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I know this has little to do with yummy vegetarian food but I am dying to know

how everyone survives this time of year? It is such a beautiful time but I can

never slow down to enjoy it because I am too busy running up the credit cards,

rushing through the stores and making cookies for everyone and their mother.

One thing we did do is buy an artificial tree mainly because of my son's

allergies but man although I was heartbroken to lose the tradition of cutting

down a tree and hand stringing the lights I am so much more at peace knowing it

took 5 minutes to put up and 20 to decorate and now I can enjoy it, stress free.

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

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Well Steph,

I don't have a single credit card.I do my shopping at my local thrift

store saving lots of money and helping give jobs to people who are

physically and mentally challenged. I gift the church food bank with

all manner of food in my grandchildren's names so we can give to

others in need. I don't make cookies..Everyone is dieting..LOL. We

create gift baskets with homemade canned veggies and sauces that we

made months ago. Our artificial trees are decorated with hand crafted

decorations that we have saved for many years. Some of the grand

children are busy creating new ones this season. We are watching very

old favorite Christmas videos and DVDs and playing older Holiday

music. One of these evenings we will all catch the Christmas Train

and take a rail trip just outside our town and back. At $3 per person

it is a fun inexpensive very fun ride. Some of our friends and

relatives are in Iraq this holiday season, so most of our thoughts

are with them, praying they will be home with us next Christmas.

Make a rewarding, peaceful day

Deanna in Colorado

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> I know this has little to do with yummy vegetarian food but I am

dying to know how everyone survives this time of year? It is such a

beautiful time but I can never slow down to enjoy it because I am too

busy running up the credit cards, rushing through the stores and

making cookies for everyone and their mother.

> One thing we did do is buy an artificial tree mainly because of

my son's allergies but man although I was heartbroken to lose the

tradition of cutting down a tree and hand stringing the lights I am

so much more at peace knowing it took 5 minutes to put up and 20 to

decorate and now I can enjoy it, stress free.

>

>

> =^.^= Steph

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I have a gift giving drawer. It is easy for me to find things for special loved

ones throughout the year. Many times the items are on sale. I have baked 23

loaves of sweet bread since Saturday. All in the freezer and ready to deliver

soon. Fig bread for one doctor, the librarians like banana bread, one cashier

likes cardamom bread and the list goes on and on. Now I have to get my poor

sore hands ready to bake again this weekend.

I don't go into debt, if I don't have it I don't spend it on credit cards.

Those are strictly for emergency, unexpected car repair, that type thing.

Donna

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Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:21:04

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right Linda.

who would want you to spend money on them if you don't have it?

great idea about the gift giving drawer, I am gonnna do that.

hugs,

Chanda

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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:59 AM

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I may sound crazy but I am here to say you dont have to do that debt thing.

 

Giving gifts when you are in debt doesnt make sense. The people who you give to

would not want a gift if they felt it was putting your further and further

behind financially. If you can use one season to turn it around, you can start

off fresh. One way to do this is to bake cookies or give service coupons as

gifts to everyone you know. If you need to you can be humble and say something

that helps them understand your situation. Then you start in about February

buying gifts for next year , start a gift closet or drawer. You can get your

gifts for next year all at greatly reduced prices....sometimes up to 90% off.

When you find something wonderful, buy several at that price. I do not think the

reason for the season ( the Savior of the world! ) would really want us to be

putting our families finacial life at risk for giving gifts supposedly in his

name...its just not what its all about!

 

you can have plastic surgery and cut up those cards a la Dave Ramsey.

 

my sister in law was buying gifts when they were going bankrupt. Its humbling

but there is no reason to go in debt for gifts. going in debt can wind up

robbing you of a lot of things besides money...peace, joy, contentment, and if

taken to the extreme ( bankruptcy) it involves robbing alot of other people.

 

fight the feelings of having to spend beyond your means today.

you will like it better if you don't!

 

trust me! its better to always spend less than you earn, and save some every

pay period. You need a cushion for the days ahead.

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Steph

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Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:23 AM

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Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

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In a message dated 12/5/2007 11:31:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lindandy writes:

 

I shop with people in mind ,but also for those weddings, and babies that are

coming up all the time, or those that all the sudden are in need of

something.

 

 

I do this with my knitting. I had some good baby yarn so I made a unisex

blanket, ready for the next pregnant friend. I also make dishrags pretty

regularly, & scarves. I'm getting ready to knit up a bunch of chemo caps and

maybe

some mittens for the local shelters. Amy

 

 

 

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I may sound crazy but I am here to say you dont have to do that debt thing.

 

Giving gifts when you are in debt doesnt make sense. The people who you give to

would not want a gift if they felt it was putting your further and further

behind financially. If you can use one season to turn it around, you can start

off fresh. One way to do this is to bake cookies or give service coupons as

gifts to everyone you know. If you need to you can be humble and say something

that helps them understand your situation. Then you start in about February

buying gifts for next year , start a gift closet or drawer. You can get your

gifts for next year all at greatly reduced prices....sometimes up to 90% off.

When you find something wonderful, buy several at that price. I do not think

the reason for the season ( the Savior of the world! ) would really want us to

be putting our families finacial life at risk for giving gifts supposedly in his

name...its just not what its all about!

 

you can have plastic surgery and cut up those cards a la Dave Ramsey.

 

my sister in law was buying gifts when they were going bankrupt. Its humbling

but there is no reason to go in debt for gifts. going in debt can wind up

robbing you of a lot of things besides money...peace, joy, contentment, and if

taken to the extreme ( bankruptcy) it involves robbing alot of other people.

 

fight the feelings of having to spend beyond your means today.

you will like it better if you don't!

 

trust me! its better to always spend less than you earn, and save some every pay

period. You need a cushion for the days ahead.

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Steph

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:23 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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right Linda.

who would want you to spend money on them if you don't have it?

great idea about the gift giving drawer, I am gonnna do that.

hugs,

Chanda

-

Linda Jackson

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:59 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

I may sound crazy but I am here to say you dont have to do that debt thing.

 

Giving gifts when you are in debt doesnt make sense. The people who you give

to would not want a gift if they felt it was putting your further and further

behind financially. If you can use one season to turn it around, you can start

off fresh. One way to do this is to bake cookies or give service coupons as

gifts to everyone you know. If you need to you can be humble and say something

that helps them understand your situation. Then you start in about February

buying gifts for next year , start a gift closet or drawer. You can get your

gifts for next year all at greatly reduced prices....sometimes up to 90% off.

When you find something wonderful, buy several at that price. I do not think the

reason for the season ( the Savior of the world! ) would really want us to be

putting our families finacial life at risk for giving gifts supposedly in his

name...its just not what its all about!

 

you can have plastic surgery and cut up those cards a la Dave Ramsey.

 

my sister in law was buying gifts when they were going bankrupt. Its humbling

but there is no reason to go in debt for gifts. going in debt can wind up

robbing you of a lot of things besides money...peace, joy, contentment, and if

taken to the extreme ( bankruptcy) it involves robbing alot of other people.

 

fight the feelings of having to spend beyond your means today.

you will like it better if you don't!

 

trust me! its better to always spend less than you earn, and save some every

pay period. You need a cushion for the days ahead.

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Steph

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:23 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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Linda this is very wise advise that you've given. It is so important to not go

into debt.

 

We completely pay off our credit cards each month and they make no interest on

us. We use Discover to make cash back and GM to make money towards our next

vehicle purchase. So far we have $5000 to go towards one when we buy it. They

keep it as a bonus on our card for when we decide to purchase a GM vehicle.

 

The day after Thanksgiving, my husband and daughters went shopping. They said

that almost everything they bought was 50-80 % off. The stores had huge sales

that day. They bought most of our Christmas then. We let them pick out

clothes they want, since they have gotten much more particular in their likes

and dislikes as teens.

They enjoy getting to pick these out. It is part of the fun of the season for

them.

 

Have a wonderful Christmas all,

Judy

 

 

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Linda Jackson

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:59 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

I may sound crazy but I am here to say you dont have to do that debt thing.

 

Giving gifts when you are in debt doesnt make sense. The people who you give

to would not want a gift if they felt it was putting your further and further

behind financially. If you can use one season to turn it around, you can start

off fresh. One way to do this is to bake cookies or give service coupons as

gifts to everyone you know. If you need to you can be humble and say something

that helps them understand your situation. Then you start in about February

buying gifts for next year , start a gift closet or drawer. You can get your

gifts for next year all at greatly reduced prices....sometimes up to 90% off.

When you find something wonderful, buy several at that price. I do not think the

reason for the season ( the Savior of the world! ) would really want us to be

putting our families finacial life at risk for giving gifts supposedly in his

name...its just not what its all about!

 

you can have plastic surgery and cut up those cards a la Dave Ramsey.

 

my sister in law was buying gifts when they were going bankrupt. Its humbling

but there is no reason to go in debt for gifts. going in debt can wind up

robbing you of a lot of things besides money...peace, joy, contentment, and if

taken to the extreme ( bankruptcy) it involves robbing alot of other people.

 

fight the feelings of having to spend beyond your means today.

you will like it better if you don't!

 

trust me! its better to always spend less than you earn, and save some every

pay period. You need a cushion for the days ahead.

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Steph

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:23 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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its FUN actually, because you get to buy when you arent stressed and when you

have the funds and without the crowds...and then when you need something you

have it. I shop with people in mind ,but also for those weddings, and babies

that are coming up all the time, or those that all the sudden are in need of

something. My mom did this too!

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Puterwitch

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:21 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

right Linda.

who would want you to spend money on them if you don't have it?

great idea about the gift giving drawer, I am gonnna do that.

hugs,

Chanda

-

Linda Jackson

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:59 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

I may sound crazy but I am here to say you dont have to do that debt thing.

 

Giving gifts when you are in debt doesnt make sense. The people who you give

to would not want a gift if they felt it was putting your further and further

behind financially. If you can use one season to turn it around, you can start

off fresh. One way to do this is to bake cookies or give service coupons as

gifts to everyone you know. If you need to you can be humble and say something

that helps them understand your situation. Then you start in about February

buying gifts for next year , start a gift closet or drawer. You can get your

gifts for next year all at greatly reduced prices....sometimes up to 90% off.

When you find something wonderful, buy several at that price. I do not think the

reason for the season ( the Savior of the world! ) would really want us to be

putting our families finacial life at risk for giving gifts supposedly in his

name...its just not what its all about!

 

you can have plastic surgery and cut up those cards a la Dave Ramsey.

 

my sister in law was buying gifts when they were going bankrupt. Its humbling

but there is no reason to go in debt for gifts. going in debt can wind up

robbing you of a lot of things besides money...peace, joy, contentment, and if

taken to the extreme ( bankruptcy) it involves robbing alot of other people.

 

fight the feelings of having to spend beyond your means today.

you will like it better if you don't!

 

trust me! its better to always spend less than you earn, and save some every

pay period. You need a cushion for the days ahead.

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

-

Steph

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:23 AM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Deanna,

That sounds like a wonderful way to spend the holidays. I get so overwelmed

with the weddings, birthdays and gifts that are needed for the season. I wish we

would have never got credit cards because when we didn't have one we were

creative but now the holidays are so stressful knowing I will still be paying

for gifts that I bought in December in July.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

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I have to agree. If you do not worry about your debt who will????? My

children are grown and I am now retired. I have a charge card but only charge

what I can pay at the end of the month. The interest charges will KILL you.

I think especially now, with the economy what it is, we need to be very, very

careful.

 

Good for you if you are staying within your budget.

 

in Northern Illinois

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Linda,

I 110% agree with you. We got a credit card for emergencies like medical and

transportation but this time of year is ridiculous. My step-mother chewed me out

for getting her kids $20 gift cards and one year only an assortment of cookies

(I spent hours making those things). She said I should buy something nice for

them and not worry about the debt. I told her in our house our kids come first

and we save all year for them. She buys way too much for us and the kids and

most goes to Sally Anns. You are right about the reason for the season it is

suppose to be a spiritual time and it ends up being a spending and stressful

one. I loved your idea about buying though out the year. I say every year I will

do that but my kids change their minds so much. Have a nice one.

 

 

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wellllllllll I am not sure my kids always got their fondest wish for Christmas

but they always seemed content. Big ticket items that they wanted we just

encouraged them to work and save and buy themselves. One year the kids and i

made 100's of suckers and they sold them around the neighborhoods ...they made

enough money to buy scooters and my daughter bought a double cassette player!

 

if you have people telling you don't worry about the debt...well, just let it

roll off like a duck since ....its your financial health you are in charge

of...you can't please all of the people all of the time, and some people...well,

some are just never pleased and so you have to say OH WELL!

 

its nice to be my age and finally be letting go of alot of stinking thinking

about what other people think. Be true to your values . ...and be happy! sounds

like you are! What is Salley Ann's?

 

every year I have been toiling over a big Christmas letter to a big list of

people. This year, not every year, but this year, I am just sending one out

when I receive one. My list has gotten way too bulky with people who do not

respond anyway. I will still send to those who truly care but cannnot afford

and cant for anotehr reason send cards. time to trim my list!

 

its being fun to do it this way actually. ANd I am having more time to write

little thankyou, thinking of you cards to people who I want to as I go along.

With the Christmas cards!

 

my son is bringing home his girlfriend after Chrsitmas....I think she is semi

vegetarian ( her mom was raised jewish) and so the list is giving me some great

ideas.

 

Linda

" Controlling the minor details of your own life will have a ripple effect to

the far reaches of your universe. Big things fall into place if you take small

steps along the way. "

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Steph

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:29 PM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

Linda,

I 110% agree with you. We got a credit card for emergencies like medical and

transportation but this time of year is ridiculous. My step-mother chewed me out

for getting her kids $20 gift cards and one year only an assortment of cookies

(I spent hours making those things). She said I should buy something nice for

them and not worry about the debt. I told her in our house our kids come first

and we save all year for them. She buys way too much for us and the kids and

most goes to Sally Anns. You are right about the reason for the season it is

suppose to be a spiritual time and it ends up being a spending and stressful

one. I loved your idea about buying though out the year. I say every year I will

do that but my kids change their minds so much. Have a nice one.

 

=^.^= Steph

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Personally, I think gift cards are wonderful for kids once they get past the

toy stage. Teens are so hard to buy for in the first place. Unless you're

with them all the time, you don't know what they like in the way of clothes,

music, movies, and their tastes change constantly. With a gift card for

that age, at least they can go and pick out something they actually like!

My ex-in-laws were always getting me and my kids stuff that we absolutely

hated. Their taste in things is completely different from ours, and

honestly, we would have much preferred to have the money they spent on

things that got stuck in closets and eventually given away or thrown away to

get things we actually wanted.

 

----

 

Steph

12/5/2007 12:29:12 PM

 

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Linda,

I 110% agree with you. We got a credit card for emergencies like medical

and transportation but this time of year is ridiculous. My step-mother

chewed me out for getting her kids $20 gift cards and one year only an

assortment of cookies (I spent hours making those things). She said I should

buy something nice for them and not worry about the debt. I told her in our

house our kids come first and we save all year for them. She buys way too

much for us and the kids and most goes to Sally Anns. You are right about

the reason for the season it is suppose to be a spiritual time and it ends

up being a spending and stressful one. I loved your idea about buying though

out the year. I say every year I will do that but my kids change their minds

so much. Have a nice one.

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

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I agree. My mom has completely different tastes than I do and I'm thankful that

about 10 years ago, she started just giving us money. The kids enjoy having it

to spend on things they really want. I do that with my nieces and nephews too

and they love it. They enjoy catching after after Christmas sales.

 

We used to exchange with extended family, but then it got to be that you were

spending all your time shopping and no time to just relax and enjoy this

wonderful season. Money I think is always appreciated.

 

Judy

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Penny French

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:30 PM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

Personally, I think gift cards are wonderful for kids once they get past the

toy stage. Teens are so hard to buy for in the first place. Unless you're

with them all the time, you don't know what they like in the way of clothes,

music, movies, and their tastes change constantly. With a gift card for

that age, at least they can go and pick out something they actually like!

My ex-in-laws were always getting me and my kids stuff that we absolutely

hated. Their taste in things is completely different from ours, and

honestly, we would have much preferred to have the money they spent on

things that got stuck in closets and eventually given away or thrown away to

get things we actually wanted.

 

----

 

Steph

12/5/2007 12:29:12 PM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Linda,

I 110% agree with you. We got a credit card for emergencies like medical

and transportation but this time of year is ridiculous. My step-mother

chewed me out for getting her kids $20 gift cards and one year only an

assortment of cookies (I spent hours making those things). She said I should

buy something nice for them and not worry about the debt. I told her in our

house our kids come first and we save all year for them. She buys way too

much for us and the kids and most goes to Sally Anns. You are right about

the reason for the season it is suppose to be a spiritual time and it ends

up being a spending and stressful one. I loved your idea about buying though

out the year. I say every year I will do that but my kids change their minds

so much. Have a nice one.

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

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My mom usually sends us gift cards to Walmart - always a good thing because

I can use it for whatever we need, if we happen to be in dire need at the

time. My son is disappointed that I bought a copy of " Wicked " for myself,

he was planning on getting it for me. I told him I'd rather he wait until

after Christmas when Walmart marks all the special stuff down 50% or more

and try to get me a new full-body massager with heat. I got one two years

ago and finally burned up the motor in it. But with arthritis and

fibromyalgia all over my entire body, it's a godsend to me. That would be

something that would be used on a regular basis and so appreciated. Now, he

s spent the afternoon with his sister, so who knows if they're cooking

something up. I'm glad they're close, but sometimes...!

 

----

 

wwjd

12/5/2007 5:40:05 PM

 

Re: Holiday Question

 

I agree. My mom has completely different tastes than I do and I'm thankful

that about 10 years ago, she started just giving us money. The kids enjoy

having it to spend on things they really want. I do that with my nieces and

nephews too and they love it. They enjoy catching after after Christmas

sales.

 

We used to exchange with extended family, but then it got to be that you

were spending all your time shopping and no time to just relax and enjoy

this wonderful season. Money I think is always appreciated.

 

Judy

-

Penny French

Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:30 PM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

 

Personally, I think gift cards are wonderful for kids once they get past

the

toy stage. Teens are so hard to buy for in the first place. Unless you're

with them all the time, you don't know what they like in the way of

clothes,

music, movies, and their tastes change constantly. With a gift card for

that age, at least they can go and pick out something they actually like!

My ex-in-laws were always getting me and my kids stuff that we absolutely

hated. Their taste in things is completely different from ours, and

honestly, we would have much preferred to have the money they spent on

things that got stuck in closets and eventually given away or thrown away

to

get things we actually wanted.

 

----

 

Steph

12/5/2007 12:29:12 PM

Re: Re: Holiday Question

 

Linda,

I 110% agree with you. We got a credit card for emergencies like medical

and transportation but this time of year is ridiculous. My step-mother

chewed me out for getting her kids $20 gift cards and one year only an

assortment of cookies (I spent hours making those things). She said I

should

buy something nice for them and not worry about the debt. I told her in

our

house our kids come first and we save all year for them. She buys way too

much for us and the kids and most goes to Sally Anns. You are right about

the reason for the season it is suppose to be a spiritual time and it ends

up being a spending and stressful one. I loved your idea about buying

though

out the year. I say every year I will do that but my kids change their

minds

so much. Have a nice one.

 

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

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