Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hello all, after my recent verbal pabulum I should probably introduce myself. Kia ora, I'm ana. I live in Aotearoa, Nz. I chose the silly name 'cut out cows' because dairy farming is a massive industry over here and causes problems like nitrifying streams and polluting ground water. So if any of you cows are reading this cut it out!he,he,he(i'm chuckling not making a reference to males) In my fantasy vegan future all these dairy and sheep farms are converted to native forests. However, the lack of cows and sheep dotted along the country side would alarm the general public; so in the early stages conversion stages cutouts of cows and sheep would be strategically placed in fields, to reassure people, and prevent possible economic/social hysteria. These cutout cows and sheep would stand against the bluer than blue skies, and gradually, succeeded by trees, would fall, becoming part of the forest understorey, ahhhhhh. What are your dreams for a vegan future? When I was a girl two events made me decide to become a vegetarian: I read a book about vegetarianism and saw the chicken for tea defrosting in a pool of blood and water in the kitchen sink. This so disturbed my young mind that I promptly became a vegetarian, and, I might add, not one of those fish eating ones either ;-) Up until recently I have been one of those: " I would love to be a vegan but, you know, I love cheese " people. Then I encountered one of the " vegan police " and he gave me some food for thought; for which I am very thankful because in cutting out the moo + co my actions are more alligned with my beliefs. I also feel more peaceful as a vegan, perhaps there is a latent sadness in the molecules of milk products, as there seems to be the fibre of clothing from exploited workers? I find this forum is really interesting because I don't know many other vegans. It's good to know what other vegans think about any sorts of things and not feel like, as fellow vegan aptly put it: " the last of the white unicorns " . Different perceptions help me understand the why, where, who, how, when about what I am thinking. Today it was the how. I was thinking about how grateful I am to live in a society where I can choose to be a vegan, and how I lucky I am that my basic need of food is met. I too am curious about the people behind the names, any other introductions....? ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Ana I love the idea of the cut out cows and sheep - very good. I hate it when people say it would be terrible not to have animals in fields for them to look at. Not only do the animals have to be eaten, but they have to be there for peoples visual pleasure as well!!! Jo > Hello all, after my recent verbal pabulum I should probably introduce > myself. Kia ora, I'm ana. I live in Aotearoa, Nz. I chose the silly > name 'cut out cows' because dairy farming is a massive industry over > here and causes problems like nitrifying streams and polluting ground > water. So if any of you cows are reading this cut it out!he,he,he(i'm > chuckling not making a reference to males) > > In my fantasy vegan future all these dairy and sheep farms are > converted to native forests. However, the lack of cows and sheep > dotted along the country side would alarm the general public; so in > the early stages conversion stages cutouts of cows and sheep would be > strategically placed in fields, to reassure people, and prevent > possible economic/social hysteria. > These cutout cows and sheep would stand against the bluer than blue > skies, and gradually, succeeded by trees, would fall, becoming part of > the forest understorey, ahhhhhh. > > What are your dreams for a vegan future? > > When I was a girl two events made me decide to become a vegetarian: > I read a book about vegetarianism and saw the chicken for tea > defrosting in a pool of blood and water in the kitchen sink. > This so disturbed my young mind that I promptly became a vegetarian, > and, I might add, not one of those fish eating ones either ;-) > Up until recently I have been one of those: > " I would love to be a vegan but, you know, I love cheese " people. > Then I encountered one of the " vegan police " and he gave me some food > for thought; for which I am very thankful because in cutting out the > moo + co my actions are more alligned with my beliefs. > I also feel more peaceful as a vegan, perhaps there is a latent > sadness in the molecules of milk products, as there seems to be the > fibre of clothing from exploited workers? > > I find this forum is really interesting because I don't know many > other vegans. It's good to know what other vegans think about any > sorts of things and not feel like, as fellow vegan aptly put it: > " the last of the white unicorns " . Different perceptions help me > understand the why, where, who, how, when about what I am thinking. > > Today it was the how. I was thinking about how grateful I am to live > in a society where I can choose to be a vegan, and how I lucky I am > that my basic need of food is met. > > I too am curious about the people behind the names, any other > introductions....? > > ana > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Ana I love the " cut out cows " idea... sure beats the concrete ones around Milton Keynes! I guess that since I asked, I should " introduce " myself to those who don't know me... everyone else, just hit delete now :-) I'm Peter... technically the " owner " of the group, in that a few years back I set it up, as it seemed that there was a distinct lack of places on the net for vegans to just " chat " without any worries about being moaned at (or even banned) for going off topic! I've been vegan since September 1998, when I panicked Jo (my mum - also one of the regular posters & a moderator) by deciding to go vegan a couple of days into a holiday in Germany. I'd been vegetarian for about a year before that... which came as rather a shock to anyone who'd known me as a child when I used to hate the whole concept of vegetables! I'm also involved in various animal rights activities - will be taking part in a demo on Saturday to try to stop Oxford University building an animal testing lab, and have done my fair share of hunt sabbing in the past (and maybe in the future, depending on what the effect of the ban actually turns out to be). Along with the usual letter writing, demos, etc. etc. Also fairly politically active - I was recently protesting against the G8 in Scotland, and will possibly be taking some part in demonstrations at the DSEI arms fair in September... In everyday life, I'm a student at Bristol University, taking an MA in Medieval & Early Modern History, currently researching the Early Modern growth of the concept of Druidry... hoping to go on to do a PhD on Druidry and Freemasonry in the early 18th century. Spiritually, I classify myself as loosely Pagan, and tend to associate myself with Reclaiming tradition Witchcraft. I'm a bit of a show off, and love doing acting, singing and playing guitar at just about any given opportunity. Favourite sort of music is Progressive metal, but will happily listen to AOR, Classical, Death metal, and a whole bunch of stuff imbetween. Dunno what else to say... so, there you go! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 oh no i read it i read it!! now i know!!!! oh..the horror!!!! sorry.. been a long day, and on about 90 minutes sleep Peter <metalscarab Jul 21, 2005 5:25 PM Re: introducing me:cutoutcows aka ana Hi Ana I love the " cut out cows " idea... sure beats the concrete ones around Milton Keynes! I guess that since I asked, I should " introduce " myself to those who don't know me... everyone else, just hit delete now :-) I'm Peter... technically the " owner " of the group, in that a few years back I set it up, as it seemed that there was a distinct lack of places on the net for vegans to just " chat " without any worries about being moaned at (or even banned) for going off topic! I've been vegan since September 1998, when I panicked Jo (my mum - also one of the regular posters & a moderator) by deciding to go vegan a couple of days into a holiday in Germany. I'd been vegetarian for about a year before that... which came as rather a shock to anyone who'd known me as a child when I used to hate the whole concept of vegetables! I'm also involved in various animal rights activities - will be taking part in a demo on Saturday to try to stop Oxford University building an animal testing lab, and have done my fair share of hunt sabbing in the past (and maybe in the future, depending on what the effect of the ban actually turns out to be). Along with the usual letter writing, demos, etc. etc. Also fairly politically active - I was recently protesting against the G8 in Scotland, and will possibly be taking some part in demonstrations at the DSEI arms fair in September... In everyday life, I'm a student at Bristol University, taking an MA in Medieval & Early Modern History, currently researching the Early Modern growth of the concept of Druidry... hoping to go on to do a PhD on Druidry and Freemasonry in the early 18th century. Spiritually, I classify myself as loosely Pagan, and tend to associate myself with Reclaiming tradition Witchcraft. I'm a bit of a show off, and love doing acting, singing and playing guitar at just about any given opportunity. Favourite sort of music is Progressive metal, but will happily listen to AOR, Classical, Death metal, and a whole bunch of stuff imbetween. Dunno what else to say... so, there you go! BB Peter To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Fraggle > oh no > i read it > i read it!! > now i know!!!! > oh..the horror!!!! Well, I did try to warn you! > sorry.. > been a long day, and on about 90 minutes sleep I know the feeling (fortunately not too recently). Personally, I'm in quite a silly mood right now! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 What they don't seem to realise is that without the cows and sheep eating everything into a dust bowl the native critters would come back. Drive up the enfamous Hwy 101 and it becomes a little old two-laner in northern Humboldt County. 50 to 100 elk graze on the side of the road on big lush pastures that just about make cattlemen drool! No cows, no sheep, just " real " critters in their " real " habitat. Lynda - " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:28 AM Re: introducing me:cutoutcows aka ana > Hi Ana > > I love the idea of the cut out cows and sheep - very good. I hate it when > people say it would be terrible not to have animals in fields for them to > look at. Not only do the animals have to be eaten, but they have to be > there for peoples visual pleasure as well!!! > > Jo > > > > Hello all, after my recent verbal pabulum I should probably introduce > > myself. Kia ora, I'm ana. I live in Aotearoa, Nz. I chose the silly > > name 'cut out cows' because dairy farming is a massive industry over > > here and causes problems like nitrifying streams and polluting ground > > water. So if any of you cows are reading this cut it out!he,he,he(i'm > > chuckling not making a reference to males) > > > > In my fantasy vegan future all these dairy and sheep farms are > > converted to native forests. However, the lack of cows and sheep > > dotted along the country side would alarm the general public; so in > > the early stages conversion stages cutouts of cows and sheep would be > > strategically placed in fields, to reassure people, and prevent > > possible economic/social hysteria. > > These cutout cows and sheep would stand against the bluer than blue > > skies, and gradually, succeeded by trees, would fall, becoming part of > > the forest understorey, ahhhhhh. > > > > What are your dreams for a vegan future? > > > > When I was a girl two events made me decide to become a vegetarian: > > I read a book about vegetarianism and saw the chicken for tea > > defrosting in a pool of blood and water in the kitchen sink. > > This so disturbed my young mind that I promptly became a vegetarian, > > and, I might add, not one of those fish eating ones either ;-) > > Up until recently I have been one of those: > > " I would love to be a vegan but, you know, I love cheese " people. > > Then I encountered one of the " vegan police " and he gave me some food > > for thought; for which I am very thankful because in cutting out the > > moo + co my actions are more alligned with my beliefs. > > I also feel more peaceful as a vegan, perhaps there is a latent > > sadness in the molecules of milk products, as there seems to be the > > fibre of clothing from exploited workers? > > > > I find this forum is really interesting because I don't know many > > other vegans. It's good to know what other vegans think about any > > sorts of things and not feel like, as fellow vegan aptly put it: > > " the last of the white unicorns " . Different perceptions help me > > understand the why, where, who, how, when about what I am thinking. > > > > Today it was the how. I was thinking about how grateful I am to live > > in a society where I can choose to be a vegan, and how I lucky I am > > that my basic need of food is met. > > > > I too am curious about the people behind the names, any other > > introductions....? > > > > ana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 That's true. We can't leave anything wild here though. There are wild New Forest ponies, but every year they are rounded up and some sold off - just to keep the numbers in check, you understand! Jo , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > What they don't seem to realise is that without the cows and sheep eating > everything into a dust bowl the native critters would come back. > > Drive up the enfamous Hwy 101 and it becomes a little old two-laner in > northern Humboldt County. 50 to 100 elk graze on the side of the road on > big lush pastures that just about make cattlemen drool! No cows, no sheep, > just " real " critters in their " real " habitat. > > Lynda > - > " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > > Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:28 AM > Re: introducing me:cutoutcows aka ana > > > > Hi Ana > > > > I love the idea of the cut out cows and sheep - very good. I hate it when > > people say it would be terrible not to have animals in fields for them to > > look at. Not only do the animals have to be eaten, but they have to be > > there for peoples visual pleasure as well!!! > > > > Jo > > > > > > > Hello all, after my recent verbal pabulum I should probably introduce > > > myself. Kia ora, I'm ana. I live in Aotearoa, Nz. I chose the silly > > > name 'cut out cows' because dairy farming is a massive industry over > > > here and causes problems like nitrifying streams and polluting ground > > > water. So if any of you cows are reading this cut it out! he,he,he(i'm > > > chuckling not making a reference to males) > > > > > > In my fantasy vegan future all these dairy and sheep farms are > > > converted to native forests. However, the lack of cows and sheep > > > dotted along the country side would alarm the general public; so in > > > the early stages conversion stages cutouts of cows and sheep would be > > > strategically placed in fields, to reassure people, and prevent > > > possible economic/social hysteria. > > > These cutout cows and sheep would stand against the bluer than blue > > > skies, and gradually, succeeded by trees, would fall, becoming part of > > > the forest understorey, ahhhhhh. > > > > > > What are your dreams for a vegan future? > > > > > > When I was a girl two events made me decide to become a vegetarian: > > > I read a book about vegetarianism and saw the chicken for tea > > > defrosting in a pool of blood and water in the kitchen sink. > > > This so disturbed my young mind that I promptly became a vegetarian, > > > and, I might add, not one of those fish eating ones either ;-) > > > Up until recently I have been one of those: > > > " I would love to be a vegan but, you know, I love cheese " people. > > > Then I encountered one of the " vegan police " and he gave me some food > > > for thought; for which I am very thankful because in cutting out the > > > moo + co my actions are more alligned with my beliefs. > > > I also feel more peaceful as a vegan, perhaps there is a latent > > > sadness in the molecules of milk products, as there seems to be the > > > fibre of clothing from exploited workers? > > > > > > I find this forum is really interesting because I don't know many > > > other vegans. It's good to know what other vegans think about any > > > sorts of things and not feel like, as fellow vegan aptly put it: > > > " the last of the white unicorns " . Different perceptions help me > > > understand the why, where, who, how, when about what I am thinking. > > > > > > Today it was the how. I was thinking about how grateful I am to live > > > in a society where I can choose to be a vegan, and how I lucky I am > > > that my basic need of food is met. > > > > > > I too am curious about the people behind the names, any other > > > introductions....? > > > > > > ana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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