Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat By Lindsey Croft» More from Lindsey Croft12:01 a.m. PT Aug 13, 2007 Standing behind the BriarPatch Co-op Community Market's meat counter, 28-year-old Marc Mongiardo appears to be an ordinary grocery store butcher — though his lifestyle is guided by a philosophy of excluding the use of animals for food, clothing or any other form of consumption.Mongiardo is a vegan."Being a vegan requires less energy to feed than it takes to feed someone who eats meat," Mongiardo said, eating his lunch of fresh garden greens. "It takes more resources to raise a cow versus growing beans and vegetables. On a global level, being a vegan helps conserve energy. On a personal level, I feel more energetic after not eating meat." Living according to his vegan views for the past five years, Mongiardo continues his work as a butcher in hopes of educating meat consumers about the benefits of consuming less meat and of eating naturally produced meat. "I know I live in a world where most people eat meat, but I feel that being a butcher for natural meat allows more options," Mongiardo said. "If everyone in the town ate natural meat, they'd be better off because there's no hormones, antibiotics or chemicals in natural meat."BriarPatch carries eggs from Country Rubes Farms in Grass Valley and Nevada County free range beef from Nevada City, as well as an assortment of other meats produced in Northern California. These local, naturally produced meats are healthier because the animals eat grass, creating leaner, less-fattening meat, Mongiardo said. "If I can at least educate people about the benefits of natural meat, I feel like I can actually have some influence on the whole animal situation. It's a small way of being active on the issue on a community level," he said. The former carnivore began with tentative experiments in living the vegan lifestyle, but the vegan philosophy has become his passion."I feel like the process of people eating meat is going to be present no matter what," Mongiardo said, slipping into his white butcher's apron. "By cutting meat and knowing what it is, it helps reinforce the reasons why I am a vegan." oooTo contact Staff Writer Lindsey Croft, e-mail lindseyc or call 477-4247. Forward this Article: To Email: Your Email: Discussion Post Your Comment Click to see all comments (2) Boy, talk about... a conflict of interest! Pay a bit more for the organic meat, it's worth it.I personally can not even eat pork anymore;too much stuff pumped into the pigs to make them grow better/faster. report this | replyby ranterator on Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:45:17 PDT a well-balanced viewpoint I admire Mr. Mongiardo for accepting the reality that most of us are meat eaters. His apparent lack of militancy and not trying force his viewpoint on others is refreshing and unexpected. report this | replyby MrConservative on Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:54:14 PDT Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 It is quite odd, but I don't think it is a joke. I don't know what is going on in his head. I guess he is just a vegan by diet.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.100% Raw Vegan--- swpgh01 wrote: Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for " health " reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's " what people want. " If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 but she said she was a vegan for health reasons. She was probably doing what she believed - serving people what they want while she adhered to a healthy diet. Some people are vegans for health reasons and are not at all interested in animals. Jo - yarrow Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:49 PM RE: Re: A meaty matter cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for "health" reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's "what people want." If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I just cant understand that, and yes that is my problem and one of my shortcomings, but vegan without thinking about the origin of the meat, the poor animals? I have heard veganism called a compassionate lifestyle, but veganism for just diet? sorry , but I see nothing compassionate about handling lumps of dead flesh.....what about vegan abatoir workers?...(just my opinion) The Valley Vegan................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: but she said she was a vegan for health reasons. She was probably doing what she believed - serving people what they want while she adhered to a healthy diet. Some people are vegans for health reasons and are not at all interested in animals. Jo - yarrow Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:49 PM RE: Re: A meaty matter cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for "health" reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's "what people want." If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 To Valley Vegan: I TOTALLY agree with you; (I even found the name of a good vegan caterer and stored it, just case I ever throw an affair or party.) The logic is so out of line with veganism. I refuse to bring in or cook animal products in my own kitchen. This person is trying to justify their behavior but in a ridiculously inappropriate way, especially coming from someone "calling" themselves Vegan. I THINK this person should find another ethical job! Thank you. Gigi Peter VV <swpgh01 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 2:43 pm Re: Re: A meaty matter I just cant understand that, and yes that is my problem and one of my shortcomings, but vegan without thinking about the origin of the meat, the poor animals? I have heard veganism called a compassionate lifestyle, but veganism for just diet? sorry , but I see nothing compassionate about handling lumps of dead flesh.....what about vegan abatoir workers?...(just my opinion) The Valley Vegan................ jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: but she said she was a vegan for health reasons. She was probably doing what she believed - serving people what they want while she adhered to a healthy diet. Some people are vegans for health reasons and are not at all interested in animals. Jo - yarrow Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:49 PM RE: Re: A meaty matter cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for "health" reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's "what people want." If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 That is it exactly Peter. They are not vegan for compassionate reasons, merely for their health. Jo - Peter VV Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:43 PM Re: Re: A meaty matter I just cant understand that, and yes that is my problem and one of my shortcomings, but vegan without thinking about the origin of the meat, the poor animals? I have heard veganism called a compassionate lifestyle, but veganism for just diet? sorry , but I see nothing compassionate about handling lumps of dead flesh.....what about vegan abatoir workers?...(just my opinion) The Valley Vegan................jo <jo.heartwork wrote: but she said she was a vegan for health reasons. She was probably doing what she believed - serving people what they want while she adhered to a healthy diet. Some people are vegans for health reasons and are not at all interested in animals. Jo - yarrow Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:49 PM RE: Re: A meaty matter cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for "health" reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's "what people want." If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Yes, but since she had determined that it was unhealthy to eat slabs of cream cheese and hard cheese, it seemed unethical (to me) that she would promote these products to other people, and also to sell them as " health " food. Even if her reasons were only health reasons, it seemed unethical to be pushing something she knew to be unhealthy. I guess it's like the drug dealer who doesn't take drugs. Of course, nonvegans thought it was " nice " that she made them treats with unhealthy ingredients. At 7:29 PM +0100 8/14/07, jo wrote: but she said she was a vegan for health reasons. She was probably doing what she believed - serving people what they want while she adhered to a healthy diet. Some people are vegans for health reasons and are not at all interested in animals. Jo - yarrow Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:49 PM RE: Re: A meaty matter cognitive dissonance? Another example (much less extreme): I met someone once who claimed she was vegan (for " health " reasons) but had a small business making sandwiches and baked goods for a local natural-foods store. The items she made were heavy on dairy -- lots of thick cream cheese -- and she claimed that even though it's not something she would eat, it's " what people want. " If they really believed what they claimed to believe, they could not be doing what they were doing. (I can empathize with cognitive dissonance in other areas of life, though. I still drive cars, despite everything I know and believe.) At 6:17 PM +0100 8/14/07, Peter VV wrote: Is this a joke?, read it and see what you think?Its from Nevada County ( The Union.com) Vegan butcher educates customers about naturally produced meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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