Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia (Moscow). I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer one day. Looking forward to being a part of ... P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi Lena Welcoem to the group. Your English sounds good to me :-) Jo , " being_vegan " <phrases_simples wrote: > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 hiya welcome to the group!! x--- In , " being_vegan " <phrases_simples wrote: > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start any discusions you like. What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impression of your country is not always favourable, so do tell? Your english is better that mine! Best Wishes. The Valley Vegan............being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia(Moscow).I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarianand I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-)I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmerone day.Looking forward to being a part of ...P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem.Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I don't think your " media fed impression " is very misleading. :-) Vegans are rather rare here - hence the negative reactions towards veganism are rather widespread. My personal experience is that people can tolerate you as a vegetarian pretty well, but a vegan (actually, the word itself is almost unknown) is often treated as a complete idiot. Sadly, the common idea is that our country is too poor to care for animals - and that is what I hate most about being a vegan in Russia. We also don't have all these things like soy ice cream, soy cheese and vegan doughnuts... (which is not a real problem) and finding a not-tested-whatever is sometimes not easy... (which is a real problem). , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start any discusions you like. > What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impression of your country is not always favourable, so do tell? > Your english is better that mine! > Best Wishes. > The Valley Vegan............ > > being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 welcome lena i'm sure your english is much better then mine! heh fraggle being_vegan Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM kind of introduction My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia(Moscow).I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarianand I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-)I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmerone day.Looking forward to being a part of ...P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 it is not so easy to vegan in spain too --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: welcome lena i'm sure your english is much better then mine! heh fraggle being_vegan Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM kind of introduction My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia (Moscow). I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer one day. Looking forward to being a part of ... P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe ______________________________\ ____ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi Lena, yes the media does portray most of Russia as a country ( especially under Putin ) that seems to be if not standing still in terms of human rights, etc then going backward ( apart from a select few rich ), I cant imagine what it must be like for kids telling their parents that they want to go vegie never mind vegan! Can you order stuff into Russia on mail order? probably mega expensive? The Valley Vegan..............being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: I don't think your "media fed impression" is very misleading. :-)Vegans are rather rare here - hence the negative reactionstowards veganism are rather widespread.My personal experience is that people can tolerate you as a vegetarianpretty well, but a vegan (actually, the word itself is almost unknown)is often treated as a complete idiot.Sadly, the common idea is that our country is too poor to care foranimals - and that is what I hate most about being a vegan inRussia.We also don't have all these things like soy ice cream, soy cheese andvegan doughnuts... (which is not a real problem)and finding a not-tested-whatever is sometimes not easy... (which is areal problem). , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:>> H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start anydiscusions you like.> What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impressionof your country is not always favourable, so do tell?> Your english is better that mine!> Best Wishes.> The Valley Vegan............> > being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote:> My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girlfrom Russia> (Moscow).> I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian> and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-)> I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer> one day.> > Looking forward to being a part of ...> > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem.> > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.>Peter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hi Lena, I think your English is excellent and welcome. All of my grandparents were from Russia. I am vegan now for about a year and love everything about eating a vegan diet. To some members of the group: I am at a conflict about what to do when I see occasional "ants" in my kitchen and crawling around my cat's food bowl which I "try" to keep clean at all times. I cannot say I haven't killed them b/c I have. Being vegan now makes me more aware. (when I see the occasional spider or something "big" inside my house from the outside, I try and catch it in a cup and put it outside again. I'm far from perfect from I am trying! Peter VV <swpgh01 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:26 pm Re: Re: kind of introduction Hi Lena, yes the media does portray most of Russia as a country ( especially under Putin ) that seems to be if not standing still in terms of human rights, etc then going backward ( apart from a select few rich ), I cant imagine what it must be like for kids telling their parents that they want to go vegie never mind vegan! Can you order stuff into Russia on mail order? probably mega expensive? The Valley Vegan.............. being_vegan <phrases_simples > wrote: I don't think your "media fed impression" is very misleading. :-) Vegans are rather rare here - hence the negative reactions towards veganism are rather widespread. My personal experience is that people can tolerate you as a vegetarian pretty well, but a vegan (actually, the word itself is almost unknown) is often treated as a complete idiot. Sadly, the common idea is that our country is too poor to care for animals - and that is what I hate most about being a vegan in Russia. We also don't have all these things like soy ice cream, soy cheese and vegan doughnuts... (which is not a real problem) and finding a not-tested-whatever is sometimes not easy... (which is a real problem). , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start any discusions you like. > What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impression of your country is not always favourable, so do tell? > Your english is better that mine! > Best Wishes. > The Valley Vegan............ > > being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. > > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > Peter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 It sounds very difficult. I admire your determination, and wish you luck.. Jo - " being_vegan " <phrases_simples Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:59 PM Re: kind of introduction > I don't think your " media fed impression " is very misleading. :-) > > Vegans are rather rare here - hence the negative reactions > towards veganism are rather widespread. > My personal experience is that people can tolerate you as a vegetarian > pretty well, but a vegan (actually, the word itself is almost unknown) > is often treated as a complete idiot. > Sadly, the common idea is that our country is too poor to care for > animals - and that is what I hate most about being a vegan in > Russia. > > We also don't have all these things like soy ice cream, soy cheese and > vegan doughnuts... (which is not a real problem) > and finding a not-tested-whatever is sometimes not easy... (which is a > real problem). > > , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > > > H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start any > discusions you like. > > What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impression > of your country is not always favourable, so do tell? > > Your english is better that mine! > > Best Wishes. > > The Valley Vegan............ > > > > being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl > from Russia > > (Moscow). > > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > > one day. > > > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans there? how about vegan foodstuffs? The Valley Vegan................Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: it is not so easy to vegan in spain too--- fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> escribió:welcome lenai'm sure your english is much better then mine!hehfraggle being_vegan Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM kind of introduction My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegangirl from Russia(Moscow).I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being anovo-lacto vegetarianand I've been a vegansexual long before they inventedthis word. :-)I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become aserious programmerone day.Looking forward to being a part of ...P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be abig problem." Naturally the common people don't want war: Neitherin Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter inGermany. That is understood. But, after all, it is theleaders of the country who determine the policy and itis always a simple matter to drag the people along,whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship,or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought tothe bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you haveto do is tell them they are being attacked, anddenounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism andexposing the country to danger. It works the same inany country. "- General Herman Goering, President ofGerman Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe________Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.htmlPeter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hi Peter, 1) The political situation in Russia is somewhat complicated, but you got the right picture. 2) There are different parents, probably even supportive ones... somewhere... But there is definitely not enough positive information (in Russian) about veganism from sources which people would trust. It is funny, but when I go to a doctor, I never say I'm a vegan, I don't even say I'm vegetarian - 'cause they've already told me that not eating meat is a form of suicide. :-) 3) Mail order is of course a way out which I'm about to explore. Unfortunately they not always ship to Russia and if they do, the shipment itself is not that cheap – I mean, people from Moscow (we live way better than the rest of the country) usually can afford it, but I'm not sure about vegans from other parts of Russia... Lena , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > Hi Lena, yes the media does portray most of Russia as a country ( especially under Putin ) that seems to be if not standing still in terms of human rights, etc then going backward ( apart from a select few rich ), I cant imagine what it must be like for kids telling their parents that they want to go vegie never mind vegan! > Can you order stuff into Russia on mail order? probably mega expensive? > > The Valley Vegan.............. > > being_vegan <phrases_simples wrote: > I don't think your " media fed impression " is very misleading. :-) > > Vegans are rather rare here - hence the negative reactions > towards veganism are rather widespread. > My personal experience is that people can tolerate you as a vegetarian > pretty well, but a vegan (actually, the word itself is almost unknown) > is often treated as a complete idiot. > Sadly, the common idea is that our country is too poor to care for > animals - and that is what I hate most about being a vegan in > Russia. > > We also don't have all these things like soy ice cream, soy cheese and > vegan doughnuts... (which is not a real problem) > and finding a not-tested-whatever is sometimes not easy... (which is a > real problem). > > , Peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote: > > > > H Lena and welcome, please feel free to join in or start any > discusions you like. > > What is it like being a vegan in Moscow, the media fed impression > of your country is not always favourable, so do tell? > > Your english is better that mine! > > Best Wishes. > > The Valley Vegan............ > > > > being_vegan <phrases_simples@> wrote: > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan girl > from Russia > > (Moscow). > > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an ovo-lacto vegetarian > > and I've been a vegansexual long before they invented this word. :-) > > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a serious programmer > > one day. > > > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a big problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > > Peter H > > > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 i'm been vegan the last 16 years. now there's a lot of people like this, and you can find food everywhere (i mean in the big cities like madrid, barcelona, burgos, valencia, bilbao, etc). i live in the mountains near madrid (1300 m high)in a real small village (100 people) so, you can imagine there's not much vegan stuff to find here. --- Peter VV <swpgh01 escribió: > What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans > there? how about vegan foodstuffs? > > The Valley Vegan................ > > Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: > it is not so easy to vegan in spain too > > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: > > > > > welcome lena > > i'm sure your english is much better then mine! > > heh > > fraggle > > > being_vegan > > Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM > > kind of introduction > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan > girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an > ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they > invented > this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a > serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a > big problem. > > " Naturally the common people don't want war: > Neither > in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in > Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is > the > leaders of the country who determine the policy and > it > is always a simple matter to drag the people along, > whether it is a democracy, or a fascist > dictatorship, > or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... > Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought > to > the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you > have > to do is tell them they are being attacked, and > denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and > exposing the country to danger. It works the same in > any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of > German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe > > ________ > Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine > ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te > ayuden! > http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone > who knows. Tryit now. ______________________________\ ____ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is bullfighting still big in Spain, or is its popularity dwindling? Do you have any Spanish influenced recipe that you could share? The Valley Vegan.............Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: i'm been vegan the last 16 years. now there's a lot ofpeople like this, and you can find food everywhere (imean in the big cities like madrid, barcelona, burgos,valencia, bilbao, etc). i live in the mountains nearmadrid (1300 m high)in a real small village (100people) so, you can imagine there's not much veganstuff to find here.--- Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> escribió:> What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans> there? how about vegan foodstuffs?> > The Valley Vegan................> > Carlos Arillo <dadatrott (AT) (DOT) es> wrote:> it is not so easy to vegan in spain too> > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> escribió:> > > > > welcome lena> > i'm sure your english is much better then mine!> > heh> > fraggle> > > being_vegan > > Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM > > kind of introduction > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan> girl from Russia> (Moscow).> I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an> ovo-lacto vegetarian> and I've been a vegansexual long before they> invented> this word. :-)> I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a> serious programmer> one day.> > Looking forward to being a part of ...> > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a> big problem.> > " Naturally the common people don't want war:> Neither> in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in> Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is> the> leaders of the country who determine the policy and> it> is always a simple matter to drag the people along,> whether it is a democracy, or a fascist> dictatorship,> or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...> Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought> to> the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you> have> to do is tell them they are being attacked, and> denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and> exposing the country to danger. It works the same in> any country. "- General Herman Goering, President of> German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe> >________> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine > ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te> ayuden!>http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html> > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone> who knows. Tryit now.________Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.htmlPeter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 i just read the other day that spanish tv will no longer air live coverage of bullfights... Peter VV Aug 23, 2007 12:30 PM Re: kind of introduction Is bullfighting still big in Spain, or is its popularity dwindling? Do you have any Spanish influenced recipe that you could share? The Valley Vegan.............Carlos Arillo <dadatrott (AT) (DOT) es> wrote: i'm been vegan the last 16 years. now there's a lot ofpeople like this, and you can find food everywhere (imean in the big cities like madrid, barcelona, burgos,valencia, bilbao, etc). i live in the mountains nearmadrid (1300 m high)in a real small village (100people) so, you can imagine there's not much veganstuff to find here.--- Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> escribió:> What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans> there? how about vegan foodstuffs?> > The Valley Vegan................> > Carlos Arillo <dadatrott (AT) (DOT) es> wrote:> it is not so easy to vegan in spain too> > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> escribió:> > > > > welcome lena> > i'm sure your english is much better then mine!> > heh> > fraggle> > > being_vegan > > Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM > > kind of introduction > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan> girl from Russia> (Moscow).> I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an> ovo-lacto vegetarian> and I've been a vegansexual long before they> invented> this word. :-)> I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a> serious programmer> one day.> > Looking forward to being a part of ...> > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a> big problem.> > " Naturally the common people don't want war:> Neither> in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in> Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is> the> leaders of the country who determine the policy and> it> is always a simple matter to drag the people along,> whether it is a democracy, or a fascist> dictatorship,> or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...> Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought> to> the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you> have> to do is tell them they are being attacked, and> denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and> exposing the country to danger. It works the same in> any country. "- General Herman Goering, President of> German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe> >________> Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine > ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te> ayuden!>http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html> > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone> who knows. Tryit now.________Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Peter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 there's still a lot of money around the bullfighting. so, in the last few years we notice that the media and the political parties are trying to put ip again, although the stadistics say that there's less people supporting this every year. --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: i just read the other day that spanish tv will no longer air live coverage of bullfights... Peter VV Aug 23, 2007 12:30 PM Re: kind of introduction Is bullfighting still big in Spain, or is its popularity dwindling? Do you have any Spanish influenced recipe that you could share? The Valley Vegan............. Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: i'm been vegan the last 16 years. now there's a lot of people like this, and you can find food everywhere (i mean in the big cities like madrid, barcelona, burgos, valencia, bilbao, etc). i live in the mountains near madrid (1300 m high)in a real small village (100 people) so, you can imagine there's not much vegan stuff to find here. --- Peter VV <swpgh01 escribió: > What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans > there? how about vegan foodstuffs? > > The Valley Vegan................ > > Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: > it is not so easy to vegan in spain too > > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: > > > > > welcome lena > > i'm sure your english is much better then mine! > > heh > > fraggle > > > being_vegan > > Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM > > kind of introduction > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan > girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an > ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they > invented > this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a > serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a > big problem. > > " Naturally the common people don't want war: > Neither > in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in > Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is > the > leaders of the country who determine the policy and > it > is always a simple matter to drag the people along, > whether it is a democracy, or a fascist > dictatorship, > or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... > Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought > to > the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you > have > to do is tell them they are being attacked, and > denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and > exposing the country to danger. It works the same in > any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of > German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe > > ________ > Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine > ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te > ayuden! > http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone > who knows. Tryit now. ________ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Peter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe ______________________________\ ____ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 there's still a lot of money around the bullfighting. so, in the last few years we notice that the media and the political parties are trying to put ip again, although the stadistics say that there's less people supporting this every year. --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: i just read the other day that spanish tv will no longer air live coverage of bullfights... Peter VV Aug 23, 2007 12:30 PM Re: kind of introduction Is bullfighting still big in Spain, or is its popularity dwindling? Do you have any Spanish influenced recipe that you could share? The Valley Vegan............. Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: i'm been vegan the last 16 years. now there's a lot of people like this, and you can find food everywhere (i mean in the big cities like madrid, barcelona, burgos, valencia, bilbao, etc). i live in the mountains near madrid (1300 m high)in a real small village (100 people) so, you can imagine there's not much vegan stuff to find here. --- Peter VV <swpgh01 escribió: > What is it like in spain? do you know many vegans > there? how about vegan foodstuffs? > > The Valley Vegan................ > > Carlos Arillo <dadatrott wrote: > it is not so easy to vegan in spain too > > --- fraggle <EBbrewpunx escribió: > > > > > welcome lena > > i'm sure your english is much better then mine! > > heh > > fraggle > > > being_vegan > > Aug 20, 2007 4:01 PM > > kind of introduction > > My name is Lena and I'm a 25 years old ethical vegan > girl from Russia > (Moscow). > I went vegan in 2005 after 4 years of being an > ovo-lacto vegetarian > and I've been a vegansexual long before they > invented > this word. :-) > I'm a freelance web-developer hoping to become a > serious programmer > one day. > > Looking forward to being a part of ... > > P.S. Hope that my far-from-native English won't be a > big problem. > > " Naturally the common people don't want war: > Neither > in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in > Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is > the > leaders of the country who determine the policy and > it > is always a simple matter to drag the people along, > whether it is a democracy, or a fascist > dictatorship, > or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... > Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought > to > the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you > have > to do is tell them they are being attacked, and > denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and > exposing the country to danger. It works the same in > any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of > German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe > > ________ > Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine > ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te > ayuden! > http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html > > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone > who knows. Tryit now. ________ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Peter H For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. " Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. " - General Herman Goering, President of German Reichstag Nazi Party, Commander of Luftwaffe ______________________________\ ____ Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents./reto/entretenimiento.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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