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I can't have one. Koko my cat used to eat the needles and get sick. This year

I have my two little rescued kitties and I can already see the signs of

undressing the tree lol

Donna

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Fri, 9 Nov 2007 05:01:48

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fake or real?

 

 

Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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In a message dated 11/9/2007 8:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mrswalp29 writes:

 

What does everyone here do?

 

 

 

I'm in a bit different situation. We own a landscape nursery, so we usually

cut one down that is growing too close to the others,crowding them so that

they will be less attractive and saleable. We end up with the Charlie Brown

tree

a lot of times. Other times we 'top' one, I can't remember the terminology

but we take the top 1/3 or so off and it stimulates better/fuller growth and

the tree will grow a new top and look better in the long run. and then we put

it out for the birds to nest in. Come spring we woodchip it and use it for

mulch.

 

I don't recommend doing 'live' trees unless you really look into it,

otherwise you may very well end up with a dead tree anyway. Amy

 

 

 

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In a message dated 11/9/2007 11:44:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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I think I vacuumed pine needles

out of the couch for something like 2 years. Needless to say, since that

experience, I've stuck with fake trees. Less fire hazard also!

 

 

 

The one time we bought a tree from a lot, it was losing needles on the way

into the house. That was an awful tree. Amy

 

 

 

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Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

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When we first moved in together we bought a fake tree and it's been used every

year since then! This is just my personal opinion but I'd say get one with it's

roots still on it then you can plant it in the garden after Christmas each

year... if this isn't possible or you've got small children or animals then go

with a fake one

 

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Friday, November 09, 2007 1:01 PM

vegetarian group

fake or real?

 

 

Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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For religouse reason we always get a small real tree. A topper usually

)as described above) We decorate it and use in our home with homemade

ornemants like pine cones, cranberry and popcorn strings ect. On the

last night of Yule we place it outside in our sacred space in our

yard. We offer it to the what we call land spirits as an offering. And

there it sits until the following yule. with nests added. Offering of

food and such made to the land spirits on it. The following Yule it is

brought back in and used as our Yule log.

 

But if we didn't do that we would be buying a replantable tree.

 

So we are pro live tree as long as your responsable.

 

 

 

On Nov 9, 2007 8:39 AM, Mandy <mandy2uk wrote:

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>

>

>

> When we first moved in together we bought a fake tree and it's been used

> every year since then! This is just my personal opinion but I'd say get one

> with it's roots still on it then you can plant it in the garden after

> Christmas each year... if this isn't possible or you've got small children

> or animals then go with a fake one

>

> Stay Safe

>

> Mandy

>

> You may be only one person in the world,

> but you may also be the world to one person.

>

> Money talks. Chocolate sings.

>

> I wish I were a glow worm,

> A glow worm is never glum.

> For how can you be gloomy

> When the sun shines out your bum?

>

> A bus station is where a bus stops.

> A train station is where train stops.

> On my desk, I have a work station.... What more can I say

>

> *HUGS* TOTAL! give mandy_2uk more *HUGS*

>

> ~My Main Site~

> [Mandy's Depression]

> ~My Second Site~

> [Mandy's World]

> ~My Twins Site~

> [Mandy's Twins]

> ~Are you a Pagan?~

> [beginner Pagan]

>

> Steph

> Friday, November 09, 2007 1:01 PM

> vegetarian group

>

> fake or real?

>

> Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

> Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a

> fake tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

>

> =^.^= Steph

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I love real christmas trees! Before I moved to the country, I used to buy one

from the

YMCA to support their programs (I wouldn't buy from a private lot). Now, we have

a

whole bunch of evergreens blocking the view of our house from the road - a

safety

concern. So instead of cutting them down all at once, we'll be using them for

christmas

trees every year until their are thinned out... that will take about 10 years.

(keep in

mind, that we have a 400ft driveway lined with evergreens on both sides and our

2 acre

lot is also lined with evergreens and Manitoba maples, instead of a fence).

 

I'm planting sugar maples and apple trees in the spring... the start of our

retirement

venture (organic maple syrup and apple orchard - I've got about 20 years before

we

start collecting sap). A little give and take keeps everything in balance :)

 

Cheers!

Denise Gontard Cartwright

 

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Subject : RE: fake or real?

 

Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and

wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake tree instead of

cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

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One year, the folks I was living with bought some good bright green

felt (the kind that's meant for pool tables) and cut out a tree that

was about six feet high. I loved that thing :) The felt was strong

enough to hang lots of ornaments on it. I'm not sure what eventually

happened to it, but I think we reused it for about five years without it

showing any wear. Besides, there was something fun about telling

people that I had to go iron my tree :^)

 

Steph wrote:

> Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

>

> =^.^= Steph

>

>

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My mom bought my littlest a 3' fake tree with lights 2 years ago when she

wanted a tree in the play area in the basement. My mom is a pretty indulgent

grandma.....last year we used it though because we were painting and all our

furniture was in the center of the room under a tarp, so we really didn't have

room to put up a tree.

This year we'll do both. amy

 

 

 

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I remember those fake silver trees and liked them when I was little. I recently

saw that they still make them..I usually get a real one, but maybe I will get a

silver one:)

Karen

 

Maureen <ailanthus wrote: One year,

the folks I was living with bought some good bright green

felt (the kind that's meant for pool tables) and cut out a tree that

was about six feet high. I loved that thing :) The felt was strong

enough to hang lots of ornaments on it. I'm not sure what eventually

happened to it, but I think we reused it for about five years without it

showing any wear. Besides, there was something fun about telling

people that I had to go iron my tree :^)

 

Steph wrote:

> Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

>

> =^.^= Steph

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We get a very small live one, then plant it.

 

Di

 

thelilacflower wrote:

I can't have one. Koko my cat used to eat the needles and get sick. This year

I have my two little rescued kitties and I can already see the signs of

undressing the tree lol

Donna

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 

 

Steph

 

Fri, 9 Nov 2007 05:01:48

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fake or real?

 

 

Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a fake

tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

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I honestly haven't considered it from the environmental angle, just from my

one and only experience with a " real " tree. I think I vacuumed pine needles

out of the couch for something like 2 years. Needless to say, since that

experience, I've stuck with fake trees. Less fire hazard also!

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Steph

Friday, November 09, 2007 7:02 AM

vegetarian group

fake or real?

 

Please don't send me hate mail..lol my husband and I are thinking about

Christmas and wondering if it would be better on the environment to buy a

fake tree instead of cutting one down each year. What does everyone here do?

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Two years ago we bought a live tree with the root ball and then planted it

outside. The only downer was, we are used to putting our tree up on

Thanksgiving weekend and keeping it up until New Year's eve. With the live root

tree, we could only keep in indoors 10 days max without causing harm. So, now

we use a very pretty artificial tree.

 

Pamela

 

akfral wrote:

In a message dated 11/9/2007 8:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mrswalp29 writes:

 

What does everyone here do?

 

I'm in a bit different situation. We own a landscape nursery, so we usually

cut one down that is growing too close to the others,crowding them so that

they will be less attractive and saleable. We end up with the Charlie Brown

tree

a lot of times. Other times we 'top' one, I can't remember the terminology

but we take the top 1/3 or so off and it stimulates better/fuller growth and

the tree will grow a new top and look better in the long run. and then we put

it out for the birds to nest in. Come spring we woodchip it and use it for

mulch.

 

I don't recommend doing 'live' trees unless you really look into it,

otherwise you may very well end up with a dead tree anyway. Amy

 

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Wow, Penny! Maybe it's a cultural thing, but most of us don't put our

pine tree in our couch! I wonder where that custom came from? :-D

 

Sharon

 

Penny French wrote:

> I honestly haven't considered it from the environmental angle, just from my

> one and only experience with a " real " tree. I think I vacuumed pine needles

> out of the couch for something like 2 years.

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LOL! Our living room was really weird, kind of long and narrow. The only

place to put the couch was under the front window and the only place to put

the tree was the corner next to the couch! Anywhere else it would have been

too close to our only source of heat - a wood burning stove, and that was

NOT a good idea!

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sharon Zakhour

Friday, November 09, 2007 11:33 AM

 

Re: fake or real?

 

Wow, Penny! Maybe it's a cultural thing, but most of us don't put our

pine tree in our couch! I wonder where that custom came from? :-D

 

Sharon

 

Penny French wrote:

> I honestly haven't considered it from the environmental angle, just from

my

> one and only experience with a " real " tree. I think I vacuumed pine

needles

> out of the couch for something like 2 years.

>

 

 

 

 

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I love the fake trees. Their arms are strong enough to hold most any size

ornaments and with us having ours up for 5-6 weeks, we don't have any wilt or

drying out to worry about. Also those fresh trees cost a lot and once you

spend the money on a pretty artifical tree you will have it for years to come,

with no extra expense each year. Ours are over 15 years old and still look

great!

 

Oh I love Christmas and all the decorations. My home has a touch of

Christmas in every room. Such a joyful time of year.

 

Love the Christmas music that is already playing in the stores.

 

Judy

 

 

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I always wait until 2 weeks before Christmas before getting my cut tree..That is

because I worry about fire..I also live in an area where they bring in fresh

cut, so I do get that and not one that has been sitting on the lot for a month..

We have started watching the Christmas movies, but I will wait until Dec. to

decorate..

Karen

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I generally use a fake tree. I tried a real one and it did not work for me. I

use hand painted ornaments on my tree. Some of which I have had since my

daughter was a baby. It is kind of like a family tradition.

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I totally agree with you! The silver trees were so cool when I was a

kid. My grandmother had one.

I bought one two years ago. It's amazing and even better than the

old ones.

I loooove my fake tree!!

 

 

Jill

 

P.S. Make sure to spring for a color-wheel too...totally completes

the retro look.

 

, Karen Lawver

<tifflawver wrote:

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> I remember those fake silver trees and liked them when I was

little. I recently saw that they still make them..I usually get a

real one, but maybe I will get a silver one:)

> Karen

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Jill,

Where did you get yours..I think my son would really like one...I have seen them

on the internet..Is your's a certain brand?

Karen

 

Mojo <mojovixen wrote: I totally

agree with you! The silver trees were so cool when I was a

kid. My grandmother had one.

I bought one two years ago. It's amazing and even better than the

old ones.

I loooove my fake tree!!

 

Jill

 

P.S. Make sure to spring for a color-wheel too...totally completes

the retro look.

 

, Karen Lawver

<tifflawver wrote:

>

> I remember those fake silver trees and liked them when I was

little. I recently saw that they still make them..I usually get a

real one, but maybe I will get a silver one:)

> Karen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 years ago, when I bought this wooded acre lot, I decided to do the old fashion

thing and cut down a tree out of my yard. We have lots of spruce trees and

one was even a nice shape. Hubby and I cut the tree and hauled it up the hill

to the house and let it stand in the garage overnight for all the snow to melt.

At this point of the story, I need a bit of explanation. For any of you who

don't know, I live in Alaska and it gets very cold and snowy outside during the

winter.

The next day I brought the tree into the house and cut off the top 5or 6

inches to make it fit. I decorated it and it was beautiful.

I was having lots of Christmas company and my out of state daughter and the

grand kids were coming, so I got the tree up a bit earlier than usual, probably

about the 10Th.

The day after Christmas we got up and noticed something different about the

tree. That silly tree did not know it was dead, because it had been dormant

when cut. After two weeks in the nice warm house with plenty of water, it was

trying to grow and filled the house with spruce pollen! Until that time, I

did not know that one of the seasonal allergies that plague me every spring was

spruce pollen! Oh was I sick. I got hives and rashes and an asthma attack,

too.

I learned my lesson. I only use an artificial tree now.

Katie

 

 

wwjd <jtwigg wrote:

 

I love the fake trees. Their arms are strong enough to hold most any size

ornaments and with us having ours up for 5-6 weeks, we don't have any wilt or

drying out to worry about. Also those fresh trees cost a lot and once you spend

the money on a pretty artifical tree you will have it for years to come, with no

extra expense each year. Ours are over 15 years old and still look great!

 

Oh I love Christmas and all the decorations. My home has a touch of Christmas in

every room. Such a joyful time of year.

 

Love the Christmas music that is already playing in the stores.

 

Judy

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I would love to invest in a fake tree to save trees plus help with my son's

allergies but I worry that it is such a tradition and the smell in the house is

so lovely. I hate the vacuuming for sure and the cost last year we paid $30 to

cut one down and it only lasts a couple weeks. But the tradition of it all my

kids take turns cutting down the tree and we always try to find one with a birds

nest in it for good luck. One year we saw a bunny under the tree. I'm such a

nature freak. If we had a place to plant a live tree I would do that in a

heartbeat even if it only lasted 10 days then again winter in December here in

Vermont well good luck digging a hole. Lots to think about It is a hard choice.

Thanks for all your stories they were great.

 

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I switched 2 years ago to a fake....4 ft prelit tree and I love it! I put it on

my cedar chest in the sunroom as really I don't have any good spot for it

otherwise. My DIL thinks all fake trees are ...just wrong but ....I love them.

THey are there when I am ready to put them up and they are great till I am ready

to take them down! we did go hunt down a tree for a few years wtih the kids and

that was fun too, but now we are mostly empty nesters and frankly, it usually

falls on mom to do it anyway, this way I dont have to be a martyr while I wait

for someone to go into the attic and haul down the stuff...i keep the tree IN

the cedar chest and all the ornaments in there too! perfect! ( martha stewart

k mart , oh and it has red berries and some frosting...it looks great till i get

the ornaments on! )

 

 

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akfral

Friday, November 09, 2007 1:35 PM

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My mom bought my littlest a 3' fake tree with lights 2 years ago when she

wanted a tree in the play area in the basement. My mom is a pretty indulgent

grandma.....last year we used it though because we were painting and all our

furniture was in the center of the room under a tarp, so we really didn't have

room to put up a tree.

This year we'll do both. amy

 

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We always got a real tree. About 3 years ago, we were about to leave to

" Christmas tree shop " and my youngest son told me that he thought he was

allergic to real trees in the house. That every year, he would have a sore,

scratchy throat and his eyes bothered him, but it would go away after we took

the tree down. Now I was feeling a bit unfit for not noticing this, but you

have to know my son...anyway, we got a fake tree that year. No allergic

symptoms and I love being able to put it up sooner and take it down when we

want.

 

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I too love a real tree and real garland in the house but we made the

switch a few years go to a georgous pre-lit tree too. No pine needles,

sap or watering, not nearly the fire hazard and the branches are

sturdier, the lights amazing..... We can now put it up the day after

Thanksgiving and it stays beautiful the entire time.

 

We also made the decision AFTER Christmas one year so were able to shop

the 75% off sales.... We bought a large one. The box is long and

heavy so keep that in mind for getting it home and storage.

 

No idea the pros and cons on environment?!

 

Val

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