Getting Started

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome!~

 

If I were starting here now, I'd go back to February, and just start

reading forward, in threaded mode. If the thread interests you, just

keep reading, if not, skip to next thread (for instance, there were

long threads about clothes washing, and animal foods: you may or may

not be interested in those topics.)

 

see the file over on rawschool about how to search for info.

 

you might try the files section over on 's Rawschool - we can

post files over there, whereas we can't here..

 

http://health.Rawschool/messages

 

 

there's one called reading resources, which will get you a good start.

 

some other comments interspersed below..

 

 

 

rawfood , " magicalhp " <magicalhp> wrote:

>

> Hi, I'm about to get started on a raw diet and am in the process of

> researching what to

> eat. Are there any good resources that not only provide recipes but

> also provide

> information on how much of what we need each day?

 

there's a few recipes over on rawschool group...

as far as how much of what - concentrate upon eating " enough " calories

from fruits and vegetables, with a few calories from nuts and seeds.

see below about sweet fruits as a base... I personally use bananas and

fresh dates (date sources also listed over on RawSchool...)

 

you want to start dramatically INCREASING the amount of raw foods,

especially fruits and vegetables into your diet, and *decreasing* the

amount of cooked foods. Not knowing you and your individual

personality, it's hard to say exactly, and there are at least two

different approaches to get into it:

 

1. The gradual, transitioning approach - just start replacing cooked

with raw...results are slower, and transition may be easier..; if

eating meat/animal products now, suggest eliminating those first. Big

bang for the buck here....

 

2. Just jump right in and go for all raw:

 

a. some start with a short, 3-5 day, all water fast....gives the

body a chance to rest and begin cleaning house...;

b. just start eating all raw foods.

 

If doing that, here's a reminder post from Elchanan earlier on this

board:

 

[ " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo

Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:36 pm

[Raw Food] Succeeding with RF -- vs. Failing by Craving

elchananpc

oringinally posted on RawFood

Just taking a moment to remind everyone, particularly those new to the

group, that if you build around a base of bananas, you will ALWAYS have

fruit available, you will always have enough calories/fuel (once you learn

to eat enough of them), and you will always feel physically satisfied.

Your

energy and moods will stabilize at least somewhat, your blood sugar level

and hormonal production will rapidly normalize, etc. Add whatever other

fruits you wish and a nice pile of greens, and you're on your way.

But for most people, having a foundation of one or two foods that are

almost

always available and that can truly account for the majority of all

calories

consumed is a big help. Honest injun, I'm not monkeyin' around!

Best to all,

Elchanan

----

Bob]

also see Nora's site, rawschool.com for some more info here...

Are there any

> books/articles etc.

> that include a day-by-day food plan kinda thing?

both books by the Diamonds, Fit for Life and Living Health have two

weeks plans; you can find them on Amazon.com, used, for almost nothing

- literally. library will probably have them also.

I don't know a lot

> about food and

> was never into cooking so every bit of advice offered would be

> greatly appreciated.

the good news is that you don't have to cook anything - just eat it as

Nature provided.

the basics in a nutshell: Whole, Raw, Fresh, Ripe, organic or better

fruits, vegetables and a few nuts and seeds.

>

> Also, I know some raw foodists are sort of anti-vitamin. But do any

> of you take

> vitamin/mineral supplements and can you recommend any?

no..don't take any (may consider B-12 in the future). We don't need

them: Nature provides everything we need in at least sufficiency, and

normally abundance.

Inorganic vitamins/minerals, meaning ones that have not come to us via

the plant kingdom, are not useable by the body: so vitamin supplements

only support the vitamin industry: THEY DO US NO GOOD!, and are, in

face, harmful to us! If we eat foods that are Whole, Raw, Fresh,

Ripe, organic or better, we get all the vitamins and minerals we need,

in just the right mixes, including many " undiscovered " elements.

I really don't

> want to

> become deficient in anything.

you won't; as a matter of face, you'll probably get way more than

you're getting now.

(Probably already am and I'd like to

> reverse that.)

>

> Many thanks!

>

> p.s. My sister has indicated she may try a raw diet too...any info

> will be passed along

> to her - I hope she does it!

This covers some of the " mechanical " aspects of what to eat. Pay

attention to your mind chatter: we've all had billions of dollars of

marketing aimed at us to get us to think certain ways.

have fun...enjoy the journey!

all the best,

Bob

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

 

I would recommend the writings of Dr. Ann Wigmore. I have my own reasons for

partiality. She is one of the mothers of the modern raw movement. I work at

an Institute that she set up in the tropics and where she retired to, to do

most of her writing.

 

I like the fact that she strove for balanced nutrition, proper food

combining, simplicity, and working with nature. It was also very important

to her that it be economical and not dependent on buying alot gadgets and

gear. There are other " gurus " of the raw food movement who are into refined

chemical supplements and special gear, but I am a big believer that when you

take natural enzymes and molecules from plants and concentrate them

thousands of times stronger than they could ever be found in nature that you

are on the road to really screwing something up.

 

If you clean up your colon so that you actually have the ability to absorb

the vitamins and minerals that nature provides, and balance out your

pro-biotic (vitamin-producing) bacteria in your GI with live ferment foods

such rejuvelac and veggie kraut, and eat well-balanced and properly combined

meals than you would stand much less of a chance of deficiency than most

people on the Standard American Diet (SAD).

 

There are many fine institutions that you can teach how to do all of this

well, including the one I work at. We do a two week complete Living Foods

Lifestyle Education Program that teaches you how to do all of the basics on

your own. Plus, you can spend your first two weeks detoxing on a beautiful

sunny beach in the Caribbean, getting massages and colonics between classes.

Travel is cheap to get here from New York, but there are also many fine

Living Foods schools and Institutes all around the states. I am sure that

you can find one near you, if travel is an issue.

 

I hope this helps.

 

All the best,

Tom Spontelli

Teacher

Ann Wigmore Institute

 

annwigmore.org

[Guest guest]

Did you look in the kids recipe folder?

The sandwich and wraps folder has a lot of good ones for kids too. Do not force

vegetarian food on the 15 year old, offer side dishesn, meatless spaghetti,

enchiladas, pizza, etc. This is a very stubborn age half way between feeling

like an adult and they are set in their ways at times. My one nephew became

vegetarian at 17 and vegan at 21. His cholesterol was very high and he wanted

to make changes. This was a triple burger on a bun kid.

What js good for us isn't always good for others unless they think so on their

own.

Donna

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" lynnree11 " <lynnree11

 

Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:42:28

 

Getting Started

 

 

What is the best way to adopt a vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are 10

and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

potatoes and anti-vegetable.

[Guest guest]

What is the best way to adopt a vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are 10

and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

potatoes and anti-vegetable.

[Guest guest]

We started eating vegan meals in April.

 

I just make a vegan meal each night. I tell my 15 yr old that if she

wants to eat it, that's fine. But, if not, she can prepare something

else for herself. I keep some frozen precooked foods, and some

canned/boxed foods, that are easy for her to make. 90% of the time,

she eats the vegetarian meal that I make. The other 10%, she makes

herself something. But, I don't do separate meals.

 

She also fixes her own breakfast of cereal or yogurt or rice cake with

peanut butter, and she gets school lunch. So, the only meat she gets

is the 10% she has here, and her school lunch. But, even at school,

she doesn't always get the meat.

 

Maryann

 

, " lynnree11 " <lynnree11

wrote:

>

> What is the best way to adopt a vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are

10

> and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

> year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

> potatoes and anti-vegetable.

>

[Guest guest]

just start preparing vegetarian dishes alongside your usual stuff. work it in.

ask the 15 yo what veggies s/he is willing to try and/or try new veggies/new

recipes with familiar veggies. Good luck!

 

lynnree11 <lynnree11 wrote: What is the best way to adopt a

vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are 10

and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

potatoes and anti-vegetable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beth

“The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many kids

have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts in

Boston.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

There are a whole raft of recipes in the folders on the main group page.

Just go to the page, click on file on the upper left hand side, and click on

recipes.

 

Marilyn Daub

mcdaub

Vanceburg, KY

My Cats Knead Me!!

-

Beth Renzetti

Friday, September 21, 2007 1:00 PM

Re: Getting Started

 

 

just start preparing vegetarian dishes alongside your usual stuff. work

it in. ask the 15 yo what veggies s/he is willing to try and/or try new

veggies/new recipes with familiar veggies. Good luck!

 

lynnree11 <lynnree11 wrote: What is the best way to

adopt a vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are 10

and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

potatoes and anti-vegetable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beth

" The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many

kids have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference. "

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts

in Boston.

 

 

 

 

Building a website is a piece of cake.

Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

 

[Guest guest]

I should have answered this earlier. I've got a 16 year old who still eats

meat at school and at his friends houses and his sister's house. But at

home, the only time meat is cooked is for Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner

because I do the dinner for our little family. He happily eats all the

vegetarian stuff I make and doesn't even think about it not being vegetarian

anymore. We use the soy crumbles to make anything we made with ground beef

and he loves it all. And when Morningstar Farms came out with the steak

strips and chicken strips, I made fajitas out of one of them and he said,

" Not bad, but I would have rather had " whichever one I didn't use. I asked

him, " You do remember they weren't " real " meat, don't you? " He had

completely forgotten it! It's a lot easier to get them to eat it if you

stick with stuff they like and just use the substitutes in things, at least

it was for me.

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Marilyn Daub

Friday, September 21, 2007 4:49 PM

 

Re: Getting Started

 

 

 

There are a whole raft of recipes in the folders on the main group page.

Just go to the page, click on file on the upper left hand side, and click on

 

recipes.

 

Marilyn Daub

mcdaub (AT) alltel (DOT) <mcdaub%40alltel.net> net

Vanceburg, KY

My Cats Knead Me!!

-

Beth Renzetti

@ <%40>

 

Friday, September 21, 2007 1:00 PM

Re: Getting Started

 

just start preparing vegetarian dishes alongside your usual stuff. work

it in. ask the 15 yo what veggies s/he is willing to try and/or try new

veggies/new recipes with familiar veggies. Good luck!

 

lynnree11 <lynnree11 (AT) (DOT) <lynnree11%40> com> wrote: What

is the best way to

adopt a vegetarian lifestyle? My kids are 10

and 15 and I believe that this would be good for them. I know my 10

year old would go along with me, but the 15 year old is meat and

potatoes and anti-vegetable.

 

Beth

" The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many

kids have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference. "

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts

in Boston.

 

 

Building a website is a piece of cake.

Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.