Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 no...really... Lebanon Says Death Toll Could Reach 600 The Lebanese government says the death toll in the two weeks of Israeli bombing could be as high 600. Earlier today, at least eleven Lebanese were killed in dozens of Israeli strikes on south Lebanon. The news comes as Israel has announced a massive call-up of up to 30,000 reserve troops. Israeli military radio told south Lebanese Thursday that Israeli forces " will totally destroy any village from which missiles are fired toward Israel.†Earlier this morning we reached independent journalist Dahr Jamail in Beirut. Independent Journalist Dahr Jamail: “The official death toll [of 400] is far too low. I actually called down to a hospital in Sidon yesterday and spoke with a doctor there and he said that he felt that the number should be at least adding 250 to that total at a minimum and likely double. The doctor told me that they are receiving countless people in that hospital alone but the problem was that just like here in South Beirut there are so many buildings that have been so utterly demolished with families inside that there is no way to get the bodies.†Israel Bombs Infrastructure, Relief Trucks, Ambulance The destruction to Lebanese infrastructure continues. Israel bombed a field of radio and television relay stations belonging to Lebanon’s state broadcaster. In the eastern Bekaa Valley, Israeli warplanes hit three trucks carrying food to Beirut. One driver was killed. It was at least the second attack on aid vehicles in as many days. On Wednesday, an Israeli warplane hit a truck carrying medical and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates. The driver and two others were killed. The strike came a week to the day Israel hit another truck carrying supplies from the Arab Emirates, also killing the driver. In Beirut, a resident spoke Thursday while touring the damage to his neighborhood. Beirut resident Hassan Al Mukdad: " What should I say? The destruction here expresses how civilized the Americans and the Israelis are. What you see here is a safe residential area. There are no militants here. " Meanwhile photographs have emerged showing a Lebanese ambulance was bombed earlier this week even though the vehicle was clearly marked as an emergency vehicle. The photos show the roof of the ambulance smashed and pockmarked. Robert Fisk of the London Independent wrote that Israel’s missiles pierced the very centre of the red cross painted on the roof, raising speculation the pilots used the cross as a target. Hezbollah Fires 110 Rockets Into Israel Meanwhile, Hezbollah fighters fired at least 110 rockets at Israeli border towns Thursday. No injuries were reported. UNICEF: Nearly One-Third of Lebanese Victims Are Children Children continue to pay a heavy price in the attack on Lebanon, forced to take refuge in schools, mosques and shelters around the country. UNICEF Directory for Emergency Programs Daniel Toole: " We estimate that at least thirty percent of the casualties of those dead, are children. That is a very high level. We estimate that probably 45 percent of the displaced are children because there are so many people on the move. That's a very very high number and it means that we have much higher rates of dependency of assistance in this beginning period.†Israel Admits To Dropping Cluster Bombs Meanwhile, the Israeli military has admitted it has been using cluster bombs. Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch said Israel is shelling civilian areas with cluster bombs in violation of international law. Israel says its used the weapons lawfully. Peter Bookert, Emergencies Director at Human Rights Watch: " It's very disturbing to see that Israel is using cluster bombs in populated areas because we documented in Iraq and in Kosovo the severe effect on the civilian population of the use of this very indiscriminate weapon. " 5 Palestinians Die in Israeli Attacks on Gaza Israeli airstrikes continue to kill Palestinians in the Gaza Strip – at least five on Thursday. The dead include 75-year old woman whose home was hit by an Israeli missile. Funerals have become a daily phenomenon. Two young children and their mother were laid to rest Thursday. They were among the 24 Palestinians killed in Israeli strikes the day before. It was the highest single-day Palestinian death toll in two weeks. At least 149 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s month-long assault following the capture of the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. On Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh rejected the comments from Palestinian President Mahmound Abbas that a deal for Shalit’s release is imminent. Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh: “The Palestinian government has said from the beginning the subject of the prisoner soldier should be solved on the basis of diplomatic negotiations and on the basis that there are 10,000 Palestinian prisoners suffering inside the Israeli prisons. We said that this issue should find a fair, just and equal solution.†Israel Rejects Joint Investigation With UN on Observer Killings In other news, Israel has dismissed UN Secretary General Koffi Annan’s call for a joint investigation into the deadly Israeli air bombing of a UN base. The UN says it wants to be part of a probe into Tuesday’s strike, which killed four international observers. Koffi Annan has accused Israel of deliberately attacking the base. According to UN officials, Israel was asked a dozen times to stop firing on the observers. In total, Israel launched more than twenty strikes around the base. The bombing continued even as rescuers tried to save the victims. Israel denies the attack was intentional. There is concern the bombing will lead to the withdrawal of international monitors and aid workers. On Thursday, the Australian government said it was withdrawing a dozen specialists who were helping with evacuation efforts in south Lebanon. Israel Rules Out UN Involvement in International Force Meanwhile, Israel has also ruled out major UN involvement in any possible international force in Lebanon. In a speech to an Israel advocacy group Thursday, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman said Israel would only accept “an international, [professional] force, with soldiers from countries who have the training and capabilities to be effective. " Speculation is growing a possible international force would include US troops. Harper’s Magazine correspondent Ken Silverstein is reporting a highly-placed former CIA officer says the Bush Administration is considering deploying troops. According to the former officer, the proposal is meeting resistance from Pentagon officials who say the military is overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan. Israeli Justice Minister: World Gave “Green Light†For Continued Attack Meanwhile, Israel's Justice Minister, Haim Ramon is drawing controversy for claiming the indecision at this week’s conference in Rome means Israel has been given “a green light†to continue attacking Lebanon. European Union officials have rejected Ramon’s statement. The talks broke down after the US and Britain blocked an international effort for an immediate ceasefire. President Bush Dismisses Ceasefire Calls, Blames Iran President Bush continues to dismiss ceasefire calls. Speaking at the White House Thursday, Bush also suggested Iran bore responsibility for the current conflict. President Bush: " I -- you know, I -- I believe this; I believe that -- that, as Condi said yesterday, the Middle East is littered with, you know, agreements that just didn't work. And now's the time to address the root cause of the problem, and the root cause of the problem is terrorist groups trying to stop the advance of democracies. Hizbollah attacked Israel. I believe Hizbollah -- I know Hizbollah is connected to Iran. And now's the time for the world to confront this danger.†Lebanese PM Blasts US Support for Lebanon Attack Meanwhile, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud criticized the US government’s support for Israel’s continued bombing. Lebanese President Emile Lahoud: " It was a huge disappointment. They should have called on an immediate ceasefire. Most Arab and European nations, who were silent at first, were now asking for a ceasefire. But unfortunately the United States is supporting Israel until the very end and rejected that call. " Al-Qaeda Urges Attacks Against Israel, Allies In other news, Al-Qaeda has released a new recording urging Muslims to attack Israel and its allies over the ongoing Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Gaza. On the tape, Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri says his group will not stand by while Israel attacks Lebanon and Gaza. Zawahari also calls the world an “open battlefield†and says because “Muslims are being attacked everywhere, Al-Qaeda will attack everywhere.†It was the first Al-Qaeda statement to address Israel's attack on Lebanon. " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. 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Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 hi fraggle I'm sure it is beautiful there, but there are a lot of illegal (dumb word) belizians trying to stay in the states. at least the ones I know here in florida. one of my neighbors had a baby in the US so that she can stay here legally because the level of poverty there is pretty bad. my dad's family is from lebanon, my grandma was born there. it's really sad what's going on. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > no...really... > > Lebanon Says Death Toll Could Reach 600 > The Lebanese government says the death toll in the two weeks of Israeli bombing could be as high 600. Earlier today, at least eleven Lebanese were killed in dozens of Israeli strikes on south Lebanon. The news comes as Israel has announced a massive call-up of up to 30,000 reserve troops. Israeli military radio told south Lebanese Thursday that Israeli forces " will totally destroy any village from which missiles are fired toward Israel.†Earlier this morning we reached independent journalist Dahr Jamail in Beirut. > > Independent Journalist Dahr Jamail: “The official death toll [of 400] is far too low. I actually called down to a hospital in Sidon yesterday and spoke with a doctor there and he said that he felt that the number should be at least adding 250 to that total at a minimum and likely double. The doctor told me that they are receiving countless people in that hospital alone but the problem was that just like here in South Beirut there are so many buildings that have been so utterly demolished with families inside that there is no way to get the bodies.†> > > Israel Bombs Infrastructure, Relief Trucks, Ambulance > The destruction to Lebanese infrastructure continues. Israel bombed a field of radio and television relay stations belonging to Lebanon’s state broadcaster. In the eastern Bekaa Valley, Israeli warplanes hit three trucks carrying food to Beirut. One driver was killed. It was at least the second attack on aid vehicles in as many days. On Wednesday, an Israeli warplane hit a truck carrying medical and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates. The driver and two others were killed. The strike came a week to the day Israel hit another truck carrying supplies from the Arab Emirates, also killing the driver. In Beirut, a resident spoke Thursday while touring the damage to his neighborhood. > > Beirut resident Hassan Al Mukdad: " What should I say? The destruction here expresses how civilized the Americans and the Israelis are. What you see here is a safe residential area. There are no militants here. " > Meanwhile photographs have emerged showing a Lebanese ambulance was bombed earlier this week even though the vehicle was clearly marked as an emergency vehicle. The photos show the roof of the ambulance smashed and pockmarked. Robert Fisk of the London Independent wrote that Israel’s missiles pierced the very centre of the red cross painted on the roof, raising speculation the pilots used the cross as a target. > > Hezbollah Fires 110 Rockets Into Israel > Meanwhile, Hezbollah fighters fired at least 110 rockets at Israeli border towns Thursday. No injuries were reported. > > > UNICEF: Nearly One-Third of Lebanese Victims Are Children > Children continue to pay a heavy price in the attack on Lebanon, forced to take refuge in schools, mosques and shelters around the country. > > UNICEF Directory for Emergency Programs Daniel Toole: " We estimate that at least thirty percent of the casualties of those dead, are children. That is a very high level. We estimate that probably 45 percent of the displaced are children because there are so many people on the move. That's a very very high number and it means that we have much higher rates of dependency of assistance in this beginning period.†> Israel Admits To Dropping Cluster Bombs > Meanwhile, the Israeli military has admitted it has been using cluster bombs. Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch said Israel is shelling civilian areas with cluster bombs in violation of international law. Israel says its used the weapons lawfully. > > Peter Bookert, Emergencies Director at Human Rights Watch: " It's very disturbing to see that Israel is using cluster bombs in populated areas because we documented in Iraq and in Kosovo the severe effect on the civilian population of the use of this very indiscriminate weapon. " > > 5 Palestinians Die in Israeli Attacks on Gaza > Israeli airstrikes continue to kill Palestinians in the Gaza Strip †" at least five on Thursday. The dead include 75-year old woman whose home was hit by an Israeli missile. Funerals have become a daily phenomenon. Two young children and their mother were laid to rest Thursday. They were among the 24 Palestinians killed in Israeli strikes the day before. It was the highest single-day Palestinian death toll in two weeks. At least 149 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s month-long assault following the capture of the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. On Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh rejected the comments from Palestinian President Mahmound Abbas that a deal for Shalit’s release is imminent. > > Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh: “The Palestinian government has said from the beginning the subject of the prisoner soldier should be solved on the basis of diplomatic negotiations and on the basis that there are 10,000 Palestinian prisoners suffering inside the Israeli prisons. We said that this issue should find a fair, just and equal solution.†> > Israel Rejects Joint Investigation With UN on Observer Killings > In other news, Israel has dismissed UN Secretary General Koffi Annan’s call for a joint investigation into the deadly Israeli air bombing of a UN base. The UN says it wants to be part of a probe into Tuesday’s strike, which killed four international observers. Koffi Annan has accused Israel of deliberately attacking the base. According to UN officials, Israel was asked a dozen times to stop firing on the observers. In total, Israel launched more than twenty strikes around the base. The bombing continued even as rescuers tried to save the victims. Israel denies the attack was intentional. There is concern the bombing will lead to the withdrawal of international monitors and aid workers. On Thursday, the Australian government said it was withdrawing a dozen specialists who were helping with evacuation efforts in south Lebanon. > > Israel Rules Out UN Involvement in International Force > Meanwhile, Israel has also ruled out major UN involvement in any possible international force in Lebanon. In a speech to an Israel advocacy group Thursday, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman said Israel would only accept “an international, [professional] force, with soldiers from countries who have the training and capabilities to be effective. " Speculation is growing a possible international force would include US troops. Harper’s Magazine correspondent Ken Silverstein is reporting a highly-placed former CIA officer says the Bush Administration is considering deploying troops. According to the former officer, the proposal is meeting resistance from Pentagon officials who say the military is overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan. > > Israeli Justice Minister: World Gave “Green Light†For Continued Attack > Meanwhile, Israel's Justice Minister, Haim Ramon is drawing controversy for claiming the indecision at this week’s conference in Rome means Israel has been given “a green light†to continue attacking Lebanon. European Union officials have rejected Ramon’s statement. The talks broke down after the US and Britain blocked an international effort for an immediate ceasefire. > > President Bush Dismisses Ceasefire Calls, Blames Iran > President Bush continues to dismiss ceasefire calls. Speaking at the White House Thursday, Bush also suggested Iran bore responsibility for the current conflict. > > President Bush: " I -- you know, I -- I believe this; I believe that -- that, as Condi said yesterday, the Middle East is littered with, you know, agreements that just didn't work. And now's the time to address the root cause of the problem, and the root cause of the problem is terrorist groups trying to stop the advance of democracies. Hizbollah attacked Israel. I believe Hizbollah -- I know Hizbollah is connected to Iran. And now's the time for the world to confront this danger.†> > Lebanese PM Blasts US Support for Lebanon Attack > Meanwhile, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud criticized the US government’s support for Israel’s continued bombing. > > Lebanese President Emile Lahoud: " It was a huge disappointment. They should have called on an immediate ceasefire. Most Arab and European nations, who were silent at first, were now asking for a ceasefire. But unfortunately the United States is supporting Israel until the very end and rejected that call. " > > Al-Qaeda Urges Attacks Against Israel, Allies > In other news, Al-Qaeda has released a new recording urging Muslims to attack Israel and its allies over the ongoing Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Gaza. On the tape, Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri says his group will not stand by while Israel attacks Lebanon and Gaza. Zawahari also calls the world an “open battlefield†and says because “Muslims are being attacked everywhere, Al-Qaeda will attack everywhere.†It was the first Al-Qaeda statement to address Israel's attack on Lebanon. > > > " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. 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Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 yeah...i know employment is harsh but..save up..get a plot of land and oh..who am i kidding... costa rica....they don't have an army! >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >Jul 28, 2006 11:52 AM > > Re: anyone know how easy it is to move to Belize? > >hi fraggle > >I'm sure it is beautiful there, but there are a lot of >illegal (dumb word) belizians trying to stay in the states. > >at least the ones I know here in florida. >one of my neighbors had a baby in the US so that she >can stay here legally because the level >of poverty there is pretty bad. > >my dad's family is from lebanon, my grandma was born there. >it's really sad what's going on. > > > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: >> >> no...really... >> >> Lebanon Says Death Toll Could Reach 600 >> The Lebanese government says the death toll in the two weeks of >Israeli bombing could be as high 600. Earlier today, at least eleven >Lebanese were killed in dozens of Israeli strikes on south Lebanon. >The news comes as Israel has announced a massive call-up of up to >30,000 reserve troops. Israeli military radio told south Lebanese >Thursday that Israeli forces " will totally destroy any village from >which missiles are fired toward Israel.†Earlier this morning we >reached independent journalist Dahr Jamail in Beirut. >> >> Independent Journalist Dahr Jamail: “The official death toll [of >400] is far too low. I actually called down to a hospital in Sidon >yesterday and spoke with a doctor there and he said that he felt that >the number should be at least adding 250 to that total at a minimum >and likely double. The doctor told me that they are receiving >countless people in that hospital alone but the problem was that just >like here in South Beirut there are so many buildings that have been >so utterly demolished with families inside that there is no way to get >the bodies.†>> >> >> Israel Bombs Infrastructure, Relief Trucks, Ambulance >> The destruction to Lebanese infrastructure continues. Israel bombed >a field of radio and television relay stations belonging to >Lebanon’s state broadcaster. In the eastern Bekaa Valley, Israeli >warplanes hit three trucks carrying food to Beirut. One driver was >killed. It was at least the second attack on aid vehicles in as many >days. On Wednesday, an Israeli warplane hit a truck carrying medical >and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates. The >driver and two others were killed. The strike came a week to the day >Israel hit another truck carrying supplies from the Arab Emirates, >also killing the driver. In Beirut, a resident spoke Thursday while >touring the damage to his neighborhood. >> >> Beirut resident Hassan Al Mukdad: " What should I say? The >destruction here expresses how civilized the Americans and the >Israelis are. What you see here is a safe residential area. There are >no militants here. " >> Meanwhile photographs have emerged showing a Lebanese ambulance was >bombed earlier this week even though the vehicle was clearly marked as >an emergency vehicle. The photos show the roof of the ambulance >smashed and pockmarked. Robert Fisk of the London Independent wrote >that Israel’s missiles pierced the very centre of the red cross >painted on the roof, raising speculation the pilots used the cross as >a target. >> >> Hezbollah Fires 110 Rockets Into Israel >> Meanwhile, Hezbollah fighters fired at least 110 rockets at Israeli >border towns Thursday. No injuries were reported. >> >> >> UNICEF: Nearly One-Third of Lebanese Victims Are Children >> Children continue to pay a heavy price in the attack on Lebanon, >forced to take refuge in schools, mosques and shelters around the >country. >> >> UNICEF Directory for Emergency Programs Daniel Toole: " We estimate >that at least thirty percent of the casualties of those dead, are >children. That is a very high level. We estimate that probably 45 >percent of the displaced are children because there are so many people >on the move. That's a very very high number and it means that we have >much higher rates of dependency of assistance in this beginning period.†>> Israel Admits To Dropping Cluster Bombs >> Meanwhile, the Israeli military has admitted it has been using >cluster bombs. Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch said Israel is >shelling civilian areas with cluster bombs in violation of >international law. Israel says its used the weapons lawfully. >> >> Peter Bookert, Emergencies Director at Human Rights Watch: " It's >very disturbing to see that Israel is using cluster bombs in populated >areas because we documented in Iraq and in Kosovo the severe effect on >the civilian population of the use of this very indiscriminate weapon. " >> >> 5 Palestinians Die in Israeli Attacks on Gaza >> Israeli airstrikes continue to kill Palestinians in the Gaza Strip >†" at least five on Thursday. The dead include 75-year old woman >whose home was hit by an Israeli missile. Funerals have become a daily >phenomenon. Two young children and their mother were laid to rest >Thursday. They were among the 24 Palestinians killed in Israeli >strikes the day before. It was the highest single-day Palestinian >death toll in two weeks. At least 149 Palestinians have been killed in >Israel’s month-long assault following the capture of the Israeli >soldier Gilad Shalit. On Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail >Haniyeh rejected the comments from Palestinian President Mahmound >Abbas that a deal for Shalit’s release is imminent. >> >> Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh: “The Palestinian >government has said from the beginning the subject of the prisoner >soldier should be solved on the basis of diplomatic negotiations and >on the basis that there are 10,000 Palestinian prisoners suffering >inside the Israeli prisons. We said that this issue should find a >fair, just and equal solution.†>> >> Israel Rejects Joint Investigation With UN on Observer Killings >> In other news, Israel has dismissed UN Secretary General Koffi >Annan’s call for a joint investigation into the deadly Israeli air >bombing of a UN base. The UN says it wants to be part of a probe into >Tuesday’s strike, which killed four international observers. Koffi >Annan has accused Israel of deliberately attacking the base. According >to UN officials, Israel was asked a dozen times to stop firing on the >observers. In total, Israel launched more than twenty strikes around >the base. The bombing continued even as rescuers tried to save the >victims. Israel denies the attack was intentional. There is concern >the bombing will lead to the withdrawal of international monitors and >aid workers. On Thursday, the Australian government said it was >withdrawing a dozen specialists who were helping with evacuation >efforts in south Lebanon. >> >> Israel Rules Out UN Involvement in International Force >> Meanwhile, Israel has also ruled out major UN involvement in any >possible international force in Lebanon. In a speech to an Israel >advocacy group Thursday, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman >said Israel would only accept “an international, [professional] >force, with soldiers from countries who have the training and >capabilities to be effective. " Speculation is growing a possible >international force would include US troops. Harper’s Magazine >correspondent Ken Silverstein is reporting a highly-placed former CIA >officer says the Bush Administration is considering deploying troops. >According to the former officer, the proposal is meeting resistance >from Pentagon officials who say the military is overstretched in Iraq >and Afghanistan. >> >> Israeli Justice Minister: World Gave “Green Light†For Continued >Attack >> Meanwhile, Israel's Justice Minister, Haim Ramon is drawing >controversy for claiming the indecision at this week’s conference in >Rome means Israel has been given “a green light†to continue >attacking Lebanon. European Union officials have rejected Ramon’s >statement. The talks broke down after the US and Britain blocked an >international effort for an immediate ceasefire. >> >> President Bush Dismisses Ceasefire Calls, Blames Iran >> President Bush continues to dismiss ceasefire calls. Speaking at the >White House Thursday, Bush also suggested Iran bore responsibility for >the current conflict. >> >> President Bush: " I -- you know, I -- I believe this; I believe that >-- that, as Condi said yesterday, the Middle East is littered with, >you know, agreements that just didn't work. And now's the time to >address the root cause of the problem, and the root cause of the >problem is terrorist groups trying to stop the advance of democracies. >Hizbollah attacked Israel. I believe Hizbollah -- I know Hizbollah is >connected to Iran. And now's the time for the world to confront this >danger.†>> >> Lebanese PM Blasts US Support for Lebanon Attack >> Meanwhile, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud criticized the US >government’s support for Israel’s continued bombing. >> >> Lebanese President Emile Lahoud: " It was a huge disappointment. They >should have called on an immediate ceasefire. Most Arab and European >nations, who were silent at first, were now asking for a ceasefire. >But unfortunately the United States is supporting Israel until the >very end and rejected that call. " >> >> Al-Qaeda Urges Attacks Against Israel, Allies >> In other news, Al-Qaeda has released a new recording urging Muslims >to attack Israel and its allies over the ongoing Israeli attacks on >Lebanon and Gaza. On the tape, Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri says >his group will not stand by while Israel attacks Lebanon and Gaza. >Zawahari also calls the world an “open battlefield†and says >because “Muslims are being attacked everywhere, Al-Qaeda will >attack everywhere.†It was the first Al-Qaeda statement to address >Israel's attack on Lebanon. >> >> >> " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National >Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or >notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative >oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the >impeachment of the current President. " >> > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 neither does Switzerland? The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: yeah...i know employment is harshbut..save up..get a plot of land andoh..who am i kidding...costa rica....they don't have an army!>Anouk Sickler >Jul 28, 2006 11:52 AM> > Re: anyone know how easy it is to move to Belize?>>hi fraggle>>I'm sure it is beautiful there, but there are a lot of >illegal (dumb word) belizians trying to stay in the states.>>at least the ones I know here in florida. >one of my neighbors had a baby in the US so that she >can stay here legally because the level >of poverty there is pretty bad. >>my dad's family is from lebanon, my grandma was born there.>it's really sad what's going on. >>>>>> , fraggle wrote:>>>> no...really...>> >> Lebanon Says Death Toll Could Reach 600>> The Lebanese government says the death toll in the two weeks of>Israeli bombing could be as high 600. Earlier today, at least eleven>Lebanese were killed in dozens of Israeli strikes on south Lebanon.>The news comes as Israel has announced a massive call-up of up to>30,000 reserve troops. Israeli military radio told south Lebanese>Thursday that Israeli forces "will totally destroy any village from>which missiles are fired toward Israel.†Earlier this morning we>reached independent journalist Dahr Jamail in Beirut. >> >> Independent Journalist Dahr Jamail: “The official death toll [of>400] is far too low. I actually called down to a hospital in Sidon>yesterday and spoke with a doctor there and he said that he felt that>the number should be at least adding 250 to that total at a minimum>and likely double. The doctor told me that they are receiving>countless people in that hospital alone but the problem was that just>like here in South Beirut there are so many buildings that have been>so utterly demolished with families inside that there is no way to get>the bodies.â€>> >> >> Israel Bombs Infrastructure, Relief Trucks, Ambulance>> The destruction to Lebanese infrastructure continues. Israel bombed>a field of radio and television relay stations belonging to>Lebanon’s state broadcaster. In the eastern Bekaa Valley, Israeli>warplanes hit three trucks carrying food to Beirut. One driver was>killed. It was at least the second attack on aid vehicles in as many>days. On Wednesday, an Israeli warplane hit a truck carrying medical>and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates. The>driver and two others were killed. The strike came a week to the day>Israel hit another truck carrying supplies from the Arab Emirates,>also killing the driver. In Beirut, a resident spoke Thursday while>touring the damage to his neighborhood. >> >> Beirut resident Hassan Al Mukdad: "What should I say? The>destruction here expresses how civilized the Americans and the>Israelis are. What you see here is a safe residential area. There are>no militants here.">> Meanwhile photographs have emerged showing a Lebanese ambulance was>bombed earlier this week even though the vehicle was clearly marked as>an emergency vehicle. The photos show the roof of the ambulance>smashed and pockmarked. Robert Fisk of the London Independent wrote>that Israel’s missiles pierced the very centre of the red cross>painted on the roof, raising speculation the pilots used the cross as>a target. >> >> Hezbollah Fires 110 Rockets Into Israel>> Meanwhile, Hezbollah fighters fired at least 110 rockets at Israeli>border towns Thursday. No injuries were reported. >> >> >> UNICEF: Nearly One-Third of Lebanese Victims Are Children>> Children continue to pay a heavy price in the attack on Lebanon,>forced to take refuge in schools, mosques and shelters around the>country. >> >> UNICEF Directory for Emergency Programs Daniel Toole: "We estimate>that at least thirty percent of the casualties of those dead, are>children. That is a very high level. We estimate that probably 45>percent of the displaced are children because there are so many people>on the move. That's a very very high number and it means that we have>much higher rates of dependency of assistance in this beginning period.â€>> Israel Admits To Dropping Cluster Bombs>> Meanwhile, the Israeli military has admitted it has been using>cluster bombs. Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch said Israel is>shelling civilian areas with cluster bombs in violation of>international law. Israel says its used the weapons lawfully. >> >> Peter Bookert, Emergencies Director at Human Rights Watch: "It's>very disturbing to see that Israel is using cluster bombs in populated>areas because we documented in Iraq and in Kosovo the severe effect on>the civilian population of the use of this very indiscriminate weapon.">> >> 5 Palestinians Die in Israeli Attacks on Gaza>> Israeli airstrikes continue to kill Palestinians in the Gaza Strip>â€" at least five on Thursday. The dead include 75-year old woman>whose home was hit by an Israeli missile. Funerals have become a daily>phenomenon. Two young children and their mother were laid to rest>Thursday. They were among the 24 Palestinians killed in Israeli>strikes the day before. It was the highest single-day Palestinian>death toll in two weeks. At least 149 Palestinians have been killed in>Israel’s month-long assault following the capture of the Israeli>soldier Gilad Shalit. On Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail>Haniyeh rejected the comments from Palestinian President Mahmound>Abbas that a deal for Shalit’s release is imminent. >> >> Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh: “The Palestinian>government has said from the beginning the subject of the prisoner>soldier should be solved on the basis of diplomatic negotiations and>on the basis that there are 10,000 Palestinian prisoners suffering>inside the Israeli prisons. We said that this issue should find a>fair, just and equal solution.â€>> >> Israel Rejects Joint Investigation With UN on Observer Killings>> In other news, Israel has dismissed UN Secretary General Koffi>Annan’s call for a joint investigation into the deadly Israeli air>bombing of a UN base. The UN says it wants to be part of a probe into>Tuesday’s strike, which killed four international observers. Koffi>Annan has accused Israel of deliberately attacking the base. According>to UN officials, Israel was asked a dozen times to stop firing on the>observers. In total, Israel launched more than twenty strikes around>the base. The bombing continued even as rescuers tried to save the>victims. Israel denies the attack was intentional. There is concern>the bombing will lead to the withdrawal of international monitors and>aid workers. On Thursday, the Australian government said it was>withdrawing a dozen specialists who were helping with evacuation>efforts in south Lebanon. >> >> Israel Rules Out UN Involvement in International Force>> Meanwhile, Israel has also ruled out major UN involvement in any>possible international force in Lebanon. In a speech to an Israel>advocacy group Thursday, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman>said Israel would only accept “an international, [professional]>force, with soldiers from countries who have the training and>capabilities to be effective." Speculation is growing a possible>international force would include US troops. Harper’s Magazine>correspondent Ken Silverstein is reporting a highly-placed former CIA>officer says the Bush Administration is considering deploying troops.>According to the former officer, the proposal is meeting resistance>from Pentagon officials who say the military is overstretched in Iraq>and Afghanistan. >> >> Israeli Justice Minister: World Gave “Green Light†For Continued>Attack>> Meanwhile, Israel's Justice Minister, Haim Ramon is drawing>controversy for claiming the indecision at this week’s conference in>Rome means Israel has been given “a green light†to continue>attacking Lebanon. European Union officials have rejected Ramon’s>statement. The talks broke down after the US and Britain blocked an>international effort for an immediate ceasefire. >> >> President Bush Dismisses Ceasefire Calls, Blames Iran>> President Bush continues to dismiss ceasefire calls. Speaking at the>White House Thursday, Bush also suggested Iran bore responsibility for>the current conflict. >> >> President Bush: " I -- you know, I -- I believe this; I believe that>-- that, as Condi said yesterday, the Middle East is littered with,>you know, agreements that just didn't work. And now's the time to>address the root cause of the problem, and the root cause of the>problem is terrorist groups trying to stop the advance of democracies.>Hizbollah attacked Israel. I believe Hizbollah -- I know Hizbollah is>connected to Iran. And now's the time for the world to confront this>danger.â€>> >> Lebanese PM Blasts US Support for Lebanon Attack>> Meanwhile, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud criticized the US>government’s support for Israel’s continued bombing. >> >> Lebanese President Emile Lahoud: "It was a huge disappointment. They>should have called on an immediate ceasefire. Most Arab and European>nations, who were silent at first, were now asking for a ceasefire.>But unfortunately the United States is supporting Israel until the>very end and rejected that call.">> >> Al-Qaeda Urges Attacks Against Israel, Allies>> In other news, Al-Qaeda has released a new recording urging Muslims>to attack Israel and its allies over the ongoing Israeli attacks on>Lebanon and Gaza. On the tape, Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri says>his group will not stand by while Israel attacks Lebanon and Gaza.>Zawahari also calls the world an “open battlefield†and says>because “Muslims are being attacked everywhere, Al-Qaeda will>attack everywhere.†It was the first Al-Qaeda statement to address>Israel's attack on Lebanon. >> >> >> "NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National>Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or>notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative>oversight. 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Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Hi Anouk It is terrible. I don't know how Israel is getting away with it. Jo - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Friday, July 28, 2006 7:52 PM Re: anyone know how easy it is to move to Belize? hi fraggle I'm sure it is beautiful there, but there are a lot of illegal (dumb word) belizians trying to stay in the states. at least the ones I know here in florida. one of my neighbors had a baby in the US so that she can stay here legally because the level of poverty there is pretty bad. my dad's family is from lebanon, my grandma was born there. it's really sad what's going on. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > no...really... > > Lebanon Says Death Toll Could Reach 600 > The Lebanese government says the death toll in the two weeks of Israeli bombing could be as high 600. Earlier today, at least eleven Lebanese were killed in dozens of Israeli strikes on south Lebanon. The news comes as Israel has announced a massive call-up of up to 30,000 reserve troops. Israeli military radio told south Lebanese Thursday that Israeli forces " will totally destroy any village from which missiles are fired toward Israel.â? Earlier this morning we reached independent journalist Dahr Jamail in Beirut. > > Independent Journalist Dahr Jamail: â?oThe official death toll [of 400] is far too low. I actually called down to a hospital in Sidon yesterday and spoke with a doctor there and he said that he felt that the number should be at least adding 250 to that total at a minimum and likely double. The doctor told me that they are receiving countless people in that hospital alone but the problem was that just like here in South Beirut there are so many buildings that have been so utterly demolished with families inside that there is no way to get the bodies.â? > > > Israel Bombs Infrastructure, Relief Trucks, Ambulance > The destruction to Lebanese infrastructure continues. Israel bombed a field of radio and television relay stations belonging to Lebanonâ?Ts state broadcaster. In the eastern Bekaa Valley, Israeli warplanes hit three trucks carrying food to Beirut. One driver was killed. It was at least the second attack on aid vehicles in as many days. On Wednesday, an Israeli warplane hit a truck carrying medical and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates. The driver and two others were killed. The strike came a week to the day Israel hit another truck carrying supplies from the Arab Emirates, also killing the driver. In Beirut, a resident spoke Thursday while touring the damage to his neighborhood. > > Beirut resident Hassan Al Mukdad: " What should I say? The destruction here expresses how civilized the Americans and the Israelis are. What you see here is a safe residential area. There are no militants here. " > Meanwhile photographs have emerged showing a Lebanese ambulance was bombed earlier this week even though the vehicle was clearly marked as an emergency vehicle. The photos show the roof of the ambulance smashed and pockmarked. Robert Fisk of the London Independent wrote that Israelâ?Ts missiles pierced the very centre of the red cross painted on the roof, raising speculation the pilots used the cross as a target. > > Hezbollah Fires 110 Rockets Into Israel > Meanwhile, Hezbollah fighters fired at least 110 rockets at Israeli border towns Thursday. No injuries were reported. > > > UNICEF: Nearly One-Third of Lebanese Victims Are Children > Children continue to pay a heavy price in the attack on Lebanon, forced to take refuge in schools, mosques and shelters around the country. > > UNICEF Directory for Emergency Programs Daniel Toole: " We estimate that at least thirty percent of the casualties of those dead, are children. That is a very high level. We estimate that probably 45 percent of the displaced are children because there are so many people on the move. That's a very very high number and it means that we have much higher rates of dependency of assistance in this beginning period.â? > Israel Admits To Dropping Cluster Bombs > Meanwhile, the Israeli military has admitted it has been using cluster bombs. Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch said Israel is shelling civilian areas with cluster bombs in violation of international law. Israel says its used the weapons lawfully. > > Peter Bookert, Emergencies Director at Human Rights Watch: " It's very disturbing to see that Israel is using cluster bombs in populated areas because we documented in Iraq and in Kosovo the severe effect on the civilian population of the use of this very indiscriminate weapon. " > > 5 Palestinians Die in Israeli Attacks on Gaza > Israeli airstrikes continue to kill Palestinians in the Gaza Strip â? " at least five on Thursday. The dead include 75-year old woman whose home was hit by an Israeli missile. Funerals have become a daily phenomenon. Two young children and their mother were laid to rest Thursday. They were among the 24 Palestinians killed in Israeli strikes the day before. It was the highest single-day Palestinian death toll in two weeks. At least 149 Palestinians have been killed in Israelâ?Ts month-long assault following the capture of the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. On Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh rejected the comments from Palestinian President Mahmound Abbas that a deal for Shalitâ?Ts release is imminent. > > Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh: â?oThe Palestinian government has said from the beginning the subject of the prisoner soldier should be solved on the basis of diplomatic negotiations and on the basis that there are 10,000 Palestinian prisoners suffering inside the Israeli prisons. We said that this issue should find a fair, just and equal solution.â? > > Israel Rejects Joint Investigation With UN on Observer Killings > In other news, Israel has dismissed UN Secretary General Koffi Annanâ?Ts call for a joint investigation into the deadly Israeli air bombing of a UN base. The UN says it wants to be part of a probe into Tuesdayâ?Ts strike, which killed four international observers. Koffi Annan has accused Israel of deliberately attacking the base. According to UN officials, Israel was asked a dozen times to stop firing on the observers. In total, Israel launched more than twenty strikes around the base. The bombing continued even as rescuers tried to save the victims. Israel denies the attack was intentional. There is concern the bombing will lead to the withdrawal of international monitors and aid workers. On Thursday, the Australian government said it was withdrawing a dozen specialists who were helping with evacuation efforts in south Lebanon. > > Israel Rules Out UN Involvement in International Force > Meanwhile, Israel has also ruled out major UN involvement in any possible international force in Lebanon. In a speech to an Israel advocacy group Thursday, Israelâ?Ts Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman said Israel would only accept â?oan international, [professional] force, with soldiers from countries who have the training and capabilities to be effective. " Speculation is growing a possible international force would include US troops. Harperâ?Ts Magazine correspondent Ken Silverstein is reporting a highly-placed former CIA officer says the Bush Administration is considering deploying troops. According to the former officer, the proposal is meeting resistance from Pentagon officials who say the military is overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan. > > Israeli Justice Minister: World Gave â?oGreen Lightâ? For Continued Attack > Meanwhile, Israel's Justice Minister, Haim Ramon is drawing controversy for claiming the indecision at this weekâ?Ts conference in Rome means Israel has been given â?oa green lightâ? to continue attacking Lebanon. European Union officials have rejected Ramonâ?Ts statement. The talks broke down after the US and Britain blocked an international effort for an immediate ceasefire. > > President Bush Dismisses Ceasefire Calls, Blames Iran > President Bush continues to dismiss ceasefire calls. Speaking at the White House Thursday, Bush also suggested Iran bore responsibility for the current conflict. > > President Bush: " I -- you know, I -- I believe this; I believe that -- that, as Condi said yesterday, the Middle East is littered with, you know, agreements that just didn't work. And now's the time to address the root cause of the problem, and the root cause of the problem is terrorist groups trying to stop the advance of democracies. Hizbollah attacked Israel. I believe Hizbollah -- I know Hizbollah is connected to Iran. And now's the time for the world to confront this danger.â? > > Lebanese PM Blasts US Support for Lebanon Attack > Meanwhile, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud criticized the US governmentâ?Ts support for Israelâ?Ts continued bombing. > > Lebanese President Emile Lahoud: " It was a huge disappointment. They should have called on an immediate ceasefire. Most Arab and European nations, who were silent at first, were now asking for a ceasefire. But unfortunately the United States is supporting Israel until the very end and rejected that call. " > > Al-Qaeda Urges Attacks Against Israel, Allies > In other news, Al-Qaeda has released a new recording urging Muslims to attack Israel and its allies over the ongoing Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Gaza. On the tape, Al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri says his group will not stand by while Israel attacks Lebanon and Gaza. Zawahari also calls the world an â?oopen battlefieldâ? and says because â?oMuslims are being attacked everywhere, Al-Qaeda will attack everywhere.â? It was the first Al-Qaeda statement to address Israel's attack on Lebanon. > > > " NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. 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Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 switzerland has an army and an air force and a navy! their military is strange, in that is almost a militia.... costa rica doesn't have ana army as its against their constitution..tho they do have national police peter VV Jul 28, 2006 12:11 PM Re: Re: anyone know how easy it is to move to Belize? neither does Switzerland? The Valley Vegan............. If George Bush said that the Earth was flat, the headline would read, "Views Differ on Shape of the Earth" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 because if you dare say anything about it you are anti-semitic *shakes head* >jo <jo.heartwork >Jul 28, 2006 12:30 PM > >Re: Re: anyone know how easy it is to move to Belize? > >Hi Anouk > >It is terrible. I don't know how Israel is getting away with it. > >Jo > If George Bush said that the Earth was flat, the headline would read, " Views Differ on Shape of the Earth " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Hi Peter >neither does Switzerland? Switzerland has one of the largest armies in the world... and enforced military service for all 18 to 21(?) year olds.... they just don't tend to join in with other people's wars! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 swistzehuh? must buy chocolate... , " Peter Kebbell " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Peter > > >neither does Switzerland? > > Switzerland has one of the largest armies in the world... and enforced > military service for all 18 to 21(?) year olds.... they just don't tend to > join in with other people's wars! > > BB > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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