Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 It's common unless you create a scene. I ask for the manager and talk loud and you better believe they don't like that, the price always comes down for me. Carl's Jr makes me a bun with lettuce, pickle, tomato, onion, mayo and a slice of cheese if I want the cheese and the price is a quarter. Donna Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile " clevelandveggie " <clevelandveggie Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:59 Discrimination Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I eventually gave it to my dog. I want to know if this is common for other people who order food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start asking for the meat to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Could be but if it is fast food it is done in front of me and if it is a restaurant I get them when the check comes so I have no fear. Donna Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile " RAWKAW " <rawkaw Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:44:11 To: Re: Discrimination I saw a 20/20 (or something) that showed when folks make a scene and ask for changes someone back in the kitchen does something nasty to the food! Kathleen - <thelilacflower " Vegetarian Group " Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:50 AM Re: Discrimination > It's common unless you create a scene. I ask for the manager and talk > loud and you better believe they don't like that, the price always comes > down for me. > Carl's Jr makes me a bun with lettuce, pickle, tomato, onion, mayo and a > slice of cheese if I want the cheese and the price is a quarter. > Donna > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > " clevelandveggie " <clevelandveggie > > Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:59 > > Discrimination > > > Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I > was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special > mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and > when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy > mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. > > On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was > starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman > behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese > and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going > to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. > > So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I > figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I > eventually gave it to my dog. > > I want to know if this is common for other people who order > food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants > charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when > you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. > > I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian > column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start > asking for the meat to go. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I eventually gave it to my dog. I want to know if this is common for other people who order food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start asking for the meat to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Ask the waiter, then go to the manager. If nothing is done and it is a chain establishment, go to the website and complain. If it is small establishment, don't hesitate to ask for the owner or find out how to contact the owner. We normally prevail, or no longer patronize them. We went to a chain and like a million times before, I asked for a substitution on my platter. At all other locations, I was never charged extra. This time, they charged $4! We went to the manager, who said this was policy. I got on the website and complained. They sent us $20 in gift certificates for future meals. Jo-Ann " clevelandveggie " <clevelandveggie Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:59 Discrimination Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I eventually gave it to my dog. I want to know if this is common for other people who order food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start asking for the meat to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I actually run into this all the time. I took 3 business trips in February, one for 4 days. The women I was with and I had dinner at a seafood restaurant. I ordered an $11.00 chicken pear salad minus the chicken. I still paid $11.00 for it. One lady that was with us was curious about the same thing. Why restaurants charge more for sides but would not discount for no meat and she is not even vegetarian. My husband will actually make a comment when he is paying the bill about paying the same for two dishes (we usually order the same, just one w/ no meat) when one dish had less quantity than the other. His opinion is if I hold the meat I should get more vegetable in its place. Maybe someday the restaurant world will get it, for now we try to only go to restaurants that offer some type of vegetarian dish. The problem being that last week I had veggie bugers from 2 different restaurants in 2 different cities and they were both terrible but that was the only vegetarian dish offered and I was too tired to get the waitresses to get my order right. Jenn clevelandveggie <clevelandveggie wrote: Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I eventually gave it to my dog. I want to know if this is common for other people who order food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start asking for the meat to go. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 when you write the article, please send it our way, I'd love to hear it. It's like paying more for organic....we DON " T use the chemicals, but we pay more! just goes to prove....government subsidies Kathleen VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I saw a 20/20 (or something) that showed when folks make a scene and ask for changes someone back in the kitchen does something nasty to the food! Kathleen - <thelilacflower " Vegetarian Group " Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:50 AM Re: Discrimination > It's common unless you create a scene. I ask for the manager and talk > loud and you better believe they don't like that, the price always comes > down for me. > Carl's Jr makes me a bun with lettuce, pickle, tomato, onion, mayo and a > slice of cheese if I want the cheese and the price is a quarter. > Donna > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > " clevelandveggie " <clevelandveggie > > Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:59 > > Discrimination > > > Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I > was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special > mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and > when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy > mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. > > On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was > starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman > behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese > and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going > to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. > > So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I > figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I > eventually gave it to my dog. > > I want to know if this is common for other people who order > food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants > charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when > you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. > > I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian > column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start > asking for the meat to go. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 This happens to me a lot too. I went to Red Lobster a few months ago and ordered the crab fettuccini but without the crab. The dish cost around $12 I think. I still had to pay full price. I don't think noodles with some alfredo sauce is worth that much. Also, it seemed like the portion of pasta was lighter too. If I have to pay the same price as the dish with crab, I think I should get more of the cheap stuff!! Also, I will occasionally eat breakfast at places like McDonalds. I always have to pay full price even though I order the breakfast sandwiches without meat. I went to Burger King one morning and I think they actually did give me a discount for ordering it without the meat. I would also be interested to read your story! -Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 WOW it usually costs at least $0.30 to add a slice of cheese. I don't know what Carl's Jr is. thelilacflower wrote: It's common unless you create a scene. I ask for the manager and talk loud and you better believe they don't like that, the price always comes down for me. Carl's Jr makes me a bun with lettuce, pickle, tomato, onion, mayo and a slice of cheese if I want the cheese and the price is a quarter. Donna Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Good luck with your column!!!! I have been a vegetarian all my life and have had some interesting experiences at restaurants ordering FOOD...LOL. One time I just couldn't make the waitress understand I didn't care to order anything that was meat. I finally ordered a hard boiled egg (in the shell) and crackers (in the wrapper). Once at Burger King I ordered a whooper with everything but hold the meat. I got buns with meat patties and a another box that had the lettuce, tomatoes and everything. Brenda TN On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM, clevelandveggie <clevelandveggie wrote: > Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I > was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special > mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and > when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy > mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. > > On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was > starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman > behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese > and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going > to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. > > So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I > figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I > eventually gave it to my dog. > > I want to know if this is common for other people who order > food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants > charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when > you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. > > I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian > column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start > asking for the meat to go. > > > -- LIVE WELL LAUGH MUCH LOVE OFTEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Stephanie, get on the Red Lobster website and complain. They sent me coupons for free meals when I complained about being overcharged. Jo-Ann On Behalf Of Stephanie Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:50 PM Re: Discrimination This happens to me a lot too. I went to Red Lobster a few months ago and ordered the crab fettuccini but without the crab. The dish cost around $12 I think. I still had to pay full price. I don't think noodles with some alfredo sauce is worth that much. Also, it seemed like the portion of pasta was lighter too. If I have to pay the same price as the dish with crab, I think I should get more of the cheap stuff!! Also, I will occasionally eat breakfast at places like McDonalds. I always have to pay full price even though I order the breakfast sandwiches without meat. I went to Burger King one morning and I think they actually did give me a discount for ordering it without the meat. I would also be interested to read your story! -Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I am curious, Stephanie.....did you ask the server if it was a " made to order " dish or if they just assembled it in the kitchen from already prepared components? And, sometimes a dish like this is prepared ahead of time, if it is served in a specific serving dish and reheated right before serving. I can tell you from my experience as a headchef and kitchen manager, years ago, that preparing ahead of time is a great time saver and is done as often as possible. I would much rather try to find some thing on the menu that could easily be altered....order a dish that was already meatless......or call ahead of time and see if they have any vegetarian dishes on the menu.....or see if they have a menu on-line that you can look at ahead of time so you can be prepared. What most people don't understand is that when you ask for a dish to be altered, it can take a bit more time to make it a way that is different from the norm and probably does not make the cooks very happy. My oldest grandson, who is now 14, for a while was a " bread-atarian " ... meaning when they went out and got hamburgers, Austin didn't want the meat or the vegetables or even the cheese.....he wanted ONLY the bun....but, they still paid full price for it. I don't know where you live but around here, in deep east Texas, they don't see many vegetarians but I can usually find something on the menu to eat.....add to that that I am a Type II diabetic and it can be a challenge not to overeat on the carbs. We are not strict vegetarians, but I do enjoy serving vegetarian meals several times a week and have a pretty nice collection of vegetarian cookbooks and enjoy vegetarian cooking. I used to to " Vegetarian Times " magazine and that was a source of lots of good recipes. But, it can be a challenge to find something really wonderful in a regular restaurant, which is why I would, most of the time, rather eat at home........ better luck next time. And sorry for the long post. Nancy C. ---------- This happens to me a lot too. I went to Red Lobster a few months ago and ordered the crab fettuccini but without the crab. The dish cost around $12 I think. I still had to pay full price. I don't think noodles with some alfredo sauce is worth that much. Also, it seemed like the portion of pasta was lighter too. If I have to pay the same price as the dish with crab, I think I should get more of the cheap stuff!! Also, I will occasionally eat breakfast at places like McDonalds. I always have to pay full price even though I order the breakfast sandwiches without meat. I went to Burger King one morning and I think they actually did give me a discount for ordering it without the meat. I would also be interested to read your story! -Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I got disgusted about the same thing and started just asking for the meat on the side. My husband still eats meat, so sometimes he would eat it and sometimes I just throw it away, but it does make me angry. Lately I have been asking for the meat raw and in a take out bag or box. I put it in the freezer and later give it to a friend who is on a very limited food budget. If I order something with eggs, I ask for them raw and in the shell. Katie " clevelandveggie " Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:59 Discrimination Hello just joined and I have a question and observation. Last week I was at an upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls and ordered " special mac and cheese with chicken. " I ordered it without the chicken and when the bill came the price was still $14.95 for a bowl of fancy mac and cheese. I was annoyed that I paid $14.95 for a $4 meal. On the way back to Cleveland I stopped at McDonald's because I was starving and ordered a " chicken wrap, hold the chicken. " The woman behind the counter said " it's just going to be a wrap with cheese and lettuce. " I said fine, I'll take it. She then said she was going to have to charge me $1.50 for it anyway. So I told her fine, " give me the chicken on the side to go. " I figured if they were going to charge me for it, I was taking it. I eventually gave it to my dog. I want to know if this is common for other people who order food " hold the meat. " I think it's a big racket. If restaurants charge us extra for sides, they could at least reduce the cost when you are eliminating the most expensive items for the meal. I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start asking for the meat to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Personally, I'd rather ask for EXTRAS of the things I'll actually eat. I've been ordering veggy sandwiches at Subway since WAY BEFORE they had it on themenu.. I used to get it for dirt cheap. then they added it to the menu, and it has a higher price.. I was okay with that. as long as they still " make it my way " as they claim... which means a boatload of veggies =) still, i prefer to eat out at places that make good vegan food, or make it at home for myself!!! Jenni B > I'm a reporter and planning to write a Revolt of the Vegetarian > column suggesting that if we are being charged, we need to start > asking for the meat to go. > > " It takes courage to grow up and become who you really are. " ~e. e. cummings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 That is the reason I try to avoid ordering " no meat " . When I do though I always ask for a substitution such as " beans for a salad " or extra veggies or cheese or something. Most rsturants will happily make substitutions at no extra cost. Or else I will ask for the meat on the side which my husband will eat, or could give to the dog at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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