Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

July 23, 2007

Ah, well, let the men be upset then. Yes, I have seen the men

preening themselves as well. It’s all a waste of energy and money just to

be “attractive.” True beauty comes from the inside and not the

outer appearance. Mother Teresa was beautiful. Gandhi had that inner beauty. Hair

gels, baggy shorts and cutsie goatees are just as clownish.

I live near the Wild Animal Park in San Diego county. Often I

will walk a 5 mile hike through that park and I can count the unpainted,

undyed, unsexed up females on one hand. Logically, it’s a small sample

but one that covers not only the US but foreign visitors as well. Young men are

often as you say but middle-aged and above are rarely “pimped up.”

Quite a few of the female keepers at the park choose not to wear

makeup. Their commitment to caring for the animals shows through as inner

beauty that no hairdo or makeup can equal.

PETA is doing good work. If we must get the attention of “idiots”

[your word] then we must attract them with their clowns. Lives are hanging in

the balance and if sex can save lives so be it.

As for me I am just one outspoken, rude, ugly committed son of a

bi___! Let’s quit quibbling over minor details and get something done!

On Behalf Of metalscarab

Monday, July 23, 2007 2:54 AM

Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up

for National Hot Dog Day

Hi Don

Your comment will also upset men! I find it

offensive, as the women in my life don't behave the way that you describe -

there is, of course, a proportion of women that do, but then there are also a

proportion of men who do body building, cover themselves in smells that they

think women will like, and take a long time doing their hair, in order to

attract women. So what - some people are idiots - does that mean we should

abuse everyone who has something in common with those idiots?

I happen to have the same genitalia as you,

but I'd hate to think that I'd be classified as sexist and racist (since you

also " can't talk to Americans " ) just because of that unfortunate

fact.

BB

Peter

-

Don

Scott

Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:33 AM

RE: PETA and Playboy

Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

Sex and violence

drive most advertising campaigns. My next statement will probably upset the

female crowd but here goes. As long as women paint themselves up like clowns to

attract the opposite sex I have no problem with this kind of advertizing. When

the majority of women stop dying their hair (two two-tone striped skunk look is

now popular) and dressing up as if they were trying to get someone to buy them

dinner then I will condemn sexist ads. Until then, we must do whatever is

needed to try and stop the slaughter. I support PETA and wish females would

stop wasting money on boob jobs, makeup, perfume and the accoutrements of

sexual attraction and SPEND THEIR MONEY ON SAVING LIVES!

Most females I

know just don’t realize that men would be attracted to them if they wore

khaki’s and combat boots. We don’t need to be sold. Ask any guy

leaving a bar at 2PM and he will tell you the same.

On Behalf Of Peter VV

Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:24 PM

Re: PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National

Hot Dog Day

I seriously doubt if campaigns like this turn people vegan,

but probably would get their attention more than normal people......its

appealing to the base instincts in men isnt it?

Now if they were vegan as well as models then that would be

different, as they would be able to show that there are vegan models out there,

but I doubt that they were........

all I ever find in my salads is insects.............

The Valley Vegan...........

flower child <zurumato wrote:

that is sexist.

If they are going to use this approach, I don't understand why they

can't use real women. Not cartoon-like ones with plastic on their

chest. The important question would be however, if campaigns like this

actually turn people vegan?

,

Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> I admit it, I am a sexist pig hence the following article/photo......

>

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8206629@N05/847091608

>

> What were two Playboy playmates—wearing nothing but

strategically-placed lettuce leaves—doing earlier today outside the

House of Representatives' Rayburn building? Besides handing out free

veggie dogs with reps from PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of

Animals), the self-proclaimed " Lettuce Ladies " were on the Hill to

counter National Hot Dog Day. Inside Rayburn, the American Meat

Institute celebrated the occasion with assorted Major League baseball

sluggers and congressmen.

>

Peter H

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July 23, 2007

Hi Don

My issue with PETA's method of advertising is this: they are campaigning for equal respect for all living creatures, something which I whole-heartedly agree with. However, I struggle to see how their message of equal respect can be taken seriously when they do not show equal respect in their advertising campaigns. What they are effectively saying is that, to them, human women are less worthy of respect than any other living being.

There are many evils in our world - I do what little I can to tackle as many of those as I can, and I don't to the view that it is acceptable to support one form of evil in order to combat another. The ends never justifies the means!

BB

Peter

-

Don Scott

Monday, July 23, 2007 4:39 PM

RE: Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

Ah, well, let the men be upset then. Yes, I have seen the men preening themselves as well. It’s all a waste of energy and money just to be “attractive.” True beauty comes from the inside and not the outer appearance. Mother Teresa was beautiful. Gandhi had that inner beauty. Hair gels, baggy shorts and cutsie goatees are just as clownish.

I live near the Wild Animal Park in San Diego county. Often I will walk a 5 mile hike through that park and I can count the unpainted, undyed, unsexed up females on one hand. Logically, it’s a small sample but one that covers not only the US but foreign visitors as well. Young men are often as you say but middle-aged and above are rarely “pimped up.”

Quite a few of the female keepers at the park choose not to wear makeup. Their commitment to caring for the animals shows through as inner beauty that no hairdo or makeup can equal.

PETA is doing good work. If we must get the attention of “idiots” [your word] then we must attract them with their clowns. Lives are hanging in the balance and if sex can save lives so be it.

As for me I am just one outspoken, rude, ugly committed son of a bi___! Let’s quit quibbling over minor details and get something done!

On Behalf Of metalscarabMonday, July 23, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

Hi Don

Your comment will also upset men! I find it offensive, as the women in my life don't behave the way that you describe - there is, of course, a proportion of women that do, but then there are also a proportion of men who do body building, cover themselves in smells that they think women will like, and take a long time doing their hair, in order to attract women. So what - some people are idiots - does that mean we should abuse everyone who has something in common with those idiots?

I happen to have the same genitalia as you, but I'd hate to think that I'd be classified as sexist and racist (since you also "can't talk to Americans") just because of that unfortunate fact.

BB

Peter

-

Don Scott

Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:33 AM

RE: PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

Sex and violence drive most advertising campaigns. My next statement will probably upset the female crowd but here goes. As long as women paint themselves up like clowns to attract the opposite sex I have no problem with this kind of advertizing. When the majority of women stop dying their hair (two two-tone striped skunk look is now popular) and dressing up as if they were trying to get someone to buy them dinner then I will condemn sexist ads. Until then, we must do whatever is needed to try and stop the slaughter. I support PETA and wish females would stop wasting money on boob jobs, makeup, perfume and the accoutrements of sexual attraction and SPEND THEIR MONEY ON SAVING LIVES!

Most females I know just don’t realize that men would be attracted to them if they wore khaki’s and combat boots. We don’t need to be sold. Ask any guy leaving a bar at 2PM and he will tell you the same.

On Behalf Of Peter VVSaturday, July 21, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

I seriously doubt if campaigns like this turn people vegan, but probably would get their attention more than normal people......its appealing to the base instincts in men isnt it?

Now if they were vegan as well as models then that would be different, as they would be able to show that there are vegan models out there, but I doubt that they were........

all I ever find in my salads is insects.............

The Valley Vegan...........flower child <zurumato wrote:

that is sexist. If they are going to use this approach, I don't understand why theycan't use real women. Not cartoon-like ones with plastic on theirchest. The important question would be however, if campaigns like thisactually turn people vegan? , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:>> I admit it, I am a sexist pig hence the following article/photo......> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8206629@N05/847091608> > What were two Playboy playmates—wearing nothing butstrategically-placed lettuce leaves—doing earlier today outside theHouse of Representatives' Rayburn building? Besides handing out freeveggie dogs with reps from PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment ofAnimals), the self-proclaimed "Lettuce Ladies" were on the Hill tocounter National Hot Dog Day. Inside Rayburn, the American MeatInstitute celebrated the occasion with assorted Major League baseballsluggers and congressmen.> >

Peter H

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July 23, 2007

The ends do sometimes justify the means. That is what compromise

is all about. I take it then that you are a totalitarian? It is either black or

white with no grays in between for you?

Since women can speak for themselves and animals can’t, I

could not disagree with you more. When chickens can get TV spots to ask us to

stop killing them then I will change my mind. Women can speak. Women can fight

against equality. Therein lays the fallacious nature of your argument.

You are comparing murder to sex.

It must be difficult for you. You have so many battles to fight

and they are all equally important. How do you choose what to do? Draw straws?

Don

On Behalf Of metalscarab

Monday, July 23, 2007 1:00 PM

Re: Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team

up for National Hot Dog Day

Hi Don

My issue with PETA's method of advertising is

this: they are campaigning for equal respect for all living creatures,

something which I whole-heartedly agree with. However, I struggle to see how

their message of equal respect can be taken seriously when they do not show

equal respect in their advertising campaigns. What they are effectively saying

is that, to them, human women are less worthy of respect than any other living

being.

There are many evils in our world - I do what

little I can to tackle as many of those as I can, and I don't to the

view that it is acceptable to support one form of evil in order to combat

another. The ends never justifies the means!

BB

Peter

-

Don

Scott

Monday, July 23, 2007 4:39 PM

RE: Re:/metalscarab PETA

and Playboy Playmates Team up for National Hot Dog Day

Ah, well, let

the men be upset then. Yes, I have seen the men preening themselves as well.

It’s all a waste of energy and money just to be “attractive.”

True beauty comes from the inside and not the outer appearance. Mother Teresa

was beautiful. Gandhi had that inner beauty. Hair gels, baggy shorts and cutsie

goatees are just as clownish.

I live near the

Wild Animal Park in San Diego county. Often I will walk a 5 mile hike through

that park and I can count the unpainted, undyed, unsexed up females on one

hand. Logically, it’s a small sample but one that covers not only the US

but foreign visitors as well. Young men are often as you say but middle-aged

and above are rarely “pimped up.”

Quite a few of

the female keepers at the park choose not to wear makeup. Their commitment to

caring for the animals shows through as inner beauty that no hairdo or makeup

can equal.

PETA is doing

good work. If we must get the attention of “idiots” [your word]

then we must attract them with their clowns. Lives are hanging in the balance

and if sex can save lives so be it.

As for me I am

just one outspoken, rude, ugly committed son of a bi___! Let’s quit

quibbling over minor details and get something done!

On Behalf Of metalscarab

Monday, July 23, 2007 2:54 AM

Re:/metalscarab PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up

for National Hot Dog Day

Hi Don

Your comment will also upset

men! I find it offensive, as the women in my life don't behave the way that you

describe - there is, of course, a proportion of women that do, but then there

are also a proportion of men who do body building, cover themselves in smells

that they think women will like, and take a long time doing their hair, in

order to attract women. So what - some people are idiots - does that mean we

should abuse everyone who has something in common with those idiots?

I happen to have the same

genitalia as you, but I'd hate to think that I'd be classified as sexist and

racist (since you also " can't talk to Americans " ) just because of

that unfortunate fact.

BB

Peter

-

Don Scott

Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:33 AM

RE: PETA and Playboy Playmates Team up