Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 ok..sorry..trousers... and today bush announces he wants to export more nuke technology to india i'm sure pakistan and china will love that The Times of India, 10 July 2006 Forces seek cruise missiles with N-tips NEW DELHI: With the country's ballistic missile programme spluttering once again on Sunday, with the Agni-III ballistic missile test flopping, it's time that defence scientists speeded up their plans to develop nuclear-tipped land-attack cruise missiles (LACMs). The armed forces have sought LACMs, with ranges in excess of 1,500 km for precision nuclear strikes, say sources. Defence Research and Development Organisation has been working towards this end for quite some time now but sources say it will take at least another couple of years for such LACMs to become operational. Pakistan, meanwhile, has already stolen a march on LACMs by conducting two tests of its Babur LACM, touted as being capable of carrying nuclear warheads to a 500-km distance, with China's help. Plans are now afoot to induct at least one full regiment of Babur missiles, with their road-mobile launchers, into the Pakistani Army by 2008. Pakistan, in fact, speeded up its cruise missile programme after India began showing interest in the American Patriot Advanced Capability-3 and Israeli Arrow-2 anti-ballistic missile systems in its eventual quest for a missile defence shield. Cruise missiles, unlike ballistic missiles, do not leave the atmosphere and are powered and guided throughout their flight path. They can penetrate missile and air-defence systems more effectively since they evade enemy radars by flying at low altitudes, virtually hugging the terrain. " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for " speed " for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Peter I find it mildly irritating... although not so much as the "healthful", as the "speeded" is just an error... seems to me that healthful is one of those words that was created by someone being a bit pretentious.... BB Peter - peter VV Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 or..............just did it to annoy?.................or just didnt know any better? The Valley Vegan..................Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter I find it mildly irritating... although not so much as the "healthful", as the "speeded" is just an error... seems to me that healthful is one of those words that was created by someone being a bit pretentious.... BB Peter - peter VV Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Peter >or..............just did it to annoy?.................or just didnt know any better? Generally if someone does something 'cos they don't know any better, it'll appear a couple of times on their shopping list, and never make it's way into common usage.... I used to work with someone who used to complain when people got things "gramerically" incorrect - but I've never seen that word pop up anywhere else, even though he said it about twice a day! Which makes me think that people who create these words like "healthful" do it to be pretentious.... BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 There was a quiz show on BBC 4 tonight - Never Mind The Full Stops - all about English language. It was quite interesting. Jo - peter VV Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 If only there were a place to go to in order to find out when and how words were created. Here is what I found on healthful Dictionary.com health·ful adj. Conducive to good health; salutary. Healthy. See Usage Note at healthy. healthful·ly adv. healthful·ness n. Main Entry: health·ful Pronunciation: 'helth-f & l Function: adjective : beneficial to health of body or mind —health·ful·ly /-f & -lE/ adverb —health·ful·ness noun healthful adj 1: conducive to good health of body or mind; " a healthful climate " ; " a healthful environment " ; " healthful nutrition " ; " healthful sleep " ; " Dickens's relatively healthful exuberance " [ant: unhealthful] 2: free from filth and pathogens; " sanitary conditions for preparing food " ; " a sanitary washroom " [syn: sanitary] [ant: unsanitary] healthful healthful: in CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary At CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary: http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd? query=healthful & action=Search+OMD 1. Full of health; free from illness or disease; well; whole; sound; healthy; as, a healthful body or mind; a healthful plant. 2. Serving to promote health of body or mind; wholesome; salubrious; salutary; as, a healthful air, diet. " The healthful Spirit of thy grace. " (Book of Common Prayer) 3. Indicating, characterised by, or resulting from, health or soundness; as, a healthful condition. " A mind . . . Healthful and so well-proportioned. " (Macaulay) 4. Well-disposed; favorable. " Gave healthful welcome to their shipwrecked guests. " (Shak) Source: Websters Dictionary Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Peter > > I find it mildly irritating... although not so much as the " healthful " , as the " speeded " is just an error... seems to me that healthful is one of those words that was created by someone being a bit pretentious.... > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Peter So you have seen this word used in other places? Because this was the first time I ever saw it. BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Peter > > >or..............just did it to annoy?.................or just didnt know any better? > > Generally if someone does something 'cos they don't know any better, it'll appear a couple of times on their shopping list, and never make it's way into common usage.... I used to work with someone who used to complain when people got things " gramerically " incorrect - but I've never seen that word pop up anywhere else, even though he said it about twice a day! Which makes me think that people who create these words like " healthful " do it to be pretentious.... > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Nikki & all I've been looking around a bit for " healthful " and " healthy " . I've discovered that " healthy " was first used in written language in 1552... however, I can't find any reference to " healthful " prior to 1992 - I've looked at various English dictionaries dating from 1532 up to the 1990s, and none of them seem to have it prior to the early 1990s... I'd be intrigued to see if anyone can find any reference to the word earlier than that :-) BB Peter On 12/07/06, earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: If only there were a place to go to in order to find out when andhow words were created.Here is what I found on healthful Dictionary.comhealth·ful adj.Conducive to good health; salutary.Healthy. See Usage Note at healthy.healthful·ly adv.healthful·ness n.Main Entry: health·ful Pronunciation: 'helth-f & lFunction: adjective: beneficial to health of body or mind —health·ful·ly /-f & -lE/adverb —health·ful·ness nounhealthfuladj 1: conducive to good health of body or mind; " a healthful climate " ; " a healthful environment " ; " healthfulnutrition " ; " healthful sleep " ; " Dickens's relatively healthfulexuberance " [ant: unhealthful] 2: free from filth and pathogens; " sanitary conditions for preparing food " ; " a sanitarywashroom " [syn: sanitary] [ant: unsanitary]healthfulhealthful: in CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary At CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary:http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=healthful & action=Search+OMD1. Full of health; free from illness or disease; well; whole; sound; healthy; as, a healthful body or mind; a healthful plant.2. Serving to promote health of body or mind; wholesome; salubrious;salutary; as, a healthful air, diet. " The healthful Spirit of thygrace. " (Book of Common Prayer) 3. Indicating, characterised by, or resulting from, health orsoundness; as, a healthful condition. " A mind . . . Healthful and sowell-proportioned. " (Macaulay)4. Well-disposed; favorable. " Gave healthful welcome to their shipwrecked guests. " (Shak)Source: Websters DictionaryNikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: >> Hi Peter>> I find it mildly irritating... although not so much asthe " healthful " , as the " speeded " is just an error... seems to methat healthful is one of those words that was created by someone being a bit pretentious....>> BB> Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Nikki >So you have seen this word used in other places? Because this was >the first time I ever saw it. No - that's my point! :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Nikki Having just answered, it's struck me that I'm not now sure whether you meant the word " gramerically " or the word " healthful " ... I've not come across gramerically except for this one person who said it frequently, and I'd not come across healthful before the last few days! Which word were you asking about? BB Peter On 12/07/06, earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: Hi PeterSo you have seen this word used in other places? Because this wasthe first time I ever saw it. BBNikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote:>> Hi Peter>> >or..............just did it to annoy?.................or just didnt know any better?>> Generally if someone does something 'cos they don't know anybetter, it'll appear a couple of times on their shopping list, andnever make it's way into common usage.... I used to work with someone who used to complain when people got things " gramerically " incorrect - but I've never seen that word pop up anywhere else, eventhough he said it about twice a day! Which makes me think that people who create these words like " healthful " do it to bepretentious....>> BB> Peter> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Peter Ah, sorry, got it now, I read that one backwards. BB Nikki , " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > >So you have seen this word used in other places? Because this was > >the first time I ever saw it. > > No - that's my point! :-) > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Peter Healthful, but it doesn't matter because I read it wrong the first time. Thx! BB Nikki , " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > Having just answered, it's struck me that I'm not now sure whether you meant > the word " gramerically " or the word " healthful " ... I've not come across > gramerically except for this one person who said it frequently, and I'd not > come across healthful before the last few days! > > Which word were you asking about? > > BB > Peter > > > On 12/07/06, earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: > > > > Hi Peter > > > > So you have seen this word used in other places? Because this was > > the first time I ever saw it. > > > > BB > > Nikki > > > > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Peter > > > > > > >or..............just did it to annoy?.................or just > > didnt know any better? > > > > > > Generally if someone does something 'cos they don't know any > > better, it'll appear a couple of times on their shopping list, and > > never make it's way into common usage.... I used to work with > > someone who used to complain when people got things " gramerically " > > incorrect - but I've never seen that word pop up anywhere else, even > > though he said it about twice a day! Which makes me think that > > people who create these words like " healthful " do it to be > > pretentious.... > > > > > > BB > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Nikki > Healthful, but it doesn't matter because I read it wrong the first > time. So... just to clarify... did I read what you'd written correctly - that you'd not come across healthful before? > Thx! My pleasure :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Boy, thats some hobby you have there! The Valley Vegan...............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Nikki & all I've been looking around a bit for "healthful" and "healthy". I've discovered that "healthy" was first used in written language in 1552... however, I can't find any reference to "healthful" prior to 1992 - I've looked at various English dictionaries dating from 1532 up to the 1990s, and none of them seem to have it prior to the early 1990s... I'd be intrigued to see if anyone can find any reference to the word earlier than that :-) BB Peter On 12/07/06, earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: If only there were a place to go to in order to find out when andhow words were created.Here is what I found on healthful Dictionary.comhealth·ful adj.Conducive to good health; salutary.Healthy. See Usage Note at healthy.healthful·ly adv.healthful·ness n.Main Entry: health·ful Pronunciation: 'helth-f & lFunction: adjective: beneficial to health of body or mind —health·ful·ly /-f & -lE/adverb —health·ful·ness nounhealthfuladj 1: conducive to good health of body or mind; "a healthful climate"; "a healthful environment"; "healthfulnutrition"; "healthful sleep"; "Dickens's relatively healthfulexuberance" [ant: unhealthful] 2: free from filth andpathogens; "sanitary conditions for preparing food"; "a sanitarywashroom" [syn: sanitary] [ant: unsanitary]healthfulhealthful: in CancerWEB's On-line Medical DictionaryAt CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary:http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=healthful & action=Search+OMD1. Full of health; free from illness or disease; well; whole; sound; healthy; as, a healthful body or mind; a healthful plant.2. Serving to promote health of body or mind; wholesome; salubrious;salutary; as, a healthful air, diet. "The healthful Spirit of thygrace." (Book of Common Prayer) 3. Indicating, characterised by, or resulting from, health orsoundness; as, a healthful condition. "A mind . . . Healthful and sowell-proportioned." (Macaulay)4. Well-disposed; favorable. "Gave healthful welcome to their shipwrecked guests." (Shak)Source: Websters DictionaryNikki , "Peter" <metalscarab wrote: >> Hi Peter>> I find it mildly irritating... although not so much asthe "healthful", as the "speeded" is just an error... seems to methat healthful is one of those words that was created by someone being a bit pretentious....>> BB> Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I hope you told Peter beforehand. He would have been in his element. The Valley Vegan............................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: There was a quiz show on BBC 4 tonight - Never Mind The Full Stops - all about English language. It was quite interesting. Jo - peter VV Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 He doesn't get BBC4. It was a good programme though, with some very knowledgeable people. Jo - peter VV Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:24 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? I hope you told Peter beforehand. He would have been in his element. The Valley Vegan............................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: There was a quiz show on BBC 4 tonight - Never Mind The Full Stops - all about English language. It was quite interesting. Jo - peter VV Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 PM Re: does this scare the pants off anyone else? are you realy botherererered by all this? The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Fraggle >The Times of India, 10 July 2006 > scientists speeded up Oh great, now the Indians are at it as well.... we've had a perfectly good past tense for "speed" for the past few centuries.... BB Peter Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hi Peter >Boy, thats some hobby you have there! What can I say - I like old dictionaries :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hi Peter That is how I wrote it, but to be honest I don't know if I have ever seen it before or not. If I had, I do not think that it would be something that would stick out to me. But it is hard to tell for sure now with all the emphasis we have put on it here. LOL BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > > Healthful, but it doesn't matter because I read it wrong the first > > time. > > So... just to clarify... did I read what you'd written correctly - that > you'd not come across healthful before? > > > Thx! > > My pleasure :-) > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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