Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 that got your attention?! hi, i'm blake, getting back into veganism after several years. i've been lurking for a couple weeks. i saw the recent posts about the dangers of soy. most, if not all, webpages and information about the " dangers " of soy stem from a very small group of people who are adherents of weston a. price, a dentist, who have founded a " foundation " in his name: http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm despite their insistence on organic foods, pastured animals, opposition to factory farming, whole grains and vegetables, minimal processing, etc., they are die-hard meat, dairy and egg fanatics. i know one personally. they believe that animals are there to be killed and eaten, and that humans cannot be healthy without animal flesh. they advocate drinking animal blood and eating organs. they also believe that soy and soy products are enjoyed worldwide as a result of a vast conspiracy by huge conglomerate soy manufacturers, who, after making soybean oil, needed to find a use for the leftovers, which they claim is...tofu and soy products! taking a look at the top google " soy alert " results, i get the following pages among the top 10: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html http://www.ratical.org/ratville/soydangers.html http://www.healthychild.com/soy-alert.htm http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-29/39839.html http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm all of these pages cite (you guessed it) the weston a. price foundation and/or sally fallon and mary enig. fallon and enig are (you guessed it) president and vice president, respectively, of...the weston price foundation: http://www.westonaprice.org/board.html they believe that all of our dietary ills are the result of 1). eating processed foods (well, okay...), and 2). not eating vast amounts of meat and dairy products. they deny that fat and cholesterol are leading contributors to disease. pay a visit to their site to get an idea of where they are at, and then make the connections between most, if not all, of the " soy will kill " disinfo on the web. their guru, dentist price, made all kinds of bizarre claims about health after he visited native people who had no tooth diseases and were " happy native " -types thanks to....eating lots of animals and coconuts. wiki's article also makes it clear that they are a lobbying organization, and centered in washington dc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Foundation here's a fun article about them: http://www.milkismilk.com/blog/2005/09/weston-a-price-citizens-for-health-et-alc\ ranks-crackpots-and-thieves/ of course, we all know that soy is no " miracle food " ; these folks reserve that claim for butter and duck fat: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html anyway, they are an interesting bunch: so right about so many things (no processed food, organic, etc) but so wrong about others ( " asians don't really eat soy " , you should drink blood, cholesterol is good for you, there is a vast global conspiracy brainwashing you into eating tofu, etc...). enjoy, i hope, blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 the weston folks are everywhere i see em on the news constantly, and our local pacifica station has a show every week that is lock stock and barrel 100% under their sway... >Blake Wilson <mbw >Mar 16, 2007 8:57 PM > > soy alert! > >that got your attention?! > >hi, i'm blake, getting back into veganism after several years. i've >been lurking for a couple weeks. i saw the recent posts about the >dangers of soy. most, if not all, webpages and information about the > " dangers " of soy stem from a very small group of people who are >adherents of weston a. price, a dentist, who have founded a > " foundation " in his name: > >http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm > >despite their insistence on organic foods, pastured animals, >opposition to factory farming, whole grains and vegetables, minimal >processing, etc., they are die-hard meat, dairy and egg fanatics. i >know one personally. they believe that animals are there to be killed >and eaten, and that humans cannot be healthy without animal flesh. >they advocate drinking animal blood and eating organs. they also >believe that soy and soy products are enjoyed worldwide as a result >of a vast conspiracy by huge conglomerate soy manufacturers, who, >after making soybean oil, needed to find a use for the leftovers, >which they claim is...tofu and soy products! > >taking a look at the top google " soy alert " results, i get the >following pages among the top 10: > >http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html >http://www.ratical.org/ratville/soydangers.html >http://www.healthychild.com/soy-alert.htm >http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-29/39839.html >http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm > >all of these pages cite (you guessed it) the weston a. price >foundation and/or sally fallon and mary enig. fallon and enig are >(you guessed it) president and vice president, respectively, of...the >weston price foundation: > >http://www.westonaprice.org/board.html > >they believe that all of our dietary ills are the result of 1). >eating processed foods (well, okay...), and 2). not eating vast >amounts of meat and dairy products. they deny that fat and >cholesterol are leading contributors to disease. pay a visit to >their site to get an idea of where they are at, and then make the >connections between most, if not all, of the " soy will kill " disinfo >on the web. their guru, dentist price, made all kinds of bizarre >claims about health after he visited native people who had no tooth >diseases and were " happy native " -types thanks to....eating lots of >animals and coconuts. > >wiki's article also makes it clear that they are a lobbying >organization, and centered in washington dc: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Foundation > >here's a fun article about them: > >http://www.milkismilk.com/blog/2005/09/weston-a-price-citizens-for-health-et-al\ cranks-crackpots-and-thieves/ > >of course, we all know that soy is no " miracle food " ; these folks >reserve that claim for butter and duck fat: > >http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html > >anyway, they are an interesting bunch: so right about so many things >(no processed food, organic, etc) but so wrong about others ( " asians >don't really eat soy " , you should drink blood, cholesterol is good >for you, there is a vast global conspiracy brainwashing you into >eating tofu, etc...). > >enjoy, i hope, > >blake > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 How did these vampire extemists get so big? The Valley Vegan.............wpunx wrote: the weston folks are everywherei see em on the news constantly, and our local pacifica station has a show every week that is lock stock and barrel 100% under their sway...>Blake Wilson <mbw>Mar 16, 2007 8:57 PM> > soy alert!>>that got your attention?!>>hi, i'm blake, getting back into veganism after several years. i've >been lurking for a couple weeks. i saw the recent posts about the >dangers of soy. most, if not all, webpages and information about the >"dangers" of soy stem from a very small group of people who are >adherents of weston a. price, a dentist, who have founded a >"foundation" in his name:>>http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm>>despite their insistence on organic foods, pastured animals, >opposition to factory farming, whole grains and vegetables, minimal >processing, etc., they are die-hard meat, dairy and egg fanatics. i >know one personally. they believe that animals are there to be killed >and eaten, and that humans cannot be healthy without animal flesh. >they advocate drinking animal blood and eating organs. they also >believe that soy and soy products are enjoyed worldwide as a result >of a vast conspiracy by huge conglomerate soy manufacturers, who, >after making soybean oil, needed to find a use for the leftovers, >which they claim is...tofu and soy products!>>taking a look at the top google "soy alert" results, i get the >following pages among the top 10:>>http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html>http://www.ratical.org/ratville/soydangers.html>http://www.healthychild.com/soy-alert.htm>http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-29/39839.html>http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm>>all of these pages cite (you guessed it) the weston a. price >foundation and/or sally fallon and mary enig. fallon and enig are >(you guessed it) president and vice president, respectively, of...the >weston price foundation:>>http://www.westonaprice.org/board.html>>they believe that all of our dietary ills are the result of 1). >eating processed foods (well, okay...), and 2). not eating vast >amounts of meat and dairy products. they deny that fat and >cholesterol are leading contributors to disease. pay a visit to >their site to get an idea of where they are at, and then make the >connections between most, if not all, of the "soy will kill" disinfo >on the web. their guru, dentist price, made all kinds of bizarre >claims about health after he visited native people who had no tooth >diseases and were "happy native"-types thanks to....eating lots of >animals and coconuts.>>wiki's article also makes it clear that they are a lobbying >organization, and centered in washington dc:>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Foundation>>here's a fun article about them:>>http://www.milkismilk.com/blog/2005/09/weston-a-price-citizens-for-health-et-alcranks-crackpots-and-thieves/>>of course, we all know that soy is no "miracle food"; these folks >reserve that claim for butter and duck fat:>>http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html>>anyway, they are an interesting bunch: so right about so many things >(no processed food, organic, etc) but so wrong about others ("asians >don't really eat soy", you should drink blood, cholesterol is good >for you, there is a vast global conspiracy brainwashing you into >eating tofu, etc...).>>enjoy, i hope,>>blake>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 $$$$ and saying things people want to hear. how does anything get big? look at atkins.... the tobacco, oil, and fast food industries pump how much money into biased accounts and studies? peter VV Mar 19, 2007 4:21 PM Re: soy alert! How did these vampire extemists get so big? The Valley Vegan.............wpunx wrote: the weston folks are everywherei see em on the news constantly, and our local pacifica station has a show every week that is lock stock and barrel 100% under their sway... I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed. I feel, at this moment, more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless." Lincoln in a letter to Col. William F. Elkins on November 21, 1864 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 At 4:35 PM -0400 3/19/07, fraggle wrote: $$$$ and saying things people want to hear. how does anything get big? look at atkins.... the tobacco, oil, and fast food industries pump how much money into biased accounts and studies? i don't know about the money angle. although they are a " lobby " , they claim they don't get any money from the meat n dairy industry: http://www.westonaprice.org/funding.html i think they appeal to folks who, number one, love meat and a glass of milk who can't stand the idea of giving it up, and number two, somehow believe that that kind of diet is revolutionary and renegade. these people believe that there is a conspiracy (promulgated by the vegetable oil industry, aided by their cronies " the government " ) to get folks to eat less meat and dairy, if you can believe it...to their " credit " , they are anti-factory farming; they want the animal to live a nice life on the pasture before they eat it. there is also a strong cult of personality at work, based on dr. price, and other elements of cultism as well: What is occurring at the moment is a " natural selection of the wise. " Those who begin to make the right food choices have a chance of regaining their health and producing children for the next generation. But those who continue to eat processed foods--and who continue to believe the lowfat propaganda-- will die out. The Weston A. Price Foundation was set up to provide accurate information for those who are seekers of the truth. wow. that's a very " show us your papers " -type mentality, eh? (quote above is from this page: http://www.mirabai.com/articles/fallon/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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