Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 We have two - the OMEGA and the Champion juicer. Don't remember the prices of them but I love the OMEGA for every day use - carrot/celery/cabbage juice. The OMEGA came with a 10 year warranty. We use the Champion for banana ice cream. - " smartgirl27us " <thesmartfamily3 Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:58 PM Juicers > Anyone have a not-too-expensive juicer that they like? I want to get > my husband one for christmas but am limited to about $100-$125 max > and I know nothing about what juicers are crap and what ones are > decent. > > Rachael > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Rachael, I have heard that the Jack Lalanne one is awesome, I have a friend who has one and says it is incomparable, and look at Jack! He is like, a hundred and thirty four and he looks great!! He should know something about health, huh? I googled it and found www.jackspowerjuicer.com and www.jacklalanne.com has a lot of neat stuff too. I have healrd this one is good because it extracts the maximum amount of juice with little time and power, and the pulp left is dry, so you can use it in breads and other stuff. Good luck!! - Natalie smartgirl27us [thesmartfamily3] Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:59 PM Juicers Anyone have a not-too-expensive juicer that they like? I want to get my husband one for christmas but am limited to about $100-$125 max and I know nothing about what juicers are crap and what ones are decent. Rachael For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 The Green Power Juicer is one of the best on the market contact me at Alive and Raw I promise to send you lots of information and offer you the best price . Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Not only that, but you don't have to chop any of your fruits or veggies before juicing them - you can just put them in whole! Rinds and all! I'll be getting myself on of those juicers just as soon as I can talk DH into spending the $150. Maria Natalie Yarbrough <natalie wrote: Rachael, I have heard that the Jack Lalanne one is awesome, I have a friend who has one and says it is incomparable, and look at Jack! He is like, a hundred and thirty four and he looks great!! He should know something about health, huh? I googled it and found www.jackspowerjuicer.com and www.jacklalanne.com has a lot of neat stuff too. I have healrd this one is good because it extracts the maximum amount of juice with little time and power, and the pulp left is dry, so you can use it in breads and other stuff. Good luck!! - Natalie smartgirl27us [thesmartfamily3] Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:59 PM Juicers Anyone have a not-too-expensive juicer that they like? I want to get my husband one for christmas but am limited to about $100-$125 max and I know nothing about what juicers are crap and what ones are decent. Rachael For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hi, I have a Champion and love it...you might go online...a friend of mine found a new one for a very low price...Have a good day, Thecla - ronnie ricketts Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:30 AM juicers hello all. i don't post much,[sorry] because of busy life. and very old very slow computer. [hope that changes soon] well i have an off the shelf juicer and i cannot seem to do any good with the thing. i am wondering those high priced ones are any better? you know like these they sell on t.v. infommericals. i am sure someone has one thats a member here. ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Val, The only real drawbacks to the Green Power are that it's a real pain in the ass to clean up and it doesn't do fruit well at all. Other than that it's the best juicer I have used. I'm in the states so don't know about gst, etc. Regards, Paul vdube62 <vdube62 wrote: I came accross some info on jappliances and from what I have been able to gather, the green power machine seems to be the best for juicing and making nut butters, etc. Does someone have this juicer? If so, are you happy with it or would you get something else? I would like to get a really good one that can be used for many of the raw food preparations. What are your recommendations? I know this juicer is expensive. Is there anyone from Canada? If I were to get it here, it would be about $800.00. On one of the sites I could get one for $554.00 Canadian, shipped from the states, but I was wondering if i would have to pay gst and duty. TIA for your comments and suggestions! Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I have a Breville Juice Fountain Professional (not the " Elite " -- not sure what the differences are), and it is a GREAT juicer -- BUT it is not really suitable for wheatgrass juicing. I used to have a Greenstar, which was capable of juicing anything including wheatgrass, but it was such a pain to clean that I sold it and bought the Breville, which is much easier to use. And now I just get an occasional wheatgrass juice at my local juice bar. If I decide I really need to juice wheatgrass at home again, I will keep the Breville for everything else and will check into getting a hand-cranked wheatgrass juicer. Those look easier to maintain, are (I presume) much less expensive, and hey, save on electricity, too -- and since you don't need high speed to get juice out of wheatgrass, why not? Audie rawfood , " absolutebichon " <absolutebichon@a...> wrote: > > I have had a " Juiceman " juicer for about 15 years. While it has served > me well, it just doesn't seem to extract the juice as it used to. I am > considering moving to a Breville Juice Fountain Elite. I would like to > hear from anyone that has one of these, and if it does a good job with > Wheatgrass. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 rawfood , Jeanne DeHart <jcd572> wrote: > > I am going to get a vita-mix too. Do you think it matters which one? I saw some on ebay that were in numbers that arn't even offered anymore. Though this is one way to save some money up front (buying an older one), there is some risk, of course. For instance, my first (of two) Vitamixes was, I think, a 3600. I think I bought it in the early 1990s. It was great, though louder than the new ones, and also it only had two speeds (plus reverse), unlike the new ones that have a dial that you can turn to adjust the speed across a wide range, which I find handy. Though the motor was still going strong, some of the parts on the bottom of the pitcher broke after about 8 or 9 years of steady use, and even replacing the pitcher alone would have run me almost $100. They had (maybe still have) a trade-in policy if you're buying a complete new Vitamix, giving, I think, $75 credit on your returned old one if you buy a new one, so, for me, it seemed to make sense to just buy a new one, which I did. If you buy an older one on eBay and then you need a part at some point, replacing even that part may, combined with whatever you paid on eBay, be not that far off from the cost of a new (or rather reconditioned) one from Vitamix.com. On the other hand, if $300 is simply out of reach and you can get an older one on eBay for $50, it could be worth the risk. They, ARE, after all, quite durable machines, generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Well I don't know the numbers but I feel that it is helpful to have the one that you can ratchet up the speed slowly, so the stuff doesn't explode when you start. Lane - Jeanne DeHart rawfood Friday, January 06, 2006 6:37 PM [Raw Food] juicers I have the Champion Juicer. I have been using it for many years. Its so old in fact, that its bright yellow ( a popular color in the 70's) I am going to get a vita-mix too. Do you think it matters which one? I saw some on ebay that were in numbers that arn't even offered anymore. Costco sometimes has the 5000 ones too. I believe they are $300 there too. Everytime they go through town though, I don't happen to have $300! Jeanne DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Lynn said, " I wonder if there are different types of LaLane Juicers? I've had mine about a year and it is very easy to clean up. " I wonder the same thing. We got a LaLane juicer on sale, but it a major pain. I find it difficult to clean and it gets jammed up easily. I tend to forget I have it around. from Maida Citizens for Pets in Condos, http://www.petsincondos.org South Florida Vegetarian Events, http://www.soflavegevents.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I have a Green Life which I don’t use anymore. It is a Green Power without the attachments. Little used. Make me an offer. Mark 206-367-7605 _____ RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of MichelleMj Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:07 PM RawSeattle [RawSeattle] Juicers I don't know if I sent this correctly or not, so lets try again. I NEED HELP! I want to buy a Power Green Juicer and there are many different types and models and model numbers. I'm getting confused. My juicer just died (a Christmas gift that I knew wasn't appreciating the kale...) Does anyone have suggestions on where to buy and what model? I want it to come with all the attachments. Thank you! Tanya G -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.28/672 - Release 2/6/2007 10:22 AM -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.28/672 - Release 2/6/2007 10:22 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I have a champion. I love it and reccommend it. It has other parts just the Green Life. It's also cheaper than a green life. The chute hole is also bigger so you don't have to cut the pieces quite as small either. It's easy to assembly, it's easy to clean. I can make nut butters, ice cream, pasta, etc. I finally made my decision on a Champion because my friend had one and let me try it out. Hers is 20 years old and she has juiced with it almost continually the whole time with the exception of a few years here and there. I think she replaced the auger once. I am extremely happy with my own. It will never die........ -Cindy mkh <hovila wrote: I have a Green Life which I don’t use anymore. It is a Green Power without the attachments. Little used. Make me an offer. Mark 206-367-7605 _____ RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of MichelleMj Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:07 PM RawSeattle [RawSeattle] Juicers I don't know if I sent this correctly or not, so lets try again. I NEED HELP! I want to buy a Power Green Juicer and there are many different types and models and model numbers. I'm getting confused. My juicer just died (a Christmas gift that I knew wasn't appreciating the kale...) Does anyone have suggestions on where to buy and what model? I want it to come with all the attachments. Thank you! Tanya G -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.28/672 - Release 2/6/2007 10:22 AM -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.28/672 - Release 2/6/2007 10:22 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 The only thing about a Champion is it does not do greens well. Wheatgrass wraps around the shaft and leafy greens seem to just make green foam. I have one of each, GP and Champion. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 You're right about the greens. What I do to overcome this is I put something harder than the green in with it. So, if I am using kale, I put in a carrot, or apple or something like that at the same time. If I am using wheatgrass, I twist it and fold it in half and put it in with something harder than itself. Most of the time this works great, but there are a few exceptions when it does not work perfectly. But I am happy with my juice. SV <shavig wrote: The only thing about a Champion is it does not do greens well. Wheatgrass wraps around the shaft and leafy greens seem to just make green foam. I have one of each, GP and Champion. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 " What I do to overcome this is I put something harder than the green in with it. So, if I am using kale, I put in a carrot, or apple or something like that at the same time. " I noticed that with the juicer that I killed with the kale overage. I put in kale and then carrots and the green came out better. That poor juicer. It made such a horrible noise when the kale went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Similar to what has been said, I find the Green Star to work very well on a wide variety of greens and other fibrous food. It still works OK on apples and carrots (the basics), but soft fruit like pineapple will clog it right up. The Champion is a work horse. It does well with the standards, but chokes on greens and other fibrous veggies. When putting a food like carrots through both juicers, the Green Star will yield more juice, IMO. You can put pulp back through the Champion to get more juice. The Champion really pulverizes the food, as well as aerate it. The Green Star presses the juice without the high-speed " masticating " , so it is fresher, should retain more nutrients, and should last longer. I haven't tried the GS for frozen bananas. The Champion is the old stand-by for that. I have two Champions and one GS. Having one of each is the ideal (IMO), though not everyone can afford the $ or the space! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I didn't really like the site much - it seemed to have lots of pictures etc. and not much information. I think juicing is good as long as you don't overdo it. My nutritionist recommended one glass of juiced fruit and vegetables per day. Jo , Scott <hacktorious wrote: > > Boy, this stuff is complicated. Everyone has a different opinion. > Scroll down this page and check out what they say about juicers: > http://sitekreator.com/blindguru/index.html > > Seems to me they are just trying to push a new product or something. > > -- > Scott > www.HikeHaven.com > www.AntiFuel.com > > Minds are like parachutes, they only function when they are open. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are just trying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick to a healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets to eat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife! I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence that separating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies. When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it still contains the enzymes needed to digest the food. Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access to the nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, but many juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should we separate it out? Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh! I'm not so sure it's a good thing to break the cell wall, either. This is also why I don't believe in supplements. Supplements, separated from our foods, usually don't do much for us. There is little proof (if any) that they do. Again, without the symbiotic relationship the nutrients have with the whole food, they don't assimilate well or much in our bodies. A couple doctor-experts on this subject point out we just pee the supplements away. All the nutrition we need is in whole plant foods. We just need to vary what we eat, eat a wide spectrum of colors (various anti-oxidants), and avoid processing our foods too much. I guess I it makes sense to eat the way we did before food processing became standard practice. If we could all live surrounded by gardens and orchards, which grew the food we need to eat, and we could go out and pick it and eat it, that would be best. Second best is going to the Farmers Market and buying it. 3rd would be a grocery store, where the food was shipped from far away, it wasn't picked ripe and it's not fresh (and it increased your ecological footprint because it polluted the air while travelling to the store). Marcy - Scott Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:38 PM juicers Boy, this stuff is complicated. Everyone has a different opinion.Scroll down this page and check out what they say about juicers:http://sitekreator.com/blindguru/index.htmlSeems to me they are just trying to push a new product or something.-- Scottwww.HikeHaven.comwww.AntiFuel.comMinds are like parachutes, they only function when they are open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 You do have to admit that veggie drinks, fruit drinks, and smoothies are yummy though...........On 7/20/07, Marcy < imgreen03 wrote: Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are just trying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick to a healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets to eat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife! I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence that separating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies. When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it still contains the enzymes needed to digest the food. Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access to the nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, but many juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should we separate it out? Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh! I'm not so sure it's a good thing to break the cell wall, either. This is also why I don't believe in supplements. Supplements, separated from our foods, usually don't do much for us. There is little proof (if any) that they do. Again, without the symbiotic relationship the nutrients have with the whole food, they don't assimilate well or much in our bodies. A couple doctor-experts on this subject point out we just pee the supplements away. All the nutrition we need is in whole plant foods. We just need to vary what we eat, eat a wide spectrum of colors (various anti-oxidants), and avoid processing our foods too much. I guess I it makes sense to eat the way we did before food processing became standard practice. If we could all live surrounded by gardens and orchards, which grew the food we need to eat, and we could go out and pick it and eat it, that would be best. Second best is going to the Farmers Market and buying it. 3rd would be a grocery store, where the food was shipped from far away, it wasn't picked ripe and it's not fresh (and it increased your ecological footprint because it polluted the air while travelling to the store). Marcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Marcy, you make a lot of sense. , " Marcy " <imgreen03 wrote: > > Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are just trying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick to a healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets to eat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife! > > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence that separating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies. > > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it still contains the enzymes needed to digest the food. > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access to the nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, but many juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should we separate it out? > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks! Every once in a while I do that. I can't help but mention a few other points: If nature meant us to eat vitamins and to juice our produce, wouldn't we be picking vitamins off trees and sucking juice through a straw stuck into a tomato (you can substitute other fruit & veggies here)? If we were supposed to separate components of foods , why would nature produce it as a whole package? Ever notice that when you buy a whole piece of produce, it doesn't need a package? In fact, the whole food IS all the packaging you need for all the nutrients contained in that food. How efficient of nature! No need to throw packaging in the trash. - flower child Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:27 AM Re: juicers Marcy, you make a lot of sense. , "Marcy" <imgreen03 wrote:>> Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are justtrying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick toa healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets toeat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife!> > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence thatseparating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies.> > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it stillcontains the enzymes needed to digest the food. > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access tothe nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, butmany juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should weseparate it out? > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hi Marcy While the theory of what you say is absolutely true, there is a problem with the practice... with modern factory farming methods, most of our fruit and veg have around only one fiftieth of the nutrients that they had a century ago. Intensive farming basically depletes the ground of nutrients, and does not give it any time "lying fallow" to recouperate. So, in order to get all the nutrients we need, we need to do something other than just eating the fruit and veg in quantities which we would have done 100 years ago. Of course, the ideal situation would be to go back to a less intensive farming method, but until that happens... BB Peter - Marcy Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:27 PM Re: Re: juicers Thanks! Every once in a while I do that. I can't help but mention a few other points: If nature meant us to eat vitamins and to juice our produce, wouldn't we be picking vitamins off trees and sucking juice through a straw stuck into a tomato (you can substitute other fruit & veggies here)? If we were supposed to separate components of foods , why would nature produce it as a whole package? Ever notice that when you buy a whole piece of produce, it doesn't need a package? In fact, the whole food IS all the packaging you need for all the nutrients contained in that food. How efficient of nature! No need to throw packaging in the trash. - flower child Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:27 AM Re: juicers Marcy, you make a lot of sense. , "Marcy" <imgreen03 wrote:>> Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are justtrying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick toa healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets toeat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife!> > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence thatseparating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies.> > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it stillcontains the enzymes needed to digest the food. > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access tothe nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, butmany juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should weseparate it out? > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Yep, Peter, I see your point. That's one of the reasons I asked where everyone lives when I first joined this group. Here in the Bay Area, we are blesssed, absolutely blessed with wonderful Farmers Markets with locally and sustainably grown produce. We even can buy bread made with locally grown grain. I rarely eat produce from a grocery store any more. So, around here, lots of farmers are using what you refer to as less intensive methods, although, some would argue, to grow sustainably can be very intensive. Marcy - metalscarab Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:32 AM Re: Re: juicers Hi Marcy While the theory of what you say is absolutely true, there is a problem with the practice... with modern factory farming methods, most of our fruit and veg have around only one fiftieth of the nutrients that they had a century ago. Intensive farming basically depletes the ground of nutrients, and does not give it any time "lying fallow" to recouperate. So, in order to get all the nutrients we need, we need to do something other than just eating the fruit and veg in quantities which we would have done 100 years ago. Of course, the ideal situation would be to go back to a less intensive farming method, but until that happens... BB Peter - Marcy Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:27 PM Re: Re: juicers Thanks! Every once in a while I do that. I can't help but mention a few other points: If nature meant us to eat vitamins and to juice our produce, wouldn't we be picking vitamins off trees and sucking juice through a straw stuck into a tomato (you can substitute other fruit & veggies here)? If we were supposed to separate components of foods , why would nature produce it as a whole package? Ever notice that when you buy a whole piece of produce, it doesn't need a package? In fact, the whole food IS all the packaging you need for all the nutrients contained in that food. How efficient of nature! No need to throw packaging in the trash. - flower child Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:27 AM Re: juicers Marcy, you make a lot of sense. , "Marcy" <imgreen03 wrote:>> Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are justtrying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick toa healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets toeat healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife!> > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence thatseparating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies.> > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it stillcontains the enzymes needed to digest the food. > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access tothe nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, butmany juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should weseparate it out? > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 They are lovely. I like apple and carrot with a stick of celery in it. Jo , Scott <hacktorious wrote: > > You do have to admit that veggie drinks, fruit drinks, and smoothies are > yummy though........... > > On 7/20/07, Marcy <imgreen03 wrote: > > > > Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are just > > trying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick to a > > healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets to eat > > healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife! > > > > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence that > > separating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies. > > > > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it still contains the > > enzymes needed to digest the food. > > > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access to the > > nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, but many > > juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should we separate it > > out? > > > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh! > > > > I'm not so sure it's a good thing to break the cell wall, either. > > > > This is also why I don't believe in supplements. Supplements, separated > > from our foods, usually don't do much for us. There is little proof (if > > any) that they do. Again, without the symbiotic relationship the nutrients > > have with the whole food, they don't assimilate well or much in our bodies. > > A couple doctor-experts on this subject point out we just pee the > > supplements away. > > > > All the nutrition we need is in whole plant foods. We just need to vary > > what we eat, eat a wide spectrum of colors (various anti- oxidants), > > and avoid processing our foods too much. > > > > I guess I it makes sense to eat the way we did before food processing > > became standard practice. If we could all live surrounded by gardens and > > orchards, which grew the food we need to eat, and we could go out and pick > > it and eat it, that would be best. > > > > Second best is going to the Farmers Market and buying it. 3rd would be a > > grocery store, where the food was shipped from far away, it wasn't picked > > ripe and it's not fresh (and it increased your ecological footprint because > > it polluted the air while travelling to the store). > > > > Marcy > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I agree! But I put my juicer up high in a closet when I got my Vitamix... Yes, I know they're expensive, but I was lucky enough to snag one for free and use it just about every day. Instead of my morning cup of joe, I have a green smoothie - some water, an apple, a banana, some ground flax seed and whatever greens I have on hand (romaine lettuce, spinach, collard greens, parsley...) Any other good smoothie recipes out there? Jolene , Scott <hacktorious wrote: > > You do have to admit that veggie drinks, fruit drinks, and smoothies are > yummy though........... > > On 7/20/07, Marcy <imgreen03 wrote: > > > > Scott, I believe you are onto something when you say they are just > > trying to sell something. Another gimmick to help us humans stick to a > > healthier diet! I don't think we need any gimmicks or gadgets to eat > > healthy. Just a couple tools, like a sharp knife! > > > > I believe it's best to eat our foods whole. There is evidence that > > separating components of foods out renders them less useful to our bodies. > > > > When a food is whole, the way it was intended to be, it still contains the > > enzymes needed to digest the food. > > > > Juicing is supposed to break down the cell walls to allow access to the > > nutrients inside the cell. This sounds like it makes sense, but many > > juicers separate the fiber. If we need the fiber, why should we separate it > > out? > > > > Then, some people add fiber to their diet! Jeeeesh! > > > > I'm not so sure it's a good thing to break the cell wall, either. > > > > This is also why I don't believe in supplements. Supplements, separated > > from our foods, usually don't do much for us. There is little proof (if > > any) that they do. Again, without the symbiotic relationship the nutrients > > have with the whole food, they don't assimilate well or much in our bodies. > > A couple doctor-experts on this subject point out we just pee the > > supplements away. > > > > All the nutrition we need is in whole plant foods. We just need to vary > > what we eat, eat a wide spectrum of colors (various anti- oxidants), > > and avoid processing our foods too much. > > > > I guess I it makes sense to eat the way we did before food processing > > became standard practice. If we could all live surrounded by gardens and > > orchards, which grew the food we need to eat, and we could go out and pick > > it and eat it, that would be best. > > > > Second best is going to the Farmers Market and buying it. 3rd would be a > > grocery store, where the food was shipped from far away, it wasn't picked > > ripe and it's not fresh (and it increased your ecological footprint because > > it polluted the air while travelling to the store). > > > > Marcy > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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