Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 From the replies I see, some of you have missed the point, therefore I repet: I was riding my bike on the road, and one policeman and one policewoman told me that they had seen me riding my bike on the pavement. I am not sure, if they had an eyes problem, but here is something from the booklet "No comment" for the case someone has been arrested: (From my memory, as I don't have the booklet in the internet cafe) Policemen want promotion. The don't want to remain just bobies for all there police life. This is a reason for arrests sometimes. A friend told me, they have to arrest at least 3 person within a certain time (one year?). Yannis How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Yes, policemen have quotas to fill. in NYC, where we used to live, we went in our (first floor) apartment to put some grocery bags inside for a second. when we came out there was a cop giving us a ticket. it seemed like she was watching us go in for a second. meanwhile, five blocks over, there where people breaking into cars at 2:am and nothing was ever done about this. - ioannis Tsoucas 8/18/2005 6:49:06 PM Re: Bike / Pavement / Street From the replies I see, some of you have missed the point, therefore I repet: I was riding my bike on the road, and one policeman and one policewoman told me that they had seen me riding my bike on the pavement. I am not sure, if they had an eyes problem, but here is something from the booklet "No comment" for the case someone has been arrested: (From my memory, as I don't have the booklet in the internet cafe) Policemen want promotion. The don't want to remain just bobies for all there police life. This is a reason for arrests sometimes. A friend told me, they have to arrest at least 3 person within a certain time (one year?). Yannis How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I was offloading my gear after a gig once, when police pulled up and asked me what I was doing!, and when I told them that I was unloading my gear frm the van in to my house, they asked me where I lived?Not the best police investigation of all time! Another time when I was walking home in the snow, police stopped me and asked me where I was going, when I told them, they asked me where my home was. Fair enough I would have thought if they bothered to check any info, but no, they were probably just bored I supposed? The Valley Vegan........."zurumato" <zurumato wrote: Yes, policemen have quotas to fill. in NYC, where we used to live, we went in our (first floor) apartment to put some grocery bags inside for a second. when we came out there was a cop giving us a ticket. it seemed like she was watching us go in for a second. meanwhile, five blocks over, there where people breaking into cars at 2:am and nothing was ever done about this. - ioannis Tsoucas 8/18/2005 6:49:06 PM Re: Bike / Pavement / Street From the replies I see, some of you have missed the point, therefore I repet: I was riding my bike on the road, and one policeman and one policewoman told me that they had seen me riding my bike on the pavement. I am not sure, if they had an eyes problem, but here is something from the booklet "No comment" for the case someone has been arrested: (From my memory, as I don't have the booklet in the internet cafe) Policemen want promotion. The don't want to remain just bobies for all there police life. This is a reason for arrests sometimes. A friend told me, they have to arrest at least 3 person within a certain time (one year?). Yannis How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi Peter > Another time when I was walking home in the snow, police stopped me and asked me where I was going, when I told them, > they asked me where my home was. Now, if that ever happens to me, I'd ask them why they thought it was any of their business. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi Fraggle > with my melted groveries.... That sounds nasty... did you go to see the doctor for treatment? BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 In my experiance, comments like that dont go down well. If you know what I mean! The Valley Vegan.........Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter > Another time when I was walking home in the snow, police stopped me and asked me where I was going, when I told them, > they asked me where my home was. Now, if that ever happens to me, I'd ask them why they thought it was any of their business. BB PeterPeter H How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi Peter >>Now, if that ever happens to me, I'd ask them why they thought it was any of their business. > In my experiance, comments like that dont go down well. If you know what I mean! I do, but it's a matter of knowing your rights. The only time that the police have a right to that information (in the UK) is if they have invoked certain parts of the law. Contrary to popular belief, section 60 of the Criminal Justice Act does *not* give the police that right. Section 14 of the Terrorist Act does - but in order to invoke that, they have to have serious reasons to believe that terrorist activity is going on in that area. Police often don't like being told to mind their own business, but they actually don't have a leg to stand on. If you question them, they have to tell you exactly which section of the law they are asking under. If they arrest you, then they have to have reason for believing you are breaking the law - failure to give your name and address is not reason, and you can sue for wrongful arrest - and they know it! If they invoke certain parts of the law to insist on you giving your name and address, then they have to give you a receipt explaining this - if they have invoked a law without good reason, then you can challenge them in court... they also know this! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hi Peter In Chicago they know this too. Yet they still either beat you, harass you or take you in. They find a loop hole such as resisting arrest or harassing a police officer. If none of the above does happen, then they remember you and wait patiently. Not all are like this, but too many are! BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > Hi Peter > > >>Now, if that ever happens to me, I'd ask them why they thought it was any of their business. > > In my experiance, comments like that dont go down well. If you know what I mean! > > I do, but it's a matter of knowing your rights. The only time that the police have a right to that information (in the UK) is if they have invoked certain parts of the law. Contrary to popular belief, section 60 of the Criminal Justice Act does *not* give the police that right. Section 14 of the Terrorist Act does - but in order to invoke that, they have to have serious reasons to believe that terrorist activity is going on in that area. > > Police often don't like being told to mind their own business, but they actually don't have a leg to stand on. If you question them, they have to tell you exactly which section of the law they are asking under. If they arrest you, then they have to have reason for believing you are breaking the law - failure to give your name and address is not reason, and you can sue for wrongful arrest - and they know it! If they invoke certain parts of the law to insist on you giving your name and address, then they have to give you a receipt explaining this - if they have invoked a law without good reason, then you can challenge them in court... they also know this! > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 .......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see here the police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. Jo - " earthstrm " <nikkimack Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:00 PM Re: Bike / Pavement / Street Hi Peter In Chicago they know this too. Yet they still either beat you, harass you or take you in. They find a loop hole such as resisting arrest or harassing a police officer. If none of the above does happen, then they remember you and wait patiently. Not all are like this, but too many are! BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > Hi Peter > > >>Now, if that ever happens to me, I'd ask them why they thought it was any of their business. > > In my experiance, comments like that dont go down well. If you know what I mean! > > I do, but it's a matter of knowing your rights. The only time that the police have a right to that information (in the UK) is if they have invoked certain parts of the law. Contrary to popular belief, section 60 of the Criminal Justice Act does *not* give the police that right. Section 14 of the Terrorist Act does - but in order to invoke that, they have to have serious reasons to believe that terrorist activity is going on in that area. > > Police often don't like being told to mind their own business, but they actually don't have a leg to stand on. If you question them, they have to tell you exactly which section of the law they are asking under. If they arrest you, then they have to have reason for believing you are breaking the law - failure to give your name and address is not reason, and you can sue for wrongful arrest - and they know it! If they invoke certain parts of the law to insist on you giving your name and address, then they have to give you a receipt explaining this - if they have invoked a law without good reason, then you can challenge them in court... they also know this! > > BB > Peter To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 thats cuz they are on camera and its TV trust me..its not like that fer much of the US..especially if yer in the *wrong area*, the wrong *color*, you dress funny, you look weird, the price of donuts has just gone up, etc Jo Cwazy <heartwork Aug 24, 2005 1:49 PM Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street .......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see here the police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. Jo a blinding flash hotter than the sun dead bodies lie across the path the radiation colors the air finishing one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 The weather changes, your car is the wrong color, your great-grandmother's uncle's step-nephew once called a cop a pig, you are from California and you dare to drive through Texas. Well, unless you are pulling a horse trailer with an AQHA or Paint in it. And the list goes on! Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:25 PM Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > thats cuz they are on camera > and its TV > > trust me..its not like that fer much of the US..especially if yer in the *wrong area*, the wrong *color*, you dress funny, you look weird, the price of donuts has just gone up, etc > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork > Aug 24, 2005 1:49 PM > > Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > > ......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see here the > police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British > programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright > little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. > > Jo > > a blinding flash > hotter than the sun > dead bodies lie across the path > the radiation colors the air > finishing one by one > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 I believe you Fraggle. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:25 PM Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > thats cuz they are on camera > and its TV > > trust me..its not like that fer much of the US..especially if yer in the *wrong area*, the wrong *color*, you dress funny, you look weird, the price of donuts has just gone up, etc > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork > Aug 24, 2005 1:49 PM > > Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > > ......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see here the > police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British > programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright > little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. > > Jo > > a blinding flash > hotter than the sun > dead bodies lie across the path > the radiation colors the air > finishing one by one > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 LOL - but not so funny really. Jo > The weather changes, your car is the wrong color, your great-grandmother's > uncle's step-nephew once called a cop a pig, you are from California and you > dare to drive through Texas. Well, unless you are pulling a horse trailer > with an AQHA or Paint in it. > > And the list goes on! > > Lynda > - > fraggle <EBbrewpunx > > Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:25 PM > Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > > > > thats cuz they are on camera > > and its TV > > > > trust me..its not like that fer much of the US..especially if yer in the > *wrong area*, the wrong *color*, you dress funny, you look weird, the price > of donuts has just gone up, etc > > > > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork > > Aug 24, 2005 1:49 PM > > > > Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > > > > ......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see here > the > > police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British > > programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright > > little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. > > > > Jo > > > > a blinding flash > > hotter than the sun > > dead bodies lie across the path > > the radiation colors the air > > finishing one by one > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 No, it really isn't. My mother used to manage the office of a large Ford dealership and arranged the transfer of cars. So, when they would have one that someone else needed at their dealership, she arranged for someone to drive it there. My little sister took one of the cars to deliver in Texas. We got a call. She was in jail because she and the friend that went with her were giggling and pushing each other as they were walking down the sidewalk from the dealership to the Hertz office. The cops stopped them and asked where they were going. They told him to the Hertz office. Why? Because they were picking up a car. Why? Because they needed to drive home. Where is home? California. You're under arrest. According to him they were acting like they were on drugs and were probably renting a car to deliver drugs. ~~sigh~~ The mentality of some of the Bubba's of this earth! Lynda - " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:03 PM Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street > LOL - but not so funny really. > > Jo > > >> The weather changes, your car is the wrong color, your >> great-grandmother's >> uncle's step-nephew once called a cop a pig, you are from California and > you >> dare to drive through Texas. Well, unless you are pulling a horse >> trailer >> with an AQHA or Paint in it. >> >> And the list goes on! >> >> Lynda >> - >> fraggle <EBbrewpunx >> >> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:25 PM >> Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street >> >> >> > thats cuz they are on camera >> > and its TV >> > >> > trust me..its not like that fer much of the US..especially if yer in >> > the >> *wrong area*, the wrong *color*, you dress funny, you look weird, the > price >> of donuts has just gone up, etc >> > >> > >> > Jo Cwazy <heartwork >> > Aug 24, 2005 1:49 PM >> > >> > Re: Re: Bike / Pavement / Street >> > >> > ......... and yet on the US Highway Blunders type programmes we see >> > here >> the >> > police look so respectable and respectful. The ones on the British >> > programmes here, particularly the Thames Valley Police seem to beright >> > little oiks - very rude and overly aggressive. >> > >> > Jo >> > >> > a blinding flash >> > hotter than the sun >> > dead bodies lie across the path >> > the radiation colors the air >> > finishing one by one >> > >> > >> > >> > To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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