Guest guest Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Seeds take awhile. You can buy starts at most garden or feed stores. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Monday, August 01, 2005 9:00 AM Re: Container Gardening Would I need to grow from seed or just plant an onion? Lynda <lurine wrote: Well, you could grow the onions in the same can as the potatoes. Plant the potato in the middle and plant a few onions around the outside. Or some carrots or scallions or radishes. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:27 PM Re: Container Gardening Dang!Lynda <lurine wrote: Nope, potatoes kind of grow out from a center stem. Onions only grow individuals. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:25 PM Re: Container Gardening Lynda, does the potato growing plan also work for onions? JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: Side shoots, or suckers, form in the crotches, or axils, between the leaves and the main stem. Don't use a knife to cut them. Use pruners that you sterilize first. Tomatoes are real susptible to disease and that is the easiest way to spread it. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Friday, July 29, 2005 10:40 AM Re: Container Gardening What's a tomato sucker? JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: The time would depend on the climate, heat, etc. AND, you can do it with any potatoes. Another thing for folks on limited incomes and doing container gardening. Did ya know you can start new tomato plants from the suckers? Just buy one plant each year and then you get a dozen from the suckers. Don't tell your local nursery guy I told you <g> He doesn't want folks to know that secret! Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:41 AM Re: Container Gardening What a wonderful idea for the potatoes! How long does the whole process take? Since we have such mild winters here, we can get some gardening in after it cools down a bit. I'm guessing sweet potatoes would be the same way? When I was young, I threw some potatoes in my compost heap and next thing I knew I had a wonderful potato garden. Nothing like newly harvested food, Yummy! JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: O.K., potatoes are soooooo easy. You get a large garbage can. Drill holes in the bottom. Put a few inches of gravel/sand in the bottom and then about 6-8" of potting soil. Plant your potato. Yup, just one. When it grows to about 6-8", put in more potting soil until only the very top leaves are showing. Wait until it grows 6-8" and repeat the process until you get to the top of your garbage can. After the plant flowers and dies back, dump the garbage can over and you'll have enough potatoes for a few months! What happens is the potatoes grow out from the center stem and you end up with several layers of potatoes all around that center stem. Kewl way to get a ton of potatoes in a very small space. Some folks get upwards to over 50 pounds of potatoes! Now as to trees. Lemon trees do quite nicely in pots. If you are going to try other fruit trees, go for natural dwarfs and espalier them onto a trellis. Or go with semi-dwarfs and do an arbor with them. You can train them up and over and then walk under them to pick the fruit. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:19 PM Container Gardening I'm trying container gardening. My patio is only about 6 ft by 6 ft. The problem I'm running into is the fact that it's so warm and sunny here and containers heat up so much. Right now I've got herbs, strawberries and peppers. The other problem I'm running into is that I've got containers everywhere and it's getting crowed. I saw someplace where they made a larger wooden rectangle container, but I don't know much about building such a thing. When it cools down, I'm gonna try though. I would really like to have some vine things going up my 6 ft concrete walls and I wonder how berries would do. My mom used to have some mini fruit trees growing outside her mobile home but she didn't have much luck with them producing and I haven't seen any in years around here. I would love to have mini peach and lemon trees. I would also like to grow potatoes and carrots. I wonder how those would do in containers? I also am trying to figure out how I can add a second level. In otherwords, all those pots that are on the ground now, attach some sort of shelf to the concret block wall where they can sit up higher and allow large containers on the ground. Am I a dreamer? JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: What about community gardens? Square foot gardening? Container gardening?I know of at least one family in the L.A. area that grows enough food for afamily of 4 in their backyard!For example, as folks look at the square footage of their "yard" and say,"nope, not enough room," did y'all know you can hang buckets and punch ahole in the bottom. Plant your plants in the hole and things like cucumbersand tomatoes will grow quite nicely has a hanging plant!Just a thought. I think folks need to explore thinking outside the boxmore.Lynda- "heartwerk" <heartworkTuesday, July 26, 2005 11:43 PM Re: Exercise: Your Life Without Oil.> Maybe it is easier in the States to buy a large area of land. In> Britain, we are such a little island with quite a large population> and most people are lucky to have a postage stamp garden. This> probably accounts for the different perceptions of what is possible.>> Jo>> , "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:> > Well, that cuts both ways. I also worked to keep them healthy> (radiology),> > to get them back to work (Nursing Services Coordinator at a rehab> hosp) and> > helped them when they didn't have the money to do things for> themselves> > (grant planning, volunteering as a paralegal). However, I made it> a point> > to pay attention and look beyond the next pay check. I took what my> > grandparents taught me and added to it.> >> > Almost every homesteader I've ever known or met or heard about has & amp; amp; amp; amp; lt; BR>> worked> > and while working planned beyond that next pay check. They have> all planned> > so they wouldn't need a pay check and learned what they needed to> know OR> > made it a point to get to know folks who knew how to do stuff they> didn't so> > if the time comes they could barter.> >> > Unfortunately, most folks have forgotten the Boy Scout motto and> have bought> > into the whole nanny state thing.> >> > We're in for an interesting ride.> >> > Lynda> > - > > "heartwerk" <heartwork@c...>> > > > Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:12 AM> > Re: Exercise: Your Life Without Oil.> >> >> > > Another thought on the 'fair' part - of cours e, it could be that & g t; these> > > people who haven't become self-sufficient have been working hard> > > making the cars, spares, freezers, air conditioners, tools,> household> > > items, computers, telephones, televisions, stereos, cds,> toiletries,> > > books, cameras, pens, paper, toilets, baths, etc. etc. etc. that> you> > > have been using, and as they have worked for your benefit> > > ................................................................> > >> > > Jo> > >> > >> > > , "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:> > > > Generally speaking the folks who are homesteaders are in> communities> > > that> > > > are pretty self-sufficient to begin with. They are also pretty> well> > > armed> & g t; > & gt; and know how to u se those guns.> > > >> > > > The premise of the series wouldn't work unless those who worked> for> > > their> > > > survival weren't survivalists to begin with.> > > >> > > > Besides, what is "fair" about those who do nothing getting that> > > which others> > > > have worked for? If folks want to survive then folks should> have> > > gotten off> > > > their duffs and worked for it instead of organizing to take what> > > they wanted> > > > without working.> > > >> > > > Hardly what I'd call "fair."> > > >> > > > Lynda> > > > - > > > > "heartwerk" <heartwork@c...>> > > >> > > >> > > > > ; ; ; I remember seeing a s eries here called 'Survivors' where the> remnants> > > > > of the people managed to build up a new community with food> etc. and> > > > > after a while the ones who hadn't managed wanted to 'share'> the food> > > > > and got quite aggressive. Then the people who had organised> > > > > themselves into an 'army' came and took over - to distribute> the food> > > > > fairly!> > > > >> > > > > Jo> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > To send an email to -> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Hold that thought <g> I sent an e-mail to a friend in Phoenix to find out if he knows of any varieties specific to your area. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Monday, August 01, 2005 9:03 AM Re: Re: Container Gardening Ah, those areas are all a cooler climate that here in Phoenix. Lynda <lurine wrote: Here's a link of folks growing them in AZ. http://users.safeaccess.com/olsen/azapple.html Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:02 PM Re: Re: Container Gardening I wonder what kinds would would here? JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: Desert Sweet Organics is outside Tucson. They grow apples. Lynda - Jonnie Hellens Friday, July 29, 2005 10:35 AM Re: Re: Container Gardening Apples need a good cold season, don't they? I don't think they would work out well here in the desert, which I why I'm sure there's none around here. Too bad, I would love to grow my own. JonnieLynda <lurine wrote: Only some of them. There are a few that are self-pollinating. However,others need a different variety to pollinate. A Golden Delicious is apollinator for lots of varieties and self-pollinating. The CoxSelf-pollinating is one, Jonathan is another and then there is the Coronetthat is two apples in one and is self-pollinating.If there are apples in the neighborhood or crab apples, generally you don'thave to worry about having a pollinator. Of course, there are always theexceptions.Lynda- "heartwerk" <heartworkWednesday, July 27, 2005 11:37 PM Re: Container Gardening> Thanks for that info Lynda - I'll try the potatoes.>> Do you know if apple tre es always need to be grown in pairs?>> Jo Jonnie Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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