Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 There is no point in being a germ phobe, but also no point in not taking some simple steps in sanitation. After all, there are 10 times as many bacteria living in and on your body as there are cells in your body! And most bacteria are not harmful. Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to do just the sort of things you are doing. You know what has the highest concentration of bacteria in your entire house? Not your toilet. Your kitchen sponge! You know, that thing that you wipe all over your counters and your dishes too? Approx 7 billion fecal coliforms per average sponge. So, clean that puppy or change it often! I think that it is good to expose ourselves to environmental bacteria, helps keep our immune systems and our natural flora healthy. I love kefir, kombucha, and lactofermented veggies. That said, I don't intentionally drink bad water or bathe in it, or eat spoiled food. Not do I want to wipe down all my stuff with something that may be growing who knows what. Some bacteria will cause illness even in healthy folks. Richard - Alek Vila RawSeattle Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:48 PM [RawSeattle] hand washing In general, I don't consider myself a germ phobe. I'll eat food that I drop on my kitchen floor or the dirt in a park. That doesn't stop me from cleaning my kitchen floor and counter tops regularly. Also, I regular replace the kitchen sponge that I wash dishes with. Personally, I appreciate hand washing after bathroom use, especially by anyone preparing raw food. The only time I have ever been violently ill was after eating food that was prepared in a raw classroom. I'll withhold the whereabouts and details of what I experienced. Let's just say it was the most intense and difficult body " cleansing " I've ever had. I still can't stand the sight of raw, sprouted quinoa. By the way, I'm also very interested in cheap pricing on raw, organic cacao. The best I've heard is $11/lb, which is what Tom is getting through his co-op... Let me know when the group is ready to place the next order! ~ Alek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? Jo Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans Main Category: Public Health News Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) | email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article Also Appears In MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease transmission. The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked questions about their daily hygiene practices. Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, 75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical Center in New York City, said in an interview. " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria at home than in public places. Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance of a healthy diet. Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand gels in the event that water is unavailable. My Family and Germs By Jill Stein Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. Jillstein03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 when i am in a public bathroom, i have seen some people just wet their hands, and go. my thinking is, doesn't this make it worse, since bacteria love humidity? i do wash well, but I never like the soap, and the way it smells. my english teacher says, that I use too many commas, and that it is a habit, that i must break. hee hee. , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of > doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash > when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? > > Jo > > > Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans > Main Category: Public Health News > Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) > | email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article > Also Appears In > MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses > > > > New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their > hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that > routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease > transmission. > > The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed > Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase > awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the > spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses > such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members > include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. > > For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the > U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, > and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how > infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked > questions about their daily hygiene practices. > > Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, > 75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. > > " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic > class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical > Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical > Center in New York City, said in an interview. > > " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he > added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country > alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 > people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " > > The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for > good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria > at home than in public places. > > Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology > at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., > said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on > the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors > to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the > importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance > of a healthy diet. > > Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can > be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They > recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand > gels in the event that water is unavailable. > > My Family and Germs > > By Jill Stein > Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. > Jillstein03 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hospital? a program in the UK i take it? i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough *shrug* heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >Aug 30, 2006 11:58 PM > > Hand washing > >Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of >doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash >when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? > >Jo > > >Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans >Main Category: Public Health News >Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) >| email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article >Also Appears In >MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses > > > >New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their >hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that >routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease >transmission. > >The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed >Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase >awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the >spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses >such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members >include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. > >For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the >U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, >and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how >infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked >questions about their daily hygiene practices. > >Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, >75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. > > " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic >class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical >Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical >Center in New York City, said in an interview. > > " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he >added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country >alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 >people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " > >The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for >good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria >at home than in public places. > >Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology >at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., >said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on >the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors >to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the >importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance >of a healthy diet. > >Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can >be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They >recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand >gels in the event that water is unavailable. > >My Family and Germs > >By Jill Stein >Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. >Jillstein03 > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I never use the soap either as it is probably not vegan. The Valley Vegan................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: when i am in a public bathroom, i have seen some people just wet their hands, and go.my thinking is, doesn't this make it worse, since bacteria love humidity? i do wash well, but I never like the soap, and the way it smells. my english teacher says, that I use too many commas, and that it is a habit, that i must break. hee hee. , "heartwerk" wrote:>> Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of > doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash > when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience???> > Jo> > > Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans> Main Category: Public Health News> Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT)> | email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article > Also Appears In> MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses > > > > New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their > hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that > routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease > transmission. > > The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed > Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase > awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the > spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses > such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members > include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease.> > For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the > U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, > and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how > infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked > questions about their daily hygiene practices. > > Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, > 75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. > > "Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic > class and education," Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical > Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical > Center in New York City, said in an interview.> > "Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices," he > added. "Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country > alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 > people dying at a cost of five billion dollars."> > The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for > good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria > at home than in public places. > > Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology > at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., > said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on > the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors > to "set the example" and routinely emphasize to their patients the > importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance > of a healthy diet. > > Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can > be "the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection." They > recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand > gels in the event that water is unavailable.> > My Family and Germs> > By Jill Stein> Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer.> Jillstein03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Yeah, I saw it, what I thought was interesting was they said that 30% of the general public are carrying MRSA about at any one time... The Valley Vegan..................heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience???JoHand Washing A Low Priority For Most AmericansMain Category: Public Health NewsArticle 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT)| email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article Also Appears InMRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease transmission. The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease.For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked questions about their daily hygiene practices. Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, 75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. "Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic class and education," Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical Center in New York City, said in an interview."Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices," he added. "Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 people dying at a cost of five billion dollars."The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria at home than in public places. Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors to "set the example" and routinely emphasize to their patients the importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance of a healthy diet. Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can be "the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection." They recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand gels in the event that water is unavailable.My Family and GermsBy Jill SteinJill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer.Jillstein03 To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hi Anouk I quite like commas, particularly in emails as it makes it sound more like chatting. Jo - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:23 PM Re: Hand Washing > when i am in a public bathroom, > > i have seen some people just wet their hands, and go. > > my thinking is, doesn't this make it worse, since > bacteria love humidity? > > i do wash well, but I never like the soap, and the way it smells. > > my english teacher says, that I use too many commas, and that it > is a habit, that i must break. > > hee hee. > > > > , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > > > Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of > > doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash > > when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? > > > > Jo > > > > > > Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans > > Main Category: Public Health News > > Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) > > | email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article > > Also Appears In > > MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses > > > > > > > > New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their > > hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that > > routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease > > transmission. > > > > The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed > > Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase > > awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the > > spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses > > such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members > > include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. > > > > For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the > > U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, > > and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how > > infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked > > questions about their daily hygiene practices. > > > > Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, > > 75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. > > > > " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic > > class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical > > Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical > > Center in New York City, said in an interview. > > > > " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he > > added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country > > alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 > > people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " > > > > The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for > > good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria > > at home than in public places. > > > > Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology > > at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., > > said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on > > the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors > > to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the > > importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance > > of a healthy diet. > > > > Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can > > be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They > > recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand > > gels in the event that water is unavailable. > > > > My Family and Germs > > > > By Jill Stein > > Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. > > Jillstein03 > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 It's not meant to help you - it's meant to help other people whose immune systems have been weakened by illness, surgery or old age. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:55 PM Re: Hand washing > Hospital? > a program in the UK i take it? > > i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough > *shrug* > heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... > > > >heartwerk <jo.heartwork > >Aug 30, 2006 11:58 PM > > > > Hand washing > > > >Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of > >doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash > >when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? > > > >Jo > > > > > >Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans > >Main Category: Public Health News > >Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) > >| email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article > >Also Appears In > >MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses > > > > > > > >New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their > >hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that > >routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease > >transmission. > > > >The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed > >Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase > >awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the > >spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses > >such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members > >include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. > > > >For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the > >U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, > >and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how > >infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked > >questions about their daily hygiene practices. > > > >Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, > >75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. > > > > " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic > >class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical > >Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical > >Center in New York City, said in an interview. > > > > " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he > >added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country > >alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 > >people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " > > > >The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for > >good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria > >at home than in public places. > > > >Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology > >at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., > >said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on > >the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors > >to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the > >importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance > >of a healthy diet. > > > >Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can > >be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They > >recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand > >gels in the event that water is unavailable. > > > >My Family and Germs > > > >By Jill Stein > >Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. > >Jillstein03 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i don't generally walk around touching old people... yes..i know..you mean door knobs and all that >jo <jo.heartwork >Aug 31, 2006 3:04 PM > >Re: Hand washing > >It's not meant to help you - it's meant to help other people whose immune >systems have been weakened by illness, surgery or old age. > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > >Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:55 PM >Re: Hand washing > > >> Hospital? >> a program in the UK i take it? >> >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough >> *shrug* >> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the >road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... >> >> >> >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >> >Aug 30, 2006 11:58 PM >> > >> > Hand washing >> > >> >Did anyone see Kim & Aggie in Hospital last night. Apparently 93% of >> >doctors and 46% of nursing staff did not use the alcohol handwash >> >when entering the ward! Whatever happened to basic hygience??? >> > >> >Jo >> > >> > >> >Hand Washing A Low Priority For Most Americans >> >Main Category: Public Health News >> >Article 30 Aug 2006 - 9:00am (PDT) >> >| email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Article >> >Also Appears In >> >MRSA / Drug ResistanceInfectious Diseases / Bacteria / Viruses >> > >> > >> > >> >New results indicate that 69 percent of Americans fail to wash their >> >hands properly even though 68 percent of them say they believe that >> >routine hand washing is the optimal method for thwarting disease >> >transmission. >> > >> >The findings are from a survey recently completed by the newly formed >> >Lysol Hygiene Council, which has mounted an initiative to increase >> >awareness about the paramount role of good hygiene for preventing the >> >spread of infections including colds, influenza, and other illnesses >> >such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Council members >> >include experts in virology, microbiology, and infectious disease. >> > >> >For the survey, more than 8.000 people from eight countries (the >> >U.S., U.K., Italy, Germany, United Arab Emirates, India, Malaysia, >> >and South Africa) were queried about their understanding of how >> >infectious diseases are transmitted. Participants were also asked >> >questions about their daily hygiene practices. >> > >> >Only Germans had worse hand washing habits than Americans. Overall, >> >75 percent acknowledged that they do not wash their hands properly. >> > >> > " Inattention to hygiene is a problem irrespective of socioeconomic >> >class and education, " Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr., Director of Clinical >> >Microbiology and Diagnostic Immunology at New York University Medical >> >Center in New York City, said in an interview. >> > >> > " Even doctors don't have exemplary hygiene practices, " he >> >added. " Consider the rate of nosocomial infections in this country >> >alone. There are 2.5 million nosocomial infections with 100,000 >> >people dying at a cost of five billion dollars. " >> > >> >The survey also found that most people were aware of the need for >> >good hygiene but did not know that they could encounter more bacteria >> >at home than in public places. >> > >> >Hygiene Council Chairman Professor John Oxford, Professor of Virology >> >at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital in London, U.K., >> >said that the implementation of good hygiene practices has been on >> >the wane since the introduction of antibiotics. He called on doctors >> >to " set the example " and routinely emphasize to their patients the >> >importance of good hygiene just as they would stress the importance >> >of a healthy diet. >> > >> >Professor Oxford and Dr. Tierno concurred that clean hands can >> >be " the most powerful weapon on earth for defeating infection. " They >> >recommended the use of alcohol-based disposable hand wipes or hand >> >gels in the event that water is unavailable. >> > >> >My Family and Germs >> > >> >By Jill Stein >> >Jill Stein is a Paris-based freelance medical writer. >> >Jillstein03 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 YUCKY Fraggle! It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or shake your paw... Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > Hospital? > a program in the UK i take it? > > i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough > *shrug* > heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards >earthstrm <earthstorm >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > > Re: Hand washing > >YUCKY Fraggle! > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or >shake your paw... > >Nikki > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: >> >> Hospital? >> a program in the UK i take it? >> >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough >> *shrug* >> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the >road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... >> > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Fraggle They don't have to put their fingers in their mouths to become infected. When people are unwell or their immune systems are lowered by old age or just being born they succumb to germs very easily. While this may not happen much outside it is a really enormous problem in hospitals, and people should wash their hands or use the alcohol gel when entering and leaving the ward so that they are not responsible for the death of some unfortunate person who happens to be ill and have the bad luck to be visited by someone who thinks it doesn't matter. This is why it was so disgraceful that 93% of doctors didn't use the spray befoe checking their patients. It is a return to medieval times, pre-Lister. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, September 01, 2006 1:05 AM Re: Re: Hand washing > not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards > > > > >earthstrm <earthstorm > >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > > > > Re: Hand washing > > > >YUCKY Fraggle! > > > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or > >shake your paw... > > > >Nikki > > > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > >> > >> Hospital? > >> a program in the UK i take it? > >> > >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough > >> *shrug* > >> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the > >road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Fraggle >i don't generally walk around touching old people... You should try it - I'm sure it's not as bad as you make it sound :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Jo > pre-Lister. And we know how dirty he was.... oh, I'm guessing you didn't mean Dave ;-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Peter LOL :-) I certainly didn't mean Dave Lister! I reckon they called that character Lister as he was the exact opposite. BBJo - Peter Kebbell Friday, September 01, 2006 9:59 AM Re: Re: Hand washing Hi Jo > pre-Lister. And we know how dirty he was.... oh, I'm guessing you didn't mean Dave ;-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 LOL - I cannot comment... Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards > > > > >earthstrm <earthstorm > >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > > > > Re: Hand washing > > > >YUCKY Fraggle! > > > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or > >shake your paw... > > > >Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I do actually have one comment :-[ When Fraggle pierced his leg awhile ago it became badly infected! If more people were careful about spreading germs, this might not have happened. Just a thought. Jo - " earthstrm " <earthstorm Friday, September 01, 2006 12:46 PM Re: Hand washing > LOL - I cannot comment... > > Nikki > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > > > not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths > afterwards > > > > > > > > >earthstrm <earthstorm > > >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > > > > > > Re: Hand washing > > > > > >YUCKY Fraggle! > > > > > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched > or > > >shake your paw... > > > > > >Nikki To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 hospitals are prolly the worse place to go if you are sick big piles of disease >jo <jo.heartwork >Sep 1, 2006 12:54 AM > >Re: Re: Hand washing > >Hi Fraggle > >They don't have to put their fingers in their mouths to become infected. >When people are unwell or their immune systems are lowered by old age or >just being born they succumb to germs very easily. While this may not >happen much outside it is a really enormous problem in hospitals, and people >should wash their hands or use the alcohol gel when entering and leaving the >ward so that they are not responsible for the death of some unfortunate >person who happens to be ill and have the bad luck to be visited by someone >who thinks it doesn't matter. This is why it was so disgraceful that 93% of >doctors didn't use the spray befoe checking their patients. It is a return >to medieval times, pre-Lister. > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > >Friday, September 01, 2006 1:05 AM >Re: Re: Hand washing > > >> not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards >> >> >> >> >earthstrm <earthstorm >> >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM >> > >> > Re: Hand washing >> > >> >YUCKY Fraggle! >> > >> >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or >> >shake your paw... >> > >> >Nikki >> > >> > >> > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: >> >> >> >> Hospital? >> >> a program in the UK i take it? >> >> >> >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough >> >> *shrug* >> >> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the >> >road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 it was also from a dirty window sitting outside... don't know how much someone washing their hands would have helped about this one! >jo <jo.heartwork >Sep 1, 2006 8:18 AM > >Re: Re: Hand washing > >I do actually have one comment :-[ When Fraggle pierced his leg awhile ago >it became badly infected! If more people were careful about spreading >germs, this might not have happened. Just a thought. > >Jo > If George Bush said that the Earth was flat, the headline would read, " Views Differ on Shape of the Earth " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 They are but most people don't have a choice. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, September 01, 2006 5:08 PM Re: Re: Hand washing > hospitals are prolly the worse place to go if you are sick > big piles of disease > > > >jo <jo.heartwork > >Sep 1, 2006 12:54 AM > > > >Re: Re: Hand washing > > > >Hi Fraggle > > > >They don't have to put their fingers in their mouths to become infected. > >When people are unwell or their immune systems are lowered by old age or > >just being born they succumb to germs very easily. While this may not > >happen much outside it is a really enormous problem in hospitals, and people > >should wash their hands or use the alcohol gel when entering and leaving the > >ward so that they are not responsible for the death of some unfortunate > >person who happens to be ill and have the bad luck to be visited by someone > >who thinks it doesn't matter. This is why it was so disgraceful that 93% of > >doctors didn't use the spray befoe checking their patients. It is a return > >to medieval times, pre-Lister. > > > >Jo > > > >- > > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > > > >Friday, September 01, 2006 1:05 AM > >Re: Re: Hand washing > > > > > >> not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards > >> > >> > >> > >> >earthstrm <earthstorm > >> >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > >> > > >> > Re: Hand washing > >> > > >> >YUCKY Fraggle! > >> > > >> >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or > >> >shake your paw... > >> > > >> >Nikki > >> > > >> > > >> > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hospital? > >> >> a program in the UK i take it? > >> >> > >> >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough > >> >> *shrug* > >> >> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the > >> >road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much...... > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To send an email to - > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 The microbiologist on the programme was saying that the MRSA germs came about because of a lack of hygiene, and now that it is with us we will never be able to get rid of it totally. These germs are now everywhere, and carried on the skin of a lot of people. If some of the MRSA germs had been on the dirty window, you may have ended up with an MRSA infection, which is pretty devastating. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, September 01, 2006 5:14 PM Re: Re: Hand washing > it was also from a dirty window sitting outside... > don't know how much someone washing their hands would have helped about this one! > > > > >jo <jo.heartwork > >Sep 1, 2006 8:18 AM > > > >Re: Re: Hand washing > > > >I do actually have one comment :-[ When Fraggle pierced his leg awhile ago > >it became badly infected! If more people were careful about spreading > >germs, this might not have happened. Just a thought. > > > >Jo > > > > > If George Bush said that the Earth was flat, the headline would read, " Views Differ on Shape of the Earth " > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Jo Excellent point! BB Nikki , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > I do actually have one comment :-[ When Fraggle pierced his leg awhile ago > it became badly infected! If more people were careful about spreading > germs, this might not have happened. Just a thought. > > Jo > > - > " earthstrm " <earthstorm > > Friday, September 01, 2006 12:46 PM > Re: Hand washing > > > > LOL - I cannot comment... > > > > Nikki > > > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@> wrote: > > > > > > not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths > > afterwards > > > > > > > > > > > > >earthstrm <earthstorm@> > > > >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Hand washing > > > > > > > >YUCKY Fraggle! > > > > > > > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched > > or > > > >shake your paw... > > > > > > > >Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 You know better than that! The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths afterwards:)>earthstrm >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM> > Re: Hand washing>>YUCKY Fraggle!>>It will help others though as they pick up something you touched or>shake your paw...>>Nikki>>> , fraggle wrote:>>>> Hospital?>> a program in the UK i take it?>> >> i'm one of those who prolly doesn't wash enough>> *shrug*>> heck..i eat fruit and stuff directly growing on the side of the>road...washing my hands ain't gonna help me much......>> >>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Top come back Jo, go to the head of the class......... The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I do actually have one comment :-[ When Fraggle pierced his leg awhile agoit became badly infected! If more people were careful about spreadinggerms, this might not have happened. Just a thought.Jo-"earthstrm" Friday, September 01, 2006 12:46 PM Re: Hand washing> LOL - I cannot comment...>> Nikki >>> , fraggle wrote:> >> > not my fault they wanna put their fingers in their mouths> afterwards> > > >> > > > >earthstrm > > >Aug 31, 2006 7:22 PM> > > > > > Re: Hand washing> > >> > >YUCKY Fraggle!> > >> > >It will help others though as they pick up something you touched> or> > >shake your paw...> > >> > >Nikki>>>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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