Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses, my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I need to buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on. " chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes " this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use these products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Anouk Sickler wrote: > i have not check in a while, > the flu came to my house. > > anyway my question is > I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses, > > my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I need > to buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on. > " chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes " > > this is not the first time she has mentioned it. > > I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use these > products? Yes. What do you think organic gardeners use for fertilizer? serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 sorry serene....technically, if it came from animal, it can't be vegan... wot farmers do out in the field, i really can't have control over..but wot i do in my own garden, i have 100% control over(exept for pollution, neighbors, wandering cats, skylab falling on it, etc) there are a number of vegan fertilizers on the market, if you need t o go the pre-packaged root... er, you can do any number of other things.... green manures kitchen and yard compost worm vermiculture companion plantings compost teas etc and so forth >Serene <serene >Apr 3, 2006 1:56 PM > >Re: man >Yes. What do you think organic gardeners use for fertilizer? > >serene > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 fraggle wrote: > sorry serene....technically, if it came from animal, it can't be vegan... That's just silly. We're not EATING the manure. Worm vermiculture is vegan? serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 yer not eating leather, fur coats, er musks either... milk based paints isinglass in english beers(you technically aren't drining it...) non vegetable based candles hand creams shampoos feather pillows/mattresses etc and so forth i would guess vermiculture is one of those gray areas of veganism.... are you exploiting the worm keepin them in a bin under the kitchen sink so they can eat yer scraps??? i guess it depends on how far you take yer veganny steps.... >Serene <serene >Apr 3, 2006 2:18 PM > >Re: manure? > >fraggle wrote: >> sorry serene....technically, if it came from animal, it can't be vegan... > >That's just silly. We're not EATING the manure. > >Worm vermiculture is vegan? > >serene > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Serene > > sorry serene....technically, if it came from animal, it can't be vegan... > That's just silly. We're not EATING the manure. Since when was veganism restricted to what we eat? BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Thanks! , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > yer not eating leather, fur coats, er musks either... > milk based paints > isinglass in english beers(you technically aren't drining it...) > non vegetable based candles > hand creams > shampoos > feather pillows/mattresses > etc and so forth > > > i would guess vermiculture is one of those gray areas of veganism.... > are you exploiting the worm keepin them in a bin under the kitchen sink so they can eat yer scraps??? > i guess it depends on how far you take yer veganny steps.... > > > >Serene <serene > >Apr 3, 2006 2:18 PM > > > >Re: manure? > > > >fraggle wrote: > >> sorry serene....technically, if it came from animal, it can't be vegan... > > > >That's just silly. We're not EATING the manure. > > > >Worm vermiculture is vegan? > > > >serene > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 organic gardeners use animal product like manure. better is veganic gardening which doesn't, but uses composts, vegetable nutrients, and mulches etc. instead of. i have been a veganic gardener for at least 10 years. though i think it is acceptable to use a dead animal for compost that has died naturally... peace colin - Anouk Sickler Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:10 AM manure? i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses,my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I needto buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on."chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes" this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use theseproducts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 hi peter, i think I see serene's point of view, if I had a chicken santuary were chickens would be rescued, then I probably wouldn't mind using their poop to fertilize my tomatoes. I would ask them first of course heee heee. although, i don't know seems kinda gross. come to think of it my dog sometimes fertilizes my front lawn. , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Serene > > > That's just silly. We're not EATING the manure. > > Since when was veganism restricted to what we eat? > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 I doubt it as it is an animal by-product, and probably comes from a farm where the animals are being enslaved and exploited.Unfortunately traditionally gardening has always involved poultry manure/horse or cow manure, as well as such "goodies" as blood fish and bone etc! A good fertiliser ( if used sparingly ) is seaweed fertiliser. Liquid seaweed fertiliser This is one of the best organic fertilisers you can get. It's made up of lovely seaweed found in colder seaside climates, not the grassy trash around here. It's fantastic not so much for NPK, but for the micronutrients and trace elements not often found in most of the fertilisers above. We use a capful of concentrated seaweed fertiliser with a litre of water to dilute it. Sprayed onto the leaves early in the morning it is absorbed to give a real boost. You can also give a bit of a spray at ground level onto the mulch where it will eventually seep down to the roots. One fertiliser you've got to have. The Valley Vegan............ Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses,my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I needto buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on."chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes" this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use theseproducts?To send an email to - Links<*> /<*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 My favourite is nettles. Pulled up and put in a bucket - boiling water poured on them and then left for a few days until they stink like mad. Makes a very good fertiliser. Jo - peter hurd Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:43 PM Re: manure? I doubt it as it is an animal by-product, and probably comes from a farm where the animals are being enslaved and exploited.Unfortunately traditionally gardening has always involved poultry manure/horse or cow manure, as well as such "goodies" as blood fish and bone etc! A good fertiliser ( if used sparingly ) is seaweed fertiliser. Liquid seaweed fertiliser This is one of the best organic fertilisers you can get. It's made up of lovely seaweed found in colder seaside climates, not the grassy trash around here. It's fantastic not so much for NPK, but for the micronutrients and trace elements not often found in most of the fertilisers above. We use a capful of concentrated seaweed fertiliser with a litre of water to dilute it. Sprayed onto the leaves early in the morning it is absorbed to give a real boost. You can also give a bit of a spray at ground level onto the mulch where it will eventually seep down to the roots. One fertiliser you've got to have. The Valley Vegan............ Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses,my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I needto buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on."chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes" this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use theseproducts?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Do you also eat the young tips? The Valley Vegan..............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: My favourite is nettles. Pulled up and put in a bucket - boiling water poured on them and then left for a few days until they stink like mad. Makes a very good fertiliser. Jo - peter hurd Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:43 PM Re: manure? I doubt it as it is an animal by-product, and probably comes from a farm where the animals are being enslaved and exploited.Unfortunately traditionally gardening has always involved poultry manure/horse or cow manure, as well as such "goodies" as blood fish and bone etc! A good fertiliser ( if used sparingly ) is seaweed fertiliser. Liquid seaweed fertiliser This is one of the best organic fertilisers you can get. It's made up of lovely seaweed found in colder seaside climates, not the grassy trash around here. It's fantastic not so much for NPK, but for the micronutrients and trace elements not often found in most of the fertilisers above. We use a capful of concentrated seaweed fertiliser with a litre of water to dilute it. Sprayed onto the leaves early in the morning it is absorbed to give a real boost. You can also give a bit of a spray at ground level onto the mulch where it will eventually seep down to the roots. One fertiliser you've got to have. The Valley Vegan............ Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses,my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I needto buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on."chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes" this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use theseproducts?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Occasionally - I'm growing a special crop for that this year - and a crop for the caterpillar's/butterflies. Jo - peter hurd Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:24 PM Re: manure? Do you also eat the young tips? The Valley Vegan..............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: My favourite is nettles. Pulled up and put in a bucket - boiling water poured on them and then left for a few days until they stink like mad. Makes a very good fertiliser. Jo - peter hurd Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:43 PM Re: manure? I doubt it as it is an animal by-product, and probably comes from a farm where the animals are being enslaved and exploited.Unfortunately traditionally gardening has always involved poultry manure/horse or cow manure, as well as such "goodies" as blood fish and bone etc! A good fertiliser ( if used sparingly ) is seaweed fertiliser. Liquid seaweed fertiliser This is one of the best organic fertilisers you can get. It's made up of lovely seaweed found in colder seaside climates, not the grassy trash around here. It's fantastic not so much for NPK, but for the micronutrients and trace elements not often found in most of the fertilisers above. We use a capful of concentrated seaweed fertiliser with a litre of water to dilute it. Sprayed onto the leaves early in the morning it is absorbed to give a real boost. You can also give a bit of a spray at ground level onto the mulch where it will eventually seep down to the roots. One fertiliser you've got to have. The Valley Vegan............ Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: i have not check in a while, the flu came to my house. anyway my question is I was gardening outside, removing some leaves from my roses,my neighbor walks by who is a bit nosey, keeps telling me that I needto buy cow manure, horse manure, chicken manure, and so on."chicken manure did wonders for my tomatoes" this is not the first time she has mentioned it. I don't know a lot about gardening, but is it vegan to use theseproducts?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Jo > My favourite is nettles. I think we've now topped the list for bizarre conversations.... "my favourite manure" ;-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Peter LOL. It is important though, even though it is a strange conversation piece :-) BBJo - Peter Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:31 PM Re: manure? Hi Jo > My favourite is nettles. I think we've now topped the list for bizarre conversations.... "my favourite manure" ;-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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