Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly large quantities or that you are fat. Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is a little misguided. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods. Rich http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote: http://www.thechinastudy.com/ > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly > large quantities or that you are fat. > > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is > a little misguided. > > Jo > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/2007 6:43 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food. Jo - " Raptor1000 " <raptor1000 Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PM Re: High Fat? > Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods. > Rich > http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote: > http://www.thechinastudy.com/ > > > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is > > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly > > large quantities or that you are fat. > > > > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes > > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is > > a little misguided. > > > > Jo > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/2007 6:43 PM > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 *giggle* you don;t know me very well do yee? well David, exactly what problem do you have, without the condescending BS of course (tsk tsk, not very nice young man!) with my statement and we can have a nice lil ol discussion if yer not nice, you get no cookies! fraggle David Garner Jun 8, 2007 10:56 AM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I WANT MY COOKIES :(OKAY, DAVE BE NICE NOW :)I HAVE COOKIE NOW? :)I SORRY :)I WAS BAD :)I GOOD NOW :)fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: *giggle* you don;t know me very well do yee? well David, exactly what problem do you have, without the condescending BS of course (tsk tsk, not very nice young man!) with my statement and we can have a nice lil ol discussion if yer not nice, you get no cookies! fraggle David Garner Jun 8, 2007 10:56 AM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Whoa there David, Fraggle has a brain the size of a small planet, and dont get him started on his parents.........play nice being patronising isnt exactly scientific either is it? Is cold pressed flax oil the only oil that is good for you? what about other seed oils that have been cold pressed? I was lead to believe that cold pressed hemp seed oil was pretty good also? The Valley Vegan............David Garner <comfortablekind wrote: You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners.Hemp seed oil is not very healthy for you no.Every oil has been tested to see whether or not cancercells can exist in it. All oils cancer actually love and dovery well in, except one, that is Flax oil. It was tested coldpressed and not. Organic and not, and the best results wereobtained using organic cold pressed flax oil. That is why in the bar none most successful cancer therapiesin the world, it is the only oil allowed. Peter VV <swpgh01.t21 wrote: Whoa there David, Fraggle has a brain the size of a small planet, and dont get him started on his parents.........play nice being patronising isnt exactly scientific either is it? Is cold pressed flax oil the only oil that is good for you? what about other seed oils that have been cold pressed? I was lead to believe that cold pressed hemp seed oil was pretty good also? The Valley Vegan............David Garner <comfortablekind > wrote: You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Can you please be polite or refrain from saying anything at all. Jo - David Garner Friday, June 08, 2007 6:56 PM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 You assume you are the only person who reads research. I have been reading research for decades, and I suspect many others on this list have done the same. Your ideas are flawed and you seem to misunderstand the research you present. Jo - David Garner Friday, June 08, 2007 6:56 PM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 I am sorry that you have been reading the wrong research jo.too bad for you but you don't need to get all huffy, puffy about it.You know, the statement right before mine was pretty authoritarian.I was responding to it as it was. I get upset sometimes when I hear people that do not know what they are talking about spew out jargon that is untrue. What if I am right and you are wrong? What if you arethe sarcastic one? Could that be? Are you big enough to look at that?jo <jo.heartwork wrote: You assume you are the only person who reads research. I have been reading research for decades, and I suspect many others on this list have done the same. Your ideas are flawed and you seem to misunderstand the research you present. Jo - David Garner Friday, June 08, 2007 6:56 PM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007  Hi David I'm really rather confused - I've been asking repeatedly for scientific data, and all you've provided is stuff from Wikipedia and on-line (i.e. unreliable and unverifiable) sources. I haven't seen one paper in a peer reviewed journal, one piece of scientific data, or one genuine expert opinion which supports what you're saying. I think you're being unnecessarily rude, particularly when it is you that appears to be arguing from what you've read on some nutty internet page, and you don't seem to know the difference between that and genuine scientific research. BB Peter David Garner Jun 8, 2007 10:56 AM Re: High Fat? You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you'vegrown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic.I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you dofrom what you may have heard at the local potluck.fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... David Garner Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM Re: High Fat? The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat.There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any othersubgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qoutingknow absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutritionis more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I havebeen studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA.But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healingthe worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food.Jo-"Raptor1000" <raptor1000 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PMRe: High Fat?> Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods.> Rich> http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote:> http://www.thechinastudy.com/>> > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is> > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly> > large quantities or that you are fat.> >> > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes> > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is> > a little misguided.> >> > Jo> >> >> > -------------------------> >> > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release 6/4/20076:43 PM> >>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Hi David OK... my girlfriend is a biologist... here's what she says on the subject... (after the exasperated " what the hell " ???)... All cells are surrounded by a phospho-lipid bilayer (i.e. two layers of oil molecules), so that the only thing that can pass through is oil based particles. Therefore *all* cells will react the same in oil. Biologically speaking, cancer cells are no different to any other cells - they react to substances in exactly the same way. The difference is that they have a slightly different genetic code, and what you put them in, or subject them to is irrelevant to whether they are cancerous or not. BB Peter > FROM: comfortablekind > DATE: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) > SUBJECT: Re: High Fat? > > Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. Hemp seed oil > is not very healthy for you no. Every oil has been tested to > see whether or not cancer cells can exist in it. All oils > cancer actually love and do very well in, except one, that > is Flax oil. It was tested cold pressed and not. Organic and > not, and the best results were obtained using organic cold > pressed flax oil. That is why in the bar none most > successful cancer therapies in the world, it is the only oil > allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Cancer cells are not the same as other cells, they very similar to embryoniccells where cell dedifferentiation occurs except that cancer cells are not supplied with nerves and therefore lack nervous regulation. They are then quite biologicallydifferent, as is how they react in various substrates. How rude is it to just bark outinnacurrate information regarding biological information or to call another person rudeas you did me? I admit that although mostly I am a caring person, that I do get frustratedat times regarding health and I should not. I apologize, it's just that millions of people are dying out there simply because no one wants to look at the truth, and every time someone tries to tell them the truth, they wind up dead for it. Oh, heck with it. I'm leaving this site and un-registering from it.metalscarab <metalscarab wrote: Hi DavidOK... my girlfriend is a biologist... here's what she says on the subject...(after the exasperated "what the hell"???)... All cells are surrounded by aphospho-lipid bilayer (i.e. two layers of oil molecules), so that the onlything that can pass through is oil based particles. Therefore *all* cellswill react the same in oil. Biologically speaking, cancer cells are nodifferent to any other cells - they react to substances in exactly the sameway. The difference is that they have a slightly different genetic code, andwhat you put them in, or subject them to is irrelevant to whether they arecancerous or not.BBPeter> FROM: comfortablekind > DATE: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT)> SUBJECT: Re: High Fat?>> Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. Hemp seed oil> is not very healthy for you no. Every oil has been tested to> see whether or not cancer cells can exist in it. All oils> cancer actually love and do very well in, except one, that> is Flax oil. It was tested cold pressed and not. Organic and> not, and the best results were obtained using organic cold> pressed flax oil. That is why in the bar none most> successful cancer therapies in the world, it is the only oil> allowed. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Testing cells outside the body doesn't prove how they work inside the body. Jo , David Garner <comfortablekind wrote: > > Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. > Hemp seed oil is not very healthy for you no. > Every oil has been tested to see whether or not cancer > cells can exist in it. All oils cancer actually love and do > very well in, except one, that is Flax oil. It was tested cold > pressed and not. Organic and not, and the best results were > obtained using organic cold pressed flax oil. > That is why in the bar none most successful cancer therapies > in the world, it is the only oil allowed. > > Peter VV <swpgh01.t21 wrote: Whoa there David, Fraggle has a brain the size of a small planet, and dont get him started on his parents.........play nice being patronising isnt exactly scientific either is it? > Is cold pressed flax oil the only oil that is good for you? what about other seed oils that have been cold pressed? I was lead to believe that cold pressed hemp seed oil was pretty good also? > > The Valley Vegan............ > > David Garner <comfortablekind wrote: > You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you've > grown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic. > I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you do > from what you may have heard at the local potluck. > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion > but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues > we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble > and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet > we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems > it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... > > > > > David Garner > Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM > > Re: High Fat? > > The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat. > There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats > except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any other > subgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qouting > know absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutrition > is more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I have > been studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that > without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA. > But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healing > the worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they > keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. > > jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food. > > Jo > > - > " Raptor1000 " <raptor1000 > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PM > Re: High Fat? > > > Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods. > > Rich > > http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote: > > http://www.thechinastudy.com/ > > > > > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is > > > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly > > > large quantities or that you are fat. > > > > > > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes > > > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is > > > a little misguided. > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 > 6:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 David That is exactly how other people feel. You may know or feel you know what you are talking about, but you do not express yourself in a way that suggests this is the case. Jo , David Garner <comfortablekind wrote: > > I am sorry that you have been reading the wrong research jo. > too bad for you but you don't need to get all huffy, puffy about it. > You know, the statement right before mine was pretty authoritarian. > I was responding to it as it was. I get upset sometimes when I hear > people that do not know what they are talking about spew out jargon > that is untrue. What if I am right and you are wrong? What if you are > the sarcastic one? Could that be? Are you big enough to look at that? > > jo <jo.heartwork wrote: You assume you are the only person who reads research. I have been reading research for decades, and I suspect many others on this list have done the same. > > Your ideas are flawed and you seem to misunderstand the research you present. > > Jo > - > David Garner > > Friday, June 08, 2007 6:56 PM > Re: High Fat? > > > You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but rather from what you've > grown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the topic. > I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just post like you do > from what you may have heard at the local potluck. > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: sorry..i'm late to this discussion > but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues > we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be in trouble > and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt diet, not a low salt diet > we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems > it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the planet....thats a processing problem.... > > > > > David Garner > Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM > > Re: High Fat? > > The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells live well in fat. > There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any oils or fats > except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer than any other > subgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people that do the qouting > know absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they know about nutrition > is more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based on research. I have > been studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I have discovered is that > without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA. > But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest documented succes rates healing > the worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% success rate and they > keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a salt free diet with no processed foods. > > jo <jo.heartwork wrote: Once again, they have a problem with too much fatty food. > > Jo > > - > " Raptor1000 " <raptor1000 > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PM > Re: High Fat? > > > Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods. > > Rich > > http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote: > > http://www.thechinastudy.com/ > > > > > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts etc. is > > > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in overly > > > large quantities or that you are fat. > > > > > > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously includes > > > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue otherwise is > > > a little misguided. > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 > 6:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Good point, outside of the lab in real life if one reads the book, " A Cancer Therapy, Results of Fifty Cases " , by Max Gerson M.D. one wil see that when fats were allowed in the diets of cancer patients they died. When the fata were taken away, people lived. It was simple math. Max is our friend that went before members of congress and on national radio with the documented results of 50 terminal cancer patients that were sent home to die and were cured of cancer on his therapy. Today, since he was murdered shortly after his presentation, his daughter Charlotte that has continued his work, is the spokesperson for the Gerson Therapy that has a success rate of over 70% which is mega-fold higher than any other therapy in the world. I own all of the books except the new one and have read them all cover to cover. They all say the same thing. That salt and fat are killers. Except flax oil, as I stated in me last post, I could have an IQ. of 25 since I am not the famed physician that Dr.Gerson was, and correspondingly, I make no claims as to what is the best way to eat as though I have invented the way. For I only convey information from the leading cancer therapy in the world and I mean no offence in doing so. I am open to suggestions as to my wording as it is clearly my weakness Jo. Dave , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > Testing cells outside the body doesn't prove how they work inside the > body. > > Jo > > , David Garner <comfortablekind@> > wrote: > > > > Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. > > Hemp seed oil is not very healthy for you no. > > Every oil has been tested to see whether or not cancer > > cells can exist in it. All oils cancer actually love and do > > very well in, except one, that is Flax oil. It was tested cold > > pressed and not. Organic and not, and the best results were > > obtained using organic cold pressed flax oil. > > That is why in the bar none most successful cancer therapies > > in the world, it is the only oil allowed. > > > > Peter VV <swpgh01.t21@> wrote: Whoa there David, > Fraggle has a brain the size of a small planet, and dont get him > started on his parents.........play nice being patronising isnt > exactly scientific either is it? > > Is cold pressed flax oil the only oil that is good for you? what > about other seed oils that have been cold pressed? I was lead to > believe that cold pressed hemp seed oil was pretty good also? > > > > The Valley Vegan............ > > > > David Garner <comfortablekind@> wrote: > > You obviously are not speaking from any scientific basis but > rather from what you've > > grown up with mom and dad saying or heard from laypersons on the > topic. > > I suggest you read scientific data the way I have rather than just > post like you do > > from what you may have heard at the local potluck. > > > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx@> wrote: sorry..i'm late to this > discussion > > but..i think we are tossing terms around and clouding the issues > > we don't need animal fat to survive, but without any fat, we'd be > in trouble > > and, salt is even more important..i think you mean a low salt > diet, not a low salt diet > > we couldn't survive without salt...our systems would just > collapse, our blood is saltier then the ocean....its an important > electrolyte and we need it for a host of systems > > it jsut doesn't need to be added t oevery freakin food on the > planet....thats a processing problem.... > > > > > > > > > > David Garner > > Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM > > > > Re: High Fat? > > > > The problem wit hall fats except one is that cancer cells > live well in fat. > > There are millions of people across the planet that never eat any > oils or fats > > except what is in the vegetables that they eat. They live longer > than any other > > subgroup. The trouble with nutritional quotes is that most people > that do the qouting > > know absolutely nothing about science, and what they think they > know about nutrition > > is more of something that they've heard somewhere instead of based > on research. I have > > been studying nutrition non-stop for over over 13 years and what I > have discovered is that > > without a doubt, fats are bad for you except, cold pressed organic > flax oil. Cancer cells thrive in any fats or oils except flax. I > think that it's great if you want to follow the FDA. > > But I listen to the serious healers with the bay far highest > documented succes rates healing > > the worst diagnosed terminal cancer patients out there with a 70% > success rate and they > > keep their patients far away from fats and oil. They also live on a > salt free diet with no processed foods. > > > > jo <jo.heartwork@> wrote: Once again, they have a problem > with too much fatty food. > > > > Jo > > > > - > > " Raptor1000 " <raptor1000@> > > > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:56 PM > > Re: High Fat? > > > > > Here are two more Doctors that also have a problem with fat foods. > > > Rich > > > http://www.heartattackproof.com/heartwerk wrote: > > > http://www.thechinastudy.com/ > > > > > > > I think the whole argument being put against eating oils, nuts > etc. is > > > > based on the assumption that if you eat these you eat them in > overly > > > > large quantities or that you are fat. > > > > > > > > Obviously any diet should be balanced, and balanced obviously > includes > > > > healthy fats in the right proportions. I think to argue > otherwise is > > > > a little misguided. > > > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: > 6/4/2007 > > 6:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Hi David I'm confused - what qualifications do you have in biology? I somehow think that a person who studies biology is not going to "bark out innacurate information" as you put it, but does actually know what they are talking about. You seem to be quite good at barking out innacurate information, largely based on stuff you've read on Wikipedia. If you write out what you're trying to say in proper biological terms (rather than the innacurate terms you've used below), then I'm sure my girlfriend will be very happy to explain where you've misunderstood. She has said that she would be delighted if you would point her in the direction of the scientific research you imply exists that re-writes everything known about bio-chemistry. BB Peter - David Garner Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:28 PM Re: Re: High Fat? Cancer cells are not the same as other cells, they very similar to embryoniccells where cell dedifferentiation occurs except that cancer cells are not supplied with nerves and therefore lack nervous regulation. They are then quite biologicallydifferent, as is how they react in various substrates. How rude is it to just bark outinnacurrate information regarding biological information or to call another person rudeas you did me? I admit that although mostly I am a caring person, that I do get frustratedat times regarding health and I should not. I apologize, it's just that millions of people are dying out there simply because no one wants to look at the truth, and every time someone tries to tell them the truth, they wind up dead for it. Oh, heck with it. I'm leaving this site and un-registering from it.metalscarab <metalscarab wrote: Hi DavidOK... my girlfriend is a biologist... here's what she says on the subject...(after the exasperated "what the hell"???)... All cells are surrounded by aphospho-lipid bilayer (i.e. two layers of oil molecules), so that the onlything that can pass through is oil based particles. Therefore *all* cellswill react the same in oil. Biologically speaking, cancer cells are nodifferent to any other cells - they react to substances in exactly the sameway. The difference is that they have a slightly different genetic code, andwhat you put them in, or subject them to is irrelevant to whether they arecancerous or not.BBPeter> FROM: comfortablekind > DATE: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT)> SUBJECT: Re: High Fat?>> Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. Hemp seed oil> is not very healthy for you no. Every oil has been tested to> see whether or not cancer cells can exist in it. All oils> cancer actually love and do very well in, except one, that> is Flax oil. It was tested cold pressed and not. Organic and> not, and the best results were obtained using organic cold> pressed flax oil. That is why in the bar none most> successful cancer therapies in the world, it is the only oil> allowed. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Peter is too busy this week to be moderating but he may answer after that. In the meantime I would point out that you are once again being rude. Why is information from one source 'barking out' when information from you is 'correct and informed'? The fact is that what happens when putting a cell in fat in a petri dish will most likely be very different to what happens to a cell in a body when fat is consumed. I don't doubt that cutting out fat helps people who are very ill with cancer, and that those people became ill in part through eating MUCH TOO MUCH fat. They would be just as likely to get cancer or some other diseases if they tried to eliminate all fats from their diet when they were healthy to start with. Jo - David Garner Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:28 PM Re: Re: High Fat? Cancer cells are not the same as other cells, they very similar to embryoniccells where cell dedifferentiation occurs except that cancer cells are not supplied with nerves and therefore lack nervous regulation. They are then quite biologicallydifferent, as is how they react in various substrates. How rude is it to just bark outinnacurrate information regarding biological information or to call another person rudeas you did me? I admit that although mostly I am a caring person, that I do get frustratedat times regarding health and I should not. I apologize, it's just that millions of people are dying out there simply because no one wants to look at the truth, and every time someone tries to tell them the truth, they wind up dead for it. Oh, heck with it. I'm leaving this site and un-registering from it.metalscarab <metalscarab wrote: Hi DavidOK... my girlfriend is a biologist... here's what she says on the subject...(after the exasperated "what the hell"???)... All cells are surrounded by aphospho-lipid bilayer (i.e. two layers of oil molecules), so that the onlything that can pass through is oil based particles. Therefore *all* cellswill react the same in oil. Biologically speaking, cancer cells are nodifferent to any other cells - they react to substances in exactly the sameway. The difference is that they have a slightly different genetic code, andwhat you put them in, or subject them to is irrelevant to whether they arecancerous or not.BBPeter> FROM: comfortablekind > DATE: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT)> SUBJECT: Re: High Fat?>> Sorry and I agree, no room for poor manners. Hemp seed oil> is not very healthy for you no. Every oil has been tested to> see whether or not cancer cells can exist in it. All oils> cancer actually love and do very well in, except one, that> is Flax oil. It was tested cold pressed and not. Organic and> not, and the best results were obtained using organic cold> pressed flax oil. That is why in the bar none most> successful cancer therapies in the world, it is the only oil> allowed. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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