well, all we'd have to do is knock down the suburbs

[Guest guest]

FOOD CRISIS FEARED AS FERTILE LAND RUNS OUT: (12/06/05): " Maps show 40%

of Earth's land is used for agriculture. New maps show that the Earth is

rapidly running out of fertile land and that food production will soon be

unable to keep up with the world's burgeoning population. The maps reveal

that more than one third of the world's land is being used to grow crops or

graze cattle. The real question is, how can we continue to produce food

from the land while preventing negative environmental consequences such as

deforestation, water pollution and soil erosion?

 

" The maps show, very strikingly, that a large part of our planet (roughly

40%) is being used for either growing crops or grazing cattle, " said Dr

Navin Ramankutty, a member of the Wisconsin-Madison team. By comparison,

only 7% of the world's land was being used for agriculture in 1700. The

Amazon basin has seen some of the greatest changes in recent times, with

huge swaths of the rainforest being felled to grow soya beans. "

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1206-01.htm

 

 

 

 

 

what is peace

to the people

who work the land

and die in wars?

it was learned in a game

that was played by us all

who held the top of the hill

from the rest was called the king

and I can't believe it all

was good for humankind

[Guest guest]

huge swaths of the rainforest being felled to grow soya beans? Ah, so its our fault then is it? Rhetorical question ( before you answer it!) The Valley Vegan...............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: FOOD CRISIS FEARED AS FERTILE LAND RUNS OUT: (12/06/05): "Maps show 40%of Earth's land is used for agriculture. New maps show that the Earth israpidly running out of fertile land and that food production will soon beunable to keep up with the world's burgeoning population. The maps revealthat more than one third of the world's land is being used to grow crops orgraze cattle. The real question is, how can we continue to produce foodfrom the land while preventing negative environmental consequences such asdeforestation, water

pollution and soil erosion?"The maps show, very strikingly, that a large part of our planet (roughly40%) is being used for either growing crops or grazing cattle," said DrNavin Ramankutty, a member of the Wisconsin-Madison team. By comparison,only 7% of the world's land was being used for agriculture in 1700. TheAmazon basin has seen some of the greatest changes in recent times, withhuge swaths of the rainforest being felled to grow soya beans."http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1206-01.htmwhat is peace to the people who work the land and die in wars? it was learned in a game that was played by us allwho held the top of the hillfrom the rest was called the king and I can't believe it all was good for humankind

[Guest guest]

almost ironic that cows eat more soy then vegans... peter hurd Dec 22, 2005 1:30 PM Re: well, all we'd have to do is knock down the suburbs

huge swaths of the rainforest being felled to grow soya beans?

 

Ah, so its our fault then is it?

Rhetorical question ( before you answer it!)

 

The Valley Vegan...............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

FOOD CRISIS FEARED AS FERTILE LAND RUNS OUT: (12/06/05): "Maps show 40%of Earth's land is used for agriculture. New maps show that the Earth israpidly running out of fertile land and that food production will soon beunable to keep up with the world's burgeoning population. The maps revealthat more than one third of the world's land is being used to grow crops orgraze cattle. The real question is, how can we continue to produce foodfrom the land while preventing negative environmental consequences such asdeforestation, water pollution and soil erosion?"The maps show, very strikingly, that a large part of our planet (roughly40%) is being used for either growing crops or grazing cattle," said DrNavin Ramankutty, a member of the Wisconsin-Madison team. By comparison,only 7% of the world's land was being used for agriculture in 1700. TheAmazon basin has seen some of the greatest changes in recent times, withhuge swaths of the rainforest being felled to grow soya beans."http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1206-01.htmwhat is peace to the people who work the land and die in wars? it was learned in a game that was played by us allwho held the top of the hillfrom the rest was called the king and I can't believe it all was good for humankind

[Guest guest]

Vegans are not the problem, neither is consumption of soya products (not all of

which are

consumed by vegetarians as some companies use soya as a " filler " .

Intensive agriculture (both arable and animal farming) which destroys land and

makes it

useless and turns it into desert is part of the problem.

So is pollution which makes land both uninhabitable and unworkable.

So are greedy humans who want to buy second and third homes (any politicians

spring to

mind)?

So is world debt which encourages forested nations to sell off their forests

and export all

their own food crops so they can't feed their own people.

So is the third of food bought by the people in the affluent nations which

ends up in the

bin and then in landfill which also takes up land space.

So is the land taken up and polluted and then wasted by oil industry and other

fuel

extraction, mining, etc.

So is the land used to grow really huge masses of luxury foodstuffs such as

sugar, coffee,

chocolate...

[Guest guest]

I just finished reading Jane Goodall's new book, Harvest For Hope, 2005. It must have been published just a few months ago since it is incredibly up to date. It covers the areas that you mention below and does so in a gentle and honest way. She is certainly a treasure for the UK. And I am so glad she spends tons of time here. Even though I do what I can she makes me feel that I can do ever so much more. Pretty soon I will be living in a cave eating heavens only knows what. But walking lightly on the earth to make up for my heavy treading all of these years.

linda

"Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it."Mohandas Gandhi

 

linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47

 

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herbvalerian

Friday, December 23, 2005 6:41 AM

Re: well, all we'd have to do is knock down the suburbs

Vegans are not the problem, neither is consumption of soya products (not all of which are consumed by vegetarians as some companies use soya as a "filler".Intensive agriculture (both arable and animal farming) which destroys land and makes it useless and turns it into desert is part of the problem. So is pollution which makes land both uninhabitable and unworkable.So are greedy humans who want to buy second and third homes (any politicians spring to mind)? So is world debt which encourages forested nations to sell off their forests and export all their own food crops so they can't feed their own people. So is the third of food bought by the people in the affluent nations which ends up in the bin and then in landfill which also takes up land space. So is the land taken up and polluted and then wasted by oil industry and other fuel extraction, mining, etc.So is the land used to grow really huge masses of luxury foodstuffs such as sugar, coffee, chocolate...

[Guest guest]

I've ome in late on this so you may have already pointed out - a lot of

soya is grown to feed animals to make meat.

 

Jo

 

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" herbvalerian " <herbvalerian

 

Friday, December 23, 2005 2:41 PM

Re: well, all we'd have to do is knock down the

suburbs

 

 

> Vegans are not the problem, neither is consumption of soya products (not

all of which are

> consumed by vegetarians as some companies use soya as a " filler " .

> Intensive agriculture (both arable and animal farming) which destroys

land and makes it

> useless and turns it into desert is part of the problem.

> So is pollution which makes land both uninhabitable and unworkable.

> So are greedy humans who want to buy second and third homes (any

politicians spring to

> mind)?

> So is world debt which encourages forested nations to sell off their

forests and export all

> their own food crops so they can't feed their own people.

> So is the third of food bought by the people in the affluent nations

which ends up in the

> bin and then in landfill which also takes up land space.

> So is the land taken up and polluted and then wasted by oil industry and

other fuel

> extraction, mining, etc.

> So is the land used to grow really huge masses of luxury foodstuffs such

as sugar, coffee,

> chocolate...

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