First Gigs...

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I agree that Ozzy sounds better, but then again technology has moved on a lot since his early days!

I cant imagine Plant ever reaching the same notes he did when he was younger, but then neither can most people his age. His vice still sounds unmistakeable though, same as Ozzy.

 

The Valley Vegan...............Lynda <lurine wrote:

Yes, Ozzy is better. He used to sound like he had a mouth full of mush! Heard Plant live not to long ago and the whole thing sounded bad, so it could have been the place.Lynda- "heartwerk" Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:25 PM Re: First Gigs...> Dio still sings the same as ever - he must be about 63 now. Rob> Halford did opt out of a couple of the high screams last time we saw> him, but he does a lot heavier music/singing now. Bruce Dickinson is> the same as ever. Robert Plant - still good. Ozzy is better now than> he was when younger - he can actually sing quite well now.>> There are so many good singers in rock/metal now it is hard to say who> is best, but I think James

LaBrie probably. Hopefully his voice will> stay good.>> Jo

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Also kids today dont always catch either! I wouldnt stage dive for all the nuts in Brazil.

Yes you are old, but I do like it when you go off at a tangent, please dont stop, my mind is constantly off.....................

 

The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

hehoff on a slight tangent herei was just complainin the other day how "kids today can't stage dive"hahahahahhathey tend to either clip you at shoulder level er dive into a spot with no people...kids today!hee hee hee..makes me sound sooo old!dang kids.....why back in my day.......heartwerk Oct 18, 2005 11:43 PM Subject: Re: First Gigs...I think he was injured by the foot of a crowd surfer.Jo , fraggle wrote:>> metal pits always were more violent then punk pits.....> different style of dancing....> When they kick out your front doorHow you gonna come?With your hands on your headOr on the trigger of your

gunWhen the law break inHow you gonna go?Shot down on the pavementOr waiting on death row

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Hi Peter

 

That's right - very memorable.

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > That's the one :-) That was the first Metallica one I heard live - I

> > didn't stop grinning for a week.

>

> Ah yes... at the Freddie Mercury Tribute IIRC! :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

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Hi Peter

 

> Blackmore is now well immersed into " Blackmore's Night " , the

folk-with-a-hint-of-rock group with his partner, Candice Night. I

think they are exceptionally good folk music, but have to be in the

right mood to listen to it.

 

Candice Night has a lovely voice.

 

> And I'll give a virtual vegan chocolate cake to anyone who can tell

me the name of the group that Blackmore and Page *both* played in, at

different times, before they were famous! And as a clue, Mick Abrahams

of Jethro Tull fame, and Albert Lee also played guitar in the same

group... all before they were well known!!!!

 

I think I know but I'll wait before I say anything :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

>

> BB

> Peter

>

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Hi Peter

 

That's encouraging - thanks :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > LOL - I do try not to look stupid when I go to concerts - just wear a

> > band t-shirt - always black of course. If I was young I would

> > probably wear the goth gear, or some of it - but would look daft

nowadays.

>

> I dunno... there's some goths in Bristol in their 50s... it's a slightly

> different style, but the art seems to be in just doing goth things that

> don't make you look as though you think you're in your 20s. It works

well

> for them!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

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What's a horlick?peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Well said Jo, age shouldnt be a barrier to anything. Well maybe hairstyles ( blue rinse anyone? or has it fallen out already?), oh and hip hop - not recomended to spin on your head with curviture of the spine, oh and entering best smiles competition - dentures sometimes slip out at the most inconvenient time!

 

Sorry Welsh sense of humour, must be getting near my bed time now, wheres my bed pan and my horlicks?

 

The Valley Vegan............

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Well, both did tons of session work in the early sixties, and no doubt crossed paths on several occassions. The Crusaders?Screaming Lord Such`s heavy friends?( with keith moon,)?

Hey Jo, do you remember Just Like Eddie by Heinz? Richie did that one apparently?

 

The Valley Vegan............heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi Peter> Blackmore is now well immersed into "Blackmore's Night", thefolk-with-a-hint-of-rock group with his partner, Candice Night. Ithink they are exceptionally good folk music, but have to be in theright mood to listen to it. Candice Night has a lovely voice.> And I'll give a virtual vegan chocolate cake to anyone who can tellme the name of the group that Blackmore and Page *both* played in, atdifferent times, before they were famous! And as a clue, Mick Abrahamsof Jethro Tull fame, and Albert Lee also played guitar in the samegroup... all before they were well known!!!!I think I know but I'll wait before I say anything :-)BBJo> > BB> Peter>

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I concur - awesome list Peter!

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> > Are there any good guitarists out there anymore in bands? Seems

they are all 3 chord wonders. The only one I can think of that

> > can make a guitar " sing " is Lang.

>

> Hmmmm, let me think...

>

> John Petrucci (Dream Theater)

> Al Pitrelli (Savatage)

> Alan Morse (Spocks Beard)

> Trey Azagthoth (Jo - what's that band's name... I've gone blank!!!)

> Luca Turilli (Rhapsody)

> Jacob Kjaer (Royal Hunt)

> James Murphy (too many bands to name)

> Alex Skolnick (Testament / Savatage)

> Craig Goldy (Dio)

> Viv Campbell (Def Leppard)

> Chris Caffrey (Savatage)

> Vinnie Burns

> Chris France (Ten)

> Timo Tolkki (Stratovarius)

> Michael Romeo (Symphony X)

> Ralph Santolla (Millenium)

> Matthias Lange (Metallium)

> Yngwie Malmsteen

> Chris Impelliterri

> Joe Satriani

> Steve Vai

> KK Downing (Judas Priest)

> Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society)

> Michael Amott (Arch Enemy)

>

> And that's just off the top of my head... if I was to really think

about it, I'm sure I could come up with another 100 or so.

>

> BB

> Peter

>

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Horlicks is a a bedtime drink.

 

Jo

 

, Jonnie Hellens

<jonnie_hellens> wrote:

>

> What's a horlick?

>

> peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:Well said Jo, age shouldnt be a

barrier to anything. Well maybe hairstyles ( blue rinse anyone? or has

it fallen out already?), oh and hip hop - not recomended to spin on

your head with curviture of the spine, oh and entering best smiles

competition - dentures sometimes slip out at the most inconvenient time!

>

> Sorry Welsh sense of humour, must be getting near my bed time now,

wheres my bed pan and my horlicks?

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

>

>

>

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>

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Hi Peter

 

I do remember - I used to like it.

 

Jo

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Well, both did tons of session work in the early sixties, and no

doubt crossed paths on several occassions. The Crusaders?Screaming

Lord Such`s heavy friends?( with keith moon,)?

> Hey Jo, do you remember Just Like Eddie by Heinz? Richie did that

one apparently?

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Hi Peter

>

> > Blackmore is now well immersed into " Blackmore's Night " , the

> folk-with-a-hint-of-rock group with his partner, Candice Night. I

> think they are exceptionally good folk music, but have to be in the

> right mood to listen to it.

>

> Candice Night has a lovely voice.

>

> > And I'll give a virtual vegan chocolate cake to anyone who can tell

> me the name of the group that Blackmore and Page *both* played in, at

> different times, before they were famous! And as a clue, Mick Abrahams

> of Jethro Tull fame, and Albert Lee also played guitar in the same

> group... all before they were well known!!!!

>

> I think I know but I'll wait before I say anything :-)

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> >

> > BB

> > Peter

> >

>

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Oh thats leading me on that is, what a great pun.

 

The Valley Vegan................

( The answer I believe would be - Just about anything you pay her for! )Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

 

What's a horlick?peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

Well said Jo, age shouldnt be a barrier to anything. Well maybe hairstyles ( blue rinse anyone? or has it fallen out already?), oh and hip hop - not recomended to spin on your head with curviture of the spine, oh and entering best smiles competition - dentures sometimes slip out at the most inconvenient time!

 

Sorry Welsh sense of humour, must be getting near my bed time now, wheres my bed pan and my horlicks?

 

The Valley Vegan............

 

 

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Johnny Cash, 1954 to 2003, 49 years <g>

 

Jerry Lee Lewis

 

Little Richard

 

Bo Diddley

 

Chuck Berry

 

I do believe they are called the Class of '54.

 

Lynda

 

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Peter

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:26 AM

Re: Re: First Gigs...

 

Hi Peter

 

> By the way the reference was to his old band Elf, which I assumed was his own piss take on his height.

 

It was partly because of Ronnie, and partly because of his cousin, who was also a member, and also of similar height... they were originally called "The Electric Elves", but changed their name in about 1972 before recording their first album... some 14 years after the first album Dio recorded with The Vegas Kings. Amazing to think that he's been active on the music scene for 47 years... I bet not many people can match that!

 

BB

Peter

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holy bacchus am i gettin these messages all out of order

 

anyways..mama jo, i didn't say yer kids were strange(tho..now that i

think about it, peter is strange....but fer other reasons..)(hee hee...)

i said it was weird....

in my lil world, parents and their teen age spawn don't go to shows..

thats all i was commenting on....

i just never really thought about it...my father and his welp..going to

a dead kennedys show in 1983...it just doesn't make any sense to me..

thats all jo...

i am certainly not picckin on you er how yer family is raised er

anything remotely like that

i was just commenting how it was hard fer me to comprehend it

everyones different..............

 

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying

my kids

> are strange.

>

> Jo

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

Maybe because it was just me and my Dad from early on, but I never

minded being with him either.

 

Though I definately could not see him wanting to go to a rock

concert with me. Even though he could have just turned the hearing

aid off at anytime.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> Maybe it was a lack of confidence on your part. I never minded

going out

> with my parents, neither did my brother. Peter did loads of other

stuff

> with friends, as did we, so why not enjoy concerts together if you

like the

> same things?

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

 

> P.S. I loved Spinal Tap

 

I still love Spinal Tap!!!

 

Nikki

[Guest guest]

Well, Jo, my kidlets don't think your kids are strange.

 

I'd say it was something in the water down there but I was raised in the Bay

Area and we all went to concerts and stuff with our parents and the kidlets

with us, so go figure. Maybe it is the generation that is living there now.

 

I know it isn't the homeschooling families I know cause they are all still

doing stuff together even four generations!

 

Lynda

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" jo " <jo.heartwork

 

 

> I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying my

> kids

> are strange.

>

> Jo

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what did you think about his mtv show,

I saw a few episodes last year or so

and I thought it was too ostentatious.

but then again, his lyfestile isn't any

differrent from people with his kind of money.

 

 

, " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

>

> Yes, Ozzy is better. He used to sound like he had a mouth full of mush!

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I don't think so,

but it was wonderful,

their music was very impressive

and I usually not a metal fan.

 

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Was that the time they did stuff with an orchestra?

>

> The Valley Vegan..........

>

>

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I didn't particularly care for it. I don't particularly care for his wife

and the kids are a bit on the obnoxious side and dogs pooping all over the

house is just too much. Thought I did think throwing the ham at the

neighbor was a hoot!

 

Lynda

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:56 PM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> what did you think about his mtv show,

> I saw a few episodes last year or so

> and I thought it was too ostentatious.

> but then again, his lyfestile isn't any

> differrent from people with his kind of money.

>

>

> , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

>>

>> Yes, Ozzy is better. He used to sound like he had a mouth full of mush!

>

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Hi Fraggle

 

I know you didn't say 'Jo's kids are stange' in those words, but you

laughed and said you thought it weird and no way would you do that -

which by implication means 'jo's kids are strange'. That's what peer

pressure is really. Now maybe you didn't mean it like that and you

know I like you anyway - but ......

 

BB

Jo

 

, " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> holy bacchus am i gettin these messages all out of order

>

> anyways..mama jo, i didn't say yer kids were strange(tho..now that

i

> think about it, peter is strange....but fer other reasons..)(hee

hee...)

> i said it was weird....

> in my lil world, parents and their teen age spawn don't go to

shows..

> thats all i was commenting on....

> i just never really thought about it...my father and his

welp..going to

> a dead kennedys show in 1983...it just doesn't make any sense to

me..

> thats all jo...

> i am certainly not picckin on you er how yer family is raised er

> anything remotely like that

> i was just commenting how it was hard fer me to comprehend it

> everyones different..............

>

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> >

> > I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people

saying

> my kids

> > are strange.

> >

> > Jo

> >

>

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Hi Nikki

 

I guess our family just all like the same kind of music, so therefore

it would be natural to go together - it would seem very strange if we

all went to the same concert but not together- a little mad, in

fact. Colin and I do everything together, so we do go to concerts

because one of us likes the band - and usually both end up enjoying

it a lot anyway. Peter goes to concerts he likes whether we go or

not.

 

Jo

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> Maybe because it was just me and my Dad from early on, but I never

> minded being with him either.

>

> Though I definately could not see him wanting to go to a rock

> concert with me. Even though he could have just turned the hearing

> aid off at anytime.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Maybe it was a lack of confidence on your part. I never minded

> going out

> > with my parents, neither did my brother. Peter did loads of

other

> stuff

> > with friends, as did we, so why not enjoy concerts together if

you

> like the

> > same things?

> >

> > Jo

>

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That would have been before they used an orchestra. Pity they changed

their style and are such rubbish now.

 

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

>

> I don't think so,

> but it was wonderful,

> their music was very impressive

> and I usually not a metal fan.

>

>

> , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> >

> > Was that the time they did stuff with an orchestra?

> >

> > The Valley Vegan..........

> >

> >

>

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Hi Peter

 

I wasn't big into Sabbath after Ozzy left either.

 

Nikki

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Sorry Jo , but after they kicked out Ozzy, brought in dwarfs etc to

replace him, they just didnt do it for me, mind you as I said

previously my musical tastes changed a lot around that time anyhoo.

>

> The Valley Vegan............

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

I think that it is more of an image thing. He doesn't want to be

seen with his Father at that age in public.

 

It may be a cultural thing because it is like that here in the US

for most teens.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> Sorry Fraggle - I'm finding this hard to understand (I'm not just

> being argumentative). Would yo find it horrifying now (assuming it

> was a band you liked)?

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

> Yes it would be the same one - I missed him on your list. I think

> Ozzy, for all his faults, never has a bad guitarist. One of my

> favourite solos is Crazy Train.

 

I agree with both!

 

BB

Nikki