hair down. > > Ah - well that explains everything... they don't get you through the ears - > that would be way too obvious! It's the back of the neck and top of the head > you've got to watch for! > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Hi Nikki > How do you think my hair would look braided with the foil weaved in? It would have that nice eighties disco look, I should think :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Very fetching :-) Jo > Hi Peter > > How do you think my hair would look braided with the foil weaved in? > > BB > Nikki > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > > > So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing > > > my hair down. > > > > Ah - well that explains everything... they don't get you through the > ears - > > that would be way too obvious! It's the back of the neck and top of > the head > > you've got to watch for! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I remember that look, that was bo derek! , " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> wrote: > Hi Peter > > How do you think my hair would look braided with the foil weaved in? > > BB > Nikki > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > > > So now I just put a small square in each ear and hide it by wearing > > > my hair down. > > > > Ah - well that explains everything... they don't get you through the > ears - > > that would be way too obvious! It's the back of the neck and top of > the head > > you've got to watch for! > > > > BB > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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