Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 50% chance of it not being successful !!!!! - What happens to the person if it is not a success ????? Jo US plans first face transplant The procedure would take about 10 hours US surgeons are to interview a shortlist of patients hoping to be the first to receive a face transplant. Doctors in the US have already carried out the procedure on bodies donated for medical research. Now the Cleveland Clinic team will choose a patient whose face is disfigured to receive a " new " face from a dead donor. The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed safety and ethical concerns about the procedure. A new face The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look at the issue earlier this year. Also, it is not known how well an individual and their loved ones would adapt psychologically to a completely new face. There are a great many questions to which answers are needed Changing Faces charity It is hard to predict what the person would look like after a face transplant. The procedure would involve taking skin and underlying tissues from a dead donor and placing them on the living recipient. Computer modelling suggests the new face would neither resemble the donor nor recipient's pre-injury self. The face should take on more of the characteristics of the skeleton of the recipient than the soft tissues of the donor. The recipient should be able to eat, drink and communicate again through a wide variety of facial expressions and mannerisms. Picking a patient The working party said it was not against facial transplants in theory, saying they could offer a major breakthrough in restoration of quality of life to those whose faces have been destroyed by accidents or disease. You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar Surgeon Maria Siemionow But it cautioned: " Until there is further research and the prospect of better control of these complications, it would be unwise to proceed with human facial transplantation. " After a year of discussions, the Cleveland Clinic won approval to go ahead with the operation from an internal review board, which included surgeons, psychiatrists, social workers, therapists, nurses and patient advocates. Surgeon Maria Siemionow and her team will interview five men and seven women as potential candidates for the 8-10 hour operation. Dr Siemionow told Associated Press: " You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar. " Yet they will have to have enough healthy skin for traditional grafts in case the transplant fails. They will be told that their face would be removed and replaced with one from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin colour. Charity Changing Faces said: " There are a great many questions to which answers are needed before this extremely risky and experimental surgery could be considered a viable option for patients with severe facial disfigurements. " It is our view that today's excellent conventional surgery combined with the very best psychological and social rehabilitation programmes can very effectively enable patients with severe disfigurements to live full and active lives. " The continuing speculation about face transplants is not helpful for people with disfigurements. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 hi jo, I saw this really bad movie once with john travolta called face off or face line or something like that, about switching faces. anyway, to have a face walking around from someone who used to be DEAD is just CREEPY!!!! - anouk - heartwerk 9/20/2005 2:40:52 AM Face Transplant 50% chance of it not being successful !!!!! - What happens to the person if it is not a success ?????JoUS plans first face transplant The procedure would take about 10 hours US surgeons are to interview a shortlist of patients hoping to be the first to receive a face transplant. Doctors in the US have already carried out the procedure on bodies donated for medical research. Now the Cleveland Clinic team will choose a patient whose face is disfigured to receive a "new" face from a dead donor. The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed safety and ethical concerns about the procedure. A new face The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look at the issue earlier this year. Also, it is not known how well an individual and their loved ones would adapt psychologically to a completely new face. There are a great many questions to which answers are needed Changing Faces charity It is hard to predict what the person would look like after a face transplant. The procedure would involve taking skin and underlying tissues from a dead donor and placing them on the living recipient. Computer modelling suggests the new face would neither resemble the donor nor recipient's pre-injury self. The face should take on more of the characteristics of the skeleton of the recipient than the soft tissues of the donor. The recipient should be able to eat, drink and communicate again through a wide variety of facial expressions and mannerisms. Picking a patient The working party said it was not against facial transplants in theory, saying they could offer a major breakthrough in restoration of quality of life to those whose faces have been destroyed by accidents or disease. You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar Surgeon Maria Siemionow But it cautioned: "Until there is further research and the prospect of better control of these complications, it would be unwise to proceed with human facial transplantation." After a year of discussions, the Cleveland Clinic won approval to go ahead with the operation from an internal review board, which included surgeons, psychiatrists, social workers, therapists, nurses and patient advocates. Surgeon Maria Siemionow and her team will interview five men and seven women as potential candidates for the 8-10 hour operation. Dr Siemionow told Associated Press: "You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar." Yet they will have to have enough healthy skin for traditional grafts in case the transplant fails. They will be told that their face would be removed and replaced with one from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin colour. Charity Changing Faces said: "There are a great many questions to which answers are needed before this extremely risky and experimental surgery could be considered a viable option for patients with severe facial disfigurements. "It is our view that today's excellent conventional surgery combined with the very best psychological and social rehabilitation programmes can very effectively enable patients with severe disfigurements to live full and active lives. "The continuing speculation about face transplants is not helpful for people with disfigurements." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Interesting that the person would look totally different. It's my understanding that the skin comforms to the bones, and tissue under it. heartwerk <heartwork wrote: 50% chance of it not being successful !!!!! - What happens to the person if it is not a success ?????JoUS plans first face transplant The procedure would take about 10 hours US surgeons are to interview a shortlist of patients hoping to be the first to receive a face transplant. Doctors in the US have already carried out the procedure on bodies donated for medical research. Now the Cleveland Clinic team will choose a patient whose face is disfigured to receive a "new" face from a dead donor. The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed safety and ethical concerns about the procedure. A new face The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look at the issue earlier this year. Also, it is not known how well an individual and their loved ones would adapt psychologically to a completely new face. There are a great many questions to which answers are needed Changing Faces charity It is hard to predict what the person would look like after a face transplant. The procedure would involve taking skin and underlying tissues from a dead donor and placing them on the living recipient. Computer modelling suggests the new face would neither resemble the donor nor recipient's pre-injury self. The face should take on more of the characteristics of the skeleton of the recipient than the soft tissues of the donor. The recipient should be able to eat, drink and communicate again through a wide variety of facial expressions and mannerisms. Picking a patient The working party said it was not against facial transplants in theory, saying they could offer a major breakthrough in restoration of quality of life to those whose faces have been destroyed by accidents or disease. You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar Surgeon Maria Siemionow But it cautioned: "Until there is further research and the prospect of better control of these complications, it would be unwise to proceed with human facial transplantation." After a year of discussions, the Cleveland Clinic won approval to go ahead with the operation from an internal review board, which included surgeons, psychiatrists, social workers, therapists, nurses and patient advocates. Surgeon Maria Siemionow and her team will interview five men and seven women as potential candidates for the 8-10 hour operation. Dr Siemionow told Associated Press: "You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar." Yet they will have to have enough healthy skin for traditional grafts in case the transplant fails. They will be told that their face would be removed and replaced with one from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin colour. Charity Changing Faces said: "There are a great many questions to which answers are needed before this extremely risky and experimental surgery could be considered a viable option for patients with severe facial disfigurements. "It is our view that today's excellent conventional surgery combined with the very best psychological and social rehabilitation programmes can very effectively enable patients with severe disfigurements to live full and active lives. "The continuing speculation about face transplants is not helpful for people with disfigurements." To send an email to - Jonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hi Jonnie I thought that too. Surely what you look like depends on the bones and muscles supporting the skin. Jo - Jonnie Hellens Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:12 PM Re: Face Transplant Interesting that the person would look totally different. It's my understanding that the skin comforms to the bones, and tissue under it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 It is creepy - but I suppose very tempting for someone with a badly disfigured face. With only a 50% chance of it working I wonder what happens to the person if it doesn't. No face! Do they die - what??? Jo , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > hi jo, > I saw this really bad movie once with > john travolta called face off or face line or something like that, about switching faces. > > anyway, to have a face walking around from someone who used to be DEAD is just CREEPY!!!! > > - anouk > > - > heartwerk > > 9/20/2005 2:40:52 AM > Face Transplant > > > 50% chance of it not being successful !!!!! - What happens to the > person if it is not a success ????? > > Jo > > US plans first face transplant > > The procedure would take about 10 hours > US surgeons are to interview a shortlist of patients hoping to be the > first to receive a face transplant. > Doctors in the US have already carried out the procedure on bodies > donated for medical research. > > Now the Cleveland Clinic team will choose a patient whose face is > disfigured to receive a " new " face from a dead donor. > > The chance it will work is around 50% and experts have expressed > safety and ethical concerns about the procedure. > > A new face > > The recipient would have to take powerful anti-rejection drugs for > life, which carry considerable long-term health risks, says the Royal > College of Surgeons of England, which formed a working party to look > at the issue earlier this year. > > Also, it is not known how well an individual and their loved ones > would adapt psychologically to a completely new face. > > There are a great many questions to which answers are needed > > Changing Faces charity > > It is hard to predict what the person would look like after a face > transplant. > > The procedure would involve taking skin and underlying tissues from a > dead donor and placing them on the living recipient. > > Computer modelling suggests the new face would neither resemble the > donor nor recipient's pre-injury self. > > The face should take on more of the characteristics of the skeleton > of the recipient than the soft tissues of the donor. > > The recipient should be able to eat, drink and communicate again > through a wide variety of facial expressions and mannerisms. > > Picking a patient > > The working party said it was not against facial transplants in > theory, saying they could offer a major breakthrough in restoration > of quality of life to those whose faces have been destroyed by > accidents or disease. > > You want to choose patients who are really disfigured, not someone > who has a little scar > > Surgeon Maria Siemionow > > But it cautioned: " Until there is further research and the prospect > of better control of these complications, it would be unwise to > proceed with human facial transplantation. " > > After a year of discussions, the Cleveland Clinic won approval to go > ahead with the operation from an internal review board, which > included surgeons, psychiatrists, social workers, therapists, nurses > and patient advocates. > > Surgeon Maria Siemionow and her team will interview five men and > seven women as potential candidates for the 8-10 hour operation. > > Dr Siemionow told Associated Press: " You want to choose patients who > are really disfigured, not someone who has a little scar. " > > Yet they will have to have enough healthy skin for traditional grafts > in case the transplant fails. > > They will be told that their face would be removed and replaced with > one from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin > colour. > > Charity Changing Faces said: " There are a great many questions to > which answers are needed before this extremely risky and experimental > surgery could be considered a viable option for patients with severe > facial disfigurements. > > " It is our view that today's excellent conventional surgery combined > with the very best psychological and social rehabilitation programmes > can very effectively enable patients with severe disfigurements to > live full and active lives. > > " The continuing speculation about face transplants is not helpful for > people with disfigurements. " > > > > To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I liked that movie! And your right, it was creepy! It was Face Off. Nikki , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > hi jo, > I saw this really bad movie once with > john travolta called face off or face line or something like that, about switching faces. > > anyway, to have a face walking around from someone who used to be DEAD is just CREEPY!!!! > > - anouk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Travolta's character was really creepy!earthstrm <nikkimack wrote: I liked that movie! And your right, it was creepy!It was Face Off.Nikki , "zurumato@e..." <zurumato@e...> wrote:> hi jo, > I saw this really bad movie once with > john travolta called face off or face line or something like that, about switching faces. > > anyway, to have a face walking around from someone who used to be DEAD is just CREEPY!!!!> > - anoukJonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 The movie, in istelf wasn't bad, its just that the third time him and nicholas cages exchanged faces, the line of believability was being streatched just a little tooo far. (at least for me.) -anouk - Jonnie Hellens 9/21/2005 5:21:34 PM Re: Re: Face Transplant Travolta's character was really creepy!earthstrm <nikkimack wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Definately! Though the other did have his moments too! (cannot remember his name) Nikki , Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens> wrote: > Travolta's character was really creepy! > > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:I liked that movie! And your right, it was creepy! > > It was Face Off. > > Nikki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 They only exchanged twice. Once in the beginning so Travolta could be Cage and once at the end to switch back. Nikki , " zurumato@e... " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > The movie, in istelf wasn't bad, its just that the third time him and nicholas cages exchanged > faces, the line of believability was being streatched just a little tooo far. (at least for me.) > > -anouk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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