Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 28, 2005

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only

his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains,

including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............Peter H

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November 28, 2005

I don't know - I've managed it :-)

Jo

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fraggle

Monday, November 28, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

easier said then done at times jo Nov 28, 2005 1:30 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

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peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menufunction createQString(s) { return escape(s); } var Heading = "Vegan%20prisoner%20finds%20limited%20Thanksgiving%20menu"; var tempTitle = createQString(Heading); var Title = " & t="+tempTitle;

'); //-->

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November 25, 20054.7)))){ var upper_limit = 500000; var IncludeStr = "\\"; var myString = new String(window.location); var myArray = myString.split('/'); var Loc = myArray[6]; if (!Loc) { var myArray = myString.split('='); var temp = myArray[1]; var Loc = temp.substring(4,12); } document.write(IncludeStr); document.write(Loc); document.write(Title); document.write(EndStr); } --> PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 28, 2005

lucky!

jo Nov 28, 2005 2:50 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

I don't know - I've managed it :-)

Jo

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fraggle

Monday, November 28, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

easier said then done at times

Don't need no politician

Tell me things I ought to be Neither no optician

Tell me what I ought to see

No one tells you nothing

Even when you know they know

They tell you what you should be

They don't like to see you grow

November 29, 2005

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted for your beliefs.Most people dont have the guts.

Did you see what he was in for?

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

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peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only

his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains,

including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 29, 2005

Me too, though I have had a nice portrait done, and some nice inky fingers..............but that was when I was younger.....

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I don't know - I've managed it :-)

Jo

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fraggle

Monday, November 28, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

easier said then done at times jo Nov 28, 2005 1:30 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menufunction createQString(s) { return escape(s); } var Heading = "Vegan%20prisoner%20finds%20limited%20Thanksgiving%20menu"; var tempTitle = createQString(Heading); var Title = " & t="+tempTitle;

'); //-->

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November 25, 20054.7)))){ var upper_limit = 500000; var IncludeStr = "\\"; var myString = new String(window.location); var myArray = myString.split('/'); var Loc = myArray[6]; if (!Loc) { var myArray = myString.split('='); var temp = myArray[1]; var Loc = temp.substring(4,12); } document.write(IncludeStr); document.write(Loc); document.write(Title); document.write(EndStr); } --> PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale

buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date

in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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Yep - plotting to blow up trucks - which I think is wrong.

Jo

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peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:00 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted for your beliefs.Most people dont have the guts.

Did you see what he was in for?

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

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peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 29, 2005

why..was there a time when you were older? peter hurd Nov 29, 2005 12:04 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Me too, though I have had a nice portrait done, and some nice inky fingers..............but that was when I was younger.....

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I don't know - I've managed it :-)

Jo

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fraggle

Monday, November 28, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

easier said then done at times jo Nov 28, 2005 1:30 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menufunction createQString(s) { return escape(s); } var Heading = "Vegan%20prisoner%20finds%20limited%20Thanksgiving%20menu"; var tempTitle = createQString(Heading); var Title = " & t="+tempTitle;

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November 25, 20054.7)))){ var upper_limit = 500000; var IncludeStr = "\\"; var myString = new String(window.location); var myArray = myString.split('/'); var Loc = myArray[6]; if (!Loc) { var myArray = myString.split('='); var temp = myArray[1]; var Loc = temp.substring(4,12); } document.write(IncludeStr); document.write(Loc); document.write(Title); document.write(EndStr); } --> PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably wont eat too much.Its a huge problem, said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriffs Office, which operates the county jails. Theres always somebody coming in and saying, I cant eat that. Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, were running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.The jails kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshalls attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion, Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.Portland is a very diverse community, Shults said. We decided to go out and ask for help.Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 29, 2005

I've never got into any scrapes with the police, apart from having the car searched on the way to hunt sabbing, and a couple of other times - although I think that was only cos it was an old car, and Peter and my daughter's boyfriend had long hair.

I never think it's a good idea to head for trouble. I don't think it achieves anything really.

Jo

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peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:04 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Me too, though I have had a nice portrait done, and some nice inky fingers..............but that was when I was younger.....

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I don't know - I've managed it :-)

Jo

-

fraggle

Monday, November 28, 2005 9:54 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

easier said then done at times jo Nov 28, 2005 1:30 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menufunction createQString(s) { return escape(s); } var Heading = "Vegan%20prisoner%20finds%20limited%20Thanksgiving%20menu"; var tempTitle = createQString(Heading); var Title = " & t="+tempTitle;

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November 25, 20054.7)))){ var upper_limit = 500000; var IncludeStr = "\\"; var myString = new String(window.location); var myArray = myString.split('/'); var Loc = myArray[6]; if (!Loc) { var myArray = myString.split('='); var temp = myArray[1]; var Loc = temp.substring(4,12); } document.write(IncludeStr); document.write(Loc); document.write(Title); document.write(EndStr); } --> PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 29, 2005

Ya don't have to be headin fer *trouble* fer it to find you..... jo Nov 29, 2005 3:55 PM Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

I've never got into any scrapes with the police, apart from having the car searched on the way to hunt sabbing, and a couple of other times - although I think that was only cos it was an old car, and Peter and my daughter's boyfriend had long hair.

I never think it's a good idea to head for trouble. I don't think it achieves anything really.

Jo

Don't need no politician

Tell me things I ought to be Neither no optician

Tell me what I ought to see

No one tells you nothing

Even when you know they know

They tell you what you should be

They don't like to see you grow

November 29, 2005

Andwhat were the trucks being used for? was that right?

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

Yep - plotting to blow up trucks - which I think is wrong.

Jo

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peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:00 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted for your beliefs.Most people dont have the guts.

Did you see what he was in for?

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only

his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains,

including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 29, 2005

No - but that is not a logical argument. Just because one thing is wrong does not mean that anything done against it is right.

Jo

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peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:14 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Andwhat were the trucks being used for? was that right?

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

Yep - plotting to blow up trucks - which I think is wrong.

Jo

-

peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:00 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted for your beliefs.Most people dont have the guts.

Did you see what he was in for?

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains, including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

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November 30, 2005

I never said that it did?

The Valley Vegan...............

In these times of war todayA choice must be made that no one wants to makeThe result is inevitableNo one wins but a side must be takenjo <jo.heartwork wrote:

No - but that is not a logical argument. Just because one thing is wrong does not mean that anything done against it is right.

Jo

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peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:14 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Andwhat were the trucks being used for? was that right?

The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

Yep - plotting to blow up trucks - which I think is wrong.

Jo

-

peter hurd

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:00 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted for your beliefs.Most people dont have the guts.

Did you see what he was in for?

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

That's a shame - the moral of the story though is to stay out of prison!

Jo

-

peter hurd

Monday, November 28, 2005 8:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

November 25, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — There should be some Thanksgiving leftovers at the Justice Center Jail.Stephen Marshall, 20, who is accused of eco-sabotage, has asked for vegan meals (no meat, eggs or dairy) since he arrived at the jail in August.Jail officials have refused to adhere to his dietary wishes, and are offering him turkey and stuffing for Thanksgiving. Marshall probably won’t eat too much.“It’s a huge problem,” said Lt. Michael Shults, a spokesman for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office, which operates the county jails. “There’s always somebody coming in and saying, ’I can’t eat that.’ Once you give someone one thing and somebody else another, we’re running a full scale buffet, which is very expensive.”The jail’s kitchen provides custom meals only for religious or medical reasons. Marshall cites no religious conviction, only

his beliefs against animal cruelty.Marshall’s attorney would not allow his client to discuss his dietary needs. But Chantel Guidry, a Lawrence, Kan.-based member of the prisoner support network Anarchist Black Cross, is leading a letter-writing campaign to get Marshall his vegan diet.Guidry says Marshall survives on whatever vegan items arrive on his tray, and she is concerned about his health.“It is not necessary that Mr. Marshall lose a great deal of weight and risk his good health just because he is not a member of an accepted religion,” Guidry wrote in a letter dated Monday to the Justice Center jail captain.Marshall is accused of plotting to blow up trucks and equipment belonging to Morse Bros., which he claimed is polluting a stream in Washington County. He has a Dec. 6 trial date in federal court.As of last week, the county was providing special diets for about 10 percent of the total jail population. Shults said a panel of chaplains,

including Muslim and Buddhist clerics, helps screen religious dietary requests based on documented practice.“Portland is a very diverse community,” Shults said. “We decided to go out and ask for help.”———Information from: The Oregonian, http://www.oregonlive.com

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December 2, 2005

Hi Jo

I'm sorry, I have to argue this here. Trouble has definately found

you. Just look at all your friends on this group!

Yes, yes, me included.

BB

Nikki

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> I can only repeat that I have been around for 57 years and trouble

has not found me yet.

>

> Jo

December 2, 2005

Hi Nikki

Well that's true - but I still manage to insulate myself against it :-)

BB

Jo

-

" earthstrm " <earthstorm

Friday, December 02, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

> Hi Jo

>

> I'm sorry, I have to argue this here. Trouble has definately found

> you. Just look at all your friends on this group!

>

> Yes, yes, me included.

>

> BB

> Nikki

December 2, 2005

from the other side of the fence

on tuesday, my partner car ran out of gas....

she got some gas, and walked back to her car

while filling up a cop pulled up

wanted to know what she was doing..

" putting gas in my car "

oh..this is your car?

" yes "

so..wot's the cop do?

hand cuffs her and tosses her to the sidewalk

she then calls back up, and they search the car...

after not finding anything, and them finally finding her registration, they

unlock her and just leave

last nite

she closes the bar she works at and comes home..as she pulls away, a cop car

pulls in behind her

she gets pulled over...

why?

no reason

no ticket, not driving erratic..nothing

they checked her license and registration, ran her plates..and after 20 minutes,

let her go

you don't have to look fer trouble..it happily sticks its greedy head in

everywhere

jo <jo.heartwork

Dec 2, 2005 11:11 AM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

Hi Nikki

Well that's true - but I still manage to insulate myself against it :-)

BB

Jo

-

" earthstrm " <earthstorm

Friday, December 02, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

> Hi Jo

>

> I'm sorry, I have to argue this here. Trouble has definately found

> you. Just look at all your friends on this group!

>

> Yes, yes, me included.

>

> BB

> Nikki

To send an email to -

December 2, 2005

Maybe it is different there. I may have given the police reasons to notice

me in the past. On one demonstration a policeman who was walking

immediately behind me told everyone to keep moving. That did it for me - I

had every right to stop, so I stopped dead, turned round and looked at him.

He looked embarrassed and left me alone. At other times I have questioned

what they are doing - like one traffic policeman who was holding up our line

of traffic. I said he was letting all the other people get the parking

places and should let us through - he did. There are many small incidents

like that, and I have never had any trouble.

Jo

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

Friday, December 02, 2005 7:32 PM

Re: Vegan prisoner finds limited Thanksgiving menu

> from the other side of the fence

>

> on tuesday, my partner car ran out of gas....

> she got some gas, and walked back to her car

> while filling up a cop pulled up

> wanted to know what she was doing..

> " putting gas in my car "

> oh..this is your car?

> " yes "

> so..wot's the cop do?

> hand cuffs her and tosses her to the sidewalk

> she then calls back up, and they search the car...

> after not finding anything, and them finally finding her registration,

they unlock her and just leave

>

> last nite

> she closes the bar she works at and comes home..as she pulls away, a cop

car pulls in behind her

> she gets pulled over...

> why?

> no reason

> no ticket, not driving erratic..nothing

> they checked her license and registration, ran her plates..and after 20

minutes, let her go

>

> you don't have to look fer trouble..it happily sticks its greedy head in

everywhere

>

December 2, 2005

here, you'd be hauled out of yer car fer obstructing an officer in the line of

duty...

my ex wife had her leg broekn when the cops broke up a show

i've been shot at by police during demonstrations

i once was walking my groceries home, and got handcuffed and tossed in the back

of the car, fer no reason besides they didn't like me

*shrug*

jo <jo.heartwork

Dec 2, 2005 11:50 AM