Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts! Jo The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no smoking " signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure. " SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004 Scotland: March 2006 Northern Ireland: April 2007 Wales: April 2007 England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health. " She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an " historic day " . " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades, " he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark, Forest lobby group Send us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been " draconian " . " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 and all my english friends would come over and complain righteously about california's no -smoking laws.... they are absolutely livid right now... >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM > > England smoke ban to start 1 July > >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs >after concerts! > >Jo > >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 >July next year, the government has announced. >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private >homes. > >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in >Wales starts on 2 April. > >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . > >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no >smoking " signs around their premises. > >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. > >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. > >Medical evidence > >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, >while making it easier for smokers to quit. > > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. > > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " > > SMOKING BANS >Irish Republic: March 2004 >Scotland: March 2006 >Northern Ireland: April 2007 >Wales: April 2007 >England: July 2007 > >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as >a result of the law change. > >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to >improve public health. " > >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be >able to visit pubs and restaurants. > >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be >an " historic day " . > > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring >about some of the most significant health improvements the country >has seen in decades, " he said. > > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere >in every aspect of our daily lives > >Simon Clark, >Forest lobby group > > >Send us your comments > >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. > >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free >vote. > >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that >decision had been " draconian " . > > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. > > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " > >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 i read recently that certain pubs in select cities are testing a fingerprint scanner??? you have to have yer fingerprint scanned before you can drink ??????? whats going on over there??? >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM > > England smoke ban to start 1 July > >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs >after concerts! > >Jo > >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 >July next year, the government has announced. >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private >homes. > >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in >Wales starts on 2 April. > >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . > >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no >smoking " signs around their premises. > >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. > >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. > >Medical evidence > >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, >while making it easier for smokers to quit. > > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. > > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " > > SMOKING BANS >Irish Republic: March 2004 >Scotland: March 2006 >Northern Ireland: April 2007 >Wales: April 2007 >England: July 2007 > >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as >a result of the law change. > >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to >improve public health. " > >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be >able to visit pubs and restaurants. > >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be >an " historic day " . > > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring >about some of the most significant health improvements the country >has seen in decades, " he said. > > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere >in every aspect of our daily lives > >Simon Clark, >Forest lobby group > > >Send us your comments > >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. > >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free >vote. > >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that >decision had been " draconian " . > > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. > > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " > >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Sorry to sound brusque Louis - but I would prefer you and other smokers not to kill me. I have had a mother and uncle die of lung cancer, and it is a very nasty way to go. If you want to take the chance of killing yourself that is your choice, but I don't see why smokers should pollute the environment for everyone else. Jo - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Who - the Californians or the English ? I am happy. The last two concerts we have been to have been smoke free and it was bliss! No sore throat and aching lungs for the three days afterwards which is what usually happens. It will be lovely to go to a pub to meet friends and not come home with all my clothes (including underwear) smelling of smoke. Maybe smoke does something to the brains of smokers that makes them oblivious to the rights of others and the distasteful aspects of their habit. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, December 01, 2006 4:58 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > and all my english friends would come over and complain righteously about california's no -smoking laws.... > they are absolutely livid right now... > > > >heartwerk <jo.heartwork > >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM > > > > England smoke ban to start 1 July > > > >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs > >after concerts! > > > >Jo > > > >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result > >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 > >July next year, the government has announced. > >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including > >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private > >homes. > > > >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in > >Wales starts on 2 April. > > > >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but > >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . > > > >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no > >smoking " signs around their premises. > > > >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step > >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. > > > >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about 50m. > > > >Medical evidence > > > >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, > >while making it easier for smokers to quit. > > > > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke > >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung > >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. > > > > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused > >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is > >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " > > > > SMOKING BANS > >Irish Republic: March 2004 > >Scotland: March 2006 > >Northern Ireland: April 2007 > >Wales: April 2007 > >England: July 2007 > > > >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as > >a result of the law change. > > > >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, > >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a > >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to > >improve public health. " > > > >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that > >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be > >able to visit pubs and restaurants. > > > >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be > >an " historic day " . > > > > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring > >about some of the most significant health improvements the country > >has seen in decades, " he said. > > > > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere > >in every aspect of our daily lives > > > >Simon Clark, > >Forest lobby group > > > > > >Send us your comments > > > >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the > >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would > >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. > > > >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs > >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs > >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free > >vote. > > > >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that > >decision had been " draconian " . > > > > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every > >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set > >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. > > > > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that > >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " > > > >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, > >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Fraggle I don't know - I hadn't heard about that. They seem to want to get us all fingerprinted, microchipped etc. Very strange and worrying. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, December 01, 2006 5:03 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > i read recently that certain pubs in select cities are testing a fingerprint scanner??? > you have to have yer fingerprint scanned before you can drink > ??????? > whats going on over there??? > > > >heartwerk <jo.heartwork > >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM > > > > England smoke ban to start 1 July > > > >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs > >after concerts! > > > >Jo > > > >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result > >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 > >July next year, the government has announced. > >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including > >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private > >homes. > > > >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in > >Wales starts on 2 April. > > > >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but > >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . > > > >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no > >smoking " signs around their premises. > > > >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step > >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. > > > >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about 50m. > > > >Medical evidence > > > >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, > >while making it easier for smokers to quit. > > > > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke > >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung > >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. > > > > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused > >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is > >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " > > > > SMOKING BANS > >Irish Republic: March 2004 > >Scotland: March 2006 > >Northern Ireland: April 2007 > >Wales: April 2007 > >England: July 2007 > > > >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as > >a result of the law change. > > > >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, > >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a > >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to > >improve public health. " > > > >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that > >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be > >able to visit pubs and restaurants. > > > >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be > >an " historic day " . > > > > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring > >about some of the most significant health improvements the country > >has seen in decades, " he said. > > > > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere > >in every aspect of our daily lives > > > >Simon Clark, > >Forest lobby group > > > > > >Send us your comments > > > >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the > >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would > >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. > > > >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs > >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs > >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free > >vote. > > > >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that > >decision had been " draconian " . > > > > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every > >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set > >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. > > > > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that > >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " > > > >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, > >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 the english...they would raise holy hades when they'd come over here tho..most of the bars here seem not to really follow up on the ban anyways...depending on where you go.... >jo <jo.heartwork >Dec 1, 2006 9:16 AM > >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > >Who - the Californians or the English ? > >I am happy. The last two concerts we have been to have been smoke free and >it was bliss! No sore throat and aching lungs for the three days afterwards >which is what usually happens. > >It will be lovely to go to a pub to meet friends and not come home with all >my clothes (including underwear) smelling of smoke. Maybe smoke does >something to the brains of smokers that makes them oblivious to the rights >of others and the distasteful aspects of their habit. > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > >Friday, December 01, 2006 4:58 PM >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > > >> and all my english friends would come over and complain righteously about >california's no -smoking laws.... >> they are absolutely livid right now... >> >> >> >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >> >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM >> > >> > England smoke ban to start 1 July >> > >> >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs >> >after concerts! >> > >> >Jo >> > >> >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result >> >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 >> >July next year, the government has announced. >> >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including >> >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private >> >homes. >> > >> >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in >> >Wales starts on 2 April. >> > >> >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but >> >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . >> > >> >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no >> >smoking " signs around their premises. >> > >> >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step >> >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. >> > >> >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about 50m. >> > >> >Medical evidence >> > >> >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, >> >while making it easier for smokers to quit. >> > >> > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke >> >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung >> >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. >> > >> > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused >> >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is >> >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " >> > >> > SMOKING BANS >> >Irish Republic: March 2004 >> >Scotland: March 2006 >> >Northern Ireland: April 2007 >> >Wales: April 2007 >> >England: July 2007 >> > >> >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as >> >a result of the law change. >> > >> >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, >> >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a >> >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to >> >improve public health. " >> > >> >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that >> >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be >> >able to visit pubs and restaurants. >> > >> >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be >> >an " historic day " . >> > >> > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring >> >about some of the most significant health improvements the country >> >has seen in decades, " he said. >> > >> > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere >> >in every aspect of our daily lives >> > >> >Simon Clark, >> >Forest lobby group >> > >> > >> >Send us your comments >> > >> >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the >> >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would >> >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. >> > >> >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs >> >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs >> >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free >> >vote. >> > >> >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that >> >decision had been " draconian " . >> > >> > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every >> >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set >> >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. >> > >> > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that >> >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " >> > >> >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, >> >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Louis Yeah - must be tough having to breathe evereyone else's fresh air whenever you want to go to a pub or a concert... 'scuse the sarcasm, but ever since I've been going to gigs, no-one has ever seemed to worry about how "sad" it has been for non-smokers for all these years. BB Peter - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Oh well. There have been promises of patrols here to make sure it is enforced, and in Scotland where it already is in force somebody has been taken to court. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, December 01, 2006 5:38 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > the english...they would raise holy hades when they'd come over here > > tho..most of the bars here seem not to really follow up on the ban anyways...depending on where you go.... > > > >jo <jo.heartwork > >Dec 1, 2006 9:16 AM > > > >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > > > >Who - the Californians or the English ? > > > >I am happy. The last two concerts we have been to have been smoke free and > >it was bliss! No sore throat and aching lungs for the three days afterwards > >which is what usually happens. > > > >It will be lovely to go to a pub to meet friends and not come home with all > >my clothes (including underwear) smelling of smoke. Maybe smoke does > >something to the brains of smokers that makes them oblivious to the rights > >of others and the distasteful aspects of their habit. > > > >Jo > > > >- > > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > > > >Friday, December 01, 2006 4:58 PM > >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > > > > > >> and all my english friends would come over and complain righteously about > >california's no -smoking laws.... > >> they are absolutely livid right now... > >> > >> > >> >heartwerk <jo.heartwork > >> >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM > >> > > >> > England smoke ban to start 1 July > >> > > >> >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs > >> >after concerts! > >> > > >> >Jo > >> > > >> >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result > >> >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 > >> >July next year, the government has announced. > >> >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including > >> >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private > >> >homes. > >> > > >> >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in > >> >Wales starts on 2 April. > >> > > >> >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but > >> >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . > >> > > >> >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no > >> >smoking " signs around their premises. > >> > > >> >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step > >> >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. > >> > > >> >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about 50m. > >> > > >> >Medical evidence > >> > > >> >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, > >> >while making it easier for smokers to quit. > >> > > >> > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke > >> >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung > >> >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. > >> > > >> > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused > >> >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is > >> >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " > >> > > >> > SMOKING BANS > >> >Irish Republic: March 2004 > >> >Scotland: March 2006 > >> >Northern Ireland: April 2007 > >> >Wales: April 2007 > >> >England: July 2007 > >> > > >> >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as > >> >a result of the law change. > >> > > >> >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, > >> >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a > >> >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to > >> >improve public health. " > >> > > >> >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that > >> >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be > >> >able to visit pubs and restaurants. > >> > > >> >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be > >> >an " historic day " . > >> > > >> > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring > >> >about some of the most significant health improvements the country > >> >has seen in decades, " he said. > >> > > >> > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere > >> >in every aspect of our daily lives > >> > > >> >Simon Clark, > >> >Forest lobby group > >> > > >> > > >> >Send us your comments > >> > > >> >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the > >> >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would > >> >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. > >> > > >> >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs > >> >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs > >> >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free > >> >vote. > >> > > >> >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that > >> >decision had been " draconian " . > >> > > >> > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every > >> >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set > >> >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. > >> > > >> > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that > >> >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " > >> > > >> >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, > >> >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To send an email to - > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 read it last nite in the Celebrator beer news wait..here..looked it up Fingerprinting Beerdrinkers - Big Brother Loves Technology October 20, 2006 - Beer fingerprints to go UK-wide By Mark Ballard - The government is funding the roll out of fingerprint security at the doors of pubs and clubs in major English cities. Funding is being offered to councils that want to have their pubs keep a regional black list of known trouble makers. The fingerprint network installed in February by South Somerset District Council in Yeovil drinking holes is being used as the showcase. " The Home Office have looked at our system and are looking at trials in other towns including Coventry, Hull & Sheffield, " said Julia Bradburn, principal licensing manager at South Somerset District Council. Gwent and Nottingham police have also shown an interest, while Taunton, a town neighbouring Yeovil, is discussing the installation of fingerprint systems in 10 pubs and clubs with the systems supplier CreativeCode. Bradburn could not say if fingerprint security in Yeovil had displaced crime to neighbouring towns, but she noted that domestic violence had risen in Yeovil. She could not give more details until the publication of national crime statistics to coincide with the anniversary of lax pub licensing laws on 24 November. She was, however, able to say that alcohol-related crime had reduced by 48 per cent Yeovil between February and September 2006. The council had assumed it was its duty under the Crime and Disorder Act (1998) to reduce drunken disorder by fingerprinting drinkers in the town centre. Some licensees were not happy to have their punters fingerprinted, but are all now apparently behind the idea. Not only does the council let them open later if they join the scheme, but the system costs them only £1.50 a day to run. Oh, and they are also coerced into taking the fingerprint system. New licences stipulate that a landlord who doesn't install fingerprint security and fails to show a " considerable " reduction in alcohol-related violence, will be put on report by the police and have their licences revoked. Offenders can be banned from one pub or all of them for a specified time - usually a period of months - by a committee of landlords and police called Pub Watch. Their offences are recorded against their names in the fingerprint system. Bradburn noted the system had a " psychological effect " on offenders. She said there had been only been two " major " instances of alcohol-related crime reported in Yeovil pubs and clubs since February. One was a sexual assault in a club toilet. The other occurred last Friday when an under-18 Disco at Dukes nightclub got out of hand after the youngsters had obtained some alcohol from elsewhere. A fight between two youngsters escalated into a brawl involving 435 12 to 16 year olds A major incident is when 15 police attend the scene, said Bradburn. She was unable to say how many minor incidents there had been, but acknowledged that fights were still occurring in the streets of Yeovil. The Home Office paid for Yeovil's system in full, with £6,000 of Safer, Stronger Communities funding. Bradburn said the Home Office had paid her scheme a visit and subsequently decided to fund similar systems in Coventry, Hull and Sheffield. The Home Office distanced itself from the plans. It said it provided funding to Safer, Stronger Communities through the Department for Communities and Local Government's Local Area Agreements. How they spent the money was a local decision, said a HO spokeswoman. >jo <jo.heartwork >Dec 1, 2006 9:19 AM > >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > >Hi Fraggle > >I don't know - I hadn't heard about that. They seem to want to get us all >fingerprinted, microchipped etc. Very strange and worrying. > >Jo > >- > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > >Friday, December 01, 2006 5:03 PM >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > > >> i read recently that certain pubs in select cities are testing a >fingerprint scanner??? >> you have to have yer fingerprint scanned before you can drink >> ??????? >> whats going on over there??? >> >> >> >heartwerk <jo.heartwork >> >Nov 30, 2006 11:33 PM >> > >> > England smoke ban to start 1 July >> > >> >Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs >> >after concerts! >> > >> >Jo >> > >> >The government says 600,000 people will quit as a result >> >Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 >> >July next year, the government has announced. >> >The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including >> >offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private >> >homes. >> > >> >It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in >> >Wales starts on 2 April. >> > >> >Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but >> >opponents say the total ban is " draconian " . >> > >> >From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent " no >> >smoking " signs around their premises. >> > >> >Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a " huge step >> >forward " which would save thousands of people's lives. >> > >> >The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about 50m. >> > >> >Medical evidence >> > >> >Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, >> >while making it easier for smokers to quit. >> > >> > " The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke >> >kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung >> >cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome, " she said. >> > >> > " This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused >> >every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is >> >absolutely no safe level of exposure. " >> > >> > SMOKING BANS >> >Irish Republic: March 2004 >> >Scotland: March 2006 >> >Northern Ireland: April 2007 >> >Wales: April 2007 >> >England: July 2007 >> > >> >The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as >> >a result of the law change. >> > >> >The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, >> >chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: " This is a >> >victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to >> >improve public health. " >> > >> >She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that >> >tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be >> >able to visit pubs and restaurants. >> > >> >Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be >> >an " historic day " . >> > >> > " Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring >> >about some of the most significant health improvements the country >> >has seen in decades, " he said. >> > >> > [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere >> >in every aspect of our daily lives >> > >> >Simon Clark, >> >Forest lobby group >> > >> > >> >Send us your comments >> > >> >British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the >> >announcement, saying it gave businesses " greater clarity " and would >> >allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. >> > >> >The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs >> >serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs >> >eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free >> >vote. >> > >> >Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that >> >decision had been " draconian " . >> > >> > " From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every >> >pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set >> >up a private club run by smokers for smokers, " he said. >> > >> > " That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that >> >seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives. " >> > >> >The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, >> >to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 here it depends on the bar and its location if the bartender doesn't care, er if its all their friend's, people smoke.... *shrug* i could name a dozen bars off the top of me noggin where it's smokey most nights... >jo <jo.heartwork >Dec 1, 2006 10:46 AM > >Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July > >Oh well. There have been promises of patrols here to make sure it is >enforced, and in Scotland where it already is in force somebody has been >taken to court. > >Jo > History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Overall though it may help a lot of people decide to pack in the fags, and thus save a few more lives.So it could be a blessing in disguise for some ? The Valley Vegan..................louis stott <lsstott wrote: this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 AND................Wales are doing it before England............. The Valley Vegan..............heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 A man is suing his former employer after he was sacked for smoking cigarettes in his own home. Scott Rodrigues says that he was fired from his lawn-care job in Massachusetts after only a few weeks because he failed a drug test, which came up positive for nicotine. The employer, Scotts Co, of Cleveland, Ohio, established a policy this year forbidding smoking among its workers. The idea was to promote healthy lifestyles and bring down medical insurance costs. In the 20 states that allow such policies Scotts Co refuses to hire smokers and tests all new employees for nicotine, Jim King, its vice-president, said. He added that all new employees are told that they must be tobacco-free and that they will be tested for nicotine. “It’s on our website. It’s on our terms of employment when they are hired,” Mr King said. Mr Rodrigues said that he did not know that he would be tested for nicotine and that he even chewed Nicorette chewing gum on the way to the drug test. The employer knew that he smoked because he had worked for the company previously, he said. He added that he never smoked during work or on a break. “I didn’t think you couldn’t smoke at home,” he said. His lawsuit claims that the company violated his rights under the Massachusetts Privacy Statute and other state law. The lawsuit asks for unspecified damages and lawyer’s fees. Mr Rodrigues’s lawyer, Harvey Schwartz, said that companies can require drug tests if they believe that their employees are using the substances at work or if drug use would seriously interfere with the job. Neither was true in this case, he said.Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 u just has to toot that welsh horn didn't ya! peter VV Dec 1, 2006 11:56 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July AND................Wales are doing it before England............. The Valley Vegan..............heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Nice to have you back on line, house and monitor sorted? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: u just has to toot that welsh horn didn't ya! peter VV Dec 1, 2006 11:56 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July AND................Wales are doing it before England............. The Valley Vegan..............heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 nope..not really.... monitor supposedly getting tomorrow from a friend won't know if roof is fixed until it rains again... nice.......... peter VV Dec 1, 2006 12:32 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July Nice to have you back on line, house and monitor sorted? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: u just has to toot that welsh horn didn't ya! peter VV Dec 1, 2006 11:56 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July AND................Wales are doing it before England............. The Valley Vegan..............heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Good for you. Jo - peter VV Friday, December 01, 2006 7:56 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July AND................Wales are doing it before England............. The Valley Vegan..............heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Peter I think the sarcasm is well called for on this subject. BBJo - Peter Friday, December 01, 2006 6:22 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July Hi Louis Yeah - must be tough having to breathe evereyone else's fresh air whenever you want to go to a pub or a concert... 'scuse the sarcasm, but ever since I've been going to gigs, no-one has ever seemed to worry about how "sad" it has been for non-smokers for all these years. BB Peter - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi Jo, I too lost two relatives to lung cancer due to smoking - my father and my uncle I have a sister who like me has never smoked, unfortunately my brother has smoked from quite an early age. When talking to my brother at times I say to him please give up smoking. I do this in a non-judgemental way, as I know that stopping smoking is a very hard thing to do - as I have been told it is one of the worst drugs to come off. Yes, afterall it is a drug to one's body! Let's be honest here the government makes a lot of money from people smoking! People get hooked - they are then left with the consequences! I look forward to this ban on smoking. My husband who doesn't smoke who once a week goes to play pool comes home smelling of smoke - It will be nice to know that in the future this will not be the case Teresa - jo Friday, December 01, 2006 5:13 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July Sorry to sound brusque Louis - but I would prefer you and other smokers not to kill me. I have had a mother and uncle die of lung cancer, and it is a very nasty way to go. If you want to take the chance of killing yourself that is your choice, but I don't see why smokers should pollute the environment for everyone else. Jo - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi Teresa (or Geraldine?) >I look forward to this ban on smoking. My husband who doesn't smoke who once a week goes to play pool comes home smelling of smoke - It will be nice to know that in the future > this will not be the case I always dislike smelling of smoke, which until now has always been a result of going to concerts. I also have a friend who has fairly bad asthma, and can't go into smokey atmospheres - I know she is thoroughly looking forward to being able to go to gigs and pubs without putting her life in danger :-) BB Peeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 i would jist like to point out that I HAVE BAD ASTHMA TOO but i smoke up to 30 a day if you dont like the smell go to a pub with out the smokers part , why should i give up for you lot ????Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Teresa (or Geraldine?) >I look forward to this ban on smoking. My husband who doesn't smoke who once a week goes to play pool comes home smelling of smoke - It will be nice to know that in the future > this will not be the case I always dislike smelling of smoke, which until now has always been a result of going to concerts. I also have a friend who has fairly bad asthma, and can't go into smokey atmospheres - I know she is thoroughly looking forward to being able to go to gigs and pubs without putting her life in danger :-) BB Peeter Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 hi jo smokein is not the only thing thats kills you breath in walkin in hi street where all the cars smoke out i think we should have smokers pubs and non smokers pubs we smokers are not the { only } smoke what killsGeraldine McCarthy <geraldine.mccarthy wrote: Hi Jo, I too lost two relatives to lung cancer due to smoking - my father and my uncle I have a sister who like me has never smoked, unfortunately my brother has smoked from quite an early age. When talking to my brother at times I say to him please give up smoking. I do this in a non-judgemental way, as I know that stopping smoking is a very hard thing to do - as I have been told it is one of the worst drugs to come off. Yes, afterall it is a drug to one's body! Let's be honest here the government makes a lot of money from people smoking! People get hooked - they are then left with the consequences! I look forward to this ban on smoking. My husband who doesn't smoke who once a week goes to play pool comes home smelling of smoke - It will be nice to know that in the future this will not be the case Teresa - jo Friday, December 01, 2006 5:13 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July Sorry to sound brusque Louis - but I would prefer you and other smokers not to kill me. I have had a mother and uncle die of lung cancer, and it is a very nasty way to go. If you want to take the chance of killing yourself that is your choice, but I don't see why smokers should pollute the environment for everyone else. Jo - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 hi teresa smokin is not the worst drug to come off think about it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Geraldine McCarthy <geraldine.mccarthy wrote: Hi Jo, I too lost two relatives to lung cancer due to smoking - my father and my uncle I have a sister who like me has never smoked, unfortunately my brother has smoked from quite an early age. When talking to my brother at times I say to him please give up smoking. I do this in a non-judgemental way, as I know that stopping smoking is a very hard thing to do - as I have been told it is one of the worst drugs to come off. Yes, afterall it is a drug to one's body! Let's be honest here the government makes a lot of money from people smoking! People get hooked - they are then left with the consequences! I look forward to this ban on smoking. My husband who doesn't smoke who once a week goes to play pool comes home smelling of smoke - It will be nice to know that in the future this will not be the case Teresa - jo Friday, December 01, 2006 5:13 PM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July Sorry to sound brusque Louis - but I would prefer you and other smokers not to kill me. I have had a mother and uncle die of lung cancer, and it is a very nasty way to go. If you want to take the chance of killing yourself that is your choice, but I don't see why smokers should pollute the environment for everyone else. Jo - louis stott Friday, December 01, 2006 8:39 AM Re: England smoke ban to start 1 July this is very sad for us smokers all it means that we shall have to go the parks etc for a fag heartwerk <jo.heartwork > wrote: Yay - whoooowhooooo - brilliant. No more sore throats and lungs after concerts!JoThe government says 600,000 people will quit as a result Smoking in enclosed public places will be banned in England from 1 July next year, the government has announced. The ban covers virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs and bars, but not outdoors or in private homes. It follows similar bans in the Irish Republic and Scotland - a ban in Wales starts on 2 April. Ministers say it will protect everyone from passive smoking, but opponents say the total ban is "draconian". From 1 July pubs and restaurants will have to display prominent "no smoking" signs around their premises. Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt said the ban was a "huge step forward" which would save thousands of people's lives. The cost of implementing the ban has been estimated at about £50m. Medical evidence Ms Hewitt said the ban would protect everyone from second-hand smoke, while making it easier for smokers to quit. "The scientific and medical evidence is clear - second-hand smoke kills, causing a range of serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, and sudden infant death syndrome," she said. "This legislation will help to prevent the unnecessary deaths caused every year from second-hand smoke, and recognises that there is absolutely no safe level of exposure." SMOKING BANS Irish Republic: March 2004Scotland: March 2006Northern Ireland: April 2007Wales: April 2007England: July 2007 The government predicts about 600,000 people will give up smoking as a result of the law change. The news was welcomed by health campaigners. Dame Helena Shovelton, chief executive of the British Lung Foundation, said: "This is a victory for all those of us who have campaigned so vigorously to improve public health." She said it would reduce the death toll linked to smoking and that tens of thousands of people with lung disease would once again be able to visit pubs and restaurants. Cancer Research UK chief, Prof Alex Markham, said 1 July would be an "historic day". "Making workplaces and enclosed public places smoke free will bring about some of the most significant health improvements the country has seen in decades," he said. [it's] typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives Simon Clark,Forest lobby groupSend us your comments British Beer and Pub Association boss, Rob Hayward, welcomed the announcement, saying it gave businesses "greater clarity" and would allow them to prepare their customers for the changes. The Cabinet originally proposed prohibiting smoking only in pubs serving food, in line with Labour's election manifesto - but MPs eventually backed a total ban in enclosed public spaces in a free vote. Simon Clark, director of the smokers' lobby group Forest, said that decision had been "draconian". "From July next year it will not only be illegal to smoke in every pub, club and bar in the country, it will also be impossible to set up a private club run by smokers for smokers," he said. "That's an amazing state of affairs but typical of a government that seems determined to interfere in every aspect of our daily lives." The health secretary is also launching a Smokefree England campaign, to advise England's 3.7m businesses to prepare for the ban. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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