Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Hey Danita, I have a warped sense of humour, but was your tongue protruding through your cheek there? or were you serious? I think you are turning into a riddle wrapped in an enigma...I just cant figure you out.But thats enough about my problems. Please though spare a thought for the younger vegans who may be put off with such graphic depictions of a sexual nature?, you just need to take things a bit slower, chill out a bit eh, but then my idea of life in the fast lane is a running herd of sheep........... The Valley Vegan...............HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: So now females that identify with the name Gaia, which means Earth, dislike men and can not interact with them?? huh?? Is that why i love monogamist sex with my 10 year younger than i boyfriend more than once day, is because i dislike him?? I didn't have to mention him but now i feel i must after that inflammatory remark aimed at me~ And dont tell that to the guys i've lifted weights with for over 20 years now, that i can not interact with them, they might not ask me to spot them next time, but i doubt it~ Some religious people tend to think that Vegans are all atheist and or gay~ Sounds familiar? And i thought you would know better than to lump people in a box just because of their title of all things?? well, i am somewhat an atheist, i'm a Pantheist, a very sexual one that loves only one type of meat, that's healthy lean live meat called COCK from only one man~ yummy! thank you! Danita ---- heartwerk 03/12/07 01:10:48 Re: Being Awake DanitaI am tiring of this thread. I feel you may be of the same frame of mind as a few other women I know who join Gaia groups (wymyns groups) mainly because they dislike men and cannot interact with them.Can I suggest, as moderator, that we drop this thread of accusation immediately.Thank you.Jo , "HAH" <GaiaHemp wrote:>> > I can recall on a hotel job i had in the late 80s, early 90s, before it was> imploded, i had been a bell hop/limo driver/door lady at The Sands Hotel & > Casino ( i've worked many male oriented type jobs in the past before, i had> also been a PipeFitter & Plumber Apprentice at The Nevada Test Site before i> became very ill in the late 70s, early 80s) I was the 2nd female on the job> there had only been 1 before me, ever, in that occupation, she was a lil> older than me~ The males there would watch porn in the back around the> luggage on a tv we had there, she watched with them, i didnt~ This was also> the time Anita Hill was testifying before congress about being sexually> harassed by now Justice Thomas~ The men would say horrible things about Miss> Hill right in front of us 2 females, the older female bellhop didn't see> anything wrong with what was being said about Miss Hill, i thought it was> the most offensive moment in my life~ They also would say sexist things to> both of us, she would laugh along, i eventually quit the job because i was> the odd bird out~> > > So you see, Jo, it's not about how YOU felt what he said to me came across,> even thou i respect your thoughts on this, its about how it felt to me,> which i only wanted to point out why it felt that way, for i also i thought> Peter was now dodging me on this issue since he never left an explanation as> to why he thought i was wicked~ > > > > > anyway, i got to go walk my furry child, she is a growling right now at me:)> > > ciao!> Danita> > > > ----> > jo> 03/11/07 17:03:47> > Re: Being Awake> > I certainly did not feel there was anything sexist in what Peter said. I> have no particular recollection of him ever being sexist, and I think I> would be aware of it if he was. > > Jo> - > Peter > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:52 PM> Re: Being Awake> > > Hi Danita> > Whoa there. I think you're reading way too much into what most of us read as> a throw away comment.> > I'm hoping there is something of jest in your below comments, because if> there's not then I do feel I need to point out just how sexist you are being> with those comments. I think maybe you should try viewing the comments> people make as though they have come from people, rather than which> genitalia the person making the comment happens to have. I wonder if you> would have taken such offence if Jo had made the same comment to you (which> knowing Jo, I can well see her doing!)?> > Very briefly putting on my moderators hat, I do feel a need to say that if> you feel someone has said something offensive, the approriate thing to do is> to contact the moderators (myself, Fraggle & Jo), and highlight the issue.> It really isn't appropriate to send a post to the list accusing people of> sexism, as this in itself is offensive behaviour.> > BB> Peter> - > HAH > > Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:23 PM> Re: Being Awake> > > Ok Peter,> > I've been waiting a day for you to respond back on your assumption about> you sensing a wicked side to me, and i have to say now that i'm offended by> your comment being that it has, what i view as, a religious sexist overtone> to it~ I say religious as well because many males tend to refer to females> as "evilwickedwhores" etc.. when we fight back against male aggression> for that attitude comes from religious conditioning, just as the need to> have dominion over other species and races~ You made that comment based on> the fact of my gender just as someone would do based on the fact of their> race or even age~ I was also offended by many sexist comments coming from> that mailman when he realized there was no chance in his lifetime that i> would be cooking up a pot of dead animal for him anyday soon, so he said > maybe i could come over and just "hangout" then??" Meaning he now thought i> could be a piece of meat since i wont be cooking it up for him~ > > As a Vegan, i've awaken to not only the conditioning of how we humans> horribly treat animals, but also how many males have been conditioned to> treat females, just as a piece of meat, (case in point, many strip bars that> now serve meat with the meat) and if they can't get that then they make> sexist comments towards us~ I am no more wicked than you are a "dog" or > wimp" when you find the need one day to vent about issues that you must deal> with as a male that's also a Vegan, ok? Just give me the same respect, that> s all i ask~ > > > > thank you,> Danita > > ----> > HAH> 03/10/07 20:10:13> > Re: Being Awake> > How so?> > ----> > peter VV> 03/10/07 16:13:57> > Re: Being Awake> > I am begining to sense a wicked side to you!> > The Valley Vegan...............> > HAH <GaiaHemp wrote:> You know, as Vegans, we are so awakened to what's really going on, so alive> i cant see how anyone could stop being a Vegan, give it up and go back to> eating and wearing once living peaceful beings again?? I mean, i am so now> weirded out by the fact that my new coat, i wanted to wear next fall, might> be a dog or raccoon? yeeesh! > > Just yesterday, as i was doing my gardening before i sow new seeds this> season, my hands covered in rich black soil, for i don't care to wear gloves> because i love the feeling of the soil on my hands and the smell too, my> mail man drove by after delivering the mail and asked me out for a date~ I> could tell he was a big time animal eater, and the way i got rid of him was> to immediately tell him that i was a Vegan:) He had already wrote his phone> number on a piece of paper and i could see him slowly crumbling up the paper> in his hand as he stood there in shock, pot belly and all! hehehe! Yeah, i> love Veganism and what it shields away from me, as well, the bad and ugly> but never the good, for it keeps the good a comin as long as we remain awake> and on top of being true to what it stands for~> > just venting before i go off to work, ok? > > > > love*light,> GaiaHemp > > > > > > > > > Peter H > > > > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your> email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship.> Peter H Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Oh no, Not a wicked streak ............. Jo - peter VV Monday, March 12, 2007 7:31 PM Re: Being Awake Quiet now Jo, and get back in the kitchen....................man talking sorry, sometimes my wicked streak is a mile long. The Valley Vegan.................... jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I certainly did not feel there was anything sexist in what Peter said. I have no particular recollection of him ever being sexist, and I think I would be aware of it if he was. Jo - Peter Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:52 PM Re: Being Awake Hi Danita Whoa there. I think you're reading way too much into what most of us read as a throw away comment. I'm hoping there is something of jest in your below comments, because if there's not then I do feel I need to point out just how sexist you are being with those comments. I think maybe you should try viewing the comments people make as though they have come from people, rather than which genitalia the person making the comment happens to have. I wonder if you would have taken such offence if Jo had made the same comment to you (which knowing Jo, I can well see her doing!)? Very briefly putting on my moderators hat, I do feel a need to say that if you feel someone has said something offensive, the approriate thing to do is to contact the moderators (myself, Fraggle & Jo), and highlight the issue. It really isn't appropriate to send a post to the list accusing people of sexism, as this in itself is offensive behaviour. BB Peter - HAH Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:23 PM Re: Being Awake Ok Peter, I've been waiting a day for you to respond back on your assumption about you sensing a wicked side to me, and i have to say now that i'm offended by your comment being that it has, what i view as, a religious sexist overtone to it~ I say religious as well because many males tend to refer to females as "evilwickedwhores" etc.. when we fight back against male aggression, for that attitude comes from religious conditioning, just as the need to have dominion over other species and races~ You made that comment based on the fact of my gender just as someone would do based on the fact of their race or even age~ I was also offended by many sexist comments coming from that mailman when he realized there was no chance in his lifetime that i would be cooking up a pot of dead animal for him anyday soon, so he said "maybe i could come over and just "hangout" then??" Meaning he now thought i could be a piece of meat since i wont be cooking it up for him~ As a Vegan, i've awaken to not only the conditioning of how we humans horribly treat animals, but also how many males have been conditioned to treat females, just as a piece of meat, (case in point, many strip bars that now serve meat with the meat) and if they can't get that then they make sexist comments towards us~ I am no more wicked than you are a "dog" or "wimp" when you find the need one day to vent about issues that you must deal with as a male that's also a Vegan, ok? Just give me the same respect, that's all i ask~ thank you, Danita ---- HAH 03/10/07 20:10:13 Re: Being Awake How so? ---- peter VV 03/10/07 16:13:57 Re: Being Awake I am begining to sense a wicked side to you! The Valley Vegan...............HAH <GaiaHemp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: You know, as Vegans, we are so awakened to what's really going on, so alive, i cant see how anyone could stop being a Vegan, give it up and go back to eating and wearing once living peaceful beings again?? I mean, i am so now weirded out by the fact that my new coat, i wanted to wear next fall, might be a dog or raccoon? yeeesh! Just yesterday, as i was doing my gardening before i sow new seeds this season, my hands covered in rich black soil, for i don't care to wear gloves because i love the feeling of the soil on my hands and the smell too, my mail man drove by after delivering the mail and asked me out for a date~ I could tell he was a big time animal eater, and the way i got rid of him was to immediately tell him that i was a Vegan:) He had already wrote his phone number on a piece of paper and i could see him slowly crumbling up the paper in his hand as he stood there in shock, pot belly and all! hehehe! Yeah, i love Veganism and what it shields away from me, as well, the bad and ugly but never the good, for it keeps the good a comin as long as we remain awake and on top of being true to what it stands for~ just venting before i go off to work, ok? love*light, GaiaHemp Peter H What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship. Peter H What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 sometimes i'm happy i don't have web access over the weekend, i swear... each monday is a new adventure in "what the heck is going on now?!" peter VV Mar 12, 2007 3:31 PM Re: Being Awake Quiet now Jo, and get back in the kitchen....................man talking sorry, sometimes my wicked streak is a mile long. The Valley Vegan.................... jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I certainly did not feel there was anything sexist in what Peter said. I have no particular recollection of him ever being sexist, and I think I would be aware of it if he was. Jo - Peter Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:52 PM Re: Being Awake Hi Danita Whoa there. I think you're reading way too much into what most of us read as a throw away comment. I'm hoping there is something of jest in your below comments, because if there's not then I do feel I need to point out just how sexist you are being with those comments. I think maybe you should try viewing the comments people make as though they have come from people, rather than which genitalia the person making the comment happens to have. I wonder if you would have taken such offence if Jo had made the same comment to you (which knowing Jo, I can well see her doing!)? Very briefly putting on my moderators hat, I do feel a need to say that if you feel someone has said something offensive, the approriate thing to do is to contact the moderators (myself, Fraggle & Jo), and highlight the issue. It really isn't appropriate to send a post to the list accusing people of sexism, as this in itself is offensive behaviour. BB Peter - HAH Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:23 PM Re: Being Awake Ok Peter, I've been waiting a day for you to respond back on your assumption about you sensing a wicked side to me, and i have to say now that i'm offended by your comment being that it has, what i view as, a religious sexist overtone to it~ I say religious as well because many males tend to refer to females as "evilwickedwhores" etc.. when we fight back against male aggression, for that attitude comes from religious conditioning, just as the need to have dominion over other species and races~ You made that comment based on the fact of my gender just as someone would do based on the fact of their race or even age~ I was also offended by many sexist comments coming from that mailman when he realized there was no chance in his lifetime that i would be cooking up a pot of dead animal for him anyday soon, so he said "maybe i could come over and just "hangout" then??" Meaning he now thought i could be a piece of meat since i wont be cooking it up for him~ As a Vegan, i've awaken to not only the conditioning of how we humans horribly treat animals, but also how many males have been conditioned to treat females, just as a piece of meat, (case in point, many strip bars that now serve meat with the meat) and if they can't get that then they make sexist comments towards us~ I am no more wicked than you are a "dog" or "wimp" when you find the need one day to vent about issues that you must deal with as a male that's also a Vegan, ok? Just give me the same respect, that's all i ask~ thank you, Danita ---- HAH 03/10/07 20:10:13 Re: Being Awake How so? ---- peter VV 03/10/07 16:13:57 Re: Being Awake I am begining to sense a wicked side to you! The Valley Vegan...............HAH <GaiaHemp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: You know, as Vegans, we are so awakened to what's really going on, so alive, i cant see how anyone could stop being a Vegan, give it up and go back to eating and wearing once living peaceful beings again?? I mean, i am so now weirded out by the fact that my new coat, i wanted to wear next fall, might be a dog or raccoon? yeeesh! Just yesterday, as i was doing my gardening before i sow new seeds this season, my hands covered in rich black soil, for i don't care to wear gloves because i love the feeling of the soil on my hands and the smell too, my mail man drove by after delivering the mail and asked me out for a date~ I could tell he was a big time animal eater, and the way i got rid of him was to immediately tell him that i was a Vegan:) He had already wrote his phone number on a piece of paper and i could see him slowly crumbling up the paper in his hand as he stood there in shock, pot belly and all! hehehe! Yeah, i love Veganism and what it shields away from me, as well, the bad and ugly but never the good, for it keeps the good a comin as long as we remain awake and on top of being true to what it stands for~ just venting before i go off to work, ok? love*light, GaiaHemp Peter H What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. 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Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 And with my body, it aint a pretty sight! The Valley Vegan..................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Oh no, Not a wicked streak ............. Jo - peter VV Monday, March 12, 2007 7:31 PM Re: Being Awake Quiet now Jo, and get back in the kitchen....................man talking sorry, sometimes my wicked streak is a mile long. The Valley Vegan.................... jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: I certainly did not feel there was anything sexist in what Peter said. I have no particular recollection of him ever being sexist, and I think I would be aware of it if he was. Jo - Peter Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:52 PM Re: Being Awake Hi Danita Whoa there. I think you're reading way too much into what most of us read as a throw away comment. I'm hoping there is something of jest in your below comments, because if there's not then I do feel I need to point out just how sexist you are being with those comments. I think maybe you should try viewing the comments people make as though they have come from people, rather than which genitalia the person making the comment happens to have. I wonder if you would have taken such offence if Jo had made the same comment to you (which knowing Jo, I can well see her doing!)? Very briefly putting on my moderators hat, I do feel a need to say that if you feel someone has said something offensive, the approriate thing to do is to contact the moderators (myself, Fraggle & Jo), and highlight the issue. It really isn't appropriate to send a post to the list accusing people of sexism, as this in itself is offensive behaviour. BB Peter - HAH Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:23 PM Re: Being Awake Ok Peter, I've been waiting a day for you to respond back on your assumption about you sensing a wicked side to me, and i have to say now that i'm offended by your comment being that it has, what i view as, a religious sexist overtone to it~ I say religious as well because many males tend to refer to females as "evilwickedwhores" etc.. when we fight back against male aggression, for that attitude comes from religious conditioning, just as the need to have dominion over other species and races~ You made that comment based on the fact of my gender just as someone would do based on the fact of their race or even age~ I was also offended by many sexist comments coming from that mailman when he realized there was no chance in his lifetime that i would be cooking up a pot of dead animal for him anyday soon, so he said "maybe i could come over and just "hangout" then??" Meaning he now thought i could be a piece of meat since i wont be cooking it up for him~ As a Vegan, i've awaken to not only the conditioning of how we humans horribly treat animals, but also how many males have been conditioned to treat females, just as a piece of meat, (case in point, many strip bars that now serve meat with the meat) and if they can't get that then they make sexist comments towards us~ I am no more wicked than you are a "dog" or "wimp" when you find the need one day to vent about issues that you must deal with as a male that's also a Vegan, ok? Just give me the same respect, that's all i ask~ thank you, Danita ---- HAH 03/10/07 20:10:13 Re: Being Awake How so? ---- peter VV 03/10/07 16:13:57 Re: Being Awake I am begining to sense a wicked side to you! The Valley Vegan...............HAH <GaiaHemp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: You know, as Vegans, we are so awakened to what's really going on, so alive, i cant see how anyone could stop being a Vegan, give it up and go back to eating and wearing once living peaceful beings again?? I mean, i am so now weirded out by the fact that my new coat, i wanted to wear next fall, might be a dog or raccoon? yeeesh! Just yesterday, as i was doing my gardening before i sow new seeds this season, my hands covered in rich black soil, for i don't care to wear gloves because i love the feeling of the soil on my hands and the smell too, my mail man drove by after delivering the mail and asked me out for a date~ I could tell he was a big time animal eater, and the way i got rid of him was to immediately tell him that i was a Vegan:) He had already wrote his phone number on a piece of paper and i could see him slowly crumbling up the paper in his hand as he stood there in shock, pot belly and all! hehehe! Yeah, i love Veganism and what it shields away from me, as well, the bad and ugly but never the good, for it keeps the good a comin as long as we remain awake and on top of being true to what it stands for~ just venting before i go off to work, ok? love*light, GaiaHemp Peter H What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. 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