Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Last Updated: Thursday, 20 October 2005, 11:18 GMT 12:18 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version 'Burger bill' passed by US House People who get fat cannot blame food sellers, says the House The US House of Representatives has passed a bill aimed at making it harder for people to sue the food industry for causing obesity. Lawmakers voted 306-120 in favour of the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act - or the " cheeseburger bill " , as it has been nicknamed. The bill, which has still to go before the Senate, follows a series of legal actions against fast-food companies. A spokesman for the firms welcomed the move to outlaw such cases. Scott Vinson of the National Council of Chain Restaurants praised the House for " denouncing frivolous obesity lawsuits brought by plaintiffs seeking to blame restaurants for making them overweight " . The council represents brands including McDonald's, Burger King, KFC and Pizza Hut. Indulgence The Republican chairman of the House judiciary committee, James Sensenbrenner, said fast-food retailers were not to blame for Americans' over-indulgence. " It is not the place of the law to protect them from their own excess, " he said, adding that anyone suffering from obesity should go to a doctor, not a lawyer. The bill's opponents included California Democrat Bob Filner, who said the fast-food industry marketed fatty food to children and should take responsibility. Other critics said the bill was unnecessary, since such cases were generally thrown out by the courts. The legislation will not ban cases involving negligence, such as those stemming from tainted food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Congress Passes Pro-Gun Legislation The House of Representatives has handed the gun industry a major victory. On Thursday, lawmakers voted to protect firearms manufacturers and dealers from liability lawsuits. The bill now goes to President Bush, who has promised to sign it. The Republican-led measure passed with significant Democratic support. The gun liability bill is the number one legislative priority of the National Rifle Association and it has been for years. NRA President Wayne LaPierre called it a " historic piece of legislation. " The NRA exploited the aftermath of Katrina to promote the legislation. A recent statement on the NRA website said, " What we've seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves. " The bill is aimed at killing lawsuits seeking to hold gun manufacturers and dealers liable for crimes committed with weapons they sold. The chief House sponsor of the bill, Florida Republican Cliff Stearns, said the bill received a boost when Pentagon officials said they supported it as a way to ensure a reliable supply of American-made weapons to the military. This bill is part of a push by Republicans to attack tort law that allows corporations to be sued over the impact of their products. On Wednesday, the House passed the so-called " cheeseburger bill, " which protects the restaurant industry from health-related lawsuits. jo <jo.heartwork Oct 21, 2005 9:23 AM Burger Bill Last Updated: Thursday, 20 October 2005, 11:18 GMT 12:18 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version 'Burger bill' passed by US House People who get fat cannot blame food sellers, says the House The US House of Representatives has passed a bill aimed at making it harder for people to sue the food industry for causing obesity. Lawmakers voted 306-120 in favour of the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act - or the " cheeseburger bill " , as it has been nicknamed. The bill, which has still to go before the Senate, follows a series of legal actions against fast-food companies. A spokesman for the firms welcomed the move to outlaw such cases. Scott Vinson of the National Council of Chain Restaurants praised the House for " denouncing frivolous obesity lawsuits brought by plaintiffs seeking to blame restaurants for making them overweight " . The council represents brands including McDonald's, Burger King, KFC and Pizza Hut. Indulgence The Republican chairman of the House judiciary committee, James Sensenbrenner, said fast-food retailers were not to blame for Americans' over-indulgence. " It is not the place of the law to protect them from their own excess, " he said, adding that anyone suffering from obesity should go to a doctor, not a lawyer. The bill's opponents included California Democrat Bob Filner, who said the fast-food industry marketed fatty food to children and should take responsibility. Other critics said the bill was unnecessary, since such cases were generally thrown out by the courts. The legislation will not ban cases involving negligence, such as those stemming from tainted food. To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 well I think that people should take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a hamburger in their mouth. , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > Last Updated: Thursday, 20 October 2005, 11:18 GMT 12:18 UK > > E-mail this to a friend Printable version > > 'Burger bill' passed by US House > > People who get fat cannot blame food sellers, says the House Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 imo yes and no we live in a society constantly bombarded with propaganda ppl, especially children, see upteen ga-zillion ads with happy smiling ppl crunchin away on anti-biotic laced dead flesh..eveyone is smiling, has friends, is happy, all the families are together jumping about hard to resist such temptation...espcially when its always there..in front of you..over and over and over again... Anouk Sickler <zurumato Oct 21, 2005 10:36 AM Re: Burger Bill well I think that people should take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a hamburger in their mouth. --- When they kick out your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting on death row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I know what you mean, Mcdonald's is in kindergarten classes, before children can even can think for themselves. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > imo > yes and no > > we live in a society constantly bombarded with propaganda > ppl, especially children, see upteen ga-zillion ads with happy smiling ppl crunchin away on anti-biotic laced dead flesh..eveyone is smiling, has friends, is happy, all the families are together jumping about > hard to resist such temptation...espcially when its always there..in front of you..over and over and over again... > > > > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> > Oct 21, 2005 10:36 AM > > Re: Burger Bill > > well I think that people should > take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a > hamburger in their mouth. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Does anyone else ever watch Donnie Deautch's show? Well, if you really want to see S-T-U-P-I-D people, I mean really stupid people, you should see the interview he did with that sorry excuse for a rock guitarist (spell that noise maker) Ted Nugent! Geez Louise, he is the epitimy of everything that is wrong with the U.S.! Guns, Guns, Guns. Are you ready for this one? I mean, seriously, you need to sit down. This guy actually believes what he says and he makes me wonder how we allow people like him to wander around without a keeper! And I am serious, he said that if hunters didn't shoot deer that deer would kill us! He actually asked Donnie Deautch " do you know how many of your neighbor's have been killed by deer? " Well, I know how many of my DRUNK neighbors have been killed because they were drunk and speeding and hit a deer and then ran off the road and killed themselves. And I do know that every once in awhile some idiot tries to walk up to a buck in rut and gets gored but hey, things happen to stupid people! And old bucky the beaver's wife is just as stupid as he is. According to her the reason everyone's cholesterol is so high is that they don't go out and kill their own meat! It is buying food in grocery stores, all those packaged vegetables that are killing them! We sat there in stunned silence listening to this guy who swears he's never taken any drugs and never drank while he talked nine hundred miles to the minute like a burned out speed freak and only made sense about half the time and the rest of the time he sounded down right paranoid! AND, terror warning. All you U.S. residents! HE IS GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR! When are we going to move to Canada?????? Lynda - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Friday, October 21, 2005 11:08 AM Re: Burger Bill >I know what you mean, > > Mcdonald's is in kindergarten classes, > before children can even can think for themselves. > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: >> >> >> imo >> yes and no >> >> we live in a society constantly bombarded with propaganda >> ppl, especially children, see upteen ga-zillion ads with happy > smiling ppl crunchin away on anti-biotic laced dead flesh..eveyone is > smiling, has friends, is happy, all the families are together jumping > about >> hard to resist such temptation...espcially when its always there..in > front of you..over and over and over again... >> >> >> >> Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> >> Oct 21, 2005 10:36 AM >> >> Re: Burger Bill >> >> well I think that people should >> take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a >> hamburger in their mouth. >> >> > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I do agree Anouk but think that some people don't seem to have the brain power to read up on good nutrition and health - and the burgers are so cheap ..... Jo , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > > well I think that people should > take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a > hamburger in their mouth. > > > > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > > > Last Updated: Thursday, 20 October 2005, 11:18 GMT 12:18 UK > > > > E-mail this to a friend Printable version > > > > 'Burger bill' passed by US House > > > > People who get fat cannot blame food sellers, says the House > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I started listening to an interview with him once - turned off after about five minutes - he is a weirdo. Jo , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > Does anyone else ever watch Donnie Deautch's show? > > Well, if you really want to see S-T-U-P-I-D people, I mean really stupid > people, you should see the interview he did with that sorry excuse for a > rock guitarist (spell that noise maker) Ted Nugent! Geez Louise, he is the > epitimy of everything that is wrong with the U.S.! Guns, Guns, Guns. > > Are you ready for this one? I mean, seriously, you need to sit down. This > guy actually believes what he says and he makes me wonder how we allow > people like him to wander around without a keeper! And I am serious, he > said that if hunters didn't shoot deer that deer would kill us! He actually > asked Donnie Deautch " do you know how many of your neighbor's have been > killed by deer? " > > Well, I know how many of my DRUNK neighbors have been killed because they > were drunk and speeding and hit a deer and then ran off the road and killed > themselves. And I do know that every once in awhile some idiot tries to > walk up to a buck in rut and gets gored but hey, things happen to stupid > people! > > And old bucky the beaver's wife is just as stupid as he is. According to > her the reason everyone's cholesterol is so high is that they don't go out > and kill their own meat! It is buying food in grocery stores, all those > packaged vegetables that are killing them! > > We sat there in stunned silence listening to this guy who swears he's never > taken any drugs and never drank while he talked nine hundred miles to the > minute like a burned out speed freak and only made sense about half the time > and the rest of the time he sounded down right paranoid! > > AND, terror warning. All you U.S. residents! > > HE IS GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR! > > When are we going to move to Canada?????? > > Lynda > - > " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> > > Friday, October 21, 2005 11:08 AM > Re: Burger Bill > > > >I know what you mean, > > > > Mcdonald's is in kindergarten classes, > > before children can even can think for themselves. > > > > > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> imo > >> yes and no > >> > >> we live in a society constantly bombarded with propaganda > >> ppl, especially children, see upteen ga-zillion ads with happy > > smiling ppl crunchin away on anti-biotic laced dead flesh..eveyone is > > smiling, has friends, is happy, all the families are together jumping > > about > >> hard to resist such temptation...espcially when its always there..in > > front of you..over and over and over again... > >> > >> > >> > >> Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> > >> Oct 21, 2005 10:36 AM > >> > >> Re: Burger Bill > >> > >> well I think that people should > >> take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a > >> hamburger in their mouth. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 I agree with some and understand what you are saying Fraggle, but I think Anouk is right. It boils down to you and the decision you make. It's about the same as drugs and gangs, it's here being pushed at you left and right, but you are the one who ultimately decides. Part of it too is awareness. There are plenty of ads like you say, not enough ads for our side. Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > imo > yes and no > > we live in a society constantly bombarded with propaganda > ppl, especially children, see upteen ga-zillion ads with happy smiling ppl crunchin away on anti-biotic laced dead flesh..eveyone is smiling, has friends, is happy, all the families are together jumping about > hard to resist such temptation...espcially when its always there..in front of you..over and over and over again... > > > > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> > Oct 21, 2005 10:36 AM > > Re: Burger Bill > > well I think that people should > take personal responsibility for buyin and putting a > hamburger in their mouth. > > > > --- > > When they kick out your front door > How you gonna come? > With your hands on your head > Or on the trigger of your gun > > When the law break in > How you gonna go? > Shot down on the pavement > Or waiting on death row > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Huh! So are they gonna legalize drugs?jo <jo.heartwork wrote: "It is not the place of the law to protect them from their ownexcess," he said, adding that anyone suffering from obesity should go to adoctor, not a lawyer. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hi Jonnie I'm sure there was a money consideration somewhere. BBJo - Jonnie Hellens Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:29 PM Re: Re: Burger Bill I agree. I have to wonder about how this came to be decided though. Was money a great influence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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