Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Kristina > As for WW2 the US did a great thing. Yes, war is horrible but what was happening was worse than war and it was stopped. Why > not some balance, some truth? OK, let's get some truth... (and I'm only focussing on the US because it's being discussed - I'm not at all happy with the way the UK behaved in the war either!!!)... the US started out by creating the scenario in which Hitler could come to power, by withdrawing all financial support for the Weimar Republic in 1929. This created spiralling inflation which left the people of Germany starving and unable to support themselves. Hitler promised (and delivered) a way out of the situation that his country had been placed in by America (and the other allied states from the First World War). He was, to the German people, a desperate measure for a desperate situation. Then, when Hitler started to invade all those countries, the US looked at what was going, and desperately wanted to get involved in the war in Europe - but Roosevelt had been elected on a pledge of "not our sons", so, the US government began to feed funds and arms to the Chinese in order to enable them to attack Japan. They then worked behind the political scenes to manipulate the Chinese / Japanese war to produce an attack on America which, to quote Roosevelt in a letter to one of his advisors, "must look like it is an unprovoked attack", in order to justify sending US soldiers into a war. The result was Pearl Harbour, which was, as far as Japan was concerned, purely a part of the Chinese / Japanes conflict, and had nothing to do with the war in Europe. This was the opportunity Roosevelt needed, and so war was declared not only on Japan, but on Germany and Italy as well. There was absolutely no interest in stopping concentration camps, or persecution of non Aryans. Let's not forget, this was still before the days of Martin Luther King, and of McCarthism - the US was doing it's part in persecution of various groups based on race and political view. Then, when things finally quietened down in Europe, the US managed to commit what is generally recognised as the most atrocious act in the history of warfare - Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the results of which are *still* causing death and birth defects some 6 decades later. So, to put it simply, what America (and I refer here to the government, not the people) did in WW2 was create the situation where a war could break out, manouevre itself into a position where it could join in, and then perform an act which is having destructive repurcussions 60 years on. Not sure how any of that classifies as "a great thing". Personally, I think it's a pretty poor way to behave. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power and meglomania. Lynda - Peter Monday, August 08, 2005 5:53 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps Hi Kristina > As for WW2 the US did a great thing. Yes, war is horrible but what was happening was worse than war and it was stopped. Why > not some balance, some truth? OK, let's get some truth... (and I'm only focussing on the US because it's being discussed - I'm not at all happy with the way the UK behaved in the war either!!!)... the US started out by creating the scenario in which Hitler could come to power, by withdrawing all financial support for the Weimar Republic in 1929. This created spiralling inflation which left the people of Germany starving and unable to support themselves. Hitler promised (and delivered) a way out of the situation that his country had been placed in by America (and the other allied states from the First World War). He was, to the German people, a desperate measure for a desperate situation. Then, when Hitler started to invade all those countries, the US looked at what was going, and desperately wanted to get involved in the war in Europe - but Roosevelt had been elected on a pledge of "not our sons", so, the US government began to feed funds and arms to the Chinese in order to enable them to attack Japan. They then worked behind the political scenes to manipulate the Chinese / Japanese war to produce an attack on America which, to quote Roosevelt in a letter to one of his advisors, "must look like it is an unprovoked attack", in order to justify sending US soldiers into a war. The result was Pearl Harbour, which was, as far as Japan was concerned, purely a part of the Chinese / Japanes conflict, and had nothing to do with the war in Europe. This was the opportunity Roosevelt needed, and so war was declared not only on Japan, but on Germany and Italy as well. There was absolutely no interest in stopping concentration camps, or persecution of non Aryans. Let's not forget, this was still before the days of Martin Luther King, and of McCarthism - the US was doing it's part in persecution of various groups based on race and political view. Then, when things finally quietened down in Europe, the US managed to commit what is generally recognised as the most atrocious act in the history of warfare - Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the results of which are *still* causing death and birth defects some 6 decades later. So, to put it simply, what America (and I refer here to the government, not the people) did in WW2 was create the situation where a war could break out, manouevre itself into a position where it could join in, and then perform an act which is having destructive repurcussions 60 years on. Not sure how any of that classifies as "a great thing". Personally, I think it's a pretty poor way to behave. BB Peter Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.3/66 - Release 8/8/05 Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.3/66 - Release 8/8/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Lynda > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power > and meglomania. Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who knows what else may be uncovered! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 no one can cover the whole story, of any event, in an e-mail, er a thousand e-mails history is a complex mass of information, emotions, and viewpoints heck..we didn't even touch on nagasaki er hiroshima.... metalscarab Aug 9, 2005 10:03 AM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps Hi Lynda > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power > and meglomania. Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who knows what else may be uncovered! BB Peter To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 and in the same breathe they helped countless SS officers and nazi officials escape to the West at the end of the war as well half dozen of one, 6 of the other.... earthstrm <nikkimack Aug 9, 2005 10:34 AM Re: The US and concentration camps I can't speak on the camps themselves but I can speak on part of the US in the war. If not for the American Army and government back then, I would not be here now. They helped my Grandfather a high ranking officer in the Luthuanian Army (fleeing the Russians) and my Grandma (his new wife) a suppressed German, my mother, aunt and uncle (all full Lithuanian) flee Germany to America towards the end of the war. They also helped countless other relatives of mine too. Nikki “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever†-George Orwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Nasty thought, isn't it? I mean, as more stuff is discovered, the more deeply the stuff is buried the worse the stuff is! Lynda - <metalscarab Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:03 AM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > Hi Lynda > > > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the > > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies > > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power > > and meglomania. > > Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) > > And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have > covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has > covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who > knows what else may be uncovered! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Or the concentration camps for Italians. Or the attacks from Japan that DID happen on this soil even thought they keep saying we have never been attacked on our soil. Lynda, living where some of the bombs were dropped. - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:18 AM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > no one can cover the whole story, of any event, in an e-mail, er a thousand e-mails > history is a complex mass of information, emotions, and viewpoints > > heck..we didn't even touch on nagasaki er hiroshima.... > > > metalscarab > Aug 9, 2005 10:03 AM > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > Hi Lynda > > > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the > > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies > > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power > > and meglomania. > > Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) > > And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have > covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has > covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who > knows what else may be uncovered! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Nikki I'm glad you are here now :-) Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:46 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps and in the same breathe they helped countless SS officers and nazi officials escape to the West at the end of the war as well half dozen of one, 6 of the other.... earthstrm <nikkimack Aug 9, 2005 10:34 AM Re: The US and concentration camps I can't speak on the camps themselves but I can speak on part of the US in the war. If not for the American Army and government back then, I would not be here now. They helped my Grandfather a high ranking officer in the Luthuanian Army (fleeing the Russians) and my Grandma (his new wife) a suppressed German, my mother, aunt and uncle (all full Lithuanian) flee Germany to America towards the end of the war. They also helped countless other relatives of mine too. Nikki â?oIf you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face â? " foreverâ? -George Orwell To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 balloons don't count Lynda <lurine Aug 9, 2005 2:11 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps Or the concentration camps for Italians. Or the attacks from Japan that DID happen on this soil even thought they keep saying we have never been attacked on our soil. Lynda, living where some of the bombs were dropped. - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:18 AM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > no one can cover the whole story, of any event, in an e-mail, er a thousand e-mails > history is a complex mass of information, emotions, and viewpoints > > heck..we didn't even touch on nagasaki er hiroshima.... > > > metalscarab > Aug 9, 2005 10:03 AM > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > Hi Lynda > > > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by the > > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his cronies > > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to power > > and meglomania. > > Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) > > And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have > covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has > covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who > knows what else may be uncovered! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Lynda > Nasty thought, isn't it? I mean, as more stuff is discovered, the more > deeply the stuff is buried the worse the stuff is! Yep - and, you'll notice how they carefully release significant documents at just the right times so that people don't notice them. A whole load that they didn't want noticed got " de-classified " as top secret in 2003... so they got almost completely overlooked with everyone scrambling to be the first to find out what really happened on the grassy knoll! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 just like this admin will release policy changes on a friday afternoon, because they figure(rightly) that no one will pay attention metalscarab Aug 9, 2005 3:36 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps Hi Lynda > Nasty thought, isn't it? I mean, as more stuff is discovered, the more > deeply the stuff is buried the worse the stuff is! Yep - and, you'll notice how they carefully release significant documents at just the right times so that people don't notice them. A whole load that they didn't want noticed got " de-classified " as top secret in 2003... so they got almost completely overlooked with everyone scrambling to be the first to find out what really happened on the grassy knoll! BB Peter To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 You're right, but yet I still wonder where my " bouncing " Fraggle has gone... Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > ah dear K is it my fault that the facts and the truth of things are negative??? why should i be positive for the sake of being positive? what happened, happened all i'm doing is stating the facts behind the scenes it would be nice if everything was neat and clean and we were always the good guys and wore a white hat reality isn't like that there isn't a black and white..just multiple layers of grey if i'm negative and depress you, its only because i tell things from a perspective no one learns in skool, er on the news, er in the movies.... as for concentration camps...yer missin the point..no one cared cuz the average person didn't know till the end...oh..the average joe knew that the nazi's were persecutin jews and others,..but..death camps weren't in the news... the US didn't go charging over there to liberate those in concentration camps... as a matter of fact...since the US adhered to a strict and severly limiting quoto of emigrants from central and eastern europe, most jews trying to flee couldn't enter the US and were turned away... there's a book a read awhile back...about the after effects of kristallnacht... a passenger ship..i think it was called the spirit of st louis..but that was lindberg's plane...hmmm..whichever anyways this passenger ship was loaded with people fleeing the nazi's...the german government made a big deal out of it... " see, we are letting the jews leave if they want " ..as in the meantime they herded up thousands of others... so..this ship was bound fer cuba, which at the time was basically an american colony... it gets there, and the cuban government denies them entry.... so they turn to the US..i mean..come on..florida is spittin distance.... and they wait off the coast of miami nothing US denies them entry remember...this is after kristalnacht.... they spend another month out at sea, desperately looking for a place to seek refuge finally, the passengers are taken in by the UK, and i think holland, belgium and france i wonder how many later died after the germans invaded? and you question why i'm negative........ as for servicemen... no one wants to think they are evil... hitler didn't run around skipping and singing " i'm evil i'm evil, lalalalalallalala " (tho imagining him in a tutu doin that is humorous) and..i've talked with prolly hundreds of ppl in the armed forces..... rarely do they think they are doing something wrong.. of course that is until you talk to em after a bomb goes astray and blows children bits all over their feet.... not arguing either..just statin my case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Does the submarine count? Guess they didn't take into consideration that Humboldt Bay has the most dangerous entrance to a harbor of any in the world AND then made the mistake of not knowing about all those rocks out in Trinidad. Its corpse is still there. And, why shouldn't the balloons count? They were armed and dangerous, they just didn't work. Rather a nasty plan to start huge forest fires (the bombs were incindiary). Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:20 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > balloons don't count > > > Lynda <lurine > Aug 9, 2005 2:11 PM > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > Or the concentration camps for Italians. > > Or the attacks from Japan that DID happen on this soil even thought they > keep saying we have never been attacked on our soil. > > Lynda, living where some of the bombs were dropped. > - > fraggle <EBbrewpunx > > Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:18 AM > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > > > no one can cover the whole story, of any event, in an e-mail, er a > thousand e-mails > > history is a complex mass of information, emotions, and viewpoints > > > > heck..we didn't even touch on nagasaki er hiroshima.... > > > > > > metalscarab > > Aug 9, 2005 10:03 AM > > > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > > > Hi Lynda > > > > > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by > the > > > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his > cronies > > > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to > power > > > and meglomania. > > > > Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) > > > > And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have > > covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has > > covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who > > knows what else may be uncovered! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 This I believe. But I also know that some of those officers and officials were not there because they wanted to be. And yet others were pure cold blooded killers. Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > and in the same breathe they helped countless SS officers and nazi officials escape to the West at the end of the war as well > half dozen of one, 6 of the other.... > > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> > Aug 9, 2005 10:34 AM > > Re: The US and concentration camps > > I can't speak on the camps themselves but I can speak on part of the > US in the war. > > If not for the American Army and government back then, I would not > be here now. > > They helped my Grandfather a high ranking officer in the Luthuanian > Army (fleeing the Russians) and my Grandma (his new wife) a > suppressed German, my mother, aunt and uncle (all full Lithuanian) > flee Germany to America towards the end of the war. > > They also helped countless other relatives of mine too. > > Nikki > > > “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face †" forever†> -George Orwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 you want the long or short answer to that nikki???? earthstrm <nikkimack Aug 9, 2005 7:52 PM Re: The US and concentration camps You're right, but yet I still wonder where my " bouncing " Fraggle has gone... Nikki “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever†-George Orwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Thx Jo, me too! Now if I could only catch up to the messages on this group LOL BB Nikki , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > I'm glad you are here now :-) > > Jo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Long, I already know part of the short And if need be, offlist Cause now I'm worried... Cause that's not the reply I hoped to get ((hugz)) Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > you want the long or short answer to that nikki???? > > > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> > Aug 9, 2005 7:52 PM > > Re: The US and concentration camps > > You're right, but yet I still wonder where my " bouncing " Fraggle has > gone... > > Nikki > > > “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face †" forever†> -George Orwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi Nikki We have been rather busy with emails lately - but that is good. BB Jo , " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote: > Thx Jo, me too! > > Now if I could only catch up to the messages on this group > LOL > > BB > Nikki > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > > I'm glad you are here now :-) > > > > Jo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 the balloons actually killed like 6 people if i recall correctly and..how can ya forget the submarine which surfaced off the coast of oregon..and blew up a baseball diamond... but..still..they sent 9000 of the balloons er something... most of em didn't make it ingenious idea...but..the height of desperation.... Lynda <lurine Aug 9, 2005 11:38 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps Does the submarine count? Guess they didn't take into consideration that Humboldt Bay has the most dangerous entrance to a harbor of any in the world AND then made the mistake of not knowing about all those rocks out in Trinidad. Its corpse is still there. And, why shouldn't the balloons count? They were armed and dangerous, they just didn't work. Rather a nasty plan to start huge forest fires (the bombs were incindiary). Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:20 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > balloons don't count > > > Lynda <lurine > Aug 9, 2005 2:11 PM > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > Or the concentration camps for Italians. > > Or the attacks from Japan that DID happen on this soil even thought they > keep saying we have never been attacked on our soil. > > Lynda, living where some of the bombs were dropped. > - > fraggle <EBbrewpunx > > Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:18 AM > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > > > no one can cover the whole story, of any event, in an e-mail, er a > thousand e-mails > > history is a complex mass of information, emotions, and viewpoints > > > > heck..we didn't even touch on nagasaki er hiroshima.... > > > > > > metalscarab > > Aug 9, 2005 10:03 AM > > > > Re: Re: The US and concentration camps > > > > Hi Lynda > > > > > Psst, Peter, you left a big hole in the story. Hitler was financed by > the > > > Alfred E Newman look-a-like's grandfather. Prescott Bush and his > cronies > > > are responsible for most of the money that financed Hitler's rise to > power > > > and meglomania. > > > > Hey - I didn't think I did too bad for 2 in the morning :-) > > > > And you're right - there's way more to the whole story than any of us have > > covered so far... in fact, there's more to the story than anyone has > > covered since they're still looking at documents relating to events... who > > knows what else may be uncovered! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi Nikki That's good. I had a quick look before I left work and answered some - but since I came home there are a whole load more :-) BB Jo - " earthstrm " <nikkimack Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:36 PM Re: The US and concentration camps > Hi Jo > > I agree, it's nice to see everyone so talkative. > > And I have finally caught up too! > > BB > Nikki > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > > We have been rather busy with emails lately - but that is good. > > > > BB > > Jo > > > > , " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> > wrote: > > > Thx Jo, me too! > > > > > > Now if I could only catch up to the messages on this group > > > LOL > > > > > > BB > > > Nikki > > > > > > , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > > > > > I'm glad you are here now :-) > > > > > > > > Jo > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 we can not remove him? really? there's a thing called impeachment... they impeached clinton fer a stain on a dress... DragonSpiritHealer Aug 16, 2005 6:46 AM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps I live in the U.S. I will tell you there are lots of people that do not agree with the present government. However, we are not able to remove the bush so we must work with/around him to hope for a better tomorrow. a blinding flash hotter than the sun dead bodies lie across the path the radiation colors the air finishing one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 psst the camps are back they reauthorized use of "relocation" camps back during the reagan admin.. under the auspices of FEMA back then, it was for the waited for hordes of latin americans to come screaming across the border now..they are aiming for muslims.... tick tick tick tick tick Jonnie Hellens Aug 16, 2005 1:16 PM Re: Re: The US and concentration camps I am American and I am aware of our awful history of Japanese camps. I have read some book about the camps and the time of great mistrust of them, even many of them were also Americans. Knowing such things, even tho they are shameful, hopefully causes such things to not happen again. While many of us are more aware, some are not... http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.mesa.shooting/ DragonSpiritHealer <dragonspirithealer wrote: a blinding flash hotter than the sun dead bodies lie across the path the radiation colors the air finishing one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Blair should have been impeached as well, but seems to get away with all sorts of wrongdoings. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > we can not remove him? really? there's a thing called impeachment... they impeached clinton fer a stain on a dress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 They are back. Our rights are being eroded all the time. Horrors are happening. Do our media report these things? or do they tow the establishment line and do their best to keep everyone ignorant??? Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > psst the camps are back they reauthorized use of " relocation " camps back during the reagan admin.. under the auspices of FEMA back then, it was for the waited for hordes of latin americans to come screaming across the border now..they are aiming for muslims.... tick tick tick tick tick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 greta to see yer in the same boat as us.. *sigh* care to help me play the fiddle while rome burns? heartwerk <heartwork Aug 16, 2005 11:48 PM Re: The US and concentration camps Blair should have been impeached as well, but seems to get away with all sorts of wrongdoings. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > we can not remove him? really? there's a thing called impeachment... they impeached clinton fer a stain on a dress... To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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