Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 So how does everyone avoid the garbage in public water (fluoride, chlorine, etc)? I was recently looking for a decent bottled water company, but they all seem to add their own cocktail of stuff to the bottled water. Also, none of the filters I have seen will get rid of fluoride.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Chlorine will volatilize on its own if you leave the water in an uncovered container. A recent news item claimed that tap water in the US is safer and undergoes more tests than any bottled water, and in addition doesn't add to the mountains of plastic bottles. One compromise is to find someplace that sells filtered water (you bring your own containers) -- it's tap water that goes through an extra set of filters, usually reverse osmosis. Some people around here have become sensitive to the chloramine that has been replacing chlorine in water-treatment plants all over. Chloramine does not volatilize, though it can be treated to be safe for fish tanks. At 12:40 PM -0700 7/25/07, Scott Macri wrote: So how does everyone avoid the garbage in public water (fluoride, chlorine, etc)? I was recently looking for a decent bottled water company, but they all seem to add their own cocktail of stuff to the bottled water. Also, none of the filters I have seen will get rid of fluoride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007  I've been struggling with this question as well, Scott. We've got chloramine here in Berkeley, a cocktail of ammonia and chlorine combined. It kills fish. Here's a website that totally refutes any fluoride benefits, yet it's still added to our water! The website includes some history of fluoridation, and debates reverse osmosis and carbon block, for filtering minerals vs. fluoride. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/water-filtration-systems.htm Another site that discusses several types of fluoride filtration systems: http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm This one selling a fluoride filter: http://www.crystalquest.com/Fluoridefilters.htm My preference is to drink the water the way it comes out of the earth, not to drink city-treated water that's filtered the treatment out. So, for over a year, I've been getting bottled spring water delivered to my door. I don't feel I can justify the greenhouse gas emissions of the truck that delivers my water, so we'll be switching over to the 7-stage water filter my new housemate has. Lucky for us, the new housemate comes with a water filter! And to think I almost bought one! All that being said, I haven't used a filter for years. There are so many. If you google "water filter fluoride" you'll find the filters, articles, etc... Marcy - Scott Macri Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:40 PM help with poison in water So how does everyone avoid the garbage in public water (fluoride, chlorine, etc)? I was recently looking for a decent bottled water company, but they all seem to add their own cocktail of stuff to the bottled water. Also, none of the filters I have seen will get rid of fluoride.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 After all the reading I have done, I decided to go with a counter top distiller. I read up on the so called bottled spring water........ It seems every vendor has their own cocktail of junk they put into thewater they sell. Their marketing ads would have you think the water is straight from the mountain spring. However, it goes through processing, and has garbage added just like everything else. I'll be staying away from that as well.Fluorine is horrible stuff and should be avoided at all costs.Thanks for the links.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- imgreen03 wrote:"Marcy" <imgreen03Re: help with poison in waterWed, 25 Jul 2007 16:11:14 -0700I've been struggling with this question as well, Scott. We've got chloramine here in Berkeley, a cocktail of ammonia and chlorine combined. It kills fish. Here's a website that totally refutes any fluoride benefits, yet it's still added to our water! The website includes some history of fluoridation, and debates reverse osmosis and carbon block, for filtering minerals vs. fluoride. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/water-filtration-systems.htmAnother site that discusses several types of fluoride filtration systems:http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm This one selling a fluoride filter: http://www.crystalquest.com/Fluoridefilters.htm My preference is to drink the water the way it comes out of the earth, not to drink city-treated water that's filtered the treatment out. So, for over a year, I've been getting bottled spring water delivered to my door. I don't feel I can justify the greenhouse gas emissions of the truck that delivers my water, so we'll be switching over to the 7-stage water filter my new housemate has. Lucky for us, the new housemate comes with a water filter! And to think I almost bought one! All that being said, I haven't used a filter for years. There are so many.If you google "water filter fluoride" you'll find the filters, articles, etc... Marcy - Scott Macri Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:40 PM help with poison in waterSo how does everyone avoid the garbage in public water (fluoride, chlorine, etc)? I was recently looking for a decent bottled water company, but they all seem to add their own cocktail of stuff to the bottled water. Also, none of the filters I have seen will get rid of fluoride.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I thought Brita water filters removed most of the flouride - there are various types of filters. Are you not able to get natural spring water? Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I have not seen a single company that sells spring water without something added to it. If you call any of the companies they will tell you it goes through processing and stuff is added. Spring water is not different than anything else on the market. They sell it to make a profit. So as a result they add stuff to improve the flavor, etc....--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterThu, 26 Jul 2007 06:48:12 -0000 I thought Brita water filters removed most of the flouride - there are various types of filters. Are you not able to get natural spring water? Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I'm assuming you live in America. In the UK if it says 'spring water' it cannot have additives unless it states what they are. All the spring waters I have purchased are pure spring waters. The bottle gives a composition of the mineral content - is that what is confusing you? Jo Re: Re: help with poison in water I have not seen a single company that sells spring water without something added to it. If you call any of the companies they will tell you it goes through processing and stuff is added. Spring water is not different than anything else on the market. They sell it to make a profit. So as a result they add stuff to improve the flavor, etc.... -- Scott Don't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Yes, I live in America. The label isn't confusing me. I just don't want to buy anything with additives, and I consider anything on the label to be an additive because it was put in by a human.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterThu, 26 Jul 2007 15:18:30 -0000 I'm assuming you live in America. In the UK if it says 'spring water' it cannot have additives unless it states what they are. All the spring waters I have purchased are pure spring waters. The bottle gives a composition of the mineral content - is that what is confusing you? Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Another issue I have is that people, and companies, cannot be trusted to do their job. There are too many crooks, especially in the business world. Take a look at all the food products on the market, which are supposed to be healthy, but are just loads of garbage. Their marketing teams do wonders. There are too many Enron's in this world. They are only interested in their pocket book, and don't give a damn about the consumers.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterThu, 26 Jul 2007 15:18:30 -0000 I'm assuming you live in America. In the UK if it says 'spring water' it cannot have additives unless it states what they are. All the spring waters I have purchased are pure spring waters. The bottle gives a composition of the mineral content - is that what is confusing you? Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I think you do misunderstand. In the UK there are many bottled spring waters with nothing added. The list of minerals is just an analysis of what is in the natural water. These minerals are in the water because the water filters through rocks and picks them up. Can you not buy this in America? Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Basic ingredients are healthy. If you do your own cooking you can't go far wrong with eating reasonably healthily. Jo Re: Re: help with poison in water Another issue I have is that people, and companies, cannot be trusted to do their job. There are too many crooks, especially in the business world. Take a look at all the food products on the market, which are supposed to be healthy, but are just loads of garbage. Their marketing teams do wonders. There are too many Enron's in this world. They are only interested in their pocket book, and don't give a damn about the consumers. -- Scott Don't under estimate the wisdom of nature. --- jo.heartwork wrote: " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork Re: help with poison in water Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:18:30 -0000 I'm assuming you live in America. In the UK if it says 'spring water' it cannot have additives unless it states what they are. All the spring waters I have purchased are pure spring waters. The bottle gives a composition of the mineral content - is that what is confusing you? Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi Jo Admittedly I only spent a couple of weeks in the US - but I struggled to find any bottled water that was not made by either Nestle or Coca Cola, and had bucket loads of weird stuff (mostly fluoride) added. I don't know how representative this experience is, and people who live in the US will undoubtedly know the places in their local areas that I didn't!!! BB Peter - " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork Friday, July 27, 2007 7:35 AM Re: help with poison in water > I think you do misunderstand. > > In the UK there are many bottled spring waters with nothing added. > The list of minerals is just an analysis of what is in the natural > water. These minerals are in the water because the water filters > through rocks and picks them up. > > Can you not buy this in America? > > Jo > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi Peter I thought that might be the case from the discussion. It might be worth anyone in the States fitting a reverse osmosis filter to their drinking water supply. Jo , " metalscarab " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Jo > > Admittedly I only spent a couple of weeks in the US - but I struggled to > find any bottled water that was not made by either Nestle or Coca Cola, and > had bucket loads of weird stuff (mostly fluoride) added. I don't know how > representative this experience is, and people who live in the US will > undoubtedly know the places in their local areas that I didn't!!! > > BB > Peter > > - > " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork > > Friday, July 27, 2007 7:35 AM > Re: help with poison in water > > > > I think you do misunderstand. > > > > In the UK there are many bottled spring waters with nothing added. > > The list of minerals is just an analysis of what is in the natural > > water. These minerals are in the water because the water filters > > through rocks and picks them up. > > > > Can you not buy this in America? > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 That's why I decided to go with a distiller, with a glass fill container. The water sucks, and the food is even worse, here in the US. Why else would we be considered the fattest country in the world? :)I am quite amused now when I see people munching on some unhealthy cooked food. I think I have turned into a food snob......lol --ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterFri, 27 Jul 2007 12:30:00 -0000 Hi Peter I thought that might be the case from the discussion. It might be worth anyone in the States fitting a reverse osmosis filter to their drinking water supply. Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ahhh, I did not realize that.I expect that there are companies in America you can get them from, but any of the ones I checked out have fluoride and junk in them. There are a couple companies someone at work told me about and I am going to check them out.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterFri, 27 Jul 2007 06:35:41 -0000 I think you do misunderstand. In the UK there are many bottled spring waters with nothing added. The list of minerals is just an analysis of what is in the natural water. These minerals are in the water because the water filters through rocks and picks them up. Can you not buy this in America? Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ahhh, I did not realize that. I expect that there are companies in America you can get them from, but any of the ones I checked out have fluoride and junk in them. There are a couple companies someone at work told me about and I am going to check them out.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterFri, 27 Jul 2007 06:35:41 -0000 I think you do misunderstand. In the UK there are many bottled spring waters with nothing added. The list of minerals is just an analysis of what is in the natural water. These minerals are in the water because the water filters through rocks and picks them up. Can you not buy this in America? Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I agree.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterFri, 27 Jul 2007 06:37:03 -0000 Basic ingredients are healthy. If you do your own cooking you can't go far wrong with eating reasonably healthily. Jo Re: Re: help with poison in water Another issue I have is that people, and companies, cannot be trusted to do their job. There are too many crooks, especially in the business world. Take a look at all the food products on the market, which are supposed to be healthy, but are just loads of garbage. Their marketing teams do wonders. There are too many Enron's in this world. They are only interested in their pocket book, and don't give a damn about the consumers. -- Scott Don't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 If you think all cooked food is unhealthy then I think you have become a food snob! Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Good luck. Jo Re: Re: help with poison in water Ahhh, I did not realize that. I expect that there are companies in America you can get them from, but any of the ones I checked out have fluoride and junk in them. There are a couple companies someone at work told me about and I am going to check them out. -- Scott Don't under estimate the wisdom of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 lol, perhaps I have.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterMon, 30 Jul 2007 06:34:19 -0000 If you think all cooked food is unhealthy then I think you have become a food snob! Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007  LOL - we can all do that from time to time. Jo - Scott Monday, July 30, 2007 4:52 PM Re: Re: help with poison in water lol, perhaps I have.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- jo.heartwork wrote:"heartwerk" <jo.heartwork Subject: Re: help with poison in waterMon, 30 Jul 2007 06:34:19 -0000 If you think all cooked food is unhealthy then I think you have become a food snob! Jo Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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