Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 it is kosher they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by from the Vegetarian Resource Group: Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, eggs, and gelatin, in them. Lynda <lurine Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM Re: Re: I'm new to the group Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because someone advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of those cases. For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be followed. One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has to be done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy kosher, they buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides which the geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. Lynda ----- a blinding flash hotter than the sun dead bodies lie across the path the radiation colors the air finishing one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Orthodox Jews do not consider it kosher, it is consider trefa/treyf for several reasons but one of them being that PIG products are tossed into the mix. This argument has been going on since the 1930s. " " Jell-O was absolutely trefa as the gelatine contained in this product is derived from trefa bones and parts of skins as for instance the skins of hams, etc. " The Kosher Food Guide And from Jew FAQs " The most controversial certification is the K, a plain letter K found on products asserted to be kosher. A letter of the alphabet cannot be trademarked, so any manufacturer can put a K on a product. For example, Jell-O brand gelatin puts a K on its product, even though every reliable Orthodox authority agrees that Jell-O is not kosher. " Search Jell-O on OU Kosher and the results are no such product http://oukosher.org/index.php/products/p_search_results/ Knox Gelatin isn't kosher either and for the same reason, combo of beef and pork to get the gelatin. Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:10 PM Re: Rejell-o > > it is kosher > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by > > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, eggs, and gelatin, in them. > > > Lynda <lurine > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM > > Re: Re: I'm new to the group > > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because someone > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of > those cases. > > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be followed. > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has to be > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy kosher, they > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides which the > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. > > Lynda > ----- > > a blinding flash > hotter than the sun > dead bodies lie across the path > the radiation colors the air > finishing one by one > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > it is kosher > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by > > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, eggs, and gelatin, in them. > > > Lynda <lurine@s...> > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM > > Re: Re: I'm new to the group > > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because someone > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of > those cases. > > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be followed. > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has to be > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy kosher, they > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides which the > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. > > Lynda > ----- > > a blinding flash > hotter than the sun > dead bodies lie across the path > the radiation colors the air > finishing one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 We use Hains, by Hains Celestial Group they make cherry "jello" and some chocolate puddings, since I'm not jewish, I don't really notice these things but I believe that they have the little K for kosher. like I said don't know much about it, alls I know is that they are vegan and they taste real good. - Lynda 8/28/2005 10:59:45 AM Re: Rejell-o Orthodox Jews do not consider it kosher, it is consider trefa/treyf forseveral reasons but one of them being that PIG products are tossed into themix. This argument has been going on since the 1930s. ""Jell-O wasabsolutely trefa as the gelatine contained in this product is derived fromtrefa bones and parts of skins as for instance the skins of hams, etc." TheKosher Food GuideAnd from Jew FAQs "The most controversial certification is the K, a plainletter K found on products asserted to be kosher. A letter of the alphabetcannot be trademarked, so any manufacturer can put a K on a product. Forexample, Jell-O brand gelatin puts a K on its product, even though everyreliable Orthodox authority agrees that Jell-O is not kosher."Search Jell-O on OU Kosher and the results are no such producthttp://oukosher.org/index.php/products/p_search_results/Knox Gelatin isn't kosher either and for the same reason, combo of beef andpork to get the gelatin.Lynda-fraggle <EBbrewpunxSaturday, August 27, 2005 1:10 PMRe: Rejell-o>> it is kosher> they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by>> from the Vegetarian Resource Group:> Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. Contrary toassumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with dairy products.Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides used in gelatinproduction are considered pareve. The general meaning of pareve refers tofoods that are neither milk nor meat, and many people assume this means thatthe product is vegetarian. However, OU pareve certified ingredients can haveanimal products, such as fish, eggs, and gelatin, in them.>> > Lynda <lurine> Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM> > Re: Re: I'm new to the group>> Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because someone> advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of> those cases.>> For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be followed.> One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has to be> done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy kosher,they> buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides whichthe> geletin that Jell-O uses has in it.>> Lynda> ----->> a blinding flash> hotter than the sun> dead bodies lie across the path> the radiation colors the air> finishing one by one>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones and hide (fish and pork). Lynda - cheer_bears_surprise <ishtar626 Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM Re: Rejell-o > are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O > it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure. > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > > it is kosher > > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by > > > > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: > > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. > Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with > dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides > used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning > of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many > people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU > pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, > eggs, and gelatin, in them. > > > > > > Lynda <lurine@s...> > > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM > > > > Re: Re: I'm new to the group > > > > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because > someone > > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of > > those cases. > > > > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be > followed. > > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has > to be > > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy > kosher, they > > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides > which the > > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. > > > > Lynda > > ----- > > > > a blinding flash > > hotter than the sun > > dead bodies lie across the path > > the radiation colors the air > > finishing one by one > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 hey..parts is parts sorry..couldn't resist a horrid 80's reference..... Lynda <lurine Aug 28, 2005 10:40 AM Re: Re: Rejell-o yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones and hide (fish and pork). Lynda - cheer_bears_surprise <ishtar626 Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM Re: Rejell-o > are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O > it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure. > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > > it is kosher > > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by > > > > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: > > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. > Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with > dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides > used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning > of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many > people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU > pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, > eggs, and gelatin, in them. > > > > > > Lynda <lurine@s...> > > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM > > > > Re: Re: I'm new to the group > > > > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because > someone > > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of > > those cases. > > > > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be > followed. > > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has > to be > > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy > kosher, they > > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides > which the > > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. > > > > Lynda > > ----- > > > > a blinding flash > > hotter than the sun > > dead bodies lie across the path > > the radiation colors the air > > finishing one by one > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 hey..i never said it made sense.... i know some jews consider it trefa and personally. come on, its ground up animal bits..how much nastier can you get but all you need t odo is find one rabbincal organization to give you the proper blessings, and away you go... the whole loophole as i understand it is the us government doesn't consider jell-o a meat(or meat by product) since its undergone a transformation.... Lynda <lurine Aug 27, 2005 3:06 PM Re: Rejell-o Orthodox Jews do not consider it kosher, it is consider trefa/treyf for several reasons but one of them being that PIG products are tossed into the mix. This argument has been going on since the 1930s. " " Jell-O was absolutely trefa as the gelatine contained in this product is derived from trefa bones and parts of skins as for instance the skins of hams, etc. " The Kosher Food Guide And from Jew FAQs " The most controversial certification is the K, a plain letter K found on products asserted to be kosher. A letter of the alphabet cannot be trademarked, so any manufacturer can put a K on a product. For example, Jell-O brand gelatin puts a K on its product, even though every reliable Orthodox authority agrees that Jell-O is not kosher. " Search Jell-O on OU Kosher and the results are no such product http://oukosher.org/index.php/products/p_search_results/ Knox Gelatin isn't kosher either and for the same reason, combo of beef and pork to get the gelatin. Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:10 PM Re: Rejell-o > > it is kosher > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by > > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, eggs, and gelatin, in them. > > > Lynda <lurine > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM > > Re: Re: I'm new to the group > > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because someone > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of > those cases. > > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be followed. > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has to be > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy kosher, they > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides which the > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. > > Lynda > ----- > > a blinding flash > hotter than the sun > dead bodies lie across the path > the radiation colors the air > finishing one by one > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Try living down the road from a company with tanker trucks paid a putrid green with the name on the side " Soiland " The kidlets used to warn each other that if they didn't behavie they'd end up in one of those trucks <g> Lynda - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Monday, August 29, 2005 8:27 AM Re: Re: Rejell-o > hey..parts is parts > sorry..couldn't resist a horrid 80's reference..... > > > Lynda <lurine > Aug 28, 2005 10:40 AM > > Re: Re: Rejell-o > > yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones > and > hide (fish and pork). > > Lynda > - > cheer_bears_surprise <ishtar626 > > Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM > Re: Rejell-o > > >> are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O >> it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure. >> >> >> >> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: >> > >> > it is kosher >> > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by >> > >> > from the Vegetarian Resource Group: >> > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins. >> Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with >> dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides >> used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning >> of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many >> people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU >> pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish, >> eggs, and gelatin, in them. >> > >> > >> > Lynda <lurine@s...> >> > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM >> > >> > Re: Re: I'm new to the group >> > >> > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because >> someone >> > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of >> > those cases. >> > >> > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be >> followed. >> > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has >> to be >> > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy >> kosher, they >> > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides >> which the >> > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it. >> > >> > Lynda >> > ----- >> > >> > a blinding flash >> > hotter than the sun >> > dead bodies lie across the path >> > the radiation colors the air >> > finishing one by one >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Soiland - green trucks! Am I the only one who noticed the simularity with Soylent Green? Or am I being thick and stating the obvious? The Valley Vegan.............Lynda <lurine wrote: Try living down the road from a company with tanker trucks paid a putrid green with the name on the side "Soiland"The kidlets used to warn each other that if they didn't behavie they'd end up in one of those trucks Lynda- "fraggle" Monday, August 29, 2005 8:27 AMRe: Re: Rejell-o> hey..parts is parts> sorry..couldn't resist a horrid 80's reference.....>> > Lynda > Aug 28, 2005 10:40 AM> > Re: Re: Rejell-o>> yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones > and> hide (fish and pork).>> Lynda> -> cheer_bears_surprise > > Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM> Re: Rejell-o>>>> are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O>> it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure.>>>>>>>> , fraggle wrote:>> >>> > it is kosher>> > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by>> >>> > from the Vegetarian Resource Group:>> > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins.>> Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with>> dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides>> used in gelatin production are considered pareve. The general meaning>> of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many>> people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU>> pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish,>> eggs, and gelatin, in them.>> >>> > >> > Lynda >> > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM>> > >> > Re: Re: I'm new to the group>> >>> > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because>> someone>> > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of>> > those cases.>> >>> > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be>> followed.>> > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is killed and it has>> to be>> > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy>> kosher, they>> > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides>> which the>> > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it.>> >>> > Lynda>> > ----->> >>> > a blinding flash>> > hotter than the sun>> > dead bodies lie across the path>> > the radiation colors the air>> > finishing one by one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 You are being thick <g> That was the point <<bg>> of the kidlets saying if they didn't behave they might end up in one of the trucks. Lynda - peter hurd Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:50 AM Re: Re: Rejell-o Soiland - green trucks! Am I the only one who noticed the simularity with Soylent Green? Or am I being thick and stating the obvious? The Valley Vegan.............Lynda <lurine wrote: Try living down the road from a company with tanker trucks paid a putrid green with the name on the side "Soiland"The kidlets used to warn each other that if they didn't behavie they'd end up in one of those trucks Lynda- "fraggle" Monday, August 29, 2005 8:27 AMRe: Re: Rejell-o> hey..parts is parts> sorry..couldn't resist a horrid 80's reference.....>> > Lynda > Aug 28, 2005 10:40 AM> > Re: Re: Rejell-o>> yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones > and> hide (fish and pork).>> Lynda> -> cheer_bears_surprise > > Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM> Re: Rejell-o>>>> are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O>> it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure.>>>>>>>> , fraggle wrote:>> >>> > it is kosher>> > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by>> >>> > from the Vegetarian Resource Group:>> > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins.>> Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with>> dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides>> used in gelatin production are considered pareve . The general meaning>> of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many>> people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU>> pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish,>> eggs, and gelatin, in them.>> >>> > >> > Lynda >> > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM>> > >> > Re: Re: I'm new to the group>> >>> > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because>> someone>> > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of>> > those cases.>> >>> > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be>> followed.>> > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is kil led and it has>> to be>> > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy>> kosher, they>> > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides>> which the>> > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it.>> >>> > Lynda>> > ----->> >>> > a blinding flash>> > hotter than the sun>> > dead bodies lie across the path>> > the radiation colors the air>> > finishing one by one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sorry, .........drools,........picks up banjo.........sits on porch..........fancies my cousin.......drools some more.........................duh. The Valley Vegan..........Lynda <lurine wrote: You are being thick <g> That was the point <<bg>> of the kidlets saying if they didn't behave they might end up in one of the trucks. Lynda - peter hurd Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:50 AM Re: Re: Rejell-o Soiland - green trucks! Am I the only one who noticed the simularity with Soylent Green? Or am I being thick and stating the obvious? The Valley Vegan.............Lynda <lurine wrote: Try living down the road from a company with tanker trucks paid a putrid green with the name on the side "Soiland"The kidlets used to warn each other that if they didn't behavie they'd end up in one of those trucks Lynda- "fraggle" Monday, August 29, 2005 8:27 AMRe: Re: Rejell-o> hey..parts is parts> sorry..couldn't resist a horrid 80's reference.....>> > Lynda > Aug 28, 2005 10:40 AM> > Re: Re: Rejell-o>> yes. full of beef bones, beef hide, and various and sundry other bones > and> hide (fish and pork).>> Lynda> -> cheer_bears_surprise > > Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:48 PM> Re: Rejell-o>>>> are we talking about the same stuff? Ya know, bill cosby, J-E-L-L-O>> it jiggles and wiggles......just thought Id make sure.>>>>>>>> , fraggle wrote:>> >>> > it is kosher>> > they have a certified orthodox rabbi come by>> >>> > from the Vegetarian Resource Group:>> > Kosher gelatin can be made with fish bones, and/or beef skins.>> Contrary to assumptions, it is also considered kosher to use it with>> dairy products. Kosher law is very complex and the bones and hides>> used in gelatin production are considered pareve . The general meaning>> of pareve refers to foods that are neither milk nor meat, and many>> people assume this means that the product is vegetarian. However, OU>> pareve certified ingredients can have animal products, such as fish,>> eggs, and gelatin, in them.>> >>> > >> > Lynda >> > Aug 27, 2005 2:35 PM>> > >> > Re: Re: I'm new to the group>> >>> > Fraggle, Jell-O is NOT kosher! You need to remember that because>> someone>> > advertises something as something doesn't make it fact. This is one of>> > those cases.>> >>> > For something to be kosher there are certain rules that must be>> followed.>> > One of the rules for beef is the way the animal is kil led and it has>> to be>> > done under the supervision of a rabbi. Jell-O doesn't not buy>> kosher, they>> > buy whatever they can get. And kosher wouldn't include the hides>> which the>> > geletin that Jell-O uses has in it.>> >>> > Lynda>> > ----->> >>> > a blinding flash>> > hotter than the sun>> > dead bodies lie across the path>> > the radiation colors the air>> > finishing one by one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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