Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have spoken of their " horrendous " experiences. Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, intimidation, and looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young and elderly. Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with her sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and Mississippi. There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets, there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are heading home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have been in New Orleans when the storm hit. Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was travelling with two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but who now lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and arrived in New Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that compulsory evacuation had been ordered. Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our hotel reception and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. But they'd stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the tourists or put it out on the news. " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless rescue van and they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up and got in on the Sunday afternoon. " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us knew what we were in for Swansea student Charlotte Scott She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the battery ran out and could not contact them again until Thursday. Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight toilets for at least 20,000 people. " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. 'Threatened racially' " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets, there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's squalor. " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were 100 of us (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you as though you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating. " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were queueing up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every now and then. " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the Coke machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " But while they were intimidated by some people, others were helpful. " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would offer us food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their families. New Orleans remains under water " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, there are some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we did because I dread to think what it would be like now. " She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little kids in that place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three babies being born. " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as much help as possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography studies in Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with other travellers in the superdome to survive. She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and everyone, most people just wanted to survive. " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us knew what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away by the army and others were getting angry and gnarled up. " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole time. In the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. It was not a week - just a strange time in my life. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house? The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: Welsh survivors' hurricane ordealJane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick AirportSurvivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have spoken of their"horrendous" experiences.Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, intimidation, andlooting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days.She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young and elderly.Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with hersister Rebecca, 20, said: "I can't express how bad it was."Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana andMississippi.There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets,there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalorJane Wheeldon on conditions in the SuperdomeAbout 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are headinghome, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have been in NewOrleans when the storm hit.Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was travelling withtwo friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but who nowlives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull.They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and arrived in NewOrleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that compulsoryevacuation had been ordered.Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown homeAfter arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: "We went to our hotel receptionand asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'.""We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. But they'dstopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the touristsor put it out on the news."Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless rescue van andthey picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up and got inon the Sunday afternoon."Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of usknew what we were in forSwansea student Charlotte ScottShe called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the battery ranout and could not contact them again until Thursday.Ms Wheeldon called conditions "disgusting," with just eight toilets for atleast 20,000 people."Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous.'Threatened racially'"There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets,there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's squalor."We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were 100 of us(foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially.(L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK"You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you asthough you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating."On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were queueingup for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every now andthen."Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the Cokemachines and cigarette machines and were selling them on."But while they were intimidated by some people, others were helpful."We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would offer usfood when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their families.New Orleans remains under water"There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, there aresome horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we didbecause I dread to think what it would be like now."She added: "It's heartbreaking because there are so many little kids in thatplace. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three babies beingborn."The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as much help aspossible otherwise they are not going to make it."Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography studies inSwansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with othertravellers in the superdome to survive.She said: "Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and everyone,most people just wanted to survive."Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us knewwhat we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away by the armyand others were getting angry and gnarled up."The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole time. Inthe toilets, you just couldn't go in there."It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. It was nota week - just a strange time in my life." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you as though you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating. " Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. -Anna , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house? > > The Valley Vegan........... > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have spoken of their > " horrendous " experiences. > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, intimidation, and > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young and elderly. > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with her > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and > Mississippi. > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets, > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are heading > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have been in New > Orleans when the storm hit. > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was travelling with > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but who now > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and arrived in New > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that compulsory > evacuation had been ordered. > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our hotel reception > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. But they'd > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the tourists > or put it out on the news. > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless rescue van and > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up and got in > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us > knew what we were in for > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the battery ran > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight toilets for at > least 20,000 people. > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > 'Threatened racially' > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets, > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's squalor. > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were 100 of us > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you as > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating. > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were queueing > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every now and > then. > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the Coke > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were helpful. > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would offer us > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their families. > > > New Orleans remains under water > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, there are > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we did > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little kids in that > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three babies being > born. > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as much help as > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography studies in > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with other > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and everyone, > most people just wanted to survive. > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us knew > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away by the army > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole time. In > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. It was not > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were 100 of us> (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially." Whatever the level it aint right. The Valley Vegan.....snakewoman327 <annacblaine wrote: "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you asthough you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating."Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched.-Anna , peter hurd wrote:> What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house?> > The Valley Vegan...........> > Jo Cwazy wrote:> > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal> > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport> Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have spoken of their> "horrendous" experiences.> Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, intimidation, and> looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days.> > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young and elderly.> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with her> sister Rebecca, 20, said: "I can't express how bad it was."> > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and> Mississippi.> > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets,> there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor> > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome> About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are heading> home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have been in New> Orleans when the storm hit.> > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was travelling with> two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but who now> lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull.> > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and arrived in New> Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that compulsory> evacuation had been ordered.> > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home> After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: "We went to our hotel reception> and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'."> > "We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. But they'd> stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the tourists> or put it out on the news.> > "Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless rescue van and> they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up and got in> on the Sunday afternoon."> > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us> knew what we were in for> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott> She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the battery ran> out and could not contact them again until Thursday.> > Ms Wheeldon called conditions "disgusting," with just eight toilets for at> least 20,000 people.> > "Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous.> > 'Threatened racially'> > "There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the toilets,> there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's squalor.> > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were 100 of us> (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially.> > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK> "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you as> though you were completely and utterly different. It was so intimidating.> > "On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were queueing> up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every now and> then.> > "Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the Coke> machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on."> > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were helpful.> > "We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would offer us> food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their families.> > > New Orleans remains under water> "There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, there are> some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we did> because I dread to think what it would be like now."> > She added: "It's heartbreaking because there are so many little kids in that> place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three babies being> born.> > "The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as much help as> possible otherwise they are not going to make it."> > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography studies in> Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with other> travellers in the superdome to survive.> > She said: "Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and everyone,> most people just wanted to survive.> > "Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of us knew> what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away by the army> and others were getting angry and gnarled up.> > "The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole time. In> the toilets, you just couldn't go in there.> > "It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. It was not> a week - just a strange time in my life."> > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they got " stared at? " Deal with it. I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for example. -Anna , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " > Whatever the level it aint right. > > The Valley Vegan..... > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > as > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. " > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > -Anna > > > > > , peter hurd wrote: > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house? > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote: > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > spoken of their > > " horrendous " experiences. > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > intimidation, and > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > and elderly. > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with > her > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and > > Mississippi. > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > heading > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > been in New > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > travelling with > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but > who now > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > arrived in New > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > compulsory > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our hotel > reception > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. > But they'd > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the > tourists > > or put it out on the news. > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > rescue van and > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > and got in > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of > us > > knew what we were in for > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > battery ran > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > toilets for at > > least 20,000 people. > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > squalor. > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were > queueing > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > now and > > then. > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > Coke > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > helpful. > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would > offer us > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > families. > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > there are > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we > did > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > kids in that > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > babies being > > born. > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > much help as > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > studies in > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > other > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > everyone, > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of us knew > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > by the army > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > time. In > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. > It was not > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 i'm with you in this anna... they got to leave everyone else guess wot they got NOTHING snakewoman327 <annacblaine Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they got " stared at? " Deal with it. I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for example. -Anna , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " > Whatever the level it aint right. > > The Valley Vegan..... > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > as > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. " > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > -Anna > > > > > , peter hurd wrote: > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house? > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote: > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > spoken of their > > " horrendous " experiences. > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > intimidation, and > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > and elderly. > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with > her > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and > > Mississippi. > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > heading > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > been in New > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > travelling with > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but > who now > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > arrived in New > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > compulsory > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our hotel > reception > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. > But they'd > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the > tourists > > or put it out on the news. > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > rescue van and > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > and got in > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of > us > > knew what we were in for > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > battery ran > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > toilets for at > > least 20,000 people. > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > squalor. > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were > queueing > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > now and > > then. > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > Coke > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > helpful. > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would > offer us > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > families. > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > there are > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we > did > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > kids in that > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > babies being > > born. > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > much help as > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > studies in > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > other > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > everyone, > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of us knew > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > by the army > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > time. In > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. > It was not > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 - " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > as > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. " > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > Ya know, I waited to the end of the e-mails to respond to this because what I felt like saying was really nasty! So now I am calmer. Get a grip! They are young girls in a locked down area where rapes were taking place, people were dying and believe me, looks can be intimidating. So, why did you jump on the black vs. white bandwagon? I notice the girls didn't in the interview. They didn't say black people were staring at us. They said everybody and everybody included white folks, black folks, Cajuns, Crackers and a host of other folks. AND, btw, a group of Welsh girls chattering away with easily defined as " different " accents would have stood out like a sore thumb! So get over the racist crap! Lynda, a person of " color " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Oh piffle. There is no excuse. Geez Louise, no wonder it is an excuse driven society! Maybe the racists in that building need to get over it. Or perhaps like any bullies they saw some young girls and got off and scaring the piss out of them! OR perhaps you have forgotten, conveniently, that some of these nice folks in that building were busy raping folks?! So I guess you'd merrily stroll along and say to yourself, " oh my, in a day or two these 'nice' people will find out that they have lost their homes and some family members, so I need to excuse their unexcusable behavior now. " Gee, I bet you believe in the Twinkie defense! Lynda - " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:37 PM Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got " stared at? " Deal with it. > > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example. > > -Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Excuse me, that isn't correct. Everyone got to leave. There are no folks still in the Astrodome. Lynda - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:59 PM Re: Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > i'm with you in this anna... > they got to leave > everyone else > guess wot > they got NOTHING > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine > Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM > > Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got " stared at? " Deal with it. > > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example. > > -Anna > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: >> " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were >> 100 of us >> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " >> Whatever the level it aint right. >> >> The Valley Vegan..... >> >> >> snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: >> " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you >> as >> though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> intimidating. " >> >> Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure >> getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. >> >> -Anna >> >> >> >> >> , peter hurd wrote: >> > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial >> harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic >> when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt >> getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing >> to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house? >> > >> > The Valley Vegan........... >> > >> > Jo Cwazy wrote: >> > >> > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal >> > >> > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport >> > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have >> spoken of their >> > " horrendous " experiences. >> > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, >> intimidation, and >> > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. >> > >> > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young >> and elderly. >> > >> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with >> her >> > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " >> > >> > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and >> > Mississippi. >> > >> > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> toilets, >> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor >> > >> > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome >> > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are >> heading >> > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have >> been in New >> > Orleans when the storm hit. >> > >> > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was >> travelling with >> > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but >> who now >> > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. >> > >> > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and >> arrived in New >> > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that >> compulsory >> > evacuation had been ordered. >> > >> > >> > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home >> > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our > hotel >> reception >> > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " >> > >> > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. >> But they'd >> > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the >> tourists >> > or put it out on the news. >> > >> > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless >> rescue van and >> > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up >> and got in >> > on the Sunday afternoon. " >> > >> > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of >> us >> > knew what we were in for >> > >> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott >> > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the >> battery ran >> > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. >> > >> > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight >> toilets for at >> > least 20,000 people. >> > >> > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. >> > >> > 'Threatened racially' >> > >> > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> toilets, >> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's >> squalor. >> > >> > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were >> 100 of us >> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. >> > >> > >> > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK >> > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at >> you as >> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> intimidating. >> > >> > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were >> queueing >> > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every >> now and >> > then. >> > >> > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the >> Coke >> > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " >> > >> > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were >> helpful. >> > >> > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would >> offer us >> > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their >> families. >> > >> > >> > New Orleans remains under water >> > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, >> there are >> > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we >> did >> > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " >> > >> > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little >> kids in that >> > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three >> babies being >> > born. >> > >> > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as >> much help as >> > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " >> > >> > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography >> studies in >> > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with >> other >> > travellers in the superdome to survive. >> > >> > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and >> everyone, >> > most people just wanted to survive. >> > >> > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none >> of us knew >> > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away >> by the army >> > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. >> > >> > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole >> time. In >> > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. >> > >> > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. >> It was not >> > a week - just a strange time in my life. " >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To send an email to - >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 A stare can say a lot and cause a lot of fear. A stare is not usually blank - it has intent that comes through. Try it sometime - look at someone you don't know and think something like trying to make them feel uneasy or edgy - it will work. I'm not saying this is a good thing to do - but your intent will come through in your look. Also they are 19/20 year old English girls - probably have a different way of talking to Americans - as we have all noted on this list. Jo , " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > as > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. " > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > -Anna > > > > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house? > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > spoken of their > > " horrendous " experiences. > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > intimidation, and > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > and elderly. > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with > her > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and > > Mississippi. > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > heading > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > been in New > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > travelling with > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but > who now > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > arrived in New > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > compulsory > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our hotel > reception > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. > But they'd > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the > tourists > > or put it out on the news. > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > rescue van and > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > and got in > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of > us > > knew what we were in for > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > battery ran > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > toilets for at > > least 20,000 people. > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets, > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > squalor. > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating. > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were > queueing > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > now and > > then. > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > Coke > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > helpful. > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would > offer us > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > families. > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > there are > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we > did > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > kids in that > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > babies being > > born. > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > much help as > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > studies in > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > other > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > everyone, > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of us knew > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > by the army > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > time. In > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. > It was not > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Are you trying to say that nobody should express an opinion unless the worst imaginable thing has happened to them. Are they not allowed to talk about their experiences because someone else has had worse experiences. Sounds like a good way of gagging people. Also sounds like the mentality that says 'big boys don't cry'. Jo , " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got " stared at? " Deal with it. > > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example. > > -Anna > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > > 100 of us > > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " > > Whatever the level it aint right. > > > > The Valley Vegan..... > > > > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you > > as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. " > > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > > > -Anna > > > > > > > > > > , peter hurd wrote: > > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial > > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic > > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing > > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house? > > > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote: > > > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > > spoken of their > > > " horrendous " experiences. > > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > > intimidation, and > > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > > and elderly. > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with > > her > > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and > > > Mississippi. > > > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > > heading > > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > > been in New > > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > > travelling with > > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but > > who now > > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > > arrived in New > > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > > compulsory > > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our > hotel > > reception > > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. > > But they'd > > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the > > tourists > > > or put it out on the news. > > > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > > rescue van and > > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > > and got in > > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of > > us > > > knew what we were in for > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > > battery ran > > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > > toilets for at > > > least 20,000 people. > > > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > > squalor. > > > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were > > 100 of us > > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK > > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > > you as > > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. > > > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were > > queueing > > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > > now and > > > then. > > > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > > Coke > > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > > helpful. > > > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would > > offer us > > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > > families. > > > > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > > there are > > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we > > did > > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > > kids in that > > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > > babies being > > > born. > > > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > > much help as > > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > > studies in > > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > > other > > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > > everyone, > > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > > of us knew > > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > > by the army > > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > > time. In > > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. > > It was not > > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I still think people have a right to talk about their personal experience of events. If the worst affected were the only ones allowed to comment there wouldn't be any comments because the worst affected people are the dead ones. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > i'm with you in this anna... > they got to leave > everyone else > guess wot > they got NOTHING > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> > Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM > > Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got " stared at? " Deal with it. > > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example. > > -Anna > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > > 100 of us > > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " > > Whatever the level it aint right. > > > > The Valley Vegan..... > > > > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you > > as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. " > > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > > > -Anna > > > > > > > > > > , peter hurd wrote: > > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial > > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic > > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing > > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house? > > > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote: > > > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > > spoken of their > > > " horrendous " experiences. > > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > > intimidation, and > > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > > and elderly. > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with > > her > > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and > > > Mississippi. > > > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > > heading > > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > > been in New > > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > > travelling with > > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but > > who now > > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > > arrived in New > > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > > compulsory > > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our > hotel > > reception > > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. > > But they'd > > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the > > tourists > > > or put it out on the news. > > > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > > rescue van and > > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > > and got in > > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of > > us > > > knew what we were in for > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > > battery ran > > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > > toilets for at > > > least 20,000 people. > > > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > > squalor. > > > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were > > 100 of us > > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK > > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > > you as > > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. > > > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were > > queueing > > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > > now and > > > then. > > > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > > Coke > > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > > helpful. > > > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would > > offer us > > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > > families. > > > > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > > there are > > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we > > did > > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > > kids in that > > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > > babies being > > > born. > > > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > > much help as > > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > > studies in > > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > > other > > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > > everyone, > > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > > of us knew > > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > > by the army > > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > > time. In > > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. > > It was not > > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Well said Lynda. If you know the situation is volatile enough for people to be raping you have every right to be scared silly. Jo , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > - > " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine@h...> > > > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > > as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. " > > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > > Ya know, I waited to the end of the e-mails to respond to this because what > I felt like saying was really nasty! So now I am calmer. > > Get a grip! They are young girls in a locked down area where rapes were > taking place, people were dying and believe me, looks can be intimidating. > > So, why did you jump on the black vs. white bandwagon? I notice the girls > didn't in the interview. They didn't say black people were staring at us. > They said everybody and everybody included white folks, black folks, Cajuns, > Crackers and a host of other folks. AND, btw, a group of Welsh girls > chattering away with easily defined as " different " accents would have stood > out like a sore thumb! > > So get over the racist crap! > > Lynda, a person of " color " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I've probably just given Valley Vegan an apoplectic fit - sorry Peter - Welsh girls (see I'm all inclusive and the difference in races means nothing to me). Jo , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > A stare can say a lot and cause a lot of fear. A stare is not > usually blank - it has intent that comes through. Try it sometime - > look at someone you don't know and think something like trying to > make them feel uneasy or edgy - it will work. I'm not saying this is > a good thing to do - but your intent will come through in your look. > > Also they are 19/20 year old English girls - probably have a > different way of talking to Americans - as we have all noted on this > list. > > Jo > > , " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine@h...> > wrote: > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you > > as > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. " > > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. > > > > -Anna > > > > > > > > > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial > > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic > > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing > > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house? > > > > > > The Valley Vegan........... > > > > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport > > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > > spoken of their > > > " horrendous " experiences. > > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > > intimidation, and > > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. > > > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > > and elderly. > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with > > her > > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " > > > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and > > > Mississippi. > > > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor > > > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome > > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > > heading > > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > > been in New > > > Orleans when the storm hit. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > > travelling with > > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but > > who now > > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. > > > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > > arrived in New > > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > > compulsory > > > evacuation had been ordered. > > > > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home > > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our > hotel > > reception > > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " > > > > > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. > > But they'd > > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the > > tourists > > > or put it out on the news. > > > > > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > > rescue van and > > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > > and got in > > > on the Sunday afternoon. " > > > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of > > us > > > knew what we were in for > > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott > > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > > battery ran > > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. > > > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight > > toilets for at > > > least 20,000 people. > > > > > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. > > > > > > 'Threatened racially' > > > > > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets, > > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > > squalor. > > > > > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were > > 100 of us > > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. > > > > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK > > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > > you as > > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating. > > > > > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were > > queueing > > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > > now and > > > then. > > > > > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > > Coke > > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " > > > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > > helpful. > > > > > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would > > offer us > > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > > families. > > > > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water > > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > > there are > > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we > > did > > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " > > > > > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > > kids in that > > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > > babies being > > > born. > > > > > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > > much help as > > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " > > > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > > studies in > > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > > other > > > travellers in the superdome to survive. > > > > > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > > everyone, > > > most people just wanted to survive. > > > > > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > > of us knew > > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > > by the army > > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. > > > > > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > > time. In > > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. > > > > > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. > > It was not > > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 That doesn't work because I seriously doubt that the folks doing the staring had any experience what so ever with lynchings! Hey, maybe Italian-Americans should stare at folks since NO's most enfamous lynching was of 11 Italian-Americans! Oh, and rape and steal and shot at Army Corp of Engineers and rescue helicopters. I mean, it would be justified in light of the lynchings, right? Lynda, sarcasm intended - " heartwerk " <heartwork Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:53 PM Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > Are you trying to say that nobody should express an opinion unless > the worst imaginable thing has happened to them. Are they not > allowed to talk about their experiences because someone else has had > worse experiences. Sounds like a good way of gagging people. Also > sounds like the mentality that says 'big boys don't cry'. > > Jo > > , " snakewoman327 " <annacblaine@h...> > wrote: >> No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while >> others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives >> destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they >> got " stared at? " Deal with it. >> >> I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance >> of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things > than >> being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for >> example. >> >> -Anna >> >> , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: >> > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were >> > 100 of us >> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " >> > Whatever the level it aint right. >> > >> > The Valley Vegan..... >> > >> > >> > snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: >> > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at >> you >> > as >> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> > intimidating. " >> > >> > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure >> > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. >> > >> > -Anna >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , peter hurd wrote: >> > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get >> racial >> > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit >> ironic >> > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt >> > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? >> Nothing >> > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white >> house? >> > > >> > > The Valley Vegan........... >> > > >> > > Jo Cwazy wrote: >> > > >> > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal >> > > >> > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport >> > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have >> > spoken of their >> > > " horrendous " experiences. >> > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, >> > intimidation, and >> > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. >> > > >> > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young >> > and elderly. >> > > >> > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome >> with >> > her >> > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " >> > > >> > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana >> and >> > > Mississippi. >> > > >> > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> > toilets, >> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor >> > > >> > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome >> > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are >> > heading >> > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to > have >> > been in New >> > > Orleans when the storm hit. >> > > >> > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was >> > travelling with >> > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, >> but >> > who now >> > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. >> > > >> > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and >> > arrived in New >> > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day > that >> > compulsory >> > > evacuation had been ordered. >> > > >> > > >> > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown > home >> > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our >> hotel >> > reception >> > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " >> > > >> > > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the >> area. >> > But they'd >> > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell >> the >> > tourists >> > > or put it out on the news. >> > > >> > > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless >> > rescue van and >> > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up >> > and got in >> > > on the Sunday afternoon. " >> > > >> > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none >> of >> > us >> > > knew what we were in for >> > > >> > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott >> > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but > the >> > battery ran >> > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. >> > > >> > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight >> > toilets for at >> > > least 20,000 people. >> > > >> > > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. >> > > >> > > 'Threatened racially' >> > > >> > > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> > toilets, >> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - > it's >> > squalor. >> > > >> > > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There >> were >> > 100 of us >> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. >> > > >> > > >> > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the >> UK >> > > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare > at >> > you as >> > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> > intimidating. >> > > >> > > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we >> were >> > queueing >> > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other > every >> > now and >> > > then. >> > > >> > > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all > the >> > Coke >> > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " >> > > >> > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were >> > helpful. >> > > >> > > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They >> would >> > offer us >> > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for > their >> > families. >> > > >> > > >> > > New Orleans remains under water >> > > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, >> > there are >> > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when >> we >> > did >> > > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " >> > > >> > > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little >> > kids in that >> > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three >> > babies being >> > > born. >> > > >> > > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as >> > much help as >> > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " >> > > >> > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography >> > studies in >> > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined > with >> > other >> > > travellers in the superdome to survive. >> > > >> > > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone > and >> > everyone, >> > > most people just wanted to survive. >> > > >> > > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because > none >> > of us knew >> > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken > away >> > by the army >> > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. >> > > >> > > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the > whole >> > time. In >> > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. >> > > >> > > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight >> zone. >> > It was not >> > > a week - just a strange time in my life. " >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > To send an email to - >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 except the dead ones Lynda <lurine Sep 4, 2005 10:10 PM Re: Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina Excuse me, that isn't correct. Everyone got to leave. There are no folks still in the Astrodome. Lynda - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:59 PM Re: Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > i'm with you in this anna... > they got to leave > everyone else > guess wot > they got NOTHING > > > snakewoman327 <annacblaine > Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM > > Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got " stared at? " Deal with it. > > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of " racial threatening " cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example. > > -Anna > > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: >> " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were >> 100 of us >> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. " >> Whatever the level it aint right. >> >> The Valley Vegan..... >> >> >> snakewoman327 <annacblaine@h...> wrote: >> " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you >> as >> though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> intimidating. " >> >> Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure >> getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched. >> >> -Anna >> >> >> >> >> , peter hurd wrote: >> > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial >> harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic >> when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt >> getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing >> to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house? >> > >> > The Valley Vegan........... >> > >> > Jo Cwazy wrote: >> > >> > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal >> > >> > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport >> > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have >> spoken of their >> > " horrendous " experiences. >> > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, >> intimidation, and >> > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days. >> > >> > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young >> and elderly. >> > >> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with >> her >> > sister Rebecca, 20, said: " I can't express how bad it was. " >> > >> > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and >> > Mississippi. >> > >> > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> toilets, >> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor >> > >> > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome >> > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are >> heading >> > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have >> been in New >> > Orleans when the storm hit. >> > >> > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was >> travelling with >> > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but >> who now >> > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull. >> > >> > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and >> arrived in New >> > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that >> compulsory >> > evacuation had been ordered. >> > >> > >> > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home >> > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: " We went to our > hotel >> reception >> > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'. " >> > >> > " We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. >> But they'd >> > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the >> tourists >> > or put it out on the news. >> > >> > " Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless >> rescue van and >> > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up >> and got in >> > on the Sunday afternoon. " >> > >> > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of >> us >> > knew what we were in for >> > >> > Swansea student Charlotte Scott >> > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the >> battery ran >> > out and could not contact them again until Thursday. >> > >> > Ms Wheeldon called conditions " disgusting, " with just eight >> toilets for at >> > least 20,000 people. >> > >> > " Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous. >> > >> > 'Threatened racially' >> > >> > " There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the >> toilets, >> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's >> squalor. >> > >> > " We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were >> 100 of us >> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially. >> > >> > >> > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK >> > " You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at >> you as >> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so >> intimidating. >> > >> > " On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were >> queueing >> > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every >> now and >> > then. >> > >> > " Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the >> Coke >> > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on. " >> > >> > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were >> helpful. >> > >> > " We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would >> offer us >> > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their >> families. >> > >> > >> > New Orleans remains under water >> > " There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, >> there are >> > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we >> did >> > because I dread to think what it would be like now. " >> > >> > She added: " It's heartbreaking because there are so many little >> kids in that >> > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three >> babies being >> > born. >> > >> > " The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as >> much help as >> > possible otherwise they are not going to make it. " >> > >> > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography >> studies in >> > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with >> other >> > travellers in the superdome to survive. >> > >> > She said: " Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and >> everyone, >> > most people just wanted to survive. >> > >> > " Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none >> of us knew >> > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away >> by the army >> > and others were getting angry and gnarled up. >> > >> > " The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole >> time. In >> > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there. >> > >> > " It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. >> It was not >> > a week - just a strange time in my life. " >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To send an email to - >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Welllll, technically, if they were Christians then they believe they did get to leave. Lynda - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Monday, September 05, 2005 9:11 AM Re: Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina > except the dead ones > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I totally agree with you, it does seem trivial compared to what the local populace are suffering, but in times like that, its not called for or helpful. And yes they obviously were lucky to get out after only four days, and are obviously dealing with it by getting on with their lives. At no point did I say that verbal abuse was as bad as "lynching" or loosing a home or family. I`ve obviously touched a nerve here, so I am backing off big time. Peace & Love The Valley Vegan............snakewoman327 <annacblaine wrote: No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they got "stared at?" Deal with it.I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance of "racial threatening" cited. I can think of way worse things than being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for example.-Anna , peter hurd wrote:> "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially."> Whatever the level it aint right.> > The Valley Vegan.....> > > snakewoman327 wrote:> "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at you > as> though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating."> > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched.> > -Anna> > > > > , peter hurd wrote:> > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get racial > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit ironic > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? Nothing > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white house?> > > > The Valley Vegan...........> > > > Jo Cwazy wrote:> > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal> > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport> > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > spoken of their> > "horrendous" experiences.> > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > intimidation, and> > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days.> > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > and elderly.> > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome with > her> > sister Rebecca, 20, said: "I can't express how bad it was."> > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana and> > Mississippi.> > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets,> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor> > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome> > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > heading> > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > been in New> > Orleans when the storm hit.> > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > travelling with> > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, but > who now> > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull.> > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > arrived in New> > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > compulsory> > evacuation had been ordered.> > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home> > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: "We went to our hotel > reception> > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'."> > > > "We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the area. > But they'd> > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell the > tourists> > or put it out on the news.> > > > "Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > rescue van and> > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > and got in> > on the Sunday afternoon."> > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none of > us> > knew what we were in for> > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott> > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > battery ran> > out and could not contact them again until Thursday.> > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions "disgusting," with just eight > toilets for at> > least 20,000 people.> > > > "Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous.> > > > 'Threatened racially'> > > > "There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > toilets,> > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > squalor.> > > > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > 100 of us> > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially.> > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the UK> > "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you as> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > intimidating.> > > > "On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we were > queueing> > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > now and> > then.> > > > "Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > Coke> > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on."> > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > helpful.> > > > "We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They would > offer us> > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > families.> > > > > > New Orleans remains under water> > "There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > there are> > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when we > did> > because I dread to think what it would be like now."> > > > She added: "It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > kids in that> > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > babies being> > born.> > > > "The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > much help as> > possible otherwise they are not going to make it."> > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > studies in> > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > other> > travellers in the superdome to survive.> > > > She said: "Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > everyone,> > most people just wanted to survive.> > > > "Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of us knew> > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > by the army> > and others were getting angry and gnarled up.> > > > "The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > time. In> > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there.> > > > "It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight zone. > It was not> > a week - just a strange time in my life."> > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I`m with you Jo, it is human nature to talk about bad experiances.....it helps to cope with them, and it isnt against the law to do so ( alledgedly). The Valley Vegan........heartwerk <heartwork wrote: I still think people have a right to talk about their personal experience of events. If the worst affected were the only ones allowed to comment there wouldn't be any comments because the worst affected people are the dead ones.Jo , fraggle wrote:> i'm with you in this anna...> they got to leave> everyone else> guess wot> they got NOTHING> > > snakewoman327 > Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM> > Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina> > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got "stared at?" Deal with it.> > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of "racial threatening" cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example.> > -Anna> > , peter hurd wrote:> > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > > 100 of us> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially."> > Whatever the level it aint right.> > > > The Valley Vegan.....> > > > > > snakewoman327 wrote:> > "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you > > as> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating."> > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched.> > > > -Anna> > > > > > > > > > , peter hurd wrote:> > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial > > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic > > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing > > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house?> > > > > > The Valley Vegan...........> > > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote:> > > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal> > > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport> > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > > spoken of their> > > "horrendous" experiences.> > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > > intimidation, and> > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days.> > > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > > and elderly.> > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with > > her> > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: "I can't express how bad it was."> > > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and> > > Mississippi.> > > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets,> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor> > > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome> > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > > heading> > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > > been in New> > > Orleans when the storm hit.> > > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > > travelling with> > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but > > who now> > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull.> > > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > > arrived in New> > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > > compulsory> > > evacuation had been ordered.> > > > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home> > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: "We went to our > hotel > > reception> > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'."> > > > > > "We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. > > But they'd> > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the > > tourists> > > or put it out on the news.> > > > > > "Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > > rescue van and> > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > > and got in> > > on the Sunday afternoon."> > > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of > > us> > > knew what we were in for> > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott> > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > > battery ran> > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday.> > > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions "disgusting," with just eight > > toilets for at> > > least 20,000 people.> > > > > > "Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous.> > > > > > 'Threatened racially'> > > > > > "There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets,> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > > squalor.> > > > > > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were > > 100 of us> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially.> > > > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK> > > "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > > you as> > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating.> > > > > > "On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were > > queueing> > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > > now and> > > then.> > > > > > "Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > > Coke> > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on."> > > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > > helpful.> > > > > > "We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would > > offer us> > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > > families.> > > > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water> > > "There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > > there are> > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we > > did> > > because I dread to think what it would be like now."> > > > > > She added: "It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > > kids in that> > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > > babies being> > > born.> > > > > > "The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > > much help as> > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it."> > > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > > studies in> > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > > other> > > travellers in the superdome to survive.> > > > > > She said: "Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > > everyone,> > > most people just wanted to survive.> > > > > > "Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > > of us knew> > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > > by the army> > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up.> > > > > > "The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > > time. In> > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there.> > > > > > "It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. > > It was not> > > a week - just a strange time in my life."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 It was a horrible experience for those girls, even if it wasn't as bad as for some other people. Talking about their experience does not take anything away from the bad experience of others. The idea of the article was to let the British public know what had happened to some of their own people - and I think that is a good thing to do. Jo - peter hurd Monday, September 05, 2005 9:52 PM Re: Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina I`m with you Jo, it is human nature to talk about bad experiances.....it helps to cope with them, and it isnt against the law to do so ( alledgedly). The Valley Vegan........heartwerk <heartwork wrote: I still think people have a right to talk about their personal experience of events. If the worst affected were the only ones allowed to comment there wouldn't be any comments because the worst affected people are the dead ones.Jo , fraggle wrote:> i'm with you in this anna...> they got to leave> everyone else> guess wot> they got NOTHING> > > snakewoman327 > Sep 4, 2005 3:37 PM> > Re: Report from Welsh Survivors of Katrina> > No it's not right. But these people are home safe and sound while > others have had their homes, families, and possibly their lives > destroyed, and then they have the nerve to bitch because they > got "stared at?" Deal with it.> > I read this whole article and nowhere was ANY other instance > of "racial threatening" cited. I can think of way worse things than > being stared out. My home destroyed and my family killed, for > example.> > -Anna> > , peter hurd wrote:> > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There were > > 100 of us> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially."> > Whatever the level it aint right.> > > > The Valley Vegan.....> > > > > > snakewoman327 wrote:> > "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > you > > as> > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating."> > > > Oh my god, they actually STARED at you? Poor things. I'm sure > > getting stared at is almost as bad as being lynched.> > > > -Anna> > > > > > > > > > , peter hurd wrote:> > > What is sad that in the middle of all the problems they get > racial > > harrasment as well, I assume for being white?, which is a bit > ironic > > when you hear the likes of Jesse Jackson saying that the aid isnt > > getting through just because the poplation is mostly black? > Nothing > > to do with the bumbling incompitence of the idiot in the white > house?> > > > > > The Valley Vegan...........> > > > > > Jo Cwazy wrote:> > > > > > Welsh survivors' hurricane ordeal> > > > > > Jane Wheeldon runs to greet her mother at Gatwick Airport> > > Survivors from Wales of Hurricane Katrina arriving home have > > spoken of their> > > "horrendous" experiences.> > > Jane Wheeldon, 20, of Carmarthen, described the squalor, > > intimidation, and> > > looting in the New Orleans Superdome where she spent four days.> > > > > > She appealed for aid to be sent out, particularly for the young > > and elderly.> > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott, 19, who was also in the dome > with > > her> > > sister Rebecca, 20, said: "I can't express how bad it was."> > > > > > Thousands are feared dead after the storm devastated Louisiana > and> > > Mississippi.> > > > > > There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets,> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's squalor> > > > > > Jane Wheeldon on conditions in the Superdome> > > About 20 Britons have been evacuated from the Superdome and are > > heading> > > home, but there are fears for another 70 Britons thought to have > > been in New> > > Orleans when the storm hit.> > > > > > Ms Wheeldon, a student at the University of Lancaster, was > > travelling with> > > two friends Sarah Yorston, 21, originally from South Shields, > but > > who now> > > lives in Bath and Zoe Smith, also 21, from Hull.> > > > > > They had been working at a summer camp in New York state, and > > arrived in New> > > Orleans on Saturday, 27 August - only to learn the next day that > > compulsory> > > evacuation had been ordered.> > > > > > > > > Charlotte (L) and Rebecca Scott were among the Britons flown home> > > After arriving at Gatwick Airport, she said: "We went to our > hotel > > reception> > > and asked what to do and they were just, 'Get out of here'."> > > > > > "We went, 'How do we do that?' - because we didn't know the > area. > > But they'd> > > stopped all the transport on Saturday, which they didn't tell > the > > tourists> > > or put it out on the news.> > > > > > "Luckily, the streets were deserted and we found one homeless > > rescue van and> > > they picked us up and took us to the dome and we just queued up > > and got in> > > on the Sunday afternoon."> > > > > > Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > of > > us> > > knew what we were in for> > > > > > Swansea student Charlotte Scott> > > She called her family on her mobile phone from the dome, but the > > battery ran> > > out and could not contact them again until Thursday.> > > > > > Ms Wheeldon called conditions "disgusting," with just eight > > toilets for at> > > least 20,000 people.> > > > > > "Those people should not be in there. It is horrendous.> > > > > > 'Threatened racially'> > > > > > "There's sewerage everywhere, there's no running water for the > > toilets,> > > there's rubbish everywhere. It's disgusting, it really is - it's > > squalor.> > > > > > "We were evacuated on the Wednesday for our own safety. There > were > > 100 of us> > > (foreigners) and we were getting threatened racially.> > > > > > > > > (L - R) Zoe Smith, Sarah Yorkston and Jane Wheeldon back in the > UK> > > "You'd just walk down the corridors and everybody would stare at > > you as> > > though you were completely and utterly different. It was so > > intimidating.> > > > > > "On the first night there were quite a few arrests whilst we > were > > queueing> > > up for our meals. Quite a few people started on each other every > > now and> > > then.> > > > > > "Looting started on the Wednesday night and they smashed all the > > Coke> > > machines and cigarette machines and were selling them on."> > > > > > But while they were intimidated by some people, others were > > helpful.> > > > > > "We met so many people in the dome who were nice to us. They > would > > offer us> > > food when we didn't have any and they had limited food for their > > families.> > > > > > > > > New Orleans remains under water> > > "There are some lovely people in there but, on the other hand, > > there are> > > some horrible people in there. I'm just so glad we got out when > we > > did> > > because I dread to think what it would be like now."> > > > > > She added: "It's heartbreaking because there are so many little > > kids in that> > > place. When we were in the health centre we saw at least three > > babies being> > > born.> > > > > > "The elderly are in there - they are all sick and they need as > > much help as> > > possible otherwise they are not going to make it."> > > > > > Charlotte Scott, from Reading, who will continue her geography > > studies in> > > Swansea later this year, said she and her sister had joined with > > other> > > travellers in the superdome to survive.> > > > > > She said: "Conditions in there were just horrible for anyone and > > everyone,> > > most people just wanted to survive.> > > > > > "Throughout the three days we just grouped together because none > > of us knew> > > what we were in for. I saw a couple of people getting taken away > > by the army> > > and others were getting angry and gnarled up.> > > > > > "The smell was horrendous, you just wanted to throw up the whole > > time. In> > > the toilets, you just couldn't go in there.> > > > > > "It just felt like one long day which was like the twilight > zone. > > It was not> > > a week - just a strange time in my life."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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