Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 How the hell did this happen? Last Updated: Friday, 10 November 2006, 18:01 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version BNP leader cleared of race hate The pair were greeted outside court with chants of "freedom"BNP leader Nick Griffin and party activist Mark Collett have been cleared of inciting racial hatred after a retrial at Leeds Crown Court. Mr Griffin, 46, from Powys, Wales, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in a speech in Keighley. Mr Collett, 26, of Leicestershire, was cleared of four similar charges. Chancellor Gordon Brown has told the BBC race laws may have to be revised in light of the acquittal. Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC showed a secretly-filmed documentary The Secret Agent in 2004. The party leader smiled and nodded as the foreman of the jury read out the unanimous not guilty verdict. They can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom BNP leader Nick Griffin Profile: Nick Griffin Outside court, Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were greeted with chants of "freedom" by about 200 supporters, some of whom waved the union flag. A small number of anti-fascist protesters shouted as Mr Griffin addressed the crowd on a megaphone. He said: "What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government toadies at the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom." Mr Griffin said his co-defendant had worked "incredibly hard" for the BNP but had been living under the threat of a prison sentence since the age of 23. BBC 'cockroaches' Mr Collett, the party's head of the publicity, said: "This is the BNP - two, BBC - nil." He branded the BBC "cockroaches" and added: "The BBC have abused their position. Mr Griffin had described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faithThey are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth." In a statement, the BBC said its job was to bring matters of public interest to general attention. "In this case the matters raised in The Secret Agent were seen by a large section of the public and caused widespread concern," the statement read. "The BBC has an important role in doing this. "However, the question of whether criminal offences have been committed is of course a matter for the police, prosecuting authorities and the courts and not for the BBC." 'Divide society' Speaking to the BBC after the acquittal, Chancellor Gordon Brown said race laws may have to be tightened. He said: "I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we've got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. "And if that means we've got to look at the laws again I think we will have to do so". The Crown Prosecution Service said it was satisfied there had been sufficient evidence for a "realistic prospect of conviction" and it had been in the public interest to proceed. During the trial, the jury heard extracts from a speech Mr Griffin made in the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley, on 19 January 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole". At the same event, Mr Collett addressed the audience by saying: "Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." In his closing argument, Nick Griffin's barrister said his client's words were part of a "campaign speech of an official and legitimate party". Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Apparently it was 'religious' hatred not 'race' hatred. At the time the offense took place it was not illegal. Jo - peter VV Friday, November 10, 2006 10:42 PM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate How the hell did this happen? Last Updated: Friday, 10 November 2006, 18:01 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version BNP leader cleared of race hate The pair were greeted outside court with chants of "freedom"BNP leader Nick Griffin and party activist Mark Collett have been cleared of inciting racial hatred after a retrial at Leeds Crown Court. Mr Griffin, 46, from Powys, Wales, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in a speech in Keighley. Mr Collett, 26, of Leicestershire, was cleared of four similar charges. Chancellor Gordon Brown has told the BBC race laws may have to be revised in light of the acquittal. Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC showed a secretly-filmed documentary The Secret Agent in 2004. The party leader smiled and nodded as the foreman of the jury read out the unanimous not guilty verdict. They can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom BNP leader Nick Griffin Profile: Nick Griffin Outside court, Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were greeted with chants of "freedom" by about 200 supporters, some of whom waved the union flag. A small number of anti-fascist protesters shouted as Mr Griffin addressed the crowd on a megaphone. He said: "What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government toadies at the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom." Mr Griffin said his co-defendant had worked "incredibly hard" for the BNP but had been living under the threat of a prison sentence since the age of 23. BBC 'cockroaches' Mr Collett, the party's head of the publicity, said: "This is the BNP - two, BBC - nil." He branded the BBC "cockroaches" and added: "The BBC have abused their position. Mr Griffin had described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" "They are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth." In a statement, the BBC said its job was to bring matters of public interest to general attention. "In this case the matters raised in The Secret Agent were seen by a large section of the public and caused widespread concern," the statement read. "The BBC has an important role in doing this. "However, the question of whether criminal offences have been committed is of course a matter for the police, prosecuting authorities and the courts and not for the BBC." 'Divide society' Speaking to the BBC after the acquittal, Chancellor Gordon Brown said race laws may have to be tightened. He said: "I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we've got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. "And if that means we've got to look at the laws again I think we will have to do so". The Crown Prosecution Service said it was satisfied there had been sufficient evidence for a "realistic prospect of conviction" and it had been in the public interest to proceed. During the trial, the jury heard extracts from a speech Mr Griffin made in the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley, on 19 January 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole". At the same event, Mr Collett addressed the audience by saying: "Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." In his closing argument, Nick Griffin's barrister said his client's words were part of a "campaign speech of an official and legitimate party". Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 You know these guys are not just racist bigots, their views on gays are very similar, and I just bet any money that there aint too many women at their rallys? The Valley Vegan..................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Apparently it was 'religious' hatred not 'race' hatred. At the time the offense took place it was not illegal. Jo - peter VV Friday, November 10, 2006 10:42 PM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate How the hell did this happen? Last Updated: Friday, 10 November 2006, 18:01 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version BNP leader cleared of race hate The pair were greeted outside court with chants of "freedom"BNP leader Nick Griffin and party activist Mark Collett have been cleared of inciting racial hatred after a retrial at Leeds Crown Court. Mr Griffin, 46, from Powys, Wales, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in a speech in Keighley. Mr Collett, 26, of Leicestershire, was cleared of four similar charges. Chancellor Gordon Brown has told the BBC race laws may have to be revised in light of the acquittal. Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC showed a secretly-filmed documentary The Secret Agent in 2004. The party leader smiled and nodded as the foreman of the jury read out the unanimous not guilty verdict. They can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom BNP leader Nick Griffin Profile: Nick Griffin Outside court, Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were greeted with chants of "freedom" by about 200 supporters, some of whom waved the union flag. A small number of anti-fascist protesters shouted as Mr Griffin addressed the crowd on a megaphone. He said: "What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government toadies at the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom." Mr Griffin said his co-defendant had worked "incredibly hard" for the BNP but had been living under the threat of a prison sentence since the age of 23. BBC 'cockroaches' Mr Collett, the party's head of the publicity, said: "This is the BNP - two, BBC - nil." He branded the BBC "cockroaches" and added: "The BBC have abused their position. Mr Griffin had described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faithThey are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth." In a statement, the BBC said its job was to bring matters of public interest to general attention. "In this case the matters raised in The Secret Agent were seen by a large section of the public and caused widespread concern," the statement read. "The BBC has an important role in doing this. "However, the question of whether criminal offences have been committed is of course a matter for the police, prosecuting authorities and the courts and not for the BBC." 'Divide society' Speaking to the BBC after the acquittal, Chancellor Gordon Brown said race laws may have to be tightened. He said: "I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we've got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. "And if that means we've got to look at the laws again I think we will have to do so". The Crown Prosecution Service said it was satisfied there had been sufficient evidence for a "realistic prospect of conviction" and it had been in the public interest to proceed. During the trial, the jury heard extracts from a speech Mr Griffin made in the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley, on 19 January 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole". At the same event, Mr Collett addressed the audience by saying: "Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." In his closing argument, Nick Griffin's barrister said his client's words were part of a "campaign speech of an official and legitimate party". Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I do agree with you Peter. I think the reason they got off though was because of the technicality mentioned below. I saw thew programme that started off the whole court case. I don't know how the BNP got away with it. Jo - peter VV Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:45 PM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate You know these guys are not just racist bigots, their views on gays are very similar, and I just bet any money that there aint too many women at their rallys? The Valley Vegan..................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Apparently it was 'religious' hatred not 'race' hatred. At the time the offense took place it was not illegal. Jo - peter VV Friday, November 10, 2006 10:42 PM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate How the hell did this happen? Last Updated: Friday, 10 November 2006, 18:01 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version BNP leader cleared of race hate The pair were greeted outside court with chants of "freedom"BNP leader Nick Griffin and party activist Mark Collett have been cleared of inciting racial hatred after a retrial at Leeds Crown Court. Mr Griffin, 46, from Powys, Wales, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in a speech in Keighley. Mr Collett, 26, of Leicestershire, was cleared of four similar charges. Chancellor Gordon Brown has told the BBC race laws may have to be revised in light of the acquittal. Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC showed a secretly-filmed documentary The Secret Agent in 2004. The party leader smiled and nodded as the foreman of the jury read out the unanimous not guilty verdict. They can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom BNP leader Nick Griffin Profile: Nick Griffin Outside court, Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were greeted with chants of "freedom" by about 200 supporters, some of whom waved the union flag. A small number of anti-fascist protesters shouted as Mr Griffin addressed the crowd on a megaphone. He said: "What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government toadies at the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom." Mr Griffin said his co-defendant had worked "incredibly hard" for the BNP but had been living under the threat of a prison sentence since the age of 23. BBC 'cockroaches' Mr Collett, the party's head of the publicity, said: "This is the BNP - two, BBC - nil." He branded the BBC "cockroaches" and added: "The BBC have abused their position. Mr Griffin had described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" "They are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth." In a statement, the BBC said its job was to bring matters of public interest to general attention. "In this case the matters raised in The Secret Agent were seen by a large section of the public and caused widespread concern," the statement read. "The BBC has an important role in doing this. "However, the question of whether criminal offences have been committed is of course a matter for the police, prosecuting authorities and the courts and not for the BBC." 'Divide society' Speaking to the BBC after the acquittal, Chancellor Gordon Brown said race laws may have to be tightened. He said: "I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we've got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. "And if that means we've got to look at the laws again I think we will have to do so". The Crown Prosecution Service said it was satisfied there had been sufficient evidence for a "realistic prospect of conviction" and it had been in the public interest to proceed. During the trial, the jury heard extracts from a speech Mr Griffin made in the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley, on 19 January 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole". At the same event, Mr Collett addressed the audience by saying: "Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." In his closing argument, Nick Griffin's barrister said his client's words were part of a "campaign speech of an official and legitimate party". Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 in general, hate groups like this loathe and rail against anyone not like them.... actually..they're prolly a few women at such events... hate doesn't seem to be defined by gender... seen enough nazi/kkk rally's with happy women marching proudly with the other idiots..seig heiling away with the rest.... peter VV Nov 11, 2006 11:45 AM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate You know these guys are not just racist bigots, their views on gays are very similar, and I just bet any money that there aint too many women at their rallys? The Valley Vegan..................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Apparently it was 'religious' hatred not 'race' hatred. At the time the offense took place it was not illegal. Jo - peter VV Friday, November 10, 2006 10:42 PM Re: BNP leader cleared of race hate How the hell did this happen? Last Updated: Friday, 10 November 2006, 18:01 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version BNP leader cleared of race hate The pair were greeted outside court with chants of "freedom"BNP leader Nick Griffin and party activist Mark Collett have been cleared of inciting racial hatred after a retrial at Leeds Crown Court. Mr Griffin, 46, from Powys, Wales, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred in a speech in Keighley. Mr Collett, 26, of Leicestershire, was cleared of four similar charges. Chancellor Gordon Brown has told the BBC race laws may have to be revised in light of the acquittal. Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC showed a secretly-filmed documentary The Secret Agent in 2004. The party leader smiled and nodded as the foreman of the jury read out the unanimous not guilty verdict. They can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom BNP leader Nick Griffin Profile: Nick Griffin Outside court, Mr Griffin and Mr Collett were greeted with chants of "freedom" by about 200 supporters, some of whom waved the union flag. A small number of anti-fascist protesters shouted as Mr Griffin addressed the crowd on a megaphone. He said: "What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government toadies at the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom." Mr Griffin said his co-defendant had worked "incredibly hard" for the BNP but had been living under the threat of a prison sentence since the age of 23. BBC 'cockroaches' Mr Collett, the party's head of the publicity, said: "This is the BNP - two, BBC - nil." He branded the BBC "cockroaches" and added: "The BBC have abused their position. Mr Griffin had described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" "They are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth." In a statement, the BBC said its job was to bring matters of public interest to general attention. "In this case the matters raised in The Secret Agent were seen by a large section of the public and caused widespread concern," the statement read. "The BBC has an important role in doing this. "However, the question of whether criminal offences have been committed is of course a matter for the police, prosecuting authorities and the courts and not for the BBC." 'Divide society' Speaking to the BBC after the acquittal, Chancellor Gordon Brown said race laws may have to be tightened. He said: "I think any preaching of religious or racial hatred will offend mainstream opinion in this country and I think we've got to do whatever we can to root it out from whatever quarter it comes. "And if that means we've got to look at the laws again I think we will have to do so". The Crown Prosecution Service said it was satisfied there had been sufficient evidence for a "realistic prospect of conviction" and it had been in the public interest to proceed. During the trial, the jury heard extracts from a speech Mr Griffin made in the Reservoir Tavern in Keighley, on 19 January 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole". At the same event, Mr Collett addressed the audience by saying: "Let's show these ethnics the door in 2004." In his closing argument, Nick Griffin's barrister said his client's words were part of a "campaign speech of an official and legitimate party". Peter H All new Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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