Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi Cort I think I would be inclined to point out to the school that if they teach children to disrespect one form of life, they are teaching them to disrespect *all* forms of life, which can only lead to creating bullies. If they think this sounds crazy, you could point out to them that this was the view held by Leo Tolstoy, who is generally considered to be one of the greatest philosophers of the modern age.... and you can bet they wouldn't argue with him! Good luck :-) BB Peter - " massagesister " <massagesister Friday, July 14, 2006 3:22 PM Worms are people too! > I just picked up my 5 year old son from his art class where todays > project involved dipping live worms into paint and dropping them on > paper. GAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I can't belive his teacher would use an > animal to teach art in this way! Whats the friggen point!? Where is > the lesson in this? She didn't teach my son art, she taught him to > disrespect animals. I'm bad with words folks...could use a little > help in the argument department for when I bring this to the attention > of the school's adminestrators. And by the way, when I complained to > the teacher she acted like I was a loon. Thanks for the help -Cort > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 from the IVU site Animal Protection at School an idea from Austria to copy from EVU News, Issue 1, 1999 -- Since 1990 teachers with a special 'training' go into the Austrian schools at the invitation of the class teacher in order to make students (and teachers) more sensitive for the suffering of animals. Charlotte Probst, a teacher from Graz (pictured right) is the initiator and leader of the project Animal protection in class. She is convinced, that animal protection has to be taught at school in special lessons. Young people especially children are not yet conquered by a materialistic world they are still able to be objective and to feel compassion. They are the future. If they are able to feel the pains of a suffering animal they will also feel the pains of a suffering person she is convinced. Known personalities supported her idea, when she tried to win representatives from the ministry of education for her project, she had to fight against prejudices, lobbies and economic sectors, but her determination and her love for animals helped her to succeed in the long run. Teachers get two weeks extra training at college for this special task, where they learn how to teach young people, and adults an idea of the awe for life, and that creation is one whole thing.-The lessons at school are divided in three parts: ethics, information and how to find solutions (what can I do?). The instruction is given from the first to the ninth class and differs of course, according to the age of the young students. Films and slides are very important aids during the lessons. Until today about 500,000 students from more than 6,000 schools from different parts of Austria have been made attentive on the dreadful situation of animals in their country. Especially animal farms and laboratories for vivisection are mentioned in the lessons, also the situation of the fur animals, chicken, pets etc. Imagine if this idea could be copied in every country! Ask for more information: Charlotte Probst Bundesverein Tierbefreier Österreichs Neupauerweg 29b, A-8052 Graz Tel. ++43-316-581320 Fax ++43-316-581284 Defending this corruption on which you are sat You tell me what to think, you tell me this and that `Freedom is O.K. you scum` but make sure it`s never used In your defence of liberty I always stand accused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Perhaps if the teacher has a pet, you could suggest that she brings that in and you could all paint that and let a bunch of 5 year olds roll it around on some paper, or maybe even her kids, or why not just get some old folks from the nearest home, paint them and throw them around............ The Valley Vegan.................massagesister <massagesister wrote: I just picked up my 5 year old son from his art class where todays project involved dipping live worms into paint and dropping them on paper. GAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I can't belive his teacher would use an animal to teach art in this way! Whats the friggen point!? Where is the lesson in this? She didn't teach my son art, she taught him to disrespect animals. I'm bad with words folks...could use a little help in the argument department for when I bring this to the attention of the school's adminestrators. And by the way, when I complained to the teacher she acted like I was a loon. Thanks for the help -Cort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 well I think that is so sad. I went to school to be a preschool teacher and I would never do that. I also wouldn't do that hatching chickens from eggs cause I saw what kids do to the babies. I still haven't got over that. The preschool that I had to get my schooling from did that and one of the kids grabbed one of the babies and wouldn't put id down so the teacher chased him around the room. The kid got so mad when told to put it down that he threw it against a wall. I was so horrified and told my school that I didn't feel this was right and the animals are suffering for what. The kids are really not learning anything. I also got my school to stop using frogs in our lab classes cause I was so upset I couldn't do that lab assignments. They made us pith our own frogs but I was aloud to go outside while they did that but when I came back he was still suffering. I am getting upset just telling you guys so I am going to stop. - massagesister Friday, July 14, 2006 10:22 AM Worms are people too! I just picked up my 5 year old son from his art class where todays project involved dipping live worms into paint and dropping them on paper. GAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I can't belive his teacher would use an animal to teach art in this way! Whats the friggen point!? Where is the lesson in this? She didn't teach my son art, she taught him to disrespect animals. I'm bad with words folks...could use a little help in the argument department for when I bring this to the attention of the school's adminestrators. And by the way, when I complained to the teacher she acted like I was a loon. Thanks for the help -Cort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hey Tara, sorry to hear that. It obviously upset you a lot. The Valley Vegan.............Tara Van Nostrand <et0ile13 wrote: well I think that is so sad. I went to school to be a preschool teacher and I would never do that. I also wouldn't do that hatching chickens from eggs cause I saw what kids do to the babies. I still haven't got over that. The preschool that I had to get my schooling from did that and one of the kids grabbed one of the babies and wouldn't put id down so the teacher chased him around the room. The kid got so mad when told to put it down that he threw it against a wall. I was so horrified and told my school that I didn't feel this was right and the animals are suffering for what. The kids are really not learning anything. I also got my school to stop using frogs in our lab classes cause I was so upset I couldn't do that lab assignments. They made us pith our own frogs but I was aloud to go outside while they did that but when I came back he was still suffering. I am getting upset just telling you guys so I am going to stop. - massagesister Friday, July 14, 2006 10:22 AM Worms are people too! I just picked up my 5 year old son from his art class where todays project involved dipping live worms into paint and dropping them on paper. GAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I can't belive his teacher would use an animal to teach art in this way! Whats the friggen point!? Where is the lesson in this? She didn't teach my son art, she taught him to disrespect animals. I'm bad with words folks...could use a little help in the argument department for when I bring this to the attention of the school's adminestrators. And by the way, when I complained to the teacher she acted like I was a loon. Thanks for the help -Cort Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hi Cort, YUCK! I don't blame you for being upset one bit! I would call the school district immediately and ask them if cruelty is something that usually they condone in their classrooms. Nikki , " massagesister " <massagesister wrote: > > I just picked up my 5 year old son from his art class where todays > project involved dipping live worms into paint and dropping them on > paper. GAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I can't belive his teacher would use an > animal to teach art in this way! Whats the friggen point!? Where is > the lesson in this? She didn't teach my son art, she taught him to > disrespect animals. I'm bad with words folks...could use a little > help in the argument department for when I bring this to the attention > of the school's adminestrators. And by the way, when I complained to > the teacher she acted like I was a loon. Thanks for the help - Cort > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hi Peter > I think I would be inclined to point out to the school that if they teach > children to disrespect one form of life, they are teaching them to > disrespect *all* forms of life, which can only lead to creating bullies. Excellent point! BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 ROFL! Hey, my Gramma might enjoy that! (and I am not disrespecting her in any way I promise you) Nikki , peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > Perhaps if the teacher has a pet, you could suggest that she brings that in and you could all paint that and let a bunch of 5 year olds roll it around on some paper, or maybe even her kids, or why not just get some old folks from the nearest home, paint them and throw them around............ > > > The Valley Vegan................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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