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hi peter,

 

scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in

the uk.

 

I have an old book from 1884, which I found in the garbage of an

old man who died in my mom's building in NYc, It smells like an old book.

 

if I am allowed to be materialistic for a moment.. It is

one of my most prized possesions.

 

it is an encyclopedia called Chambers from Edinburgh.

 

Defines Americanism as (i am copying from the book)

as peculiarities in words and phrases not current in England.

book-store for Book Sellers Shop is a corruption. 'It would hardly be

an exageration to say that every person has his own private

vocabulary'. There is harldy any recognized

standard of speech. The verb To Fix, is made to do duty for

expressing every conceivable kind of action. The vague use of this

word is common all over the union but in the West the abuse is carried

to the extreme.

 

 

I find this funny. :)

 

 

, " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab

wrote:

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> Hi Anouk

>

> There's also a scheme in the UK (so I assume other places as well),

where

> you can donate old phones for use in 3rd world countries :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

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Hi Anouk

 

>scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in>the uk.

 

Why? What connotations does it have in the US?

 

>Defines Americanism as (i am copying from the book)

 

What a fantastic definition.... I think I may have to get this framed :-)

 

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A scheme here generally refers to a sneaky or secret plan of some sort....

something not generally on the up and up, er are shifty, fly by night, not authorized or wise, etc

 

you have things like get rich quick schemes

Peter Kebbell May 2, 2006 9:16 AM Re: Re: recycling old cell phones

Hi Anouk

 

>scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in>the uk.

 

Why? What connotations does it have in the US?

 

>Defines Americanism as (i am copying from the book)

 

What a fantastic definition.... I think I may have to get this framed :-)

 

BB

Peter To send an email to -

 

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Hi Fraggle

 

> A scheme here generally refers to a sneaky or secret plan of some sort....

>something not generally on the up and up, er are shifty, fly by night, not authorized or wise, etc

>you have things like get rich quick schemes

 

I see.... geez, you folks sure have messed about with the language ;-)

 

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well, ya'll weren't using it.......

:)

Peter May 3, 2006 12:07 PM Re: Re: recycling old cell phones

 

Hi Fraggle

 

> A scheme here generally refers to a sneaky or secret plan of some sort....

>something not generally on the up and up, er are shifty, fly by night, not authorized or wise, etc

>you have things like get rich quick schemes

 

I see.... geez, you folks sure have messed about with the language ;-)

 

BB

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hi peter,

 

scheme is interchangeable with scam or planned trick. especially in

nyc, where

I am originaly from,

they say something, like

 

so and so had a scheme of selling used

cellphones on the street to people and passing them of as new.

 

 

 

 

, " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab

wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk

>

> >scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in

> >the uk.

>

> Why? What connotations does it have in the US?

>

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As in the Oxford English Dictionary - why have Americans chosen the second

meaning?

 

Jo

 

scheme

 

. noun 1 a systematic plan or arrangement for achieving a particular

object or effect. 2 a secret or underhand plan; a plot. 3 a particular

ordered system or pattern: a classical rhyme scheme.

 

 

-

" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:58 PM

Re: recycling old cell phones

 

 

hi peter,

 

scheme is interchangeable with scam or planned trick. especially in

nyc, where

I am originaly from,

they say something, like

 

so and so had a scheme of selling used

cellphones on the street to people and passing them of as new.

 

 

 

 

, " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab

wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk

>

> >scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in

> >the uk.

>

> Why? What connotations does it have in the US?

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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languages grow and change in time

nuthin remains the same

if it did, the language would be considered dead, no?

why do you call a cigarette a term that on this side o the pond is used to

denigrate gays?

how about punk?

language tis a flowin river...your branch went one way..ours went another....

ever changing...

 

gawd...ok..i'll quit...i sound positively hippie.....

 

 

>jo <jo.heartwork

>May 4, 2006 1:23 PM

>

>Re: Re: recycling old cell phones

>

>As in the Oxford English Dictionary - why have Americans chosen the second

>meaning?

>

>Jo

>

>scheme

>

> . noun 1 a systematic plan or arrangement for achieving a particular

>object or effect. 2 a secret or underhand plan; a plot. 3 a particular

>ordered system or pattern: a classical rhyme scheme.

>

>

>-

> " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

>

>Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:58 PM

> Re: recycling old cell phones

>

>

>hi peter,

>

>scheme is interchangeable with scam or planned trick. especially in

>nyc, where

>I am originaly from,

>they say something, like

>

>so and so had a scheme of selling used

>cellphones on the street to people and passing them of as new.

>

>

>

>

> , " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab

>wrote:

>>

>> Hi Anouk

>>

>> >scheme is a dirty word here in the us, I am glad that it is not in

>> >the uk.

>>

>> Why? What connotations does it have in the US?

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

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Hi Fraggle

 

>why do you call a cigarette a term that on this side o the pond is used to

denigrate gays?

 

The origin of " fag " in that respect pre-dates American colonisation - it is

a hypercoristicon of " faggot " which was used as a derogatory term for

homosexuals as early as the 14th century.... it's origin is in the burnings

of heretics - when heretics were burnt at the stake, homosexuals were often

tied up and stuck on the base of the fire, like a faggot... hence the origin

of the word.

 

BB

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hypercoristicon ...

you oughta get that checked out.....

might lead to bursitis er some such.......

 

 

>Peter <metalscarab

>May 4, 2006 2:54 PM

>

>Re: Re: recycling old cell phones

>

>Hi Fraggle

>

>>why do you call a cigarette a term that on this side o the pond is used to

>denigrate gays?

>

>The origin of " fag " in that respect pre-dates American colonisation - it is

>a hypercoristicon of " faggot " which was used as a derogatory term for

>homosexuals as early as the 14th century.... it's origin is in the burnings

>of heretics - when heretics were burnt at the stake, homosexuals were often

>tied up and stuck on the base of the fire, like a faggot... hence the origin

>of the word.

>

>BB

>Peter

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

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Hi Fraggle

 

> hypercoristicon ...> you oughta get that checked out.....

 

LOL - 'tis one of my favourite words :-)

 

BB

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