Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 : This is an article written in Canada's largest daily newspaper, The Toronto Star, by the respected theologian and writer, Tom Harpur. It pretty much sums up my reasons for becoming a vegetarian in 1994. http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon-20030922/006913.html Anne xo "Nothing will benefit human health or increase the chances for survival of life on earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."-- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 I hope that even 1 out of 10 people that this gets sent to reads this. And that even half a percent of them let it affect them. That would be a good number to start with. I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may be, it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate back to their parents, other relatives and friends. And hopefully then, these plants too would react to the gasps and cries from the children... We definately need more awareness in this world. When I first became Vegan and someone would ask me why, I would reply something along the lines of because of personal reasons including the fact that I wanted to save myself and the world. Now I include this but my usual first reply is because I can no longer close my eyes and ignore what others do to the foods we eat. I refuse to knowingly eat poison and allow others to suffer for my gain when it is completel unnecessary. And this prompts questions and I no longer care how graphic in a response I give. I figure the more shocking the better. Let me know when the first ship leaves, I am so tired of this world. Thx for the forward! Nikki , " Anne Wilson " <anne008@s...> wrote: > > : > > This is an article written in Canada's largest daily newspaper, The Toronto Star, > by the respected theologian and writer, Tom Harpur. It pretty much sums up > my reasons for becoming a vegetarian in 1994. > > > > http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon- 20030922/006913.html > > Anne xo > > " Nothing will benefit human health or increase the chances for survival of life on earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. " > -- Albert Einstein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi Nikki > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring> children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may be,> it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate back to > their parents, other relatives and friends. I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the teachers brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I remember being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi Peter We did the same - and we were meant to cut it up - but I couldn't do that. BBJo - Peter Kebbell Friday, December 30, 2005 11:06 AM Re: Re: Article in The Toronto Star Hi Nikki > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring> children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may be,> it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate back to > their parents, other relatives and friends. I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the teachers brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I remember being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi Peter I remember at a young age walking into a neighborhood grocery store by my Gramma's house and seeing a pigs head in the butcher case for the first time. It didn't sway me away either, but it sure got the thought processes going. I try at this point to slowly influence Zak and teach him a bit about where his food comes from. On one hand the Vegan in me just wants to give him all the gory details. On the other hand the protective Mom in me knows the anti-veggie crusader would end up eating nothing but cereal for a few years. One thing that helps greatly is that he enjoys a lot of the soy replacements that I eat so at least I am somewhat there. BB Nikki , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring > > children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may be, > > it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate back to > > their parents, other relatives and friends. > > I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the teachers > brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some > demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I remember > being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 There is a stall in our local market - petfood stall - the smell is horrendous. They sell pigs ears, bull testicles etc. for dog chews. It is so sick. Jo - " earthstrm " <earthstorm Friday, December 30, 2005 12:30 PM Re: Article in The Toronto Star > Hi Peter > > I remember at a young age walking into a neighborhood grocery store > by my Gramma's house and seeing a pigs head in the butcher case for > the first time. It didn't sway me away either, but it sure got the > thought processes going. > > I try at this point to slowly influence Zak and teach him a bit > about where his food comes from. On one hand the Vegan in me just > wants to give him all the gory details. On the other hand the > protective Mom in me knows the anti-veggie crusader would end up > eating nothing but cereal for a few years. > > One thing that helps greatly is that he enjoys a lot of the soy > replacements that I eat so at least I am somewhat there. > > BB > Nikki > > > , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@g...> > wrote: > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring > > > children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may > be, > > > it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate > back to > > > their parents, other relatives and friends. > > > > I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the > teachers > > brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some > > demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I > remember > > being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I'm the same way, something in me wants to preserve my seven year old's optimistic, happy go lucky, trusting nature. something in me also wants me to tell him about the realities of life. what I tell him is that most people are good, but that there are some bad ones. i lie, hee hee. it is good that Zak enjoys your veggie foods, when he is older and perhaps might decide to be vegan, that transition would be smooth. it is very hard for my kids to be vegan, there is so much pressure from other kids to eat the same foods as them. and at parties, well meaning adults, make me feel bad about not feeding them ice cream for example. I am trying really hard to make my kitchen an exciting place so that they won't feel deprived, and so far it's ok. for example, my seven year old, one day had cheese pizza with his friends at a school party. I normally do not buy this for him. one day later, I made sure to make the best darn vegan pizza on the planet! , " earthstrm " <earthstorm@c...> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > I remember at a young age walking into a neighborhood grocery store > by my Gramma's house and seeing a pigs head in the butcher case for > the first time. It didn't sway me away either, but it sure got the > thought processes going. > > I try at this point to slowly influence Zak and teach him a bit > about where his food comes from. On one hand the Vegan in me just > wants to give him all the gory details. On the other hand the > protective Mom in me knows the anti-veggie crusader would end up > eating nothing but cereal for a few years. > > One thing that helps greatly is that he enjoys a lot of the soy > replacements that I eat so at least I am somewhat there. > > BB > Nikki > > > , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@g...> > wrote: > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring > > > children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may > be, > > > it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate > back to > > > their parents, other relatives and friends. > > > > I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the > teachers > > brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some > > demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I > remember > > being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 i also feel sick when passing by the meat isle. (from the smell and the sight) , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > There is a stall in our local market - petfood stall - the smell is > horrendous. They sell pigs ears, bull testicles etc. for dog chews. It is > so sick. > > Jo > > - > " earthstrm " <earthstorm@c...> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 12:30 PM > Re: Article in The Toronto Star > > > > Hi Peter > > > > I remember at a young age walking into a neighborhood grocery store > > by my Gramma's house and seeing a pigs head in the butcher case for > > the first time. It didn't sway me away either, but it sure got the > > thought processes going. > > > > I try at this point to slowly influence Zak and teach him a bit > > about where his food comes from. On one hand the Vegan in me just > > wants to give him all the gory details. On the other hand the > > protective Mom in me knows the anti-veggie crusader would end up > > eating nothing but cereal for a few years. > > > > One thing that helps greatly is that he enjoys a lot of the soy > > replacements that I eat so at least I am somewhat there. > > > > BB > > Nikki > > > > > > , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > > > > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring > > > > children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may > > be, > > > > it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate > > back to > > > > their parents, other relatives and friends. > > > > > > I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the > > teachers > > > brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some > > > demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I > > remember > > > being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal! > > > > > > BB > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Yes I can associate with that, upstairs at Cardiff`s in door market is a pet shop, that also has a lot of kittens/puppies etc............makes me sick.......... The Valley Vegan...................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: There is a stall in our local market - petfood stall - the smell ishorrendous. They sell pigs ears, bull testicles etc. for dog chews. It isso sick.Jo-"earthstrm" Friday, December 30, 2005 12:30 PM Re: Article in The Toronto Star> Hi Peter>> I remember at a young age walking into a neighborhood grocery store> by my Gramma's house and seeing a pigs head in the butcher case for> the first time. It didn't sway me away either, but it sure got the> thought processes going.>> I try at this point to slowly influence Zak and teach him a bit> about where his food comes from. On one hand the Vegan in me just> wants to give him all the gory details. On the other hand the> protective Mom in me knows the anti-veggie crusader would end up> eating nothing but cereal for a few years.>> One thing that helps greatly is that he enjoys a lot of the soy> replacements that I eat so at least I am somewhat there.>> BB> Nikki>>> , Peter Kebbell > wrote:> >> > Hi Nikki> >> > > I think instead of field trips to the zoo, schools should bring> > > children on these types of tours. As graphic and horrific it may> be,> > > it may open some young eyes. Which in turn they would relate> back to> > > their parents, other relatives and friends.> >> > I agree - I remember when I was at primary school, one of the> teachers> > brought in a bull's eye (literally, not the sweet!) for some> > demonstration... although it didn't turn me veggie at the time, I> remember> > being very disturbed that anyone would do that to an animal!> >> > BB> > Peter> >>>>>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Hi Anouk One thing that made me feel so good last night was Zak was looking for ice cream and DH had bought these little idividual ice cream cups for him. So he pulls it out of the fridge and Zak turns to me and says " Don't we have any of the tofutti " ? So off to Trader Joe's I go today to buy tofu ice cream. Of course Mommy wants some too... I know what you mean though by outside pressure. I think it is much harder nowadays for kids to fit in. We had it rough when I was young, but not at 7 years old. At least we do the best we can with what we have. Nikki , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > > I'm the same way, > > something in me wants to preserve my seven year old's optimistic, > happy go lucky, trusting nature. > something in me also wants me to tell him about the realities of life. > > what I tell him is that most people are good, but that there are some > bad ones. > > i lie, hee hee. > > it is good that Zak enjoys your veggie foods, when he is older and > perhaps might decide to be vegan, that transition would be smooth. > > it is very hard for my kids to be vegan, > there is so much pressure from other kids to eat the same foods as > them. and at parties, well meaning adults, make me feel bad about > not feeding them ice cream for example. > > > I am trying really hard to make my kitchen an exciting place > so that they won't feel deprived, and so far it's ok. > > for example, my seven year old, one day had cheese pizza with his > friends at a school party. I normally do not buy this for him. > > one day later, I made sure to make the best darn vegan pizza on the > planet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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