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US army plans to bulk-buy anthrax

24 September 2005

David Hambling

Magazine issue 2518

The controversial move is likely to raise questions over US

commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological

weapons

THE US military wants to buy large quantities of anthrax, in a

controversial move that is likely to raise questions over its

commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological

weapons.

 

A series of contracts have been uncovered that relate to the US

army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. They ask companies to tender

for the production of bulk quantities of a non-virulent strain of

anthrax, and for equipment to produce significant volumes of other

biological agents. Issued earlier this year, the contracts were

discovered by Edward Hammond, director of the Sunshine Project, a US-

German organisation that campaigns against the use of biological and

chemical weapons.

 

One " biological services " contract specifies: " The company must have

the ability and be willing to grow Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain

at 1500-litre quantities. " Other contracts are for fermentation

equipment for producing 3000-litre batches of an unspecified

biological agent, and sheep carcasses to ...

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725184.800

 

 

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Nice to see your tax dollars not going to waste. Fancy a trip t Guinard Island?

This link will cheer you up................not

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hmmm... wonder what they could possibly use that for?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

US army plans to bulk-buy anthrax24 September 2005 David Hambling Magazine issue 2518 The controversial move is likely to raise questions over US commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weaponsTHE US military wants to buy large quantities of anthrax, in a controversial move that is likely to raise questions over its commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weapons. A series of contracts have been uncovered that relate to the US army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. They ask companies to tender for the production of bulk quantities of a non-virulent strain of anthrax, and for equipment to produce significant volumes of other biological agents. Issued earlier this year, the contracts were discovered by Edward Hammond, director of the Sunshine Project, a

US-German organisation that campaigns against the use of biological and chemical weapons. One "biological services" contract specifies: "The company must havethe ability and be willing to grow Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain at 1500-litre quantities." Other contracts are for fermentation equipment for producing 3000-litre batches of an unspecified biological agent, and sheep carcasses to ...http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725184.800I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.Jonnie

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besides sending tainted letters to democrats and biological warfare?

mayhaps there's a hidden market for anthrax ripple cream chocolates we didn't know about Jonnie Hellens Sep 23, 2005 3:51 PM Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

hmmm... wonder what they could possibly use that for?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: US army plans to bulk-buy anthrax24 September 2005 David Hambling Magazine issue 2518 The controversial move is likely to raise questions over US commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weaponsTHE US military wants to buy large quantities of anthrax, in a controversial move that is likely to raise questions over its commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weapons. A series of contracts have been uncovered that relate to the US army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. They ask companies to tender for the production of bulk quantities of a non-virulent strain of anthrax, and for equipment to produce significant volumes of other biological agents. Issued earlier this year, the contracts were discovered by Edward Hammond, director of the Sunshine Project, a US-German organisation that campaigns against the use of biological and chemical weapons. One "biological services" contract specifies: "The company must havethe ability and be willing to grow Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain at 1500-litre quantities." Other contracts are for fermentation equipment for producing 3000-litre batches of an unspecified biological agent, and sheep carcasses to ...http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725184.800I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.

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Yeah, and when biological warfare is used, you can control exactly who receives it, civilians will not be harmed in any way, right?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

besides sending tainted letters to democrats and biological warfare?

mayhaps there's a hidden market for anthrax ripple cream chocolates we didn't know about Jonnie Hellens Sep 23, 2005 3:51 PM Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

hmmm... wonder what they could possibly use that for?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: US army plans to bulk-buy anthrax24 September 2005 David Hambling Magazine issue 2518 The controversial move is likely to raise questions over US commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weaponsTHE US military wants to buy large quantities of anthrax, in a controversial move that is likely to raise questions over its commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weapons. A series of contracts have been uncovered that relate to the US army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. They ask companies to tender for the production of bulk quantities of a non-virulent strain of anthrax, and for equipment to produce significant volumes of other biological agents. Issued earlier this year, the contracts were discovered by Edward Hammond, director of the Sunshine Project, a

US-German organisation that campaigns against the use of biological and chemical weapons. One "biological services" contract specifies: "The company must havethe ability and be willing to grow Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain at 1500-litre quantities." Other contracts are for fermentation equipment for producing 3000-litre batches of an unspecified biological agent, and sheep carcasses to ...http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725184.800I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.

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hey, wots a little collateral damage?

besides all the important people like cheney and ken lay will all already have their vaccinations, so no worries Jonnie Hellens Sep 23, 2005 5:02 PM Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

Yeah, and when biological warfare is used, you can control exactly who receives it, civilians will not be harmed in any way, right?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

besides sending tainted letters to democrats and biological warfare?

mayhaps there's a hidden market for anthrax ripple cream chocolates we didn't know about Jonnie Hellens Sep 23, 2005 3:51 PM Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

hmmm... wonder what they could possibly use that for?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: US army plans to bulk-buy anthrax24 September 2005 David Hambling Magazine issue 2518 The controversial move is likely to raise questions over US commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weaponsTHE US military wants to buy large quantities of anthrax, in a controversial move that is likely to raise questions over its commitment to treaties designed to limit the spread of biological weapons. A series of contracts have been uncovered that relate to the US army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah. They ask companies to tender for the production of bulk quantities of a non-virulent strain of anthrax, and for equipment to produce significant volumes of other biological agents. Issued earlier this year, the contracts were discovered by Edward Hammond, director of the Sunshine Project, a US-German organisation that campaigns against the use of biological and chemical weapons. One "biological services" contract specifies: "The company must havethe ability and be willing to grow Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain at 1500-litre quantities." Other contracts are for fermentation equipment for producing 3000-litre batches of an unspecified biological agent, and sheep carcasses to ...http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725184.800I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can still do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.

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marie antoinette was one of the first

ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

experimental back then. while her father inlawr

Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

 

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> On the subject of epidemics.............

>

> Mid 1300s

>

> Mongol tartars, sieging the port city of Feodosia (then Kaffa) on

the Black Sea, finally broke the three-year siege by catapulting

plague-infested cadavers over the walls of the city.

>

> The city fell from plague in 1346 and it was suspected that escaping

residents of the city introduces plague into Italy, initiating the

pandemic (the Black Death) that decimated the European populace

between 1348 and 1350.

>

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I never knew that.

 

Jo

 

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:05 AM

Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

 

 

> marie antoinette was one of the first

> ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

> experimental back then. while her father inlawr

> Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

>

>

> , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> > On the subject of epidemics.............

> >

> > Mid 1300s

> >

> > Mongol tartars, sieging the port city of Feodosia (then Kaffa) on

> the Black Sea, finally broke the three-year siege by catapulting

> plague-infested cadavers over the walls of the city.

> >

> > The city fell from plague in 1346 and it was suspected that escaping

> residents of the city introduces plague into Italy, initiating the

> pandemic (the Black Death) that decimated the European populace

> between 1348 and 1350.

> >

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grandfather in law actually...

louis the xv father had died before marie came on the scene

 

tho..didn't know about her being vaccinated

edward jenner is usually accredited with being the inventor of the smallpox

vaccine around 1800

but a mathematician/geographer named La Condamine pushed it a few years

earlier..ok..more like 30 years earlier....i don't think he actually figured out

how to innoculate anyone tho

 

marie couldn't have been vaccinated by edward jenner, as she was already dead

hmmmm

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Sep 24, 2005 12:05 AM

 

Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

 

marie antoinette was one of the first

ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

experimental back then. while her father inlawr

Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

 

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> On the subject of epidemics.............

>

> Mid 1300s

>

> Mongol tartars, sieging the port city of Feodosia (then Kaffa) on

the Black Sea, finally broke the three-year siege by catapulting

plague-infested cadavers over the walls of the city.

>

> The city fell from plague in 1346 and it was suspected that escaping

residents of the city introduces plague into Italy, initiating the

pandemic (the Black Death) that decimated the European populace

between 1348 and 1350.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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of course fine is a relative term

surviving smallpox just to have yer head lopped off..hmmm..how great of a trade

is that?

 

 

Jo Cwazy <heartwork

Sep 24, 2005 11:39 AM

 

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I never knew that.

 

Jo

 

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:05 AM

Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

 

 

> marie antoinette was one of the first

> ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

> experimental back then. while her father inlawr

> Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

>

>

> , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> > On the subject of epidemics.............

> >

> > Mid 1300s

> >

> > Mongol tartars, sieging the port city of Feodosia (then Kaffa) on

> the Black Sea, finally broke the three-year siege by catapulting

> plague-infested cadavers over the walls of the city.

> >

> > The city fell from plague in 1346 and it was suspected that escaping

> residents of the city introduces plague into Italy, initiating the

> pandemic (the Black Death) that decimated the European populace

> between 1348 and 1350.

> >

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does nothing escape you?

 

your right. It was her father in law Louis XV, died in may 10 1774.

 

I have read two, marie antoinete biographis on my bookshelf and

got my info mixed up. The one by antonia fraser is the better one.

 

It was her Husband king louis XVI, who decided to get inoculated

against smallpox.

I am looking at page 63, the book marie antoinette by evelyne

lever,says that

this procedure was experimentall, not always succesful and sometimes

ended in tragic consequences, considered extremely dangerous.

 

the public thought he was mad for doing this.

decided to do it seeing the success of the Boston army being

inoculated using the cowpox method in 1720.

 

mary antoinette had actually had smallpox when she was two, and

recovered so was naturally immuned by it.

 

The french were way ahead of their time in this aspect. perhaps a

little too fond of

the guillotine.

 

Edward Jenner, observing the success of milkmaids, naturally immuned

by cowpox. develope the vaccine, I believe 1796/7 ? but the idea was

already known/accepted in france earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> grandfather in law actually...

> louis the xv father had died before marie came on the scene

>

> tho..didn't know about her being vaccinated

> edward jenner is usually accredited with being the inventor of the

smallpox vaccine around 1800

> but a mathematician/geographer named La Condamine pushed it a few

years earlier..ok..more like 30 years earlier....i don't think he

actually figured out how to innoculate anyone tho

>

> marie couldn't have been vaccinated by edward jenner, as she was

 

 

 

 

 

already dead

> hmmmm

>

>

> Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...>

> Sep 24, 2005 12:05 AM

>

> Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

>

> marie antoinette was one of the first

> ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

> experimental back then. while her father inlawr

> Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

>

>

>

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hi fraggle,

 

don't think I'm weird, but I once

researched what it would be like to be guillotined

and the history of it, the last one being done in the 30's in france.

 

I once read that a persons brain is alive for exactly

one to three minutes after being chopped off.

In essence

meaning, that those that had thier head paraded in front

of the crowd, got to see people cheer

about their own head being cut off.

 

a scientist once, guillotined a criminal, stared at the head and the

head blinked back

at him and attempted to speak.

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> of course fine is a relative term

> surviving smallpox just to have yer head lopped off..hmmm..how great

of a trade is that?

>

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Whew, that would be a long min or few!Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

hi fraggle,don't think I'm weird, but I once researched what it would be like to be guillotinedand the history of it, the last one being done in the 30's in france. I once read that a persons brain is alive for exactlyone to three minutes after being chopped off. In essencemeaning, that those that had thier head paraded in frontof the crowd, got to see people cheer about their own head being cut off.a scientist once, guillotined a criminal, stared at the head and thehead blinked back at him and attempted to speak. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:> of course fine is a relative term> surviving smallpox just to have yer head lopped off..hmmm..how greatof a trade is that?> To send an email to - Jonnie

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i'm sure lotsa things escape me

:)

 

i'll be honest..i read about La Condamine and vaccinations literally about a

month ago, so it was pretty fresh in my noggin

 

as for marie and louis...wot can i say...history buff.....

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Sep 24, 2005 9:49 PM

 

Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

 

does nothing escape you?

 

your right. It was her father in law Louis XV, died in may 10 1774.

 

I have read two, marie antoinete biographis on my bookshelf and

got my info mixed up. The one by antonia fraser is the better one.

 

It was her Husband king louis XVI, who decided to get inoculated

against smallpox.

I am looking at page 63, the book marie antoinette by evelyne

lever,says that

this procedure was experimentall, not always succesful and sometimes

ended in tragic consequences, considered extremely dangerous.

 

the public thought he was mad for doing this.

decided to do it seeing the success of the Boston army being

inoculated using the cowpox method in 1720.

 

mary antoinette had actually had smallpox when she was two, and

recovered so was naturally immuned by it.

 

The french were way ahead of their time in this aspect. perhaps a

little too fond of

the guillotine.

 

Edward Jenner, observing the success of milkmaids, naturally immuned

by cowpox. develope the vaccine, I believe 1796/7 ? but the idea was

already known/accepted in france earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> grandfather in law actually...

> louis the xv father had died before marie came on the scene

>

> tho..didn't know about her being vaccinated

> edward jenner is usually accredited with being the inventor of the

smallpox vaccine around 1800

> but a mathematician/geographer named La Condamine pushed it a few

years earlier..ok..more like 30 years earlier....i don't think he

actually figured out how to innoculate anyone tho

>

> marie couldn't have been vaccinated by edward jenner, as she was

 

 

 

 

 

already dead

> hmmmm

>

>

> Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...>

> Sep 24, 2005 12:05 AM

>

> Re: do as we say not as we do..anthrax

>

> marie antoinette was one of the first

> ones to try out the smallpox vaccine,

> experimental back then. while her father inlawr

> Louis was dying, she fine and never got it.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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