Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 In a zoo in California , a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs. Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weanling pigs. The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. Would they become cubs or pork chops? Take a look...you won't believe your eyes!! Now, please tell me one more time.......... why can't the rest of the world get along?Peter H Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 And we disparage animals by calling violent humans "animals". Marcy - Peter VV Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:01 PM Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? In a zoo in California , a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs. Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weanling pigs. The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. Would they become cubs or pork chops? Take a look...you won't believe your eyes!! Now, please tell me one more time.......... why can't the rest of the world get along? Peter H Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 nice, but only about half right: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.asp blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right: http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.asp blake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 The tiger would have eaten them if they had not been wrapped in dead tigers skins though. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:11 AM Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? And we disparage animals by calling violent humans "animals". Marcy - Peter VV Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:01 PM Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? In a zoo in California , a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs. Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weanling pigs. The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. Would they become cubs or pork chops? Take a look...you won't believe your eyes!! Now, please tell me one more time.......... why can't the rest of the world get along? Peter H Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Thanks Blake - that makes more sense. Jo - " sebsi23 " <mbw Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:10 AM Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? > nice, but only about half right: > > http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.asp > > blake > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007  What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 It's sad because the zoo is having babies nurse with the "wrong" kind of milk, for one. They're, in essence, trading parents. And all of this is for the entertainment of the public.Marcy <imgreen03 wrote:  What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007  It is sad because people are changing situations for their own ends - i.e. making money by exhibiting 'unusual' things. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:39 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I guess it's a glass-half-full vs. a glass-half-empty view. - Tracy H. Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:32 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? It's sad because the zoo is having babies nurse with the "wrong" kind of milk, for one. They're, in essence, trading parents. And all of this is for the entertainment of the public.Marcy <imgreen03 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:  What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007  In other words, the zoo is exploiting the animals. I don't like the idea of wild animals being held captive and put on display either. Curiously, I've heard animal advocates say zoos aren't all bad. I'm not sure what the final word on zoos should be, and I'm sure they stack up differently from each other. And the article doesn't make definitive statements about those particular photos of the tiger and piglets at the Sriracha Tiger Zoo. They may have been on display, but that's the case for all zoo animals. Given the circumstances, the tiger and piglets don't seem uncontent. And looking at the big picture, we all know that other animals face much worse conditions and lives. It may be "sad" but it may be the lesser of the sads. Just a thought. Marcy - jo Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:11 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?  It is sad because people are changing situations for their own ends - i.e. making money by exhibiting 'unusual' things. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:39 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I guess the sow who had her litter taken off her wouldnt see it that way? The Valley Vegan...........Marcy <imgreen03 wrote: I guess it's a glass-half-full vs. a glass-half-empty view. - Tracy H. Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:32 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? It's sad because the zoo is having babies nurse with the "wrong" kind of milk, for one. They're, in essence, trading parents. And all of this is for the entertainment of the public.Marcy <imgreen03 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:  What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007  Maybe they would all be happier with their own mums and children. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:29 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? In other words, the zoo is exploiting the animals. I don't like the idea of wild animals being held captive and put on display either. Curiously, I've heard animal advocates say zoos aren't all bad. I'm not sure what the final word on zoos should be, and I'm sure they stack up differently from each other. And the article doesn't make definitive statements about those particular photos of the tiger and piglets at the Sriracha Tiger Zoo. They may have been on display, but that's the case for all zoo animals. Given the circumstances, the tiger and piglets don't seem uncontent. And looking at the big picture, we all know that other animals face much worse conditions and lives. It may be "sad" but it may be the lesser of the sads. Just a thought. Marcy - jo Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:11 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?  It is sad because people are changing situations for their own ends - i.e. making money by exhibiting 'unusual' things. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:39 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007  Of course, you are right. - jo Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:07 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?  Maybe they would all be happier with their own mums and children. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:29 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? In other words, the zoo is exploiting the animals. I don't like the idea of wild animals being held captive and put on display either. Curiously, I've heard animal advocates say zoos aren't all bad. I'm not sure what the final word on zoos should be, and I'm sure they stack up differently from each other. And the article doesn't make definitive statements about those particular photos of the tiger and piglets at the Sriracha Tiger Zoo. They may have been on display, but that's the case for all zoo animals. Given the circumstances, the tiger and piglets don't seem uncontent. And looking at the big picture, we all know that other animals face much worse conditions and lives. It may be "sad" but it may be the lesser of the sads. Just a thought. Marcy - jo Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:11 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?  It is sad because people are changing situations for their own ends - i.e. making money by exhibiting 'unusual' things. Jo - Marcy Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:39 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 I can't imagine she would. - Peter VV Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:34 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? I guess the sow who had her litter taken off her wouldnt see it that way? The Valley Vegan...........Marcy <imgreen03 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: I guess it's a glass-half-full vs. a glass-half-empty view. - Tracy H. Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:32 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? It's sad because the zoo is having babies nurse with the "wrong" kind of milk, for one. They're, in essence, trading parents. And all of this is for the entertainment of the public.Marcy <imgreen03 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:  What is sad? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I don't understand why this is sad. Animals of different species forming alliances with each other, cohabitating, enjoying the warmth and companionship of each other is still the main story here. My boyfriend just told me about a documentary he saw in which a lioness in the wild was abandoned by her pride and adopted a baby gazelle. She was 7-days without food and ravenously hungry, but rather than eat the gazelle, she groomed the baby and otherwise mothered her. Here's the link for the story about the lioness and the gazelle. http://www.awf.org/content/headline/detail/1143 Sorry, we couldn't find a link to the documentary, but he saw it on PBS at some point. Marcy - Scott Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:44 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? That is truly sad.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- mbw wrote:"sebsi23" <mbw Subject: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:27 -0000 nice, but only about half right:http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/tigerpig.aspblake Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 [[That is truly sad. ]] Don't you understand they were trying to save the tiger's life? We can argue about the existence of zoos, period, but this was a compassionate and caring act, like taking a sick cat to the vet. Were they really supposed to just give up and let her die? And if they did, would you really be praising them for it? They were desperate and did the only thing they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I thought that was proved not to be the case. It was all done as a show. Jo - " Oom Yaaqub " <oomyaaqub Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:34 AM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? > [[That is truly sad. > ]] > > Don't you understand they were trying to save the tiger's life? We can argue > about the existence of zoos, period, but this was a compassionate and caring > act, like taking a sick cat to the vet. Were they really supposed to just > give up and let her die? And if they did, would you really be praising them > for it? They were desperate and did the only thing they could. > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 My complaint was to take the side of the sow that gave birth to the piglets, and demand to know why some human chose to play god and decide who they should live with. The Valley Vegan..............Oom Yaaqub <oomyaaqub wrote: [[That is truly sad.]]Don't you understand they were trying to save the tiger's life? We can argue about the existence of zoos, period, but this was a compassionate and caring act, like taking a sick cat to the vet. Were they really supposed to just give up and let her die? And if they did, would you really be praising them for it? They were desperate and did the only thing they could.Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I agree with you Peter. The poor sow had her babies taken away. Animals do miss their babies. When the neighbouring cows have their calves taken away they bellow for days. It is very distressing to hear :-( I also feel that it is a dangerous situation to put the piglets in. Jo - Peter VV Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:09 PM Re: Re: WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG? My complaint was to take the side of the sow that gave birth to the piglets, and demand to know why some human chose to play god and decide who they should live with. The Valley Vegan..............Oom Yaaqub <oomyaaqub wrote: [[That is truly sad.]]Don't you understand they were trying to save the tiger's life? We can argue about the existence of zoos, period, but this was a compassionate and caring act, like taking a sick cat to the vet. Were they really supposed to just give up and let her die? And if they did, would you really be praising them for it? They were desperate and did the only thing they could. Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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