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Fenugreek or fresh Methi leaves as the Indians call them don't do well in

warm they are a Winter plant in India but fresh methi is fabulous

Catherine

 

On 5/9/08, slim_langer <slim_langer wrote:

>

> Hi Roseta,

> Have you tried the New Zealand spinach? This is a weird and wonderful,

> nutritious hot weather plant. It seems perennial for the southern US.

> It pulled through my mild winter, slightly increasing and then started

> to go crazy, one plant producing a whole spinach patch. It grows

> overnight faster than I can cut and use it. However, eating it raw it

> does (to my taste) have a bitter and metallic aftertaste I don't like.

>

> I have some strawberry spinach (aka beetberry or Chenopodium

> capitatum) that seems to go well in hot weather. It tastes wonderful

> raw with very sweet long stems, supposedly fruit berries too, but I

> haven't seen any yet.

>

> The red malabar spinach is a beautiful plant, loves hot weather and

> tastes really good, raw or cooked. Though it is not as nutritious as

> the New Zealand spinach and not cold hardy enough for mild winters.

> I'm also trying purslane, sorrel, miner's lettuce and (later) burnet

> for perennial greens. My lacinato and red russian kale have had half

> the plants bolt, while my dwarf blue (tightly curled) and pentland

> brig kales are all keeping on bigger and more productive than ever,

> keeping me fed along with tons of the New Zealand spinach.

>

> Regarding mustard, my green-wave mustard greens were wonderfully

> productive all winter with frilly large leaves tasting strongly of

> horseradish. Then last month they bolted too and then quickly mildewed

> with our freak 100 degree temps so I had to pull them out. I got some

> tatsoi mustard to try, (mild taste, rounded leaves). And I'll probably

> start some more mustard greens in the late summer again for next year.

>

> Stay well,

>

> Slim

>

> <%40>,

> " rosetalleo " <rosetalleo

> wrote:

> >

> > Ginger, not sure where you live, but if you have an indian store

> with fresh spices and you

> > plant the brown/black mustard seeds and also the yellow ones, you

> will probably get a

> > few plants. I am experimenting with this since I want to grow

> greens even when it gets

> > really hot here. Lettuce will not be possible in the summer so I

> like to try other greens. I

> > am also trying fenugreek greens (have not tasted yet).

> >

> > My partner does not like cooked spinach either, and it is hard to

> get him to eat any greens

> > cooked. We do eat a lot of salads growing our own greens and he

> really likes that. So you

> > are not alone in the preference....

> > Roseta in Los Angeles

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Thanks Kat, this is nice to know. I figured, India, hot....forgot

about the Himalayas....I have not tasted it yet even though I am

growing it. I planted them in early spring and they are doing fine,

just not growing very fast. I think I will be able to harvest before

it gets really warm here, we have cool Mays and cool Junes. They don't

look like any other green we have grown. The seed I used is suspect

so I will try again in the fall with better seed. I will take my own

advice and go to our little India neighborhood and buy the freshest

fenugreek seed I can find....

Roseta

 

 

, " kat en españa "

<catherine.ford wrote:

>

> Fenugreek or fresh Methi leaves as the Indians call them don't do

well in

> warm they are a Winter plant in India but fresh methi is fabulous

> Catherine

>

> On 5/9/08, slim_langer <slim_langer wrote:

> >

> > Hi Roseta,

> > Have you tried the New Zealand spinach? This is a weird and wonderful,

> > nutritious hot weather plant. It seems perennial for the southern US.

> > It pulled through my mild winter, slightly increasing and then started

> > to go crazy, one plant producing a whole spinach patch. It grows

> > overnight faster than I can cut and use it. However, eating it raw it

> > does (to my taste) have a bitter and metallic aftertaste I don't like.

> >

> > I have some strawberry spinach (aka beetberry or Chenopodium

> > capitatum) that seems to go well in hot weather. It tastes wonderful

> > raw with very sweet long stems, supposedly fruit berries too, but I

> > haven't seen any yet.

> >

> > The red malabar spinach is a beautiful plant, loves hot weather and

> > tastes really good, raw or cooked. Though it is not as nutritious as

> > the New Zealand spinach and not cold hardy enough for mild winters.

> > I'm also trying purslane, sorrel, miner's lettuce and (later) burnet

> > for perennial greens. My lacinato and red russian kale have had half

> > the plants bolt, while my dwarf blue (tightly curled) and pentland

> > brig kales are all keeping on bigger and more productive than ever,

> > keeping me fed along with tons of the New Zealand spinach.

> >

> > Regarding mustard, my green-wave mustard greens were wonderfully

> > productive all winter with frilly large leaves tasting strongly of

> > horseradish. Then last month they bolted too and then quickly mildewed

> > with our freak 100 degree temps so I had to pull them out. I got some

> > tatsoi mustard to try, (mild taste, rounded leaves). And I'll probably

> > start some more mustard greens in the late summer again for next year.

> >

> > Stay well,

> >

> > Slim

> >

> > --- In

<%40>,

> > " rosetalleo " <rosetalleo@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Ginger, not sure where you live, but if you have an indian store

> > with fresh spices and you

> > > plant the brown/black mustard seeds and also the yellow ones, you

> > will probably get a

> > > few plants. I am experimenting with this since I want to grow

> > greens even when it gets

> > > really hot here. Lettuce will not be possible in the summer so I

> > like to try other greens. I

> > > am also trying fenugreek greens (have not tasted yet).

> > >

> > > My partner does not like cooked spinach either, and it is hard to

> > get him to eat any greens

> > > cooked. We do eat a lot of salads growing our own greens and he

> > really likes that. So you

> > > are not alone in the preference....

> > > Roseta in Los Angeles

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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it is not eaten raw normally but often used as an added flavouring in Bombay

potatoes. they taste fabulous

I lived in India for three years and learned how to cook Indian food and it

is definately the best i nthe world. Of course if you buy seeds from a

catering supplier and not a gardener you don.t know if htey were genetically

modified.

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Yum, I love Indian cooking. What an interesting experience you must

have had living in India. Will you be posting some Indian recipes?

 

Yes, I intend to cook the Methi greens. We grow different lettuces

and arugula, chicory to use uncooked. I have even been adding

shredded beet greens uncooked to salads, they are really good.

 

, " kat en españa "

<catherine.ford wrote:

>

> it is not eaten raw normally but often used as an added flavouring

in Bombay

> potatoes. they taste fabulous

> I lived in India for three years and learned how to cook Indian food

and it

> is definately the best i nthe world. Of course if you buy seeds from a

> catering supplier and not a gardener you don.t know if htey were

genetically

> modified.

>

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