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Anouk

 

In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

 

When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

 

Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!

 

 

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Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

 

Jo

 

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Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

Anouk

 

In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

 

When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

 

Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!

 

 

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Jo, Anouk and Jonnie

 

I feel misunderstood here.

 

Who said anything about "labeling"? I am totally in favor of everyone being themselves and choosing whatever color they want to wear.

 

I just don't see the point of getting upset with strangers if they misguess your child's sex because you don't put them in traditional colors.

 

I was just saying...why get mad at them? They are not trying to offend. They are just trying to guess your baby's sex with clues because so many mother's get bent out of shape if you say the wrong one.

 

If you are going to buck traditional colors and looks, fine. But don't get angry when society does not know what to call your children.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/12/05 3:48:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Message: 7 Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellensRe: Re: Girl Pink Boy BlueI've never thought that we should label people just so some people are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf. I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob. When I was in my mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me whyI wasn't in school. I drew myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm not very far from the ground) and said "excuse me?" I guess my voice sounded a little older than I looked cuz he backed down.Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.Jo- lv2breathe Cc: Lv2breathe Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM Re: Girl Pink Boy BlueAnoukIn reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.KristinaIn a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!To send an email to -

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I've never thought that we should label people just so some people are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf. I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob.

When I was in my mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me why I wasn't in school. I drew myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm not very far from the ground) and said "excuse me?" I guess my voice sounded a little older than I looked cuz he backed down.

 

Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

 

Jo

 

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lv2breathe

Cc: Lv2breathe

Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

Anouk

 

In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

 

When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

 

Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!

 

Jonnie

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Peter was a red-head for the first about four months of his life (then

it got dark and his hair is very dark brown now). My favourite colour

for him was a sort of lime green.

 

You're are lucky to be taken as a kid - just imagine when you are

forty you will probably look 30 etc.

 

Jo

 

, Jonnie Hellens

<jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> I've never thought that we should label people just so some people

are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in

most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff

and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on

her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her

face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically

all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in

these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that

she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf.

I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the

little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently

to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son

were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they

charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob. When I was in my

mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me why

> I wasn't in school. I drew myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm

not very far from the ground) and said " excuse me? " I guess my voice

sounded a little older than I looked cuz he backed down.

>

> Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...

>

> Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My

daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including

pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way

to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from

a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

>

> Jo

> -

> lv2breathe@a...

>

> Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

>

> Anouk

>

> In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

>

> When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

everything to confuse them?

>

> Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

>

> Kristina

>

> In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

>

> Hi peter,

>

> this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

>

> when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

>

> my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

yet?

>

> Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

hair? Constantly!

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

>

>

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I had the exact opposite problem - I was a huge kid. Filling out a B cup by the time I was ten didn't help. Whenever my mother ordered a child's movie ticket or anything I got grilled on when I was born. In the fourth grade Niki Thomas asked me how many grades I'd been held back. "It's not that you're dumb," she said, "you're just so BIG!" Adult men started trying to pick me up around age ten. I knew I was a freak of nature so I'd tell them straight out how old I was. About 3/4 of men would run away screaming, but the other 1/4 would still try to get me to go home with them. It was really creepy.

 

Looking older than you really are rocks when you're fifteen, but it sucks when you're thirty.

 

Love,

Anna

 

 

 

 

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Jonnie Hellens

 

8/12/2005 4:25:21 PM

Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

I've never thought that we should label people just so some people are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf. I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob. When I was in my mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me why I wasn't in school. I drew myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm not very far from the ground) and said "excuse me?" I guess my voice sounded a little older than I looked cuz he backed down.

 

Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

 

Jo

 

-

lv2breathe

Cc: Lv2breathe

Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

Anouk

 

In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

 

When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

 

Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!

 

Jonnie

 

 

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I see your point,

but I guess that my actions in buying my boys feminine things (pink blankets)

and leaving the long hair just because I like it... is a sort of a small protest on my part.

 

Someone once said every action a protest in your backyard or something like that.

 

It is because I feel these colors are imposed and I think that those well meaning people, should think twice about these steryotypes or classifications.

 

When my son turned four, we went to Toys R Us (for lack of a better place) to buy him his very first bycicle Helmet.

 

out of all the colors that there where to choose from.. He chose a Pink one.

I knew that if we bought that one, he would probably get tease by other boys.

 

Then I lied and said the pink one is tooo big, how about another one? Then he said , I like purple! (also considered a girls color).

 

I mean how do you explain to a four year old that he can't pick out certain colors in toys. For what legitimate reason?

I mean what would anyone have done?

Philosophically it doesn't make sense to him as I am raising him to be a free and open thinker who questions and questions.

I believe assigning colors is just stupid and homophobic.

 

I think we should all resent our limited choices.

 

 

 

 

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Cc: Lv2breathe

8/11/2005 7:08:41 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

Anouk

 

In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

 

When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

 

Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

 

Kristina

 

In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Hi peter,this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth. when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue! I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say "she is so cute"my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I get from people calling her a "She" and then when I tell them he is a boy they say "haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet? Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is gourgeous and why should I cut it!At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his hair? Constantly!

 

 

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Hi Anna

 

I bet you don't look older than you are - you've probably just got it

in your mind from when you were young. Our self-perceptions are very

difficult to shift.

 

When I was a teenager I was very slim (probably due to the cigarettes

:-( ) but I thought I was fat (never had an eating problem though).

Now I am quite overweight and know it, I don't feel it. It's strange

how we feel about ourselves.

 

Jo

 

, " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> wrote:

> I had the exact opposite problem - I was a huge kid. Filling out a

B cup by the time I was ten didn't help. Whenever my mother ordered a

child's movie ticket or anything I got grilled on when I was born. In

the fourth grade Niki Thomas asked me how many grades I'd been held

back. " It's not that you're dumb, " she said, " you're just so BIG! "

Adult men started trying to pick me up around age ten. I knew I was a

freak of nature so I'd tell them straight out how old I was. About

3/4 of men would run away screaming, but the other 1/4 would still try

to get me to go home with them. It was really creepy.

>

> Looking older than you really are rocks when you're fifteen, but it

sucks when you're thirty.

>

> Love,

> Anna

>

>

> -

> Jonnie Hellens

>

> 8/12/2005 4:25:21 PM

> Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

>

> I've never thought that we should label people just so some people

are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in

most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff

and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on

her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her

face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically

all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in

these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that

she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf.

I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the

little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently

to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son

were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they

charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob. When I was in my

mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me why I wasn't in school. I drew

myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm not very far from the ground)

and said " excuse me? " I guess my voice sounded a little older than I

looked cuz he backed down.

>

> Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...

>

> Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My

daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including

pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way

to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from

a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

>

> Jo

> -

> lv2breathe@a...

>

> Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

>

> Anouk

>

> In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

>

> When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

everything to confuse them?

>

> Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

>

> Kristina

>

> In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

>

> Hi peter,

>

> this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

>

> when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

>

> my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

yet?

>

> Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

hair? Constantly!

>

>

>

>

> Jonnie

>

>

> Start your day with - make it your home page

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

>

>

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I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a boy

or girl before proceeding.

 

At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be dressed

in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex they

were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

 

Jo

 

, lv2breathe@a... wrote:

>

> Jo, Anouk and Jonnie

>

> I feel misunderstood here.

>

> Who said anything about " labeling " ? I am totally in favor of

everyone being

> themselves and choosing whatever color they want to wear.

>

> I just don't see the point of getting upset with strangers if they

misguess

> your child's sex because you don't put them in traditional colors.

>

> I was just saying...why get mad at them? They are not trying to

offend.

> They are just trying to guess your baby's sex with clues because so

many

> mother's get bent out of shape if you say the wrong one.

>

> If you are going to buck traditional colors and looks, fine. But

don't get

> angry when society does not know what to call your children.

>

> Kristina

>

> In a message dated 8/12/05 3:48:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

> Message: 7

> Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT)

> Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens>

> Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

> I've never thought that we should label people just so some people are

> comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in

most 'baby'

> colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff and soak

it in tea to

> make it a tan color, which looked stunning on her. When she

started eating

> solids, she would get plums all over her face and I would admire

how nice the

> color looked on her, basically all fall colors were stunning.

Now-a-days you

> can get baby clothes in these colors, as well as grown up clothes.

Her problem

> now is that she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find

stuff small

> enuf. I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them

in the

> little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner

recently to a buffet

> restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son were

giggling. It

> turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they charged us for a

kiddie meal. I

> had the same prob. When I was in my mid 20s, someone gruffly asked

me why

> I wasn't in school. I drew myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm

not very

> far from the ground) and said " excuse me? " I guess my voice sounded a

> little older than I looked cuz he backed down.

>

> Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...

>

> Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My

daughter has

> never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including pink. You

seem to

> think that you should dress children a certain way to avoid

confusing people

> who have no reason to assume something from a colour. Maybe we

should stick

> labels on their foreheads.

>

> Jo

> -

> lv2breathe@a...

>

> Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

>

> Anouk

>

> In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

>

> When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

gender...and

> will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair length. Why do

you get mad

> when they guess wrong when you did everything to confuse them?

>

> Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

pink

> blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick up

on cues?

> Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them wanting

to polite

> than a huge gender/societal issue.

>

> Kristina

>

> In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

> Hi peter,

>

> this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

>

> when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

I

> used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

comments from my

> mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

>

> my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

get from

> people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is a boy

they say

> " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut yet?

>

> Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

gourgeous and

> why should I cut it!

> At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

hair?

> Constantly!

>

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Gee, I guess my problem is that my momma and gramma taught me that good manners required that I engage my brain before engaging my mouth. If I don't know, positively, then ask. It is easy look at the child and to ask a simple question like "What is your name" or simply saying "What a cute baby" "Or what a cute/sweet child."

 

Lynda

 

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Friday, August 12, 2005 4:56 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

Jo, Anouk and Jonnie

 

I feel misunderstood here.

 

Who said anything about "labeling"? I am totally in favor of everyone being themselves and choosing whatever color they want to wear.

 

I just don't see the point of getting upset with strangers if they misguess your child's sex because you don't put them in traditional colors.

 

I was just saying...why get mad at them? They are not trying to offend. They are just trying to guess your baby's sex with clues because so many mother's get bent out of shape if you say the wrong one.

 

If you are going to buck traditional colors and looks, fine. But don't get angry when society does not know what to call your children.

 

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This is true. A lot of it is how you carry yourself or, probably in Anna's

case, how your body between your shoulders and legs grows. Been there done

that.

 

At 16 I wasn't carded. In fact, no one ever asked for my ID until well

after I was 21. After that I didn't stop getting carded until after I was

42!

 

Personally, I prescribe to Grampa's theory which seems to have served him

and all his brothers and sisters quite well (17 of them and all lived well

past 90, with Uncle Billy living to past 100), age is a state of mind and

birthdays aren't about getting a year older, that number is supposed to

designate how many presents you get each years <g>

 

Lynda

-

" heartwerk " <heartwork

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:30 AM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> Hi Anna

>

> I bet you don't look older than you are - you've probably just got it

> in your mind from when you were young. Our self-perceptions are very

> difficult to shift.

>

> When I was a teenager I was very slim (probably due to the cigarettes

> :-( ) but I thought I was fat (never had an eating problem though).

> Now I am quite overweight and know it, I don't feel it. It's strange

> how we feel about ourselves.

>

> Jo

>

> , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> wrote:

> > I had the exact opposite problem - I was a huge kid. Filling out a

> B cup by the time I was ten didn't help. Whenever my mother ordered a

> child's movie ticket or anything I got grilled on when I was born. In

> the fourth grade Niki Thomas asked me how many grades I'd been held

> back. " It's not that you're dumb, " she said, " you're just so BIG! "

> Adult men started trying to pick me up around age ten. I knew I was a

> freak of nature so I'd tell them straight out how old I was. About

> 3/4 of men would run away screaming, but the other 1/4 would still try

> to get me to go home with them. It was really creepy.

> >

> > Looking older than you really are rocks when you're fifteen, but it

> sucks when you're thirty.

> >

> > Love,

> > Anna

> >

> >

> > -

> > Jonnie Hellens

> >

> > 8/12/2005 4:25:21 PM

> > Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> >

> > I've never thought that we should label people just so some people

> are comfortable. My middle daughter was a red-head, looked awful in

> most 'baby' colors they had out at the time. I would take her stuff

> and soak it in tea to make it a tan color, which looked stunning on

> her. When she started eating solids, she would get plums all over her

> face and I would admire how nice the color looked on her, basically

> all fall colors were stunning. Now-a-days you can get baby clothes in

> these colors, as well as grown up clothes. Her problem now is that

> she's such a little-bitty thing that she can't find stuff small enuf.

> I tease her that when I get her clolthing gifts, I buy them in the

> little girl department. In fact, we all went out to dinner recently

> to a buffet restaurant and when I got to the table, she and my son

> were giggling. It turns out that even tho she's almost 20, they

> charged us for a kiddie meal. I had the same prob. When I was in my

> mid 20s, someone gruffly asked me why I wasn't in school. I drew

> myself up to my full height (ok, so I'm not very far from the ground)

> and said " excuse me? " I guess my voice sounded a little older than I

> looked cuz he backed down.

> >

> > Ok, enuf of memory lane, sorry...

> >

> > Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> > Why should it be that pink is for girls and blue for boys. My

> daughter has never liked pink, and Peter likes all colours, including

> pink. You seem to think that you should dress children a certain way

> to avoid confusing people who have no reason to assume something from

> a colour. Maybe we should stick labels on their foreheads.

> >

> > Jo

> > -

> > lv2breathe@a...

> >

> > Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> > Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:58 PM

> > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> >

> > Anouk

> >

> > In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

> >

> > When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

> gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

> length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

> everything to confuse them?

> >

> > Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

> pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

> up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

> wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

> >

> > Kristina

> >

> > In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

> >

> > Hi peter,

> >

> > this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

> >

> > when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

> I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

> comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

> >

> > my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

> get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

> a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

> yet?

> >

> > Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

> gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> > At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

> hair? Constantly!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Jonnie

> >

> >

> > Start your day with - make it your home page

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Actually, we have a few of those nutcase television preachers claiming it

designates homosexuality. That along with triangles.

 

Sheesh, those people need to get a life!

 

Lynda

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" heartwerk " <heartwork

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:41 AM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> I agree totally with what you say. It is interesting to hear that

> purple is considered feminine - I haven't heard of it being that in

> the UK.

>

> Jo

>

> , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote:

> > I see your point,

> > but I guess that my actions in buying my boys feminine things (pink

> blankets)

> > and leaving the long hair just because I like it... is a sort of a

> small protest on my part.

> >

> > Someone once said every action a protest in your backyard or

> something like that.

> >

> > It is because I feel these colors are imposed and I think that those

> well meaning people, should think twice about these steryotypes or

> classifications.

> >

> > When my son turned four, we went to Toys R Us (for lack of a better

> place) to buy him his very first bycicle Helmet.

> >

> > out of all the colors that there where to choose from.. He chose

> a Pink one.

> > I knew that if we bought that one, he would probably get tease by

> other boys.

> >

> > Then I lied and said the pink one is tooo big, how about another

> one? Then he said , I like purple! (also considered a girls

> color).

> >

> > I mean how do you explain to a four year old that he can't pick out

> certain colors in toys. For what legitimate reason?

> > I mean what would anyone have done?

> > Philosophically it doesn't make sense to him as I am raising him to

> be a free and open thinker who questions and questions.

> > I believe assigning colors is just stupid and homophobic.

> >

> > I think we should all resent our limited choices.

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> > Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> > 8/11/2005 7:08:41 PM

> > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> >

> > Anouk

> >

> > In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

> >

> > When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

> gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

> length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

> everything to confuse them?

> >

> > Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

> pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

> up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

> wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

> >

> > Kristina

> >

> > In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

> >

> > Hi peter,

> >

> > this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

> >

> > when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

> I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

> comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

> >

> > my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

> get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

> a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

> yet?

> >

> > Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

> gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> > At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

> hair? Constantly!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group " " on the web.

> >

> >

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Sounds like they are nazis.

 

Jo

 

 

Actually, we have a few of those nutcase television preachers claiming it

designates homosexuality. That along with triangles.

 

Sheesh, those people need to get a life!

 

Lynda

-

" heartwerk " <heartwork

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:41 AM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> I agree totally with what you say. It is interesting to hear that

> purple is considered feminine - I haven't heard of it being that in

> the UK.

>

> Jo

>

> , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote:

> > I see your point,

> > but I guess that my actions in buying my boys feminine things (pink

> blankets)

> > and leaving the long hair just because I like it... is a sort of a

> small protest on my part.

> >

> > Someone once said every action a protest in your backyard or

> something like that.

> >

> > It is because I feel these colors are imposed and I think that those

> well meaning people, should think twice about these steryotypes or

> classifications.

> >

> > When my son turned four, we went to Toys R Us (for lack of a better

> place) to buy him his very first bycicle Helmet.

> >

> > out of all the colors that there where to choose from.. He chose

> a Pink one.

> > I knew that if we bought that one, he would probably get tease by

> other boys.

> >

> > Then I lied and said the pink one is tooo big, how about another

> one? Then he said , I like purple! (also considered a girls

> color).

> >

> > I mean how do you explain to a four year old that he can't pick out

> certain colors in toys. For what legitimate reason?

> > I mean what would anyone have done?

> > Philosophically it doesn't make sense to him as I am raising him to

> be a free and open thinker who questions and questions.

> > I believe assigning colors is just stupid and homophobic.

> >

> > I think we should all resent our limited choices.

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> > Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> > 8/11/2005 7:08:41 PM

> > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> >

> > Anouk

> >

> > In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

> >

> > When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

> gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

> length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

> everything to confuse them?

> >

> > Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

> pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

> up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

> wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

> >

> > Kristina

> >

> > In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

> >

> > Hi peter,

> >

> > this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

> >

> > when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

> I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

> comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

> >

> > my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

> get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

> a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

> yet?

> >

> > Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

> gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> > At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

> hair? Constantly!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group " " on the web.

> >

> >

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hey..tinky winky was gay!

and spongebob!

and, that shark in that cartoon movie last year..he was obviously trying to

bring down america

thats it..i'm gonna become a televangelist and defend the moral fiber of this

great nation

by fooling around with lotsa womyns...stealing gobs of cash...and by generally

being a hypocritical doofus...

*nods head*

 

 

Lynda <lurine

Aug 13, 2005 8:42 AM

 

Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

Actually, we have a few of those nutcase television preachers claiming it

designates homosexuality. That along with triangles.

 

Sheesh, those people need to get a life!

 

Lynda

-

" heartwerk " <heartwork

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:41 AM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> I agree totally with what you say. It is interesting to hear that

> purple is considered feminine - I haven't heard of it being that in

> the UK.

>

> Jo

>

> , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote:

> > I see your point,

> > but I guess that my actions in buying my boys feminine things (pink

> blankets)

> > and leaving the long hair just because I like it... is a sort of a

> small protest on my part.

> >

> > Someone once said every action a protest in your backyard or

> something like that.

> >

> > It is because I feel these colors are imposed and I think that those

> well meaning people, should think twice about these steryotypes or

> classifications.

> >

> > When my son turned four, we went to Toys R Us (for lack of a better

> place) to buy him his very first bycicle Helmet.

> >

> > out of all the colors that there where to choose from.. He chose

> a Pink one.

> > I knew that if we bought that one, he would probably get tease by

> other boys.

> >

> > Then I lied and said the pink one is tooo big, how about another

> one? Then he said , I like purple! (also considered a girls

> color).

> >

> > I mean how do you explain to a four year old that he can't pick out

> certain colors in toys. For what legitimate reason?

> > I mean what would anyone have done?

> > Philosophically it doesn't make sense to him as I am raising him to

> be a free and open thinker who questions and questions.

> > I believe assigning colors is just stupid and homophobic.

> >

> > I think we should all resent our limited choices.

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> > Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> > 8/11/2005 7:08:41 PM

> > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> >

> > Anouk

> >

> > In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

> >

> > When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

> gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

> length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

> everything to confuse them?

> >

> > Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

> pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

> up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

> wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

> >

> > Kristina

> >

> > In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> writes:

> >

> > Hi peter,

> >

> > this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

> >

> > when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

> I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

> comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so cute "

> >

> > my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

> get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

> a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

> yet?

> >

> > Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

> gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> > At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

> hair? Constantly!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group " " on the web.

> >

> >

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Oh great Fraggle, wonder of wonder, speaker of all truths, great defender of

" the " red, white and blue fiber, holder of the key to the universe, I think

you need a Fiscal Administrator for the great organization you are going to

be running. That would be me, first in line, bowing and scraping. <<bg>>

 

Lynda, gag, sputter, cough, cough.

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:33 AM

Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> hey..tinky winky was gay!

> and spongebob!

> and, that shark in that cartoon movie last year..he was obviously trying

to bring down america

> thats it..i'm gonna become a televangelist and defend the moral fiber of

this great nation

> by fooling around with lotsa womyns...stealing gobs of cash...and by

generally being a hypocritical doofus...

> *nods head*

>

>

> Lynda <lurine

> Aug 13, 2005 8:42 AM

>

> Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

> Actually, we have a few of those nutcase television preachers claiming it

> designates homosexuality. That along with triangles.

>

> Sheesh, those people need to get a life!

>

> Lynda

> -

> " heartwerk " <heartwork

>

> Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:41 AM

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

>

> > I agree totally with what you say. It is interesting to hear that

> > purple is considered feminine - I haven't heard of it being that in

> > the UK.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

> > > I see your point,

> > > but I guess that my actions in buying my boys feminine things (pink

> > blankets)

> > > and leaving the long hair just because I like it... is a sort of a

> > small protest on my part.

> > >

> > > Someone once said every action a protest in your backyard or

> > something like that.

> > >

> > > It is because I feel these colors are imposed and I think that those

> > well meaning people, should think twice about these steryotypes or

> > classifications.

> > >

> > > When my son turned four, we went to Toys R Us (for lack of a better

> > place) to buy him his very first bycicle Helmet.

> > >

> > > out of all the colors that there where to choose from.. He chose

> > a Pink one.

> > > I knew that if we bought that one, he would probably get tease by

> > other boys.

> > >

> > > Then I lied and said the pink one is tooo big, how about another

> > one? Then he said , I like purple! (also considered a girls

> > color).

> > >

> > > I mean how do you explain to a four year old that he can't pick out

> > certain colors in toys. For what legitimate reason?

> > > I mean what would anyone have done?

> > > Philosophically it doesn't make sense to him as I am raising him to

> > be a free and open thinker who questions and questions.

> > > I believe assigning colors is just stupid and homophobic.

> > >

> > > I think we should all resent our limited choices.

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > >

> > > Cc: Lv2breathe@a...

> > > 8/11/2005 7:08:41 PM

> > > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> > >

> > >

> > > Anouk

> > >

> > > In reading this I was just wondering...why are you offended?

> > >

> > > When people see a baby they are nervous as to get the right

> > gender...and will look for tell tale signs like colors and hair

> > length. Why do you get mad when they guess wrong when you did

> > everything to confuse them?

> > >

> > > Look, it's perfectly OK for your little boy to have long hair and a

> > pink blanket, but why get angry at others who are only trying to pick

> > up on cues? Why not give them a break? This is more an issue of them

> > wanting to polite than a huge gender/societal issue.

> > >

> > > Kristina

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/8/05 10:26:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > writes:

> > >

> > > Hi peter,

> > >

> > > this is so true, it is sickening as it happens from birth.

> > >

> > > when my son was born, every single gift item of clothing was blue!

> > I used to wrap him around in a pink blanket and would get tons of

> > comments from my mom, my family, and strangers would say " she is so

cute "

> > >

> > > my two year old has long hair. You don't know how many comments I

> > get from people calling her a " She " and then when I tell them he is

> > a boy they say " haven't had the courage to give him the first haircut

> > yet?

> > >

> > > Well, what if I like his hair that way, I think his hair is

> > gourgeous and why should I cut it!

> > > At gatherings, people and friends ask me when am I gonna cut his

> > hair? Constantly!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visit your group " " on the web.

> > >

> > >

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when i become supreme benevolent dictator for life, i'll keep you in mind

:)

 

actually..it was our goal fer awhile to start our own religion...we had our

oracle, one of my best friends who almost no one can really understand when he

speaks...we were gonna get a cable access program...

ah well..

 

 

fraggle..el supremo mucho grande presidente

 

 

Lynda <lurine

Aug 13, 2005 10:45 AM

 

Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

Oh great Fraggle, wonder of wonder, speaker of all truths, great defender of

" the " red, white and blue fiber, holder of the key to the universe, I think

you need a Fiscal Administrator for the great organization you are going to

be running. That would be me, first in line, bowing and scraping. <<bg>>

 

Lynda, gag, sputter, cough, cough.

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:33 AM

Re: Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

> hey..tinky winky was gay!

> and spongebob!

> and, that shark in that cartoon movie last year..he was obviously trying

to bring down america

> thats it..i'm gonna become a televangelist and defend the moral fiber of

this great nation

> by fooling around with lotsa womyns...stealing gobs of cash...and by

generally being a hypocritical doofus...

> *nods head*

>

>

 

a blinding flash

hotter than the sun

dead bodies lie across the path

the radiation colors the air

finishing one by one

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Hi Jo

 

I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

 

And hope I can figure it out from there.

 

BB

Nikki

 

 

, " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

wrote:

> I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

boy

> or girl before proceeding.

>

> At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

dressed

> in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex

they

> were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

>

> Jo

>

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oh, my baby's name is ryan

sam

 

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Aug 15, 2005 8:49 AM

 

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

Hi Jo

 

I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

 

And hope I can figure it out from there.

 

BB

Nikki

 

 

, " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

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> I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

boy

> or girl before proceeding.

>

> At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

dressed

> in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex

they

> were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

>

> Jo

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Hi Nikki

 

That's a sensible thing to say. I don't think parents of young babies

expect other people to know what sex the baby is. The right answer would be

' his/her name is ......' to make it easy.

 

BB

Jo

 

 

 

Hi Jo

 

I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

 

And hope I can figure it out from there.

 

BB

Nikki

 

 

, " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

wrote:

> I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

boy

> or girl before proceeding.

>

> At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

dressed

> in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex

they

> were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

>

> Jo

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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pat, chris, bobbie, toni, alex... ;)

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> oh, my baby's name is ryan

> sam

>

>

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> Aug 15, 2005 8:49 AM

>

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

> Hi Jo

>

> I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

>

> And hope I can figure it out from there.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

>

> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

> wrote:

> > I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

> boy

> > or girl before proceeding.

> >

> > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

> dressed

> > in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex

> they

> > were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

> >

> > Jo

> >

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but if the answer is 'her name is Chris etc.' then you know.

 

Jo

 

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Monday, August 15, 2005 5:55 PM

Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

 

 

pat, chris, bobbie, toni, alex... ;)

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> oh, my baby's name is ryan

> sam

>

>

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> Aug 15, 2005 8:49 AM

>

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

> Hi Jo

>

> I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

>

> And hope I can figure it out from there.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

>

> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

> wrote:

> > I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

> boy

> > or girl before proceeding.

> >

> > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

> dressed

> > in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex

> they

> > were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

> >

> > Jo

> >

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That doesn't work so good in my case! earthstrm <nikkimack wrote:

Hi JoI always say "What a beautiful baby! What's the name?"And hope I can figure it out from there.BBNikki , "heartwerk" <heartwork@c...> wrote:> I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a boy> or girl before proceeding.> > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be dressed> in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what sex they> were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.> > Jo> Jonnie

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That's why I say hope! :)

 

And then I usually just say, what a great name!

 

Nikki :)

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> oh, my baby's name is ryan

> sam

>

>

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> Aug 15, 2005 8:49 AM

>

> Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

>

> Hi Jo

>

> I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

>

> And hope I can figure it out from there.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

>

> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

> wrote:

> > I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

> boy

> > or girl before proceeding.

> >

> > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

> dressed

> > in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what

sex

> they

> > were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

> >

> > Jo

> >

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Wow, What a nice name! How did you come up with it? Is someone else

in your family named Pat, Chris, Bobbie, etc.

 

If they haven't said he or she by then, I move on.

 

Nikki :)

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

> pat, chris, bobbie, toni, alex... ;)

>

>

>

> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> > oh, my baby's name is ryan

> > sam

> >

> >

> >

> > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> > Aug 15, 2005 8:49 AM

> >

> > Re: Girl Pink Boy Blue

> >

> > Hi Jo

> >

> > I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

> >

> > And hope I can figure it out from there.

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

> >

> > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is

a

> > boy

> > > or girl before proceeding.

> > >

> > > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

> > dressed

> > > in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what

sex

> > they

> > > were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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And you can always reply too:

 

What a beautiful name, how old?

 

Usually they will say he/she is...

 

Nikki :)

 

 

, Jonnie Hellens

<jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> That doesn't work so good in my case!

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:Hi Jo

>

> I always say " What a beautiful baby! What's the name? "

>

> And hope I can figure it out from there.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

>

> , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...>

> wrote:

> > I always think the best thing to do is ask whether the baby is a

> boy

> > or girl before proceeding.

> >

> > At one time in the UK it was normal for all new babies to be

> dressed

> > in white (of course - we didn't have the ability to know what

sex

> they

> > were going to be) so I suppose everyone had to ask.

> >

> > Jo

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