Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 well..since i went to the SF GreenFest last weekend, thought i'd blather on it a tad.. yeah..i'm allowed to be boring.... anyways it was immensely packed this year..it normally is, but, it seemed even more so this year it takes place in the SF Concourse, which holds something like 10,000 ppl..and i swear, it felt like 3 times that amount... the speakers seemed a bit lacking this year...instead of having them in the back of the auditorium, they actually had to move them outside to a big tent in the parking lot! i only listened to Jim Hightower this year..sittin in one place fer too long drives me batty anyways...most of the other speakers just didn't seem t ohave the caliber of past years lottsa booths and exhibits... and of course, lotsa vegan food up on the mezzanine..... tho..one booth was selling something with honey in it as vegan..tsk tsk... anyways..was there all day, and had a great time cheers fraggle " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwilling victims of the darkness. " William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hi Fraggle That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls. Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London in a few weeks - more nice food :-) Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > well..since i went to the SF GreenFest last weekend, thought i'd blather on it a tad.. > yeah..i'm allowed to be boring.... > > anyways > it was immensely packed this year..it normally is, but, it seemed even more so this year > it takes place in the SF Concourse, which holds something like 10,000 ppl..and i swear, it felt like 3 times that amount... > > the speakers seemed a bit lacking this year...instead of having them in the back of the auditorium, they actually had to move them outside to a big tent in the parking lot! > i only listened to Jim Hightower this year..sittin in one place fer too long drives me batty anyways...most of the other speakers just didn't seem t ohave the caliber of past years > > lottsa booths and exhibits... > and of course, lotsa vegan food up on the mezzanine..... > tho..one booth was selling something with honey in it as vegan..tsk tsk... > > anyways..was there all day, and had a great time > > cheers > fraggle > > > " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither > does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight > that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become > unwilling victims of the darkness. " > William O. Douglas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest of the year.... a few brewfests and robert fisk speech next week... heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite! heh fraggle heartwerk <jo.heartwork Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM Re: green fest Hi Fraggle That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls. Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London in a few weeks - more nice food :-) Jo --- " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwilling victims of the darkness. " William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I went to the Green Fest in DC this year, and I loved it! I've never been to one before, but it was nice to see so many like-minded open-minded people gathered in one place! I have to admit though, my biggest reason for going was the food! There were some great vendors, and I was more than happy to pay an increased price for that food than say, McDonalds. Anyway, just had to give my 2 cents, I think I'm going to go every year now, at least if they continue to have it in DC! Katherine - fraggle Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:03 PM green fest well..since i went to the SF GreenFest last weekend, thought i'd blather on it a tad..yeah..i'm allowed to be boring....anywaysit was immensely packed this year..it normally is, but, it seemed even more so this yearit takes place in the SF Concourse, which holds something like 10,000 ppl..and i swear, it felt like 3 times that amount...the speakers seemed a bit lacking this year...instead of having them in the back of the auditorium, they actually had to move them outside to a big tent in the parking lot!i only listened to Jim Hightower this year..sittin in one place fer too long drives me batty anyways...most of the other speakers just didn't seem t ohave the caliber of past yearslottsa booths and exhibits...and of course, lotsa vegan food up on the mezzanine.....tho..one booth was selling something with honey in it as vegan..tsk tsk...anyways..was there all day, and had a great timecheersfraggle"Just as nightfall does not come at once, neitherdoes oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilightthat we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we becomeunwilling victims of the darkness."William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think the Christmas without cruelty is the only one left now. Mentioning brewfests brought back memories of my brother. He lived in Germany for about 6 years, and ~loved~ the Oktoberfest beer festivals. BB Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, November 11, 2005 12:37 AM Re: Re: green fest > don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest of the year.... > a few brewfests > and robert fisk speech next week... > > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite! > heh > fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Sounds like fun, glad you enjoyed it! Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > well..since i went to the SF GreenFest last weekend, thought i'd blather on it a tad.. > yeah..i'm allowed to be boring.... > > anyways > it was immensely packed this year..it normally is, but, it seemed even more so this year > it takes place in the SF Concourse, which holds something like 10,000 ppl..and i swear, it felt like 3 times that amount... > > the speakers seemed a bit lacking this year...instead of having them in the back of the auditorium, they actually had to move them outside to a big tent in the parking lot! > i only listened to Jim Hightower this year..sittin in one place fer too long drives me batty anyways...most of the other speakers just didn't seem t ohave the caliber of past years > > lottsa booths and exhibits... > and of course, lotsa vegan food up on the mezzanine..... > tho..one booth was selling something with honey in it as vegan..tsk tsk... > > anyways..was there all day, and had a great time > > cheers > fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hi Katherine We find the various vegan festivals good fun - especially the food. It's also good to look at all the clothing and shoes, and toiletries. Jo - Steve and Katherine Isola Friday, November 11, 2005 12:19 PM Re: green fest I went to the Green Fest in DC this year, and I loved it! I've never been to one before, but it was nice to see so many like-minded open-minded people gathered in one place! I have to admit though, my biggest reason for going was the food! There were some great vendors, and I was more than happy to pay an increased price for that food than say, McDonalds. Anyway, just had to give my 2 cents, I think I'm going to go every year now, at least if they continue to have it in DC! Katherine - fraggle Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:03 PM green fest well..since i went to the SF GreenFest last weekend, thought i'd blather on it a tad..yeah..i'm allowed to be boring....anywaysit was immensely packed this year..it normally is, but, it seemed even more so this yearit takes place in the SF Concourse, which holds something like 10,000 ppl..and i swear, it felt like 3 times that amount...the speakers seemed a bit lacking this year...instead of having them in the back of the auditorium, they actually had to move them outside to a big tent in the parking lot!i only listened to Jim Hightower this year..sittin in one place fer too long drives me batty anyways...most of the other speakers just didn't seem t ohave the caliber of past yearslottsa booths and exhibits...and of course, lotsa vegan food up on the mezzanine.....tho..one booth was selling something with honey in it as vegan..tsk tsk...anyways..was there all day, and had a great timecheersfraggle"Just as nightfall does not come at once, neitherdoes oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilightthat we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we becomeunwilling victims of the darkness."William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Fraggle, I went to the vegetarian festival in my town last sunday. It was real swell. There was loads of foods of all types. All free. Well the entrance was five dollars but, it went directly to an animal rescue group. There was also a live band. It was a big deal for us, because this isn't a vegetarian frienldy town and it felt great to see all those people like minded. I was amused at the parking lot cars. The bumper stickers, I have never seen so many in one place for instance... Meat is murder Save the Manatee Vegan greenpeace Kerry/Edwards etc, etc, -anouk , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest of the year.... > a few brewfests > and robert fisk speech next week... > > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite! > heh > fraggle > > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> > Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM > > Re: green fest > > Hi Fraggle > > That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls. > > Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London > in a few weeks - more nice food :-) > > Jo > > --- > > " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither > does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight > that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become > unwilling victims of the darkness. " > William O. Douglas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Anouk, Sounds like a great gig. I wish something like that would happen in my town, but I know it will probably not happen in my life time. Still, glad its happening somewhere! The Valley Vegan........... Things You didnt know about Wales No.14 Peter Rabbit's garden was in Tenby.Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: Hi Fraggle,I went to the vegetarian festival in my town last sunday. It was real swell.There was loads of foods of all types. All free. Well the entrance was five dollars but, it went directly to ananimal rescue group. There was also a live band. It was a big deal for us, because this isn't a vegetarian frienldy town and it felt great to see all those people like minded. I was amused at the parking lot cars. The bumper stickers, I havenever seen so many in one place for instance...Meat is murderSave the ManateeVegangreenpeaceKerry/Edwardsetc, etc,-anouk , fraggle wrote:>> don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest ofthe year....> a few brewfests> and robert fisk speech next week...> > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite!> heh> fraggle> > > heartwerk > Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM> > Re: green fest> > Hi Fraggle> > That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls.> > Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London> in a few weeks - more nice food :-)> > Jo> > ---> > "Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither> does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is insuch twilight> that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight -lest we become> unwilling victims of the darkness."> William O. Douglas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 have fun next time!!!! i agree, they are a blast... tho..the crowd around the food pavilions makes ya feel like you need to bring yer own air..its so dang cramped...worse then disneyland i swear I went to one of them recently, eithre disneland or disneyworld, which ever one is near me.. We got tickets from a relative for his seventh birthday. There were five parks, each of them enormous...a city within itself. the one we went to is the one with the cinderellas castle in it. We parked our car... in an enormouse parking lot then we got in a very very long train.. then inside of the park, we rode on trains to get from one place to the other. My sons enjoyed it, but as an adult my eyes are different and did not see things they way they did. There was a White (stork like) bird near a lake inside the park. This bird was clearly in pain, as it had fishing equipment around its leg. We complained to several people and they said they had nothing to do with it. Then we went into the main office, where there were some Asian women who did not speak a lot of english.. After listening to our complain she said.. " no worry, bird no harm you " " bird no harm children " she could not possible comprehend that someone just cared about a bird. I have nothing against asian, but really they did not help me. The bird was left there. Needles to say there were no vegetarian restaurants.. we found as mexican restaruant and we just ordered bean burritos. I am not interested in going back.. but of course I am not a kid, they had a different opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Anouk, Thats a sad story about the bird. I couldnt have left it like that, I would have had to have done something myself if no-one else would. Hope it didnt spoil the erst of your trip. I have thought about if I had enough money would I take my kids to Disneyland, and although I would like them to enjoy their childhood and not grow up too fast, I`m not sure that I would want to take them there. The Valley Vegan.............. Things You Didnt know about Wales No.17 First steam engine journey - Merthyr Tydfil (Richard Trevithick). Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: have fun next time!!!! i agree, they are a blast...tho..the crowd around the food pavilions makes ya feel like you needto bring yer own air..its so dang cramped...worse then disneyland i swearI went to one of them recently, eithre disneland or disneyworld, whichever one is near me.. We got tickets from a relative for his seventh birthday. There were five parks, each of them enormous...a city within itself.the one we went to is the one with the cinderellas castle in it.We parked our car... in an enormouse parking lotthen we got in a very very long train..then inside of the park, we rode on trains to get from one place to the other. My sons enjoyed it, but as an adult my eyes are different and did notsee things they way they did. There was a White (stork like) bird near a lake inside the park. This bird was clearly in pain, as it had fishing equipment around itsleg. We complained to several people and they said they had nothing to dowith it. Then we went into the main office, where there were some Asian womenwho did not speak a lot of english..After listening to our complain she said.. "no worry, bird no harmyoubird no harm children"she could not possible comprehend that someone just cared about abird. I have nothing against asian, but really they did not help me. The bird was left there. Needles to say there were no vegetarian restaurants.. we found asmexican restaruant and we just ordered bean burritos.I am not interested in going back.. but of course I am not a kid, theyhad a different opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 I saw a bumper sticker recently that we loved, especially my DH, it said Walmart Sucks. My daughter wondered where you could buy such a thing, I said probably Walmart!Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: Hi Fraggle,I went to the vegetarian festival in my town last sunday. It was real swell.There was loads of foods of all types. All free. Well the entrance was five dollars but, it went directly to ananimal rescue group. There was also a live band. It was a big deal for us, because this isn't a vegetarian frienldy town and it felt great to see all those people like minded. I was amused at the parking lot cars. The bumper stickers, I havenever seen so many in one place for instance...Meat is murderSave the ManateeVegangreenpeaceKerry/Edwardsetc, etc,-anouk , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:>> don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest ofthe year....> a few brewfests> and robert fisk speech next week...> > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite!> heh> fraggle> > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>> Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM> > Re: green fest> > Hi Fraggle> > That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls.> > Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London> in a few weeks - more nice food :-)> > Jo> > ---> > "Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither> does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is insuch twilight> that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight -lest we become> unwilling victims of the darkness."> William O. Douglas> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi peter, you can order a bunch of informative information, for e.g. intro to vegetariansim, pamplets, leaflets etc. From peta or other societies. leave them lying around, or distribute them in a street corner, post them on walls etc. Drop them from a plane!! the thing is to get the word out on Veganism. You would be surprised at how many people are interested in change. a lot of people are just not informed. a lot of people do not really want to be cruel to animals. I will go to Wales someday and I will help you and my kids together and your kids or whoever else wants to join us and we will set up a table. I might need a loudspeaker hehe but I can talk till my voice get hoarse.. We can do it.. spread the word.. save animals.. one person at a time. Good conquers evil! No to speciesim! , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > Hi Anouk, > Sounds like a great gig. I wish something like that would happen in my town, but I know it will probably not happen in my life time. Still, glad its happening somewhere! > > The Valley Vegan........... > Things You didnt know about Wales No.14 > > Peter Rabbit's garden was in Tenby. > > > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> wrote: > Hi Fraggle, > > I went to the vegetarian festival in my town last sunday. > It was real swell. > There was loads of foods of all types. All free. > Well the entrance was five dollars but, it went directly to an > animal rescue group. > There was also a live band. > It was a big deal for us, because this isn't a vegetarian frienldy > town and it felt great to see all those people like minded. > > I was amused at the parking lot cars. The bumper stickers, I have > never seen so many in one place for instance... > > Meat is murder > Save the Manatee > Vegan > greenpeace > Kerry/Edwards > etc, etc, > > -anouk > > > , fraggle wrote: > > > > don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest of > the year.... > > a few brewfests > > and robert fisk speech next week... > > > > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite! > > heh > > fraggle > > > > > > heartwerk > > Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM > > > > Re: green fest > > > > Hi Fraggle > > > > That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls. > > > > Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London > > in a few weeks - more nice food :-) > > > > Jo > > > > --- > > > > " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither > > does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in > such twilight > > that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - > lest we become > > unwilling victims of the darkness. " > > William O. Douglas > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Anouk, I have always been one for subversive information. My favourite trick was to leave leaflets in my libraray books when I returned them so that the next person borrowing them had a surprise. I also take leaflets to work and "leave them lying around" in the rest areas.I like passive resistance. What I don`t like is people handing stuff out on the streets and hastling people. In the middle of Cardiff`s main street there are on average 20 people every day trying to do surveys, selling the big issue, trying to sell insurance, even trying to get women signed up to hairdressers! it gets you down when you have to keep constantly apologising to get from one end of a street to another. Spoils your lunch! Theres always a welcome in Wales, ask Jo! The Valley Vegan................ Things You didnt know about Wales No.19 The world's first passenger train line (Swansea). Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: Hi peter, you can order a bunch of informative information, for e.g. intro tovegetariansim,pamplets, leaflets etc. From peta or other societies. leave them lying around, or distribute them in a street corner, postthem on walls etc. Drop them from a plane!!the thing is to get the word out on Veganism. You would be surprised at how many people are interested in change. a lot of people are just not informed.a lot of people do not really want to be cruel to animals. I will go to Wales someday and I will help you and my kids togetherand your kids or whoever else wants to join us and wewill set up a table. I might need a loudspeaker hehe but I cantalk till my voice get hoarse..We can do it.. spread the word.. save animals.. one person at a time.Good conquers evil!No to speciesim! , peter hurd wrote:>> Hi Anouk,> Sounds like a great gig. I wish something like that would happen inmy town, but I know it will probably not happen in my life time.Still, glad its happening somewhere!> > The Valley Vegan...........> Things You didnt know about Wales No.14> > Peter Rabbit's garden was in Tenby.> > > Anouk Sickler wrote:> Hi Fraggle,> > I went to the vegetarian festival in my town last sunday. > It was real swell.> There was loads of foods of all types. All free. > Well the entrance was five dollars but, it went directly to an> animal rescue group. > There was also a live band. > It was a big deal for us, because this isn't a vegetarian frienldy > town and it felt great to see all those people like minded. > > I was amused at the parking lot cars. The bumper stickers, I have> never seen so many in one place for instance...> > Meat is murder> Save the Manatee> Vegan> greenpeace> Kerry/Edwards> etc, etc,> > -anouk> > > , fraggle wrote:> >> > don't think i have any vegan/green events planned fer the rest of> the year....> > a few brewfests> > and robert fisk speech next week...> > > > heck..i can barely figure out wot i'm doin tonite!> > heh> > fraggle> > > > > > heartwerk > > Nov 10, 2005 4:11 PM> > > > Re: green fest> > > > Hi Fraggle> > > > That sounds good. At least you enjoyed the stalls.> > > > Our next vegan outing is the Christmas Without Cruelty fair in London> > in a few weeks - more nice food :-)> > > > Jo> > > > ---> > > > "Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither> > does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in> such twilight> > that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight -> lest we become> > unwilling victims of the darkness."> > William O. Douglas> >> > > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi peter, we were torn too, the lake was not accesible to people, we could just see him.. and we had to take a boat back to our car.. I did called disney the next day and someone told me that they would look into it... if you ever do come to florida.. there are still some beautiful natural parks that we go to with kinda like forest that are really peaceful and almost always see all kinds of wildlife.. I try not to disturb.. aligators, pelican.. all kinds of parrrots running wild, lizards.. turtles, rabbits, panthers, snakes... etc. I heard on the radio this morning " do not let your cats out " there are reports of Cat eating Lizards.. on the loose.. , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > Hi Anouk, > Thats a sad story about the bird. I couldnt have left it like that, I would have had to have done something myself if no-one else would. > Hope it didnt spoil the erst of your trip. > I have thought about if I had enough money would I take my kids to Disneyland, and although I would like them to enjoy their childhood and not grow up too fast, I`m not sure that I would want to take them there. > > The Valley Vegan.............. > Things You Didnt know about Wales No.17 > First steam engine journey - Merthyr Tydfil (Richard Trevithick). > > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> wrote: > have fun next time!!!! i agree, they are a blast... > tho..the crowd around the food pavilions makes ya feel like you need > to bring yer own air..its so dang cramped...worse then disneyland i swear > > > I went to one of them recently, eithre disneland or disneyworld, which > ever one is near me.. We got tickets from a relative for his seventh > birthday. > There were five parks, each of them enormous...a city within itself. > the one we went to is the one with the cinderellas castle in it. > We parked our car... in an enormouse parking lot > then we got in a very very long train.. > then inside of the park, we rode on trains to get from one place to the > other. > > My sons enjoyed it, but as an adult my eyes are different and did not > see things they way they did. > > There was a White (stork like) bird near a lake inside the park. > This bird was clearly in pain, as it had fishing equipment around its > leg. > We complained to several people and they said they had nothing to do > with it. > Then we went into the main office, where there were some Asian women > who did not speak a lot of english.. > After listening to our complain she said.. " no worry, bird no harm > you " " bird no harm children " > > she could not possible comprehend that someone just cared about a > bird. I have nothing against asian, but really they did not help me. > > The bird was left there. > Needles to say there were no vegetarian restaurants.. we found as > mexican restaruant and we just ordered bean burritos. > > I am not interested in going back.. but of course I am not a kid, they > had a different opinion. To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Anouk, Maybe one day when the funds allow, I will go across the pond, who knows? Sounds nice. The Valley Vegan............... Things You didnt know about Wales No. 20 A Welshman (David Hughes, born Corwen) first invented the microphone and radio. Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: Hi peter, we were torn too, the lake was not accesible to people, we could justsee him.. and we had to take a boat back to our car.. I did called disney the next day and someone told me that they wouldlook into it... if you ever do come to florida.. there are still some beautiful natural parks that we go to with kinda like forest that are reallypeaceful and almost always see all kinds of wildlife.. I try not to disturb..aligators, pelican.. all kinds of parrrots running wild, lizards..turtles, rabbits, panthers, snakes... etc. I heard on the radio this morning "do not let your cats out" there are reports of Cat eating Lizards.. on the loose.. , peter hurd wrote:>> Hi Anouk,> Thats a sad story about the bird. I couldnt have left it like that,I would have had to have done something myself if no-one else would.> Hope it didnt spoil the erst of your trip.> I have thought about if I had enough money would I take my kids toDisneyland, and although I would like them to enjoy their childhoodand not grow up too fast, I`m not sure that I would want to take themthere.> > The Valley Vegan..............> Things You Didnt know about Wales No.17> First steam engine journey - Merthyr Tydfil (Richard Trevithick). > > Anouk Sickler wrote:> have fun next time!!!! i agree, they are a blast...> tho..the crowd around the food pavilions makes ya feel like you need> to bring yer own air..its so dang cramped...worse then disneyland iswear> > > I went to one of them recently, eithre disneland or disneyworld, which> ever one is near me.. We got tickets from a relative for his seventh > birthday. > There were five parks, each of them enormous...a city within itself.> the one we went to is the one with the cinderellas castle in it.> We parked our car... in an enormouse parking lot> then we got in a very very long train..> then inside of the park, we rode on trains to get from one place to the > other. > > My sons enjoyed it, but as an adult my eyes are different and did not> see things they way they did. > > There was a White (stork like) bird near a lake inside the park. > This bird was clearly in pain, as it had fishing equipment around its> leg. > We complained to several people and they said they had nothing to do> with it. > Then we went into the main office, where there were some Asian women> who did not speak a lot of english..> After listening to our complain she said.. "no worry, bird no harm> youbird no harm children"> > she could not possible comprehend that someone just cared about a> bird. I have nothing against asian, but really they did not help me. > > The bird was left there. > Needles to say there were no vegetarian restaurants.. we found as> mexican restaruant and we just ordered bean burritos.> > I am not interested in going back.. but of course I am not a kid, they> had a different opinion. > > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 disneyworld disneyland is on this coast it was prolly an egret...unfortunately its extremely common for water birds of any stripe to get tangled up in nets and fishing lines... and, as for vegan fare..its always been tough to find such fare at amusement parks, but i have some friends who went a few years ago, and said it was possible t ofind veggiefood at disneyworld now.. since the whole epcot center thing and other places emphasizes cultures of the world, they bring in chefs from all over, and a few places cater to the veggie corwd some place called cosmic rays,and tony's something other supposedly had a fantastic eggplant and portobello panini sandwich... and..some other place there called..umm..garden grill i think...something like that..anyways..they have several vegetarian items on the menu, and will make vegan options if you call em in advance... of course..this is all second hand..i haven't been to disneyworld since like 1975 and it wasn't halfway finished yet but..if you ever decide to go again...at least ya can look around now !!! cheers fraggle Anouk Sickler <zurumato Nov 16, 2005 1:24 PM Re: green fest > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> wrote: > have fun next time!!!! i agree, they are a blast... > tho..the crowd around the food pavilions makes ya feel like you need > to bring yer own air..its so dang cramped...worse then disneyland i swear > > > I went to one of them recently, eithre disneland or disneyworld, which > ever one is near me.. We got tickets from a relative for his seventh > birthday. > There were five parks, each of them enormous...a city within itself. > the one we went to is the one with the cinderellas castle in it. > We parked our car... in an enormouse parking lot > then we got in a very very long train.. > then inside of the park, we rode on trains to get from one place to the > other. > > My sons enjoyed it, but as an adult my eyes are different and did not > see things they way they did. > > There was a White (stork like) bird near a lake inside the park. > This bird was clearly in pain, as it had fishing equipment around its > leg. > We complained to several people and they said they had nothing to do > with it. > Then we went into the main office, where there were some Asian women > who did not speak a lot of english.. > After listening to our complain she said.. " no worry, bird no harm > you " " bird no harm children " > > she could not possible comprehend that someone just cared about a > bird. I have nothing against asian, but really they did not help me. > > The bird was left there. > Needles to say there were no vegetarian restaurants.. we found as > mexican restaruant and we just ordered bean burritos. > > I am not interested in going back.. but of course I am not a kid, they > had a different opinion. To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Peter's Rabbit had a garden?! Well no wonder he posted so many times about him. I'd be proud too! Nikki , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > Hi Anouk, > Sounds like a great gig. I wish something like that would happen in my town, but I know it will probably not happen in my life time. Still, glad its happening somewhere! > > The Valley Vegan........... > Things You didnt know about Wales No.14 > > Peter Rabbit's garden was in Tenby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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