Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 i knew it! oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the bible tho... 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings' Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006 A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them banned from school libraries. Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville, told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or practitioners of religious witchcraft. Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen. That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said. She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to differentiate between reality and fantasy. The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on classmates. " They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful to some kids, " Mallory said. She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the Bible as student reading. It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the books in August 2005. Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like " Macbeth " and " Cinderella. " As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-) Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx " TFHB " <TFHB >; " vegan chat " Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > i knew it! > oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the bible tho... > > 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings' > Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006 > > A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to > teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them > banned from school libraries. > > > > Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville, > told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British > author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or > practitioners of religious witchcraft. > > Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory > said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help > foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen. > > That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said. > > > She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to > differentiate between reality and fantasy. > > The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on > classmates. > > " They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful > to some kids, " Mallory said. > > She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the > Bible as student reading. > > It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction > series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the > books in August 2005. > > Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of > Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in > May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference > to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like " Macbeth " and > " Cinderella. " > > > As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. > William O. Douglas > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men... like they'd ever read harry potter..... now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause... >jo <jo.heartwork >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM > >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > >We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-) > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > " TFHB " <TFHB >; " vegan chat " >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM > i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > > >> i knew it! >> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the >bible tho... >> >> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings' >> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006 >> >> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to >> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them >> banned from school libraries. >> >> >> >> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville, >> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British >> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or >> practitioners of religious witchcraft. >> >> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory >> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help >> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen. >> >> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said. >> >> >> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to >> differentiate between reality and fantasy. >> >> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on >> classmates. >> >> " They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful >> to some kids, " Mallory said. >> >> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the >> Bible as student reading. >> >> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction >> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the >> books in August 2005. >> >> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of >> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in >> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference >> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like " Macbeth " and >> " Cinderella. " >> >> >> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both >instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, >and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, >however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. >> William O. Douglas >> >> >> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM>To: >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Erm .... Colin has read them all. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:51 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men... > like they'd ever read harry potter..... > > now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause... > > > >jo <jo.heartwork > >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM > > > >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > > > >We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-) > > > >Jo > > > >- > > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > > " TFHB " <TFHB >; " vegan chat " > >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM > > i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > > > > > >> i knew it! > >> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the > >bible tho... > >> > >> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings' > >> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006 > >> > >> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to > >> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them > >> banned from school libraries. > >> > >> > >> > >> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville, > >> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British > >> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or > >> practitioners of religious witchcraft. > >> > >> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory > >> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help > >> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen. > >> > >> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said. > >> > >> > >> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to > >> differentiate between reality and fantasy. > >> > >> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on > >> classmates. > >> > >> " They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful > >> to some kids, " Mallory said. > >> > >> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the > >> Bible as student reading. > >> > >> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction > >> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the > >> books in August 2005. > >> > >> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of > >> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in > >> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference > >> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like " Macbeth " and > >> " Cinderella. " > >> > >> > >> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both > >instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, > >and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, > >however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. > >> William O. Douglas > >> > >> > >> To send an email to - > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 i expect to read about him in the news then sadly.... ok..i was speaking in general terms... the market is aimed at young adults and preteens..... >jo <jo.heartwork >Oct 5, 2006 2:38 PM > >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > >Erm .... Colin has read them all. > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > >Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:51 PM >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well > > >> and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older >men... >> like they'd ever read harry potter..... >> >> now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well >label that as a cause... >> >> >> >jo <jo.heartwork >> >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM >> > >> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well >> > >> >We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-) >> > >> >Jo >> > >> >- >> > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx >> > " TFHB " <TFHB >; " vegan chat " > >> >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM >> > i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well >> > >> > >> >> i knew it! >> >> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the >> >bible tho... >> >> >> >> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings' >> >> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006 >> >> >> >> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to >> >> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them >> >> banned from school libraries. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville, >> >> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British >> >> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or >> >> practitioners of religious witchcraft. >> >> >> >> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory >> >> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help >> >> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen. >> >> >> >> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said. >> >> >> >> >> >> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to >> >> differentiate between reality and fantasy. >> >> >> >> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on >> >> classmates. >> >> >> >> " They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful >> >> to some kids, " Mallory said. >> >> >> >> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the >> >> Bible as student reading. >> >> >> >> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction >> >> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the >> >> books in August 2005. >> >> >> >> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of >> >> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in >> >> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference >> >> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like " Macbeth " and >> >> " Cinderella. " >> >> >> >> >> >> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both >> >instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly >unchanged, >> >and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, >> >however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. >> >> William O. Douglas >> >> >> >> >> >> To send an email to - >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hi Fraggle It is but, in this country at least, is ready by most adults. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > i expect to read about him in the news then sadly.... > > ok..i was speaking in general terms... > the market is aimed at young adults and preteens..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 So has my oldest (12), thats it I`m locking away all my small arms, locking the gun cabinet, the powder room is having a new lock, and the armoury is out of bounds................. The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Erm .... Colin has read them all.Jo-"fraggle" Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:51 PMRe: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well> and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by oldermen...> like they'd ever read harry potter.....>> now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as welllabel that as a cause...>> -----Original Message-----> >jo > >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> > > >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well> >> >We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)> >> >Jo> >> >-> >"fraggle" > >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat"> >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> > i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well> >> >> >> i knew it!> >> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the> >bible tho...> >>> >> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'> >> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006> >>> >> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to> >> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them> >> banned from school libraries.> >>> >>> >>> >> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,> >> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British> >> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or> >> practitioners of religious witchcraft.> >>> >> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory> >> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help> >> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.> >>> >> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.> >>> >>> >> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to> >> differentiate between reality and fantasy.> >>> >> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on> >> classmates.> >>> >> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful> >> to some kids," Mallory said.> >>> >> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the> >> Bible as student reading.> >>> >> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction> >> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the> >> books in August 2005.> >>> >> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of> >> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in> >> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference> >> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and> >> "Cinderella."> >>> >>> >> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both> >instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seeminglyunchanged,> >and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,> >however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.> >> William O. Douglas> >>> >>> >> To send an email to - > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 stands for the biblical "david"..davidic... lets see..its been awhile since i read up on em..but AFAIR... Branch Davidians were a splinter group off a splinter group of 7th day adventists (as a matter of fact, techically, Koresh and his group were actually a splinter group off Branch Davidians!) they took the more apolcalyptic stuff from the Adventists, and not much else peter VV Oct 6, 2006 2:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hi Peter LOL - wasn't it Davidians, as in followers of David Koresh? BB Peter - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 or..maybe a race from the planet davidia?.possibly from Blakes 7? The Valley Vegan...............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter LOL - wasn't it Davidians, as in followers of David Koresh? BB Peter - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Links>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Did you never hear the Machine Head song? Jo - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 I thought it was cos his name was David Koresh! Jo - fraggle Friday, October 06, 2006 7:42 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well stands for the biblical "david"..davidic... lets see..its been awhile since i read up on em..but AFAIR... Branch Davidians were a splinter group off a splinter group of 7th day adventists (as a matter of fact, techically, Koresh and his group were actually a splinter group off Branch Davidians!) they took the more apolcalyptic stuff from the Adventists, and not much else peter VV Oct 6, 2006 2:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 His name was David Koresh, and his sect was Davidians - did you think Peter was joking? Jo - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 8:26 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well or..maybe a race from the planet davidia?.possibly from Blakes 7? The Valley Vegan...............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter LOL - wasn't it Davidians, as in followers of David Koresh? BB Peter - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Maybe, not one of my fave bands either............ The Valley Vegan...............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Did you never hear the Machine Head song? Jo - peter VV Friday, October 06, 2006 7:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Links>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 he changed his name to David Koresh.... jo Oct 8, 2006 6:17 AM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well I thought it was cos his name was David Koresh! Jo - fraggle Friday, October 06, 2006 7:42 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well stands for the biblical "david"..davidic... lets see..its been awhile since i read up on em..but AFAIR... Branch Davidians were a splinter group off a splinter group of 7th day adventists (as a matter of fact, techically, Koresh and his group were actually a splinter group off Branch Davidians!) they took the more apolcalyptic stuff from the Adventists, and not much else peter VV Oct 6, 2006 2:19 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well what the hell was a dividian? sounds like some kind of amoeba! I`m just glad we dont have the gun culture over here ( yet ) The Valley Vegan.............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Waco was different a long time ago... that sect were Branch Dividians. as for the shooter in penn, i doubt he was even amish....just happened to live in a amish community as a matter of fact, he couldn't have been amish they are generally peaceful, and he drove a truck and owned guns.... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:24 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Oh, wasnt there some sect or some such involved at Waco? or are the only tings in common that the perps had toys in the attic? The Valley Vegan.........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i assume you mean the guy who shot those 10 girls in pennsylviania, killing 5? only religious insofar as it took place in amish country, at an amish school. i don't think he did because he himself had issues with the amish. supposedly it had to do(at least according to his suicide notes) with repressed sexual issues from when he was a child. he molested some relatives when he was a kid er something like that... peter VV Oct 5, 2006 4:00 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Didnt the last one have some sort of religious link? maybe more than one of the shootings? good old fashioned religion eh? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: and, 2 out of three recent skool shootings over here, were done by older men...like they'd ever read harry potter.....now...my side...all of em took place in rural suburbia...might as well label that as a cause...>jo >Oct 5, 2006 2:59 PM> >Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>We all know how bad witches are Fraggle :-)>>Jo>>->"fraggle" >"TFHB" ; "vegan chat" >Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:59 PM> i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well>>>> i knew it!>> oh, guess you have to ignore all the murder, genocide, rape, etc in the>bible tho...>>>> 'Ban Harry Potter or face more school shootings'>> Last updated at 13:20pm on 4th October 2006>>>> A woman who maintains that the Harry Potter books are an attempt to>> teach children witchcraft is pushing for the second time to have them>> banned from school libraries.>>>>>>>> Laura Mallory, a mother of four from the Atlanta suburb of Loganville,>> told a Georgia Board of Education officer that the books by British>> author J.K. Rowling, sought to indoctrinate children as Wiccans, or>> practitioners of religious witchcraft.>>>> Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory>> said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help>> foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.>>>> That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.>>>>>> She added that the books were harmful to children who are unable to>> differentiate between reality and fantasy.>>>> The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on>> classmates.>>>> "They're not educationally suitable and have been shown to be harmful>> to some kids," Mallory said.>>>> She argued that teachers do not assign other religious books like the>> Bible as student reading.>>>> It was Mallory's second public campaign against the popular fiction>> series, after trying to get her son's elementary school to ban the>> books in August 2005.>>>> Victoria Sweeny, an attorney representing the Gwinnett County Board of>> Education in Atlanta's eastern suburbs, which had ruled against her in>> May, said that if schools were to remove all books containing reference>> to witches, they would have to ban mainstays like "Macbeth" and>> "Cinderella.">>>>>> As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both>instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged,>and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air,>however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.>> William O. Douglas>>>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Thanks Fraggle - I wonder what he changed it from. Jo - fraggle Monday, October 09, 2006 5:39 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well he changed his name to David Koresh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 had to look it up Vernon Wayne Howell jo Oct 9, 2006 10:18 AM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well Thanks Fraggle - I wonder what he changed it from. Jo - fraggle Monday, October 09, 2006 5:39 PM Re: i knew it! i blame tinky winky as well he changed his name to David Koresh.... As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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