Guest guest Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hi Susan, I didn't like it either. Tried is last year Thanksgiving and quickly went to a stir-fry instead. Nikki , Susan <oceanfest_2000> wrote: > > I would hope it would taste better that tofu turkey. I > thought that was pretty gross. :-( > > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > well..if they somehow evolve tofu antelope... > > otherwise, think its sorta not gonna happen! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 You mean that you have actually spent time licking tyres? Man you are odd! Goes back to sniffing cats paws...... The Valley Vegan................Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Susan> tofurkey and it turned me off. :-)I have to say... I tried some tofurkey when in the US... and it really wasrevolting. Tasted like used tyres....BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hi Peter > You mean that you have actually spent time licking tyres? Now that's just sick - who would lick tyres.... good grief. I only eat the things - no licking involved! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Thanks Susan! Gee you put out a lot of effort for me!Susan <oceanfest_2000 wrote: Home-Prepared Dog & Cat Diets: the HealthfulAlternative -- by Donald R. Strombeck; NaturalNutrition for Dogs and Cats -- by Kymythy Schultze;Vegetarian dogs: Toward a world without exploitationby Verona Re-Bow; Vegetarian Cats & Dogs by James A. Peden, James A. Pedan. I have notreviewed these books, so you'll need to check them tosee if they answer questions--maybe they'll answer myearlier ones. I found a book to make my own bird foodas well and I'm waiting to get it. It sounds likethese are more vegetarian than vegan; I don't know. --- Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:> I have a large dog and would like to change him to> vegetarian food, but have heard that they really> aren't supposed to be vegetarian. He's 12 yo and is> only now showing some of his age, but doing even> better than I am! He's always had a sensitive> stomach, so I have to watch what I feed him> otherwise I'm cleaning something off the carpet from> one end or the other (If I can't get the door and> gate open fast enuf). He loves my food though and> used to eat anything. Now he's gotten picky, he'll> eat oranges, but not potatoes anymore, etc. Anyone> have a recommendation for vegetarian dog food for> him? And where would I find it?> > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: don't> forget the flea collars added in as well....> > > > linda > > Dec 5, 2005 9:24 AM > > Re: Re: Sense of proportion > > One of the things that absolutely horrifies me> is the fact that in pet food are the remains of> shelter animals that have been euthanized and it is> legit. Shelters contract to have these animals> picked up, they are sold to pet food manufacturers.> This is known because tests on pet foods have shown> traces of the medications that they use to put the> animal to sleep. This is in the US of course, don't> know about anywhere else, but it is a proven fact> here.> linda> "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is> very important that you do it."> Mohandas Gandhi> > linda's Growing Stitchery Projects:> womyn47> - > herbvalerian > > Monday, December 05, 2005 7:46 AM> Re: Sense of proportion> > > I agree. Also the meat most humans in the West eat> is disguised to pretend its something > else, shrink wrapped and not smelling of anything> except plastic. Who has actually gone > out and shot an animal and then brought it home and> gutted it and skinned it? Very few, > and I would say those are more honest meat eaters> than those who browse the shrink > wrapped sanitised supermarket shelves. The other> issue is that most of the poor factory > farmed creature is thrown in the bin at the> abbatoir. The meat eating public don't even eat > it all, just the convenient- to cook bits.> > , "linda"> <lindai81@c...> wrote:> >> > Those animals are obligate carnivores, we aren't.> They have no choice, we do. They don't > lock up their prey from birth until they kill them> never allowing them to live a life, > brutalizing them every single day of their short> life. You are right those obligate carnivores > do kill and eat other animals. There is absolutely> no comparison between an animal doing > what is natural and what we do to get our meat.> Sense of proportion? I am going to have > to work on that one 'cause it flies right over my> head. Brutality on the factory farms? Oh, > hey, keep a sense of proportion...they are just> pigs, chickens, cows, etc. Would you like to > justify that too with the "sense of proportion"> argument? Gosh, China skins cats alive to > put fur on clothing, then they mislabel it and ship> it to the U.S. But hey, what the heck, > their culture finds nothing offensive in that. Have> a sense of proportion. Where do you > draw the line? With this sense of proportion why> would anyone want to be in a Vegan > room?> > linda> > "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is> very important that you do it."> > Mohandas Gandhi> > > > jo > > I always think it wise to keep a sense of> porportion. One of the things I> > can never understand is that some people love> cats, birds of prey, tigers> > etc. who kill and eat other animals, but cannot> forgive humans for doing the> > same.> >> > > > > > > To send an email to> - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 You're welcome! I'm a librarian, I can't help myself! Besides, I had that question earlier. :-) --- Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote: > Thanks Susan! Gee you put out a lot of effort for > me! > > Susan <oceanfest_2000 wrote: > Home-Prepared Dog & Cat Diets: the Healthful > Alternative -- by Donald R. Strombeck; Natural > Nutrition for Dogs and Cats -- by Kymythy Schultze; > Vegetarian dogs: Toward a world without exploitation > by Verona Re-Bow; Vegetarian Cats & Dogs > by James A. Peden, James A. Pedan. I have not > reviewed these books, so you'll need to check them > to > see if they answer questions--maybe they'll answer > my > earlier ones. I found a book to make my own bird > food > as well and I'm waiting to get it. It sounds like > these are more vegetarian than vegan; I don't know. > > > > --- Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote: > > > I have a large dog and would like to change him to > > vegetarian food, but have heard that they really > > aren't supposed to be vegetarian. He's 12 yo and > is > > only now showing some of his age, but doing even > > better than I am! He's always had a sensitive > > stomach, so I have to watch what I feed him > > otherwise I'm cleaning something off the carpet > from > > one end or the other (If I can't get the door and > > gate open fast enuf). He loves my food though and > > used to eat anything. Now he's gotten picky, > he'll > > eat oranges, but not potatoes anymore, etc. > Anyone > > have a recommendation for vegetarian dog food for > > him? And where would I find it? > > > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > don't > > forget the flea collars added in as well.... > > > > > > > > linda > > > > Dec 5, 2005 9:24 AM > > > > Re: Re: Sense of proportion > > > > One of the things that absolutely horrifies > me > > is the fact that in pet food are the remains of > > shelter animals that have been euthanized and it > is > > legit. Shelters contract to have these animals > > picked up, they are sold to pet food > manufacturers. > > This is known because tests on pet foods have > shown > > traces of the medications that they use to put the > > animal to sleep. This is in the US of course, > don't > > know about anywhere else, but it is a proven fact > > here. > > linda > > " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is > > very important that you do it. " > > Mohandas Gandhi > > > > linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: > > womyn47 > > - > > herbvalerian > > > > Monday, December 05, 2005 7:46 AM > > Re: Sense of proportion > > > > > > I agree. Also the meat most humans in the West eat > > is disguised to pretend its something > > else, shrink wrapped and not smelling of anything > > except plastic. Who has actually gone > > out and shot an animal and then brought it home > and > > gutted it and skinned it? Very few, > > and I would say those are more honest meat eaters > > than those who browse the shrink > > wrapped sanitised supermarket shelves. The other > > issue is that most of the poor factory > > farmed creature is thrown in the bin at the > > abbatoir. The meat eating public don't even eat > > it all, just the convenient- to cook bits. > > > > , " linda " > > <lindai81@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Those animals are obligate carnivores, we > aren't. > > They have no choice, we do. They don't > > lock up their prey from birth until they kill them > > never allowing them to live a life, > > brutalizing them every single day of their short > > life. You are right those obligate carnivores > > do kill and eat other animals. There is absolutely > > no comparison between an animal doing > > what is natural and what we do to get our meat. > > Sense of proportion? I am going to have > > to work on that one 'cause it flies right over my > > head. Brutality on the factory farms? Oh, > > hey, keep a sense of proportion...they are just > > pigs, chickens, cows, etc. Would you like to > > justify that too with the " sense of proportion " > > argument? Gosh, China skins cats alive to > > put fur on clothing, then they mislabel it and > ship > > it to the U.S. But hey, what the heck, > > their culture finds nothing offensive in that. > Have > > a sense of proportion. Where do you > > draw the line? With this sense of proportion why > > would anyone want to be in a Vegan > > room? > > > linda > > > " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is > > very important that you do it. " > > > Mohandas Gandhi > > > > > > jo > > > I always think it wise to keep a sense of > > porportion. One of the things I > > > can never understand is that some people love > > cats, birds of prey, tigers > > > etc. who kill and eat other animals, but cannot > > forgive humans for doing the > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to > > - > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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