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Nice fortress castle there, also one on the island - Beaumaris not bad.Incidentally , Anglesy still has one of the few pockets of native red squirells in Britain.

You could go to Llanberis or Betws y Coed for scenery, or even Portmeirion if you remember the village in The Prisoner........

Let me know what the B & B is like?

 

 

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jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 10:11:45 PMRe: Olympics

 

 It will be most enjoyable, and the accent will be fine. We're staying at a vegetarian B & B in Penisarwaun near Caernarfon.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Monday, August 11, 2008 7:52 AM

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My sympathies.. ....he,he. Hope the accent doesnt annoy you too much! wherabouts?

 

 

Peter vv

 

 

jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 10:54:04 PMRe: Olympics

 

 :-)

 

We're coming to North Wales for a couple of days soon.

 

Jo

 

 

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:01 PM

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She obviously has good taste!

 

Peter vv

 

 

jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 8:31:17 PMRe: Olympics

 

 I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in Wales :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM

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He,he.

Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB.

 

 

 

Peter vv

 

 

jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics

 

 I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant.

 

Whatever - she did really well.

 

Jo

 

 

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Peter VV

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM

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Yay,

Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ......:)

 

Peter vv

 

 

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter

 

 

Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend

eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter

2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like?

 

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There you go again with the GREAT Britain, what is so great? our legacy of "the empire"...huh!

 

 

 

Peter vv

 

 

jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 10:21:06 PMRe: Olympics

 

 The trouble is we are not separate countries - our politics and finances are entwined. I might not like it any more than you do. You are always so busy thinking that you are Welsh and separate and that the English want to hang on to you - well maybe it's not true - maybe we'd like to get you off our backs!

 

Now - I'm not saying that this is what I think, and I'm not saying I don't think it - because the fact is it doesn't make any difference what I think, or what you think - we are all British.

 

There must be better things for you to rail against, than being part of Great Britain.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Peter VV

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Monday, August 11, 2008 9:39 AM

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OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country.

And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines... ......... ..

 

 

 

Peter vv

 

 

Peter <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comMonday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics

 

 Hi Peter

 

> The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation,

 

Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-)

 

I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts.

 

> has its own government etc

 

Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government!

 

BB

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I do find it amusing that this particular bit of news hasn't caused a stir at all in England - presumably no-one is too interested in not being allowed to fly the St George Cross....

 

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Peter

 

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jo.heartwork

Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 PM

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 Well, I suppose if there are to be rules, that is the way it should be. I suspect the ahtletes get some financial aid from the British or English.

 

Maybe we English should be more separatist - what do you reckon?

 

BBJo

 

 

 

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Peter

Monday, August 11, 2008 8:29 AM

Re: Olympics

 

 

 Hi Jo

 

> In the Olympics we are Great Britain.

 

In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the fact that the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flags which are not the national flags of countries with an olympic committee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have been banned from the stadiums!!!!

 

BB

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We are looking forward to it. Have been to Beaumaris Castle before -

very nice - will probably re-visit. Also want to see the Museum of

Childhood, which could be interesting.

 

There are so many pretty places - including Fairy Glen. We visited

Portmeirion once. but didn't have enough time to really look round.

 

I'll report back on the B & B.

 

Jo

 

, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> Nice fortress castle there, also one on the island - Beaumaris not

bad.Incidentally , Anglesy still has one of the few pockets of native

red squirells in Britain.

> You could go to Llanberis or Betws y Coed for scenery, or even

Portmeirion if you remember the village in The Prisoner........

> Let me know what the B & B is like?

>

>  

> Peter vv

>

>

>

>

> jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

>

> Monday, 11 August, 2008 10:11:45 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> It will be most enjoyable, and the accent will be fine.  We're

staying at a vegetarian B & B in Penisarwaun near Caernarfon.

>  

> Jo

>  

>  

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, August 11, 2008 7:52 AM

> Re: Olympics

>

> My sympathies.. ....he,he. Hope the accent doesnt annoy you too

much! wherabouts?

>

>  

> Peter vv

>

>

>

>

> jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, 10 August, 2008 10:54:04 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> :-)

>  

> We're coming to North Wales for a couple of days soon.

>  

> Jo

>  

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:01 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

> She obviously has good taste!

>  

> Peter vv

>

>

>

>

> jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, 10 August, 2008 8:31:17 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in

Wales :-)

>  

> Jo

>  

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

> He,he.

> Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB.

>

>  

> Peter vv

>

>

>

>

> jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a

beautiful south English accent !  I think possibly she is an English

migrant.

>  

> Whatever - she did really well.

>  

> Jo

>  

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

> Yay,

> Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ......:)

>  

> Peter vv

>

>

>

>

> Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PM

> Re: help please Jo & Peter

>

>

> Hi Peter

>

> Been to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things

you like....

>

> It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large

stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the

middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of

times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central

circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge

(similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape).

Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk

around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's

also " the avenue " which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which

leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the

circle.

>

> In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled

with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and

a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting

your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no

idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there

after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a

wonderful little veggie cafe called " Stones " (I think... although it

might be " The Circle " now), which normally has a few vegan options.

>

> Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the

circle! :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

>

> 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>

>

> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am

keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been?

whats it like?

>

>

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It is strange. Mainly the English flag is flown for football

matches. Maybe not many football fans watch the Olympics! Just a

guess. I notice the commentators, although mentioning when someone

is English, Scottish or Welsh, always say 'Great Britain'.

 

I was annoyed about the opening ceremony, when the little girl (7

years old) apparently singing the solo song, wasn't actually the

person who sang it. The lovely voice belongs to a seven year old

girl deemed by the authorities to be 'not pretty enough'! That makes

me mad.

 

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab wrote:

>

> I do find it amusing that this particular bit of news hasn't caused

a stir at all in England - presumably no-one is too interested in not

being allowed to fly the St George Cross....

>

> BB

> Peter

> -

> jo.heartwork

>

> Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> Well, I suppose if there are to be rules, that is the way it

should be. I suspect the ahtletes get some financial aid from the

British or English.

>

> Maybe we English should be more separatist - what do you reckon?

>

> BB

> Jo

>

>

> -

> Peter

>

> Monday, August 11, 2008 8:29 AM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > In the Olympics we are Great Britain.

>

> In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the fact

that the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flags

which are not the national flags of countries with an olympic

committee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have been

banned from the stadiums!!!!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

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Yep - particularly as it flies in the face of communist ethics. Marx

would've been furious.

 

BB

Peter

 

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" heartwerk " <jo.heartwork

 

Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 AM

Re: Olympics

 

 

It is strange. Mainly the English flag is flown for football

matches. Maybe not many football fans watch the Olympics! Just a

guess. I notice the commentators, although mentioning when someone

is English, Scottish or Welsh, always say 'Great Britain'.

 

I was annoyed about the opening ceremony, when the little girl (7

years old) apparently singing the solo song, wasn't actually the

person who sang it. The lovely voice belongs to a seven year old

girl deemed by the authorities to be 'not pretty enough'! That makes

me mad.

 

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab wrote:

>

> I do find it amusing that this particular bit of news hasn't caused

a stir at all in England - presumably no-one is too interested in not

being allowed to fly the St George Cross....

>

> BB

> Peter

> -

> jo.heartwork

>

> Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 PM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

> Well, I suppose if there are to be rules, that is the way it

should be. I suspect the ahtletes get some financial aid from the

British or English.

>

> Maybe we English should be more separatist - what do you reckon?

>

> BB

> Jo

>

>

> -

> Peter

>

> Monday, August 11, 2008 8:29 AM

> Re: Olympics

>

>

> 

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > In the Olympics we are Great Britain.

>

> In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the fact

that the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flags

which are not the national flags of countries with an olympic

committee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have been

banned from the stadiums!!!!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

 

 

 

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Definitely. It seems so unfair - on both the little girls.

 

BBJo

 

 

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Peter

Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:40 AM

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Yep - particularly as it flies in the face of communist ethics. Marx would've been furious.BBPeter- "heartwerk" <jo.heartwork >Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 AMRe: OlympicsIt is strange. Mainly the English flag is flown for footballmatches. Maybe not many football fans watch the Olympics! Just aguess. I notice the commentators, although mentioning when someoneis English, Scottish or Welsh, always say 'Great Britain'.I was annoyed about the opening ceremony, when the little girl (7years old) apparently singing the solo song, wasn't actually theperson who sang it. The lovely voice belongs to a seven year oldgirl deemed by the authorities to be 'not pretty enough'! That makesme mad.Jo , "Peter" <metalscarab wrote:>> I do find it amusing that this particular bit of news hasn't causeda stir at all in England - presumably no-one is too interested in notbeing allowed to fly the St George Cross....>> BB> Peter> - > jo.heartwork> > Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 PM> Re: Olympics>>> > Well, I suppose if there are to be rules, that is the way itshould be. I suspect the ahtletes get some financial aid from theBritish or English.>> Maybe we English should be more separatist - what do you reckon?>> BB> Jo>>> - > Peter> > Monday, August 11, 2008 8:29 AM> Re: Olympics>>> >> Hi Jo>> > In the Olympics we are Great Britain.>> In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the factthat the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flagswhich are not the national flags of countries with an olympiccommittee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have beenbanned from the stadiums!!!!>> BB> Peter>---To send an email to -

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Just reading about you all watching the Olympics makes me drool--my

hubby is boycotting because of human rights issues especially

Tibet--is there anyone else out there missing the Olympics because of

China's human rights policies? I usually watch everything and I miss

it so much. Just wondering-- Ann

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I don't know if you remember Flo Hyman who lead the women's volleyball team to

win a silver metal, I grew up with her and no one knows what this sweet woman

went thru to train. Her Mom passed and left her with siblings to raise. Well

Flo ate at my house two weeks before she died on the volleyball court training a

team, doing what she loved. I will always watch the Olympics in honor of my

friend Flo. There is no right or wrong thing to tell you to do. We all have

reasons so your husband is entitled to his.

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Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:28:34

 

Olympics

 

 

Just reading about you all watching the Olympics makes me drool--my

hubby is boycotting because of human rights issues especially

Tibet--is there anyone else out there missing the Olympics because of

China's human rights policies? I usually watch everything and I miss

it so much. Just wondering-- Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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I thought about it and worried about all the athletes and others that are there

for them and their safety. Some incidents have occured, but thankfully, so far,

not nearly as many as it appeared might occur. Praying for that to continue

thru the end.

 

My heart does ache for those 3 yold chinese children taken from their families

to train for gymnastic, if any talent is shown.. It is abusive too.

 

In the end, I decided to watch and enjoy the nations of athletes coming together

and being peaceful and doing what they had worked so very hard for. I admire

them. The athletes inspire me and that is where I am focusing my enjoyment of

the olympics. It is wonderful to see them hug others when they finish

competitons. What wonderful sportsmanship.

 

Judy

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:28 PM

Olympics

 

 

Just reading about you all watching the Olympics makes me drool--my

hubby is boycotting because of human rights issues especially

Tibet--is there anyone else out there missing the Olympics because of

China's human rights policies? I usually watch everything and I miss

it so much. Just wondering-- Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also boycotting here. I don't think the Games should be allowed to be

hosted by dictatorships. But also have to confess not missing them

much. I'm happy for the athletes and their joy in their achievements

but am mourning my Mariners and looking forward to my 12th year

running our fantasy football league.

 

Peace (soon please),

Diane

 

, " ann1083 " <ann1083 wrote:

>

> Just reading about you all watching the Olympics makes me drool--my

> hubby is boycotting because of human rights issues especially

> Tibet--is there anyone else out there missing the Olympics because of

> China's human rights policies? I usually watch everything and I miss

> it so much. Just wondering-- Ann

>

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I personally like to watch the winter games much more....especially the ice

skating events. I have only

watched a few events....last night when Michael Phelps won that 8th gold

medal....couldn't resist seeing

that...WOW!!.....and watched Dara Torres, a 41 year old swimmer mom, win a

silver medal with her relay

teammates. If I were running the Olympics, they would not have been in

China.....not just for their human

rights issues with Tibet, which are horrible enough, but because it is a

communist country and because of

the horrible pollution and the problems it has caused the athletes.

Nancy C.

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