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Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan...........Peter H

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Hi Peter

 

Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with???

 

 

BB

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Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

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Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine! I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ). We spent a lot of today in work identifying streets in Cardiff where we work from the programme! Hopefully it may do something for the tourist industry too! I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also. The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference

is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with??? BB Peter On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H

 

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Hi Peter

 

I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system.

 

Jo

 

 

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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LOL Peter. With an alien disguised as a woman and that lives off orgasmic energy, well, what can I say. Adolescent. Typical RTD though. In one way I am disappointed because I hoped (possible beyond hope) that he would not let me down.

 

Jo

 

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:36 PM

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Hi Peter

 

Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with???

 

BB

Peter

On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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"someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean? You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it? The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi Peter I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system. Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online

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Torchwood scores record audience Torchwood follows secret agents battling human and alien enemiesThe opening episodes of Doctor Who spin-off Torchwood drew the largest digital channel audience for a non-sport programme, says the BBC. The first two instalments of the series, starring John Barrowman as Captain Jack Harkness, also attracted BBC Three's largest ever audience. The 2100 BST episode had 2.4

million viewers and a 12.7% audience share, the 2145 BST one had 2.3 million (13.8%). Two football matches in 2004 and 2005 earned larger digital TV audiences. BBC Three controller Julian Bellamy said the audience figures for the new sci-fi series were an "incredible achievement". "I'm delighted that last night's Torchwood was such a big hit," he said. The series follows a team of investigators solving alien and human crime and is aimed at an adult audience. It has been written by Russell T Davies, who scripted the comeback series of Doctor Who as well as earlier hits including Queer as Folk and Bob & Rose. Torchwood is set in Cardiff and also stars Welsh actress Eve Myles as Gwen Cooper. The first two episodes will be repeated on BBC Two on Wednesday. Peter H

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Hi Peter

 

The latest email to the Dr Who group states the opinion that the 'sex, swearing and blood were gratuitous and did not add to the programme.' Horses for courses!

 

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:45 PM

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Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine!

I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ).

We spent a lot of today in work identifying streets in Cardiff where we work from the programme!

Hopefully it may do something for the tourist industry too!

I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also.

 

The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with???

 

BB

Peter

On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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Presumably that person thinks that Cardiff doesn't have an underground network.

 

A lot of knob jokes! Not showing my age because I have never liked programmes just because they contain knob jokes or sex scenes. A snob - definitely. I don't see any point in sitting watching something that grates on my nerves. If it does that for the first ten minutes I am not going to suddenly have a change of heart after another ten minutes. I had not prejudged the programme, because I hoped I would enjoy it and was quite willing to like it. In my opinion it didn't seem to be well directed. John Barrowman was better than he had been in Doctor Who. The story line was just old hat and hackneyed. There was no 'finesse'.

 

Jo

 

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peter VV

Monday, October 23, 2006 8:30 PM

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"someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean?

You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it?

 

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system.

 

Jo

 

 

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peter VV

Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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if you two agreed, i think the UK would just implode

so, keep up the good work!

:)

peter VV Oct 23, 2006 10:45 AM Re: Torchwood has landed!

Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine!

I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ).

We spent a lot of today in work identifying streets in Cardiff where we work from the programme!

Hopefully it may do something for the tourist industry too!

I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also.

 

The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with???

 

BB

Peter

On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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Hi Peter

 

Ummm.... just about 3 days ago, you were having a go at me for going in " like a bull in a china shop " - let's try to remember to be polite please - calling people snobs, or dismissing their opinions due to their age is not very polite.

 

 

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On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

 

" someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system? " what does that mean?

You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it?

 

 

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Hi Peter

 

I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system.

 

 

Jo

 

 

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peter VV

 

 

Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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Hi Peter

 

>Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine!

 

Well, there's a surprise :-)

 

>I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on

> ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ).

 

I liked the pace of the first episode - it gave it a nice " mysterious " feel for me, and it certainly moved faster than the average Spielberg film!!!

 

The second episode I thought was just a very, very poor plot. It just seemed to me to be an excuse for lots of sex. Fine, if that's what people want from a TV programme, but it's not what I like. I'd much rather have a good plot and interesting characters.

 

 

>I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also.

 

True - and, generally, the ones which have been written by Russell Davies! As much as I appreciate his efforts to bring Dr Who back, and to give it good production values, I do just wish he would stop writing for it and get more people like Mark Gatiss, Tom MacRae, Matt Jones and Robert Shearman to write the episodes!

 

 

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I agree he should stick to production/direction or whatever the hell he does rather than write so much. The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter >Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine! Well, there's a surprise :-) >I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on > ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ). I liked the pace of the first episode - it gave it a nice "mysterious" feel for me, and it certainly moved faster than the average Spielberg film!!! The second episode I thought was

just a very, very poor plot. It just seemed to me to be an excuse for lots of sex. Fine, if that's what people want from a TV programme, but it's not what I like. I'd much rather have a good plot and interesting characters. >I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also. True - and, generally, the ones which have been written by Russell Davies! As much as I appreciate his efforts to bring Dr Who back, and to give it good production values, I do just wish he would stop writing for it and get more people like Mark Gatiss, Tom MacRae, Matt Jones and Robert Shearman to write the episodes! BB Peter Peter H

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I wasnt calling anyone anything - hence the use of the question mark....and I continued suggesting Jo should have watched it all before dismissing it / forming an opinion. Maybe something is rubbing off on me? anyhoo, no offence meant, I`m sure Jo didnt take any? time to pucker up and make up? c,mon dont be shy! The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter Ummm.... just about 3 days ago, you were having a go at me for going in "like a bull in a china shop" - let's try to remember to be polite please - calling people snobs, or dismissing their opinions due to their age is not very polite. BB Peter On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: "someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean? You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it? The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi Peter I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system. Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Peter H

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I`m sure we can accomodate! The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: if you two agreed, i think the UK would just implode so, keep up the good work! :) peter VV Oct 23, 2006 10:45 AM Re: Torchwood has landed! Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine! I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too

gratuitous ). We spent a lot of today in work identifying streets in Cardiff where we work from the programme! Hopefully it may do something for the tourist industry too! I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also. The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the 2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with??? BB Peter On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H All New Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Peter H

 

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I agree about the direction, one minute it was all swooping camera work American style of tall buildings and wide open bays, next minute all indoors. Strangley though I didnt think the same as you of captain Jack, I thought his charector as a lead quite weak? There were a few references to Dr Who that fans may have spotted. You may want to have a go at the first episode tomorrow its repeated on BBC2. As for the refernce about Cardiff not having an underground movement, there are probably a lot of things that individual does not know about Cardiff.............. The Valley Vegan............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Presumably that person thinks that Cardiff doesn't have an

underground network. A lot of knob jokes! Not showing my age because I have never liked programmes just because they contain knob jokes or sex scenes. A snob - definitely. I don't see any point in sitting watching something that grates on my nerves. If it does that for the first ten minutes I am not going to suddenly have a change of heart after another ten minutes. I had not prejudged the programme, because I hoped I would enjoy it and was quite willing to like it. In my opinion it didn't seem to be well directed. John Barrowman was better than he had been in Doctor Who. The story line was just old hat and hackneyed. There was no 'finesse'. Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 8:30 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! "someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean? You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me

before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it? The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi Peter I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle.

Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system. Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! Just to let you guys know, I watched the

first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Peter H

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Possibly swayed by years of DR Who being before the watershed, and Torchwood being aimed at an adult, post watershed audience? I dont recall there being much blood actualy, I was expecting more, same with swearing, and as for the sex, well that was the whole story in the second episode, after all it was about an alien that fed off orgasmic energy?. There was no sex at all in the first episode. I liked the charectors interaction and humour, it was much in the same vien as Dr Who. We shall have to see if the ratings fall after these two ( which they inevitably will once curiosity has been satisfied ), but I for one will watch every episode. The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi Peter The latest email to the Dr Who group states the opinion that the 'sex, swearing and blood were gratuitous and did not add to the programme.' Horses for courses! Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 6:45

PM Re: Torchwood has landed! Well, well, again the exact opposite opinion of mine! I thought the pace of the first episode totally pedestrian, the second had a lot more going on ( admittedly of an adult nature - but nothing I thought too gratuitous ). We spent a lot of today in work identifying streets in Cardiff where we work from the programme! Hopefully it may do something for the tourist industry too! I also thought a few of the Dr Who story lines were a bit weak also. The Valley Vegan..............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter Have to say I enjoyed the first episode - but it just seemed to me that the

2nd episode was the sort of plot that would have been better placed in a cheap porn movie (not sure what the difference is between a cheap porn movie and an expensive one, mind you!)... is that *really* the best storyline Russell Davies could come up with??? BB Peter On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H All New Mail – Tired of

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I was a little upset about the age remark, as I don't think age has anything to do with an opinion on something that might normally be within your range of liking.

 

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:52 PM

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I wasnt calling anyone anything - hence the use of the question mark....and I continued suggesting Jo should have watched it all before dismissing it / forming an opinion.

Maybe something is rubbing off on me?

anyhoo, no offence meant, I`m sure Jo didnt take any?

time to pucker up and make up?

c,mon dont be shy!

 

The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

Ummm.... just about 3 days ago, you were having a go at me for going in "like a bull in a china shop" - let's try to remember to be polite please - calling people snobs, or dismissing their opinions due to their age is not very polite.

 

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Peter

On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

"someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean?

You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it?

 

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system.

 

Jo

 

 

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

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Sorry Jo, I guess sometimes I just dont think, and I dont usually get upset by anything much, and tend to think other people are the same. I didnt mean your an old bag or I would have just come out and said it, as I am usiually more direct than that ( your not much older than me are you? ). Are you sensative about your age?, I am always saying that I`m an old bugger. Dont take any of the crap that I say to heart, please I`m just a buffoon ( 1 st class with honours ). The Valley Vegan............tail between his legs....... jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I was a little upset about the age remark, as I

don't think age has anything to do with an opinion on something that might normally be within your range of liking. Jo - peter VV Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:52 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! I wasnt calling anyone anything - hence

the use of the question mark....and I continued suggesting Jo should have watched it all before dismissing it / forming an opinion. Maybe something is rubbing off on me? anyhoo, no offence meant, I`m sure Jo didnt take any? time to pucker up and make up? c,mon dont be shy! The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter Ummm.... just about 3 days ago, you were having a go at me for going in "like a bull in a china shop" - let's try to remember to be polite please - calling people snobs, or dismissing their opinions due to their age is not very polite. BB Peter On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: "someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean? You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it? The Valley

Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi Peter I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system. Jo - peter VV Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM Re: Torchwood has landed! Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again! There will be obvious comments comparing it

to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k. The Valley Vegan........... Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H Try the all-new Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H

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I knew you didn't mean any harm. I am not sensitive about my age at all. You can raise your tail again now :-)Jo

 

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peter VV

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:52 PM

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Sorry Jo, I guess sometimes I just dont think, and I dont usually get upset by anything much, and tend to think other people are the same.

I didnt mean your an old bag or I would have just come out and said it, as I am usiually more direct than that ( your not much older than me are you? ). Are you sensative about your age?, I am always saying that I`m an old bugger.

Dont take any of the crap that I say to heart, please I`m just a buffoon ( 1 st class with honours ).

 

 

The Valley Vegan............tail between his legs.......

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

I was a little upset about the age remark, as I don't think age has anything to do with an opinion on something that might normally be within your range of liking.

 

Jo

 

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peter VV

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:52 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

I wasnt calling anyone anything - hence the use of the question mark....and I continued suggesting Jo should have watched it all before dismissing it / forming an opinion.

Maybe something is rubbing off on me?

anyhoo, no offence meant, I`m sure Jo didnt take any?

time to pucker up and make up?

c,mon dont be shy!

 

The Valley Vegan.............Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

Ummm.... just about 3 days ago, you were having a go at me for going in "like a bull in a china shop" - let's try to remember to be polite please - calling people snobs, or dismissing their opinions due to their age is not very polite.

 

BB

Peter

On 23/10/06, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

 

"someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system?" what does that mean?

You didnt miss much with the first episode, mostly introducing the charectors, and as a result, you probably missed something in the second episode, there was a lot of humour, albiet a lot of knob jokes! never bothered me before, as for being a little adolescent? showing your age or being a bit of a snob? you should have watched it all before judging it, it might have grown on you, although I seem to remember in previous posts you saying you probably wouldnt be watching it as it wasnt your cup of tea, so maybe you made up your own mind before you even saw it?

 

The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

I missed the first episode, and turned over after about ten minutes of the second. I thought it a little adolescent. On the Dr Who group that I moderate opinion is split down the middle. Incidentally, someone did have a laugh at the thought of their being a Cardiff underground system.

 

Jo

 

 

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peter VV

Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 PM

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

Just to let you guys know, I watched the first two episodes last night , and I enjoyed it, and will be a fan I think if it keeps up the same quality. Russel T D avies came up trumps again!

There will be obvious comments comparing it to a cheap version of Men in Black, and the first episode was a bit slow, but for me it was o.k.

 

The Valley Vegan...........

Peter H

 

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raise his tail?

doesn't that usually precede urination

jo Oct 24, 2006 2:02 PM Re: Torchwood has landed!

I knew you didn't mean any harm. I am not sensitive about my age at all. You can raise your tail again now :-)Jo

 

As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas

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Hi Fraggle

 

I'm sure it won't be long before VV is taking the **** again :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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raise his tail?

doesn't that usually precede urination

 

 

 

 

jo

Oct 24, 2006 2:02 PM

 

Re: Torchwood has landed!

 

 

I knew you didn't mean any harm. I am not sensitive about my age at

all. You can raise your tail again now :-)

 

Jo

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Hi Peter

 

>Possibly swayed by years of DR Who being before the watershed, and Torchwood being

> aimed at an adult, post watershed audience?

 

I think that is a bit of an issue. It seems to me that if you're going to do a spin-off from a series, it should really be aimed at a similar sort of audience. Torchwood could quite easily have nothing whatsoever to do with Dr Who - if it had just been its own thing, they still could have had all the elements it has, but wouldn't have lured Dr Who fans into thinking " great, we have a spin off " . Why not just make the same programme without connecting it to a childrens / family programme?

 

 

> I dont recall there being much blood actualy

 

There was quite a bit when that bloke got " eaten " in the hospital corridor.

 

> There was no sex at all in the first episode.

 

Maybe not direct visual sex, but it was implied quite a bit.

 

> I liked the charectors interaction and humour, it was much in the same vien as Dr Who.

 

I really didn't think it was, but I guess we'll have to disagree :-)

 

BB

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Hi Peter

 

>As for the refernce about Cardiff not having an underground movement, there are probably a

> lot of things that individual does not know about Cardiff.............

 

I think we were talking about an underground train system.... :-)

 

BB

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don't moles have underground movements?

Peter Kebbell Oct 25, 2006 10:28 AM Re: Torchwood has landed!

Hi Peter

 

>As for the refernce about Cardiff not having an underground movement, there are probably a

> lot of things that individual does not know about Cardiff.............

 

I think we were talking about an underground train system.... :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

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