Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 If you don't hear back from me I will be in the same place as Gary. I want to try it. I think that small amount will be safe. Donna Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:44:43 Re: Tansy As noted, not to be used by someone who is pregnant. Eating a lot, frequently or using a concentrated extract or oil may very well be bad depending upon the concentration of thujone or the amount you take. I doubt 1.5 tsp of leaves distributed in 3 dozen cookies is going to be a problem. I'm 55. If you don't hear from me in a couple of weeks, don't eat it. ;<) Even Rodale's talks about using the leaves for seasoning. It is supposed to have a peppery flavor although I didn't really notice that much in my cookies. I have noticed that some books and sources err on the side of caution. I'm not advocating its use but I grow it and have eaten it. Gary P.S. I have about 40 books specifically on herbs and their uses, culinary, medicinal, etc on my shelves at home. I'm not a trained herbalist but I do read a lot. There's probably more thujone in the bottles of absinthe on my shelves. --- genny_y2k <genny_y2k (AT) (DOT) <genny_y2k%40> com> wrote: > My reference book 'Vitamins, Minerals and > Supplements', gives the folowing advice. " > Tansy is a powerful herb that should be > avoided or used 'only'under strict medical > supervision. " It also states that Tansy > stimulates uterine contractions and should be > avoided by pregnant women, children and people > over the age of 55. Toxicity : rating > is " dangerous " . > Deanna in Colorado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 My reference book 'Vitamins, Minerals and Supplements', gives the folowing advice. " Tansy is a powerful herb that should be avoided or used 'only'under strict medical supervision. " It also states that Tansy stimulates uterine contractions and should be avoided by pregnant women, children and people over the age of 55. Toxicity : rating is " dangerous " . Deanna in Colorado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 As noted, not to be used by someone who is pregnant. Eating a lot, frequently or using a concentrated extract or oil may very well be bad depending upon the concentration of thujone or the amount you take. I doubt 1.5 tsp of leaves distributed in 3 dozen cookies is going to be a problem. I'm 55. If you don't hear from me in a couple of weeks, don't eat it. ;<) Even Rodale's talks about using the leaves for seasoning. It is supposed to have a peppery flavor although I didn't really notice that much in my cookies. I have noticed that some books and sources err on the side of caution. I'm not advocating its use but I grow it and have eaten it. Gary P.S. I have about 40 books specifically on herbs and their uses, culinary, medicinal, etc on my shelves at home. I'm not a trained herbalist but I do read a lot. There's probably more thujone in the bottles of absinthe on my shelves. --- genny_y2k <genny_y2k wrote: > My reference book 'Vitamins, Minerals and > Supplements', gives the folowing advice. " > Tansy is a powerful herb that should be > avoided or used 'only'under strict medical > supervision. " It also states that Tansy > stimulates uterine contractions and should be > avoided by pregnant women, children and people > over the age of 55. Toxicity : rating > is " dangerous " . > Deanna in Colorado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Gary I guess you like to live dangerously. I am not an expert on tansy. I used to make comfrey leaf kitcheree by putting about 4 cups of leaves in with 2 gallons of water and other ingredients. It never seemed to bother me. Now everyone says not to eat it. Now I make kitcheree out of other leaves though. GB , Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > As noted, not to be used by someone who is > pregnant. Eating a lot, frequently or using > a concentrated extract or oil may very well > be bad depending upon the concentration of > thujone or the amount you take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Well, due to possible issues with liver toxicity I might not eat a lot of comfrey either. I do have recipes for it too but probably will just use it externally although comfrey pumpkin tart or comfrey quiche do sound interesting. I think the problems associated with it also have other factors involved, such as age, health, quantities used and the plant or parts of the plant used. From what I've read the pyrrolizidine alkaloids levels vary from plant to plant but are more concentrated in the root. Hm, I wonder how accurate this quote is, " As far as the bad things about comfrey (aside from it's invasiveness), it's thought to cause liver problems and cancer of the liver if more than 4% of you diet is made up of it over a long period of time. This, of course, may vary for each individual. " http://www.northerngarden.ca/ResultList.asp?strArticleID=136 I also saw this, " However, some researches have shown that comfrey contains substances that may cause liver damage if used in large quantities and over a long period of time. Even though this research has been challenged in some circles as being faulty and inconclusive, even so their consumption in the form of food or herbal medicine is not recommended until the matter is investigated more and proper scientific conclusions have been drawn. " http://www.healthrecipes.com/comfrey.htm So, again, I wouldn't advocate its use but low amounts, infrequently, for those who don't already have liver problems may not be a big issue. I was amazed by its healing properties externally on shallow wounds from personal experience. I grow Comfrey (Symphytum officinale L.) and Russian Comfrey (Symphytum x uplandicum) Yes, I live dangerously. I drive an automobile, live in a fairly urban area and use many electronic devices that emit radiation. ;<) Unfortunately there is little doubt of the issue, I will die (but hopefully not for a while). Gary --- Guru K <greatyoga wrote: > Gary > > I guess you like to live dangerously. I am not > an expert on tansy. I used to make comfrey leaf > kitcheree by putting about 4 cups of leaves in > with 2 gallons of water and other ingredients. > It never seemed to bother me. Now everyone says > not to eat it. Now I make kitcheree out of other > leaves though. > > GB > > , Gary > Mattingly > <gsmattingly wrote: > > > > As noted, not to be used by someone who is > > pregnant. Eating a lot, frequently or using > > a concentrated extract or oil may very well > > be bad depending upon the concentration of > > thujone or the amount you take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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