Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hi Tami, You can explain you have become vegetarian and to you this means anything containing non-vegetarian products as ingredients or any of your foods being cooked with or next to non-vegetarian foods in the same pan or casserole dish or on the same grill. I'm always prepared. If I go to a potluck or picnic I have my veg burger in foil or pregrilled and I have no problem eating if cold with all the fixings. I also take a nice pasta salad or cabbage slaw so there is something else I can eat. If you explain to non-vegetarians in a kind manner with a smile on your face they are understanding. I have rarely had a problem. There is always someone who is going to pick at you but sometimes those are the ones who end up becoming vegetarians a few years later. I have seen this so many times. DO NOT become defensive with them, you never get anywhere when this happens and the next time they might sneak a non-veg ingredient into a dish and you don't want that to happen. I find 75% of ther non-vegetarians are curious, ask questionsd and are willing to try our food. Donna The seed is in bloom, will it meet an early doom or survive in a tranquil sea? Does it face an early end, will it find a real friend,should it be called humanity? Will creation of man bring death by his hand or will life be his destiny? The Seed - Rare earth --- On Wed, 5/14/08, Tami <windswept.serenity.528 wrote: Tami <windswept.serenity.528 Re: How to be polite? Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 8:59 AM Donna, Come Monday I will be taking all the meat out of my diet. Then in the next three months I'll be taking things out of my diet that have meat products in them. It's amazing how many there are! Can you tell me how you explain to people that you don't eat anything that had meat touching it. I know I will be the same way but for some reason I cant wrap my own mind around the reason why I am going to be like that. (I know that sounds goofy) I figure if I hear others reasons something might click within me. :-)    Tami Your life is an occasion. Rise to it! 210.8\185\135 = 25.8 pounds gone forever -- -- I have had to explain why I don't eat pizza with pepperoni pulled off or meatballs removed from sauce, several times to meat eaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hay Cassie, I wish you good luck. I think it will be a snap when you explain nicely to her. She seems to be very accepting to think of you both. You were on her mind when she bought the veg-dogs. Maybe you could take her a flower in a small vase for her desk. Just a thought. Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I was guilty of offering vegetarians food by telling them they could remove the non-veg ingredient and enjoy the dish, until I became vegetarian myself and understood. I only wish someone would have given me a little direction and told me that doesn't work. I think the vegetarians felt they would hurt my feelings so they never said anything to me. Cassie I think she will understand when you take a moment and explain to her. Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 " Can you tell me how you explain to people that you don't eat anything that had meat touching it. " and another " How much intelligence does that take? " This probably sounds strange, but I am more than curious as to why someone can't eat a veggie burger cooked on a grill with meat. I'm a new vegetarian, and it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone made spagetti and threw in meatballs. I'd just pick out the meatballs. I cook meat for my family, so I'm still " touching " it and will use the same pan to fry theirs and mine. I'm sure everyone will probably be upset with my " un " intelligence, but I guess I'm just one of those that doesn't have the intelligence that it takes to know better:). So please no geting upset with me, I just really don't get it, unless it would be an allergy thing and could cause serious health issues. Thanks in advance for being gentle! kelly, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Kelly, I think it comes down to why you are vegetarian. If it's for health reasons, then yes, maybe it's not a big deal to you. But I have been an ethical vegetarian for over 30 years and having dead animal flesh in my food is beyond repugnant to me. I would think that would be something a meat eater could understand once it was explained to them. Not only do I not cook meat, but I don't even want meat in my pots/pans. :-) Sharon Kelly Best wrote: > This probably sounds strange, but I am more than curious as to why someone can't eat a veggie burger cooked on a grill with meat. I'm a new vegetarian, and it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone made spagetti and threw in meatballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Kelly, If I absolutely have to I will pick meat off of something. But for me (I have been veg for a while and am an animal rights girl) I am choosing to not eat meat, I don't want my food to be flavored like meat or with meat juice. I also would rather get something completely meat-free rather than have the meat go to waste-if that makes sense. As in they didn't need to cook that much chicken, beef, whatever because I am going to end up picking it off and throwing it away anyhow, thus wasting the meat. If I could get my meat free en tree it's one less chicken that has to be killed (sorry if that is too graphic, can't think of how else to put it). Now my husband still eats meat so our grill has a meat side and a veg side, I can't swear that my veg side has never had meat on it ! However, we would never purposely put a veg burger and a meat burger on the same plate to bring them in from the grill. It is just all in what works for you. You mentioned you are a new veggie. Over time you may dislike meat more and object to picking meatballs out of your spaghetti or it may never bother you. actually the longer you are veg, the more your system adapts and stops making the enzymes that digest meat. So while maybe touching meat may not be enough to make you sick, if some long time vegs got some meat inadvertently it really might cause some discomfort-physical and psychological : ) Melissa , Kelly Best <bests4him wrote: > > " Can you tell me how you explain to people that you don't eat anything that > had meat touching it. " and another " How much intelligence does that take? " > > This probably sounds strange, but I am more than curious as to why someone can't eat a veggie burger cooked on a grill with meat. I'm a new vegetarian, and it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone made spagetti and threw in meatballs. I'd just pick out the meatballs. I cook meat for my family, so I'm still " touching " it and will use the same pan to fry theirs and mine. I'm sure everyone will probably be upset with my " un " intelligence, but I guess I'm just one of those that doesn't have the intelligence that it takes to know better:). So please no geting upset with me, I just really don't get it, unless it would be an allergy thing and could cause serious health issues. Thanks in advance for being gentle! kelly, FL > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I don't know how to explain it POLITELY, so there might be issues with my intelligence as well....LOL It is just....gross? disgusting? unappetizing? revolting? yucky? (sorry if anyone finds this offensive, just trying to explain...) Was it so when I just became interested in vegetarian food? No, it took a while, maybe a few months, maybe a few years. I can relate with the original poster. Here is someone that made a special effort for me to eat, but I can't eat it, it grosses me out. How do I say this politely? I don't know how to do these things either, so I avoid BBQs with co-workers myself. I am socially inept though. Roseta , Kelly Best <bests4him wrote: > > " Can you tell me how you explain to people that you don't eat anything that > had meat touching it. " and another " How much intelligence does that take? " > > This probably sounds strange, but I am more than curious as to why someone can't eat a veggie burger cooked on a grill with meat. I'm a new vegetarian, and it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone made spagetti and threw in meatballs. I'd just pick out the meatballs. I cook meat for my family, so I'm still " touching " it and will use the same pan to fry theirs and mine. I'm sure everyone will probably be upset with my " un " intelligence, but I guess I'm just one of those that doesn't have the intelligence that it takes to know better:). So please no geting upset with me, I just really don't get it, unless it would be an allergy thing and could cause serious health issues. Thanks in advance for being gentle! kelly, FL > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I am just starting to understand this for myself. I've only been a vegetarian for about 6 months. It's for health reasons only. Last week someone in our area gave my husband a piece of wild turkey and he asked if I'd cook it for him. I have always loved cooking all types of food. Just touching the meat and looking at it, made me feel icky. I told him I didn't even want the stuff in the house anymore and it made my kitchen feel greasy.....that's such a change for me being a big meat eater and cooking it for years now. The thought of 'dead flesh' is repulsive to me now. It's DEAD. I just am amazed at my change in such a short amount of time. For years, when I talked to vegetarians , I just couldn't 'understand' they why/what/how they were thinking....you just have to get away from it for a short time....it begins to make sense! even my 11 yod....says " gag! " Kathleen - Sharon Zakhour Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:12 PM Re: Re: How to be polite? Kelly, I think it comes down to why you are vegetarian. If it's for health reasons, then yes, maybe it's not a big deal to you. But I have been an ethical vegetarian for over 30 years and having dead animal flesh in my food is beyond repugnant to me. I would think that would be something a meat eater could understand once it was explained to them. Not only do I not cook meat, but I don't even want meat in my pots/pans. :-) Sharon Kelly Best wrote: > This probably sounds strange, but I am more than curious as to why someone can't eat a veggie burger cooked on a grill with meat. I'm a new vegetarian, and it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone made spagetti and threw in meatballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I didnt eat one. The thoughtful woman placed cards on either side of the machine: veg dogs, hot dogs. The dogs still had ends touching, and I am sure that the oils and juices didnt read the signs before rolling to each other (Lol). I am going to get her a card for her thoughtfulness though. As for socially inept... One major reason I didnt eat a veggie dog was b/c every time I went to get some food there were 3+ people in there eating and socializing. It scares me when I have to serve myself infront of others (very judgmental upbringing). Totally get you point. I waited until I got home to eat. Cassie " life's a garden, dig it! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 This whole thread about why people don't want meat products touching their food and how they explain it to people has been interesting and eye opening. I sure appreciate all of you taking the time to answer the questions us new vegetarians have for you. I decided to become a vegetarian for ethical reasons. Then once I started reading more about it health played a big roll in the decision. I tried to explain my confusion to my hubby last night and this is how I explained it..... If I was a vegetarian for health reasons only I see no problem picking the meat off of something or allowing my food to touch meat foods. But it's the ethical reasons where it started to get wobbly on me.... If someone hands me a piece of chicken, I will not eat it. That's simple enough. Now if my MIL called me and said, what do you want for dinner and I told her spaghetti, then she makes a big pot of spaghetti and meat balls I would feel like I personally had something to do with that animal suffering and I couldn't see me eating it. But if I went to her house and she had made the spaghetti and meatballs because it was what she wanted and had nothing to do with me, then I did not have anything personal to do with what happened to that cow. So I could see myself then taking the meatballs out and eating the sauce. So it's more like I don't want to be the one responsible for the animal suffering. Does this make any sense to anyone other then me. And really, it doesn't make that much sense to me at the moment. I'm still trying to wrap my brains around all of it. But like what has been mentioned here, after awhile of being a vegetarian I m sure I will get to the point that it isn't a wobbly area at all and I wont want my food touching meat or cooked with meat. As it stands right now, my plan is to become vegan eventually. Then watch the fun begin at my MILs house. LOL Thanks again to all of you who answered our questions.    Tami Your life is an occasion. Rise to it! 210.8\185\135 = 25.8 pounds gone forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Because we live in an apartment building and we tend to share everything, I have even labeled my grill " VEGETARIAN " so that no one think they can borrow it and put meat on it, because it would disturb me greatly to know that our " virgin " grill had meat on it! Like others, if I " had " to, I would pick meat off things, but it just makes life nicer to go the extra mile and not have veg food touching meat. That's why veg potlucks are soooo wonderful! (Check out vegetarian.meetup.com to see if there is a group near you!) 360./naturekeene7 My Website! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I just wanted to thank everyone for responding both privately and on group to my question. This is such a terrific group -- everyone is polite, and they educate without making me feeling stupid or bad. I have gotten some great recipes here, and love the conversations -- it is truly my favorite group of the many I belong to. Thanks for being so informative and just a great bunch of people! Kelly, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 100thanks 4 giveing this msg & I give thanks to all because i dont now about every ones e-mail adress. rose's to all the members from me --- On Thu, 15/5/08, Tami <windswept.serenity.528 wrote: Tami <windswept.serenity.528 Re: How to be polite? Thursday, 15 May, 2008, 1:57 PM This whole thread about why people don't want meat products touching their food and how they explain it to people has been interesting and eye opening.. I sure appreciate all of you taking the time to answer the questions us new vegetarians have for you. I decided to become a vegetarian for ethical reasons. Then once I started reading more about it health played a big roll in the decision. I tried to explain my confusion to my hubby last night and this is how I explained it..... If I was a vegetarian for health reasons only I see no problem picking the meat off of something or allowing my food to touch meat foods. But it's the ethical reasons where it started to get wobbly on me.... If someone hands me a piece of chicken, I will not eat it. That's simple enough. Now if my MIL called me and said, what do you want for dinner and I told her spaghetti, then she makes a big pot of spaghetti and meat balls I would feel like I personally had something to do with that animal suffering and I couldn't see me eating it. But if I went to her house and she had made the spaghetti and meatballs because it was what she wanted and had nothing to do with me, then I did not have anything personal to do with what happened to that cow. So I could see myself then taking the meatballs out and eating the sauce. So it's more like I don't want to be the one responsible for the animal suffering. Does this make any sense to anyone other then me. And really, it doesn't make that much sense to me at the moment. I'm still trying to wrap my brains around all of it. But like what has been mentioned here, after awhile of being a vegetarian I m sure I will get to the point that it isn't a wobbly area at all and I wont want my food touching meat or cooked with meat. As it stands right now, my plan is to become vegan eventually. Then watch the fun begin at my MILs house. LOL Thanks again to all of you who answered our questions.    Tami Your life is an occasion. Rise to it! 210.8\185\135 = 25.8 pounds gone forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I'm going to be very polite tomorrow. We are invited to a Father's Day BBQ at our granddaughters and they are BBQing chicken. I said that I would bring my veggie chicken and was told that they would just pop it on the BBQ with the others. NOT. I am going to prepare it at home and my favourite way to eat it with salads is cold. When I was a meat eater, I much preferred my chicken to be cold. ( ) ( __ c\_/ Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 How did it go at the BBQ? I hope you had a great time. Hopefully you have not already answered this. I am sort of behind. -Gypsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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