now if we could just prove those fish are terrorists

[Guest guest]

from the SF chronicle

White House Proposes New Overfishing Rules

By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer

 

Monday, September 19, 2005

 

 

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(09-19) 17:23 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

 

 

The Bush administration proposed new guidelines Monday that it said would

prevent overfishing, part of a plan for managing the nation's marine resources.

 

 

Critics say they ignore important recommendations from a presidential

commission.

 

 

Tougher fines and penalties, more peer-reviewed science studies and market-based

decisions are other measures that will " help us toward ending overfishing and

rebuilding our fish stocks, " said Jim Connaughton, chairman of the White House

Council on Environmental Quality.

 

 

The bill describes how to reauthorize the 1976 Magnuson-Stevens Act, which

governs the nation's ocean fisheries. Its authorization expired after 1999,

though its provisions remain in effect. Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, led the last

reauthorization in 1996.

 

 

The legislation would guide local and regional fishery councils.

 

 

Steve Murawski, chief science adviser to the Commerce Department's National

Marine Fisheries Service, said the administration didn't back the U.S.

Commission on Ocean Policy's recommendation that a group of scientists suggest

the total number of allowable catches each year because " it would have

Balkanized the process. "

 

 

Murawski said the administration recognizes that good fishery management is

based on peer-reviewed science, and that the government should help fishermen

make better business decisions through the use of fishing quotas.

 

 

" In many cases they do not make market decisions that are in their own best

interests and the long-term interests of the country because of this race to

compete with each other, " he said. " This 'survival of the fittest' — it

generates a lot of conservation issues. "

 

 

Advocacy groups such as Natural Resources Defense Council quickly denounced the

bill, saying it revokes the requirement to rebuild an overfished species within

10 years and allows overfishing on some species to continue for years before

legal protections kick in.

 

 

NRDC said the bill also would undermine public participation by closing off

meetings and comment periods to citizens, and require only that the amount of

bycatch — fish caught unintentionally — be reported " to the extent

practicable. "

 

 

The Marine Fish Conservation Network, another advocacy group, said the

administration would be " turning back the clock on ocean protections by at least

a decade. "

 

 

The presidential commission that reported on ocean policy a year ago after 2 1/2

years of study had no comment Monday on the administration's proposals.

 

 

In a statement two weeks ago, the commission said that any reauthorization of

the law must include a shift toward ecosystem-based management, a stronger

scientific process, broader public participation and adequate funding to support

fishery management and recovery.

 

 

I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do

something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the

something that I can do.

[Guest guest]

Like those idiots are going to do anything to stop overfishing! They have

killed the Klamath River. They have shut down the fisheries that were

working to save endangered and threatened species and are giving money to

fish farms that adversly impact the environment. Big money so people can

kill rivers so they can farm in the desert.

 

This admin has absolutely no heart or brain and is driven by one thing and

one thing only GREED!

 

Lynda

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

<lettuceheads >; <TFHB >;

 

Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:40 PM

now if we could just prove those fish are terrorists

 

 

> from the SF chronicle

> White House Proposes New Overfishing Rules

> By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer

>

> Monday, September 19, 2005

>

>

> Printable Version

> Email This Article

>

>

>

>

> (09-19) 17:23 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

>

>

> The Bush administration proposed new guidelines Monday that it said would

> prevent overfishing, part of a plan for managing the nation's marine

> resources.

>

>

> Critics say they ignore important recommendations from a presidential

> commission.

>

>

> Tougher fines and penalties, more peer-reviewed science studies and

> market-based decisions are other measures that will " help us toward ending

> overfishing and rebuilding our fish stocks, " said Jim Connaughton,

> chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality.

>

>

> The bill describes how to reauthorize the 1976 Magnuson-Stevens Act, which

> governs the nation's ocean fisheries. Its authorization expired after

> 1999, though its provisions remain in effect. Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska,

> led the last reauthorization in 1996.

>

>

> The legislation would guide local and regional fishery councils.

>

>

> Steve Murawski, chief science adviser to the Commerce Department's

> National Marine Fisheries Service, said the administration didn't back the

> U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy's recommendation that a group of

> scientists suggest the total number of allowable catches each year because

> " it would have Balkanized the process. "

>

>

> Murawski said the administration recognizes that good fishery management

> is based on peer-reviewed science, and that the government should help

> fishermen make better business decisions through the use of fishing

> quotas.

>

>

> " In many cases they do not make market decisions that are in their own

> best interests and the long-term interests of the country because of this

> race to compete with each other, " he said. " This 'survival of the fittest'

> â? " it generates a lot of conservation issues. "

>

>

> Advocacy groups such as Natural Resources Defense Council quickly

> denounced the bill, saying it revokes the requirement to rebuild an

> overfished species within 10 years and allows overfishing on some species

> to continue for years before legal protections kick in.

>

>

> NRDC said the bill also would undermine public participation by closing

> off meetings and comment periods to citizens, and require only that the

> amount of bycatch â? " fish caught unintentionally â? " be reported " to the

> extent practicable. "

>

>

> The Marine Fish Conservation Network, another advocacy group, said the

> administration would be " turning back the clock on ocean protections by at

> least a decade. "

>

>

> The presidential commission that reported on ocean policy a year ago after

> 2 1/2 years of study had no comment Monday on the administration's

> proposals.

>

>

> In a statement two weeks ago, the commission said that any reauthorization

> of the law must include a shift toward ecosystem-based management, a

> stronger scientific process, broader public participation and adequate

> funding to support fishery management and recovery.

>

>

> I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still

> do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do

> the something that I can do.

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

now now lynda..lets be fair

they are also motivated by religious fervor and a hunger for power..

 

 

Lynda <lurine

Sep 20, 2005 5:31 PM

 

Re: now if we could just prove those fish are terrorists

 

Like those idiots are going to do anything to stop overfishing! They have

killed the Klamath River. They have shut down the fisheries that were

working to save endangered and threatened species and are giving money to

fish farms that adversly impact the environment. Big money so people can

kill rivers so they can farm in the desert.

 

This admin has absolutely no heart or brain and is driven by one thing and

one thing only GREED!

 

Lynda

 

I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do

something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the

something that I can do.

[Guest guest]

Bush is about as religious as that big bent dead Doug fir in my front yard!

And so are Rove, Cheney, Rummy and the rest of the Neocons!

 

It is only the fools that buy what they are selling that are motivated by

religion OR their excuse for religion.

 

Can you image what Jesus would have to say to them? Talk about kicking the

money folks out of the temples!

 

Lynda

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:28 PM

Re: now if we could just prove those fish are

terrorists

 

 

>

> now now lynda..lets be fair

> they are also motivated by religious fervor and a hunger for power..

>

>

> Lynda <lurine

> Sep 20, 2005 5:31 PM

>

> Re: now if we could just prove those fish are

> terrorists

>

> Like those idiots are going to do anything to stop overfishing! They have

> killed the Klamath River. They have shut down the fisheries that were

> working to save endangered and threatened species and are giving money to

> fish farms that adversly impact the environment. Big money so people can

> kill rivers so they can farm in the desert.

>

> This admin has absolutely no heart or brain and is driven by one thing and

> one thing only GREED!

>

> Lynda

>

> I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still

> do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do

> the something that I can do.

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>