Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Why are they jerking this guy around so much? Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night, the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able to order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult to believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now struggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jail at: 916.874.6752 Fundraising The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gave us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks. Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the future! In Limine Hearing On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial begins on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the defense from "raising previously decided legal issues" - which would include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's website. Trial in less than a week! Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14 days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure that you are dressed appropriately for court. After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits have constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls. And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remains steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. Yours, Eric's Support Crew http://www.supporteric.org Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hi; can you tell me what he is in jail for? I agree that if he is vegan, they should keep allowing him his peanuts/peanut butter for protein. let me know. Thanks. Gigi Peter VV <swpgh01 Sun, 9 Sep 2007 2:43 pm Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - AGAIN Why are they jerking this guy around so much? Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night, the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able to order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult to believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now struggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jail at: 916.874.6752 Fundraising The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gave us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks. Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the future! In Limine Hearing On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial begins on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the defense from "raising previously decided legal issues" - which would include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's website. Trial in less than a week! Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14 days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure that you are dressed appropriately for court. After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits have constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls. And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remains steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. Yours, Eric's Support Crew http://www.supporteric.org Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network, which ensures vegan food and toiletries. Jo - Peter VV Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - AGAIN Why are they jerking this guy around so much? Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night, the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able to order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult to believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now struggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jail at: 916.874.6752 Fundraising The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gave us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks. Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the future! In Limine Hearing On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial begins on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the defense from "raising previously decided legal issues" - which would include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's website. Trial in less than a week! Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14 days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure that you are dressed appropriately for court. After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits have constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls. And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remains steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. Yours, Eric's Support Crew http://www.supporteric.org Peter H Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I " get " what this guy's going through, well not the jail part. <grin> I had major surgery a few years ago, I was told the in- hospital recovery time was a minimum of 5 weeks, but to count on longer. I couldn't even get a real " vegetarian " meal...they all had real parmesan cheese. The veggies were usually cooked with meat in them or swimming in butter. I was only getting a little packet of 2 saltines, a piece of fruit and maybe a small sample size of juice a day. A day! I never said a word, actually I felt too bad to say or do much of anything. Over the course of 3 days I had 3 different visits from staff from the food dept. Progressing to the head of the dept. who was actually the rudest of the three. She started screaming at me, here I am hooked up to IV's and she's yelling. I pointed out to her that I wanted to eat, but there weren't any choices that I could eat! She said I could " get over it " and eat the vegetarian food, so I pointed out that if the parmesan had casein it wasn't really vegetarian anyway. She (the dept head) asked me " what's casein? " ...awww geez. I even offered that if she would get some tofu I'd tell her how to fix it. Apparently the nurses overheard the situation because my surgeon appeared in the doorway behind the screaming, abusive woman and " escorted " her out. I ended up being sent home 5 days after surgery only because the doctor was concerned the lack of food would harm me. Later I found out the surgeon wrote a letter to the hospital detailing the situation and the hospital actually changed its policy to provide vegan meals on request. The surgeon said that's unusual because policy changes are not usually based on one case. I have a copy of the letter to the surgeon. Is this guy in for a long term? , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network, which ensures vegan food and toiletries. > > Jo > - > Peter VV > > Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM > Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - AGAIN > > > Why are they jerking this guy around so much? > Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night, the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able to order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult to believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now struggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jail at: 916.874.6752 > > Fundraising > The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gave us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks. Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the future! > > > In Limine Hearing > On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial begins on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the defense from " raising previously decided legal issues " - which would include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's website. > > > Trial in less than a week! > Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14 days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure that you are dressed appropriately for court. > > > > After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits have constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls. And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remains steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. > > Yours, > Eric's Support Crew > > http://www.supporteric.org > Peter H > > > > -- ---------- > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 That's horrible! They know full well if it were someone for religious or allegery reasons they wouldn't have an " issue " with the special meals. If he's convicted, he could face 20 years I believe.There 's a link in the OP to more on his story.On 9/9/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick wrote: I " get " what this guy's going through, well not the jail part.<grin> I had major surgery a few years ago, I was told the in- hospital recovery time was a minimum of 5 weeks, but to count onlonger. I couldn't even get a real " vegetarian " meal...they all hadreal parmesan cheese. The veggies were usually cooked with meat in them or swimming in butter. I was only getting a little packet of 2saltines, a piece of fruit and maybe a small sample size of juice aday. A day! I never said a word, actually I felt too bad to say ordo much of anything. Over the course of 3 days I had 3 different visits from staff from the food dept. Progressing to the head of thedept. who was actually the rudest of the three. She startedscreaming at me, here I am hooked up to IV's and she's yelling. Ipointed out to her that I wanted to eat, but there weren't any choices that I could eat! She said I could " get over it " and eat thevegetarian food, so I pointed out that if the parmesan had casein itwasn't really vegetarian anyway. She (the dept head) asked me " what's casein? " ...awww geez. I even offered that if she wouldget some tofu I'd tell her how to fix it.Apparently the nurses overheard the situation because my surgeonappeared in the doorway behind the screaming, abusive woman and " escorted " her out. I ended up being sent home 5 days aftersurgery only because the doctor was concerned the lack of food wouldharm me.Later I found out the surgeon wrote a letter to the hospital detailing the situation and the hospital actually changed its policyto provide vegan meals on request. The surgeon said that's unusualbecause policy changes are not usually based on one case. I have a copy of the letter to the surgeon. :)Is this guy in for a long term? , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:> > At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network,which ensures vegan food and toiletries.>> Jo> -> Peter VV> > Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM> Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - AGAIN>>> Why are they jerking this guy around so much? > Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night,the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that hecould eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was abagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch.This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able toorder from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to bevegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on justbread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, andhe only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult tobelieve the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet ismerely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is nowstruggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options forredress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call theSacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric withcomplete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jailat: 916.874.6752>> Fundraising> The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that wehave surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will godirectly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figurefrom Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gaveus many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for allof the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks.Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the future!>>> In Limine Hearing> On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial beginson Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government hasfiled two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude theuse of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude thedefense from " raising previously decided legal issues " - which would include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trialdefense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We areworking on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's website.>>> Trial in less than a week!> Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day willbe jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning onSeptember 11. We have been told that court will only be in session Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will(probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc.Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week,although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely thattrial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26.However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is forpeople to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize thisis complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and weshould have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. Andplease remember, if you are planning on attending trial make surethat you are dressed appropriately for court. >>>> After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very readyfor his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits haveconstantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls.And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remainssteadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all forstanding with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, yourjoy, and your outrage at injustices suffered.>> Yours,> Eric's Support Crew >> http://www.supporteric.org> Peter H>>>> > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.>To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Wow, ok well I was thinking if it were only a couple of months he might be able to " make do " . No, I don't think he should have to, but he could. But not for 20 years. What is he accused of doing? What's an OP? LOL , Mikeygirl9915 <mikeygrl9915 wrote: > > That's horrible! They know full well if it were someone for religious or > allegery reasons they wouldn't have an " issue " with the special meals. > > If he's convicted, he could face 20 years I believe.There's a link in the OP > to more on his story. > > On 9/9/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick wrote: > > > > I " get " what this guy's going through, well not the jail part. > > <grin> I had major surgery a few years ago, I was told the in- > > hospital recovery time was a minimum of 5 weeks, but to count on > > longer. I couldn't even get a real " vegetarian " meal...they all had > > real parmesan cheese. The veggies were usually cooked with meat in > > them or swimming in butter. I was only getting a little packet of 2 > > saltines, a piece of fruit and maybe a small sample size of juice a > > day. A day! I never said a word, actually I felt too bad to say or > > do much of anything. Over the course of 3 days I had 3 different > > visits from staff from the food dept. Progressing to the head of the > > dept. who was actually the rudest of the three. She started > > screaming at me, here I am hooked up to IV's and she's yelling. I > > pointed out to her that I wanted to eat, but there weren't any > > choices that I could eat! She said I could " get over it " and eat the > > vegetarian food, so I pointed out that if the parmesan had casein it > > wasn't really vegetarian anyway. She (the dept head) asked > > me " what's casein? " ...awww geez. I even offered that if she would > > get some tofu I'd tell her how to fix it. > > > > Apparently the nurses overheard the situation because my surgeon > > appeared in the doorway behind the screaming, abusive woman > > and " escorted " her out. I ended up being sent home 5 days after > > surgery only because the doctor was concerned the lack of food would > > harm me. > > > > Later I found out the surgeon wrote a letter to the hospital > > detailing the situation and the hospital actually changed its policy > > to provide vegan meals on request. The surgeon said that's unusual > > because policy changes are not usually based on one case. I have a > > copy of the letter to the surgeon. > > > > Is this guy in for a long term? > > > > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote: > > > > > > At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network, > > which ensures vegan food and toiletries. > > > > > > Jo > > > - > > > Peter VV > > > > > > Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM > > > Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - AGAIN > > > > > > > > > Why are they jerking this guy around so much? > > > Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night, > > the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he > > could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a > > bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have > > stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. > > This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is able to > > order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be > > vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, this is > > not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just > > bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and > > he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted all > > official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult to > > believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is > > merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now > > struggling to take care of his physical health as well as maintaining > > his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for > > redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the > > Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with > > complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food > > for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the jail > > at: 916.874.6752 > > > > > > Fundraising > > > The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we > > have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of you > > who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go > > directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure > > from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to get > > all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he gave > > us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all > > of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of weeks. > > Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in the > > future! > > > > > > > > > In Limine Hearing > > > On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial begins > > on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has > > filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his > > own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the > > use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the > > defense from " raising previously decided legal issues " - which would > > include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial > > defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are > > working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's > > website. > > > > > > > > > Trial in less than a week! > > > Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will > > be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on > > September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session > > Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will > > (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. > > Originally the government was speculating that trial would last 10-14 > > days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could > > possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, > > although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that > > trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. > > However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on > > attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for > > people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this > > is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that > > might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we > > should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And > > please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure > > that you are dressed appropriately for court. > > > > > > > > > > > > After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready > > for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits have > > constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than > > those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls. > > And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he remains > > steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with integrity > > and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for > > standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your > > joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. > > > > > > Yours, > > > Eric's Support Crew > > > > > > http://www.supporteric.org > > > Peter H > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- ---- > > ---------- > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try > > it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 OP = Original Post or Original Poster depending on the contextHe had 2 other co-defendants but they copped a plea because they didn't want to risk 20 years in jail and they're supposedly to cooperate and testify against Eric. They're accused of conspiracy to destroy property by means of fire or explosives. Apparently, the defense is that the " crime " was fabricated against them. It's part of the Green Scare. On 9/10/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick wrote: Wow, ok well I was thinking if it were only a couple of months hemight be able to " make do " . No, I don't think he should have to, buthe could. But not for 20 years.What is he accused of doing? What's an OP? LOL , Mikeygirl9915 <mikeygrl9915wrote:>> That's horrible! They know full well if it were someone for religious or> allegery reasons they wouldn't have an " issue " with the specialmeals.>> If he's convicted, he could face 20 years I believe.There's a linkin the OP> to more on his story. >> On 9/9/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick wrote:> >> > I " get " what this guy's going through, well not the jail part.> > <grin> I had major surgery a few years ago, I was told the in- > > hospital recovery time was a minimum of 5 weeks, but to count on> > longer. I couldn't even get a real " vegetarian " meal...they allhad> > real parmesan cheese. The veggies were usually cooked with meat in> > them or swimming in butter. I was only getting a little packetof 2> > saltines, a piece of fruit and maybe a small sample size of juicea> > day. A day! I never said a word, actually I felt too bad to say or> > do much of anything. Over the course of 3 days I had 3 different> > visits from staff from the food dept. Progressing to the head ofthe> > dept. who was actually the rudest of the three. She started > > screaming at me, here I am hooked up to IV's and she's yelling. I> > pointed out to her that I wanted to eat, but there weren't any> > choices that I could eat! She said I could " get over it " and eat the> > vegetarian food, so I pointed out that if the parmesan had caseinit> > wasn't really vegetarian anyway. She (the dept head) asked> > me " what's casein? " ...awww geez. I even offered that if she would > > get some tofu I'd tell her how to fix it.> >> > Apparently the nurses overheard the situation because my surgeon> > appeared in the doorway behind the screaming, abusive woman > > and " escorted " her out. I ended up being sent home 5 days after> > surgery only because the doctor was concerned the lack of foodwould> > harm me.> >> > Later I found out the surgeon wrote a letter to the hospital > > detailing the situation and the hospital actually changed itspolicy> > to provide vegan meals on request. The surgeon said that'sunusual> > because policy changes are not usually based on one case. I have a> > copy of the letter to the surgeon. > >> > Is this guy in for a long term?> >> > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote:> > >> > > At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network,> > which ensures vegan food and toiletries.> > > > > > Jo> > > -> > > Peter VV> > > > > > Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM > > > Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food -AGAIN> > >> > >> > > Why are they jerking this guy around so much?> > > Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday night,> > the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he> > could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a> > bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they have> > stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch.> > This means that the only food available to Eric is what he isable to> > order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be > > vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously,this is> > not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just> > bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, and> > he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhaustedall> > official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficultto> > believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet is> > merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now> > struggling to take care of his physical health as well asmaintaining> > his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for > > redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the> > Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with> > complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan food> > for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call thejail> > at: 916.874.6752> > >> > > Fundraising> > > The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that we> > have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all ofyou> > who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go> > directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final figure> > from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need toget> > all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that hegave> > us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for all> > of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple ofweeks.> > Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again inthe> > future!> > > > > >> > > In Limine Hearing> > > On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trialbegins> > on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has > > filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his> > own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the> > use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude the> > defense from " raising previously decided legal issues " - whichwould> > include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre-trial> > defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We are> > working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's> > website.> > >> > >> > > Trial in less than a week!> > > Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day will> > be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on> > September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session> > Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we will> > (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc.> > Originally the government was speculating that trial would last10-14> > days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could > > possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week,> > although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that> > trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. > > However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on> > attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for> > people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize this> > is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that> > might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we> > should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. And> > please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure> > that you are dressed appropriately for court.> > >> > >> > >> > > After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready > > for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spiritshave> > constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than> > those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete walls.> > And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, heremains> > steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward withintegrity> > and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all for> > standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your> > joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered.> > >> > > Yours,> > > Eric's Support Crew > > >> > > http://www.supporteric.org> > > Peter H> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------- ----> > ----------> > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows.Try> > it now.> > >> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I'm not too up on things apparently, " Green Scare " ? I'll look for the " op " and thanks for explaining. <grin> I had NO idea that property destruction could get you that much time... , Mikeygirl9915 <mikeygrl9915 wrote: > > OP = Original Post or Original Poster depending on the context > > He had 2 other co-defendants but they copped a plea because they didn't want > to risk 20 years in jail and they're supposedly to cooperate and testify > against Eric. They're accused of conspiracy to destroy property by means of > fire or explosives. Apparently, the defense is that the " crime " was > fabricated against them. It's part of the Green Scare. > > On 9/10/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick wrote: > > > > Wow, ok well I was thinking if it were only a couple of months he > > might be able to " make do " . No, I don't think he should have to, but > > he could. But not for 20 years. > > > > What is he accused of doing? What's an OP? LOL > > > > , Mikeygirl9915 <mikeygrl9915@> > > wrote: > > > > > > That's horrible! They know full well if it were someone for > > religious or > > > allegery reasons they wouldn't have an " issue " with the special > > meals. > > > > > > If he's convicted, he could face 20 years I believe.There's a link > > in the OP > > > to more on his story. > > > > > > On 9/9/07, tofuchick24 <tofuchick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I " get " what this guy's going through, well not the jail part. > > > > <grin> I had major surgery a few years ago, I was told the in- > > > > hospital recovery time was a minimum of 5 weeks, but to count on > > > > longer. I couldn't even get a real " vegetarian " meal...they all > > had > > > > real parmesan cheese. The veggies were usually cooked with meat > > in > > > > them or swimming in butter. I was only getting a little packet > > of 2 > > > > saltines, a piece of fruit and maybe a small sample size of juice > > a > > > > day. A day! I never said a word, actually I felt too bad to say > > or > > > > do much of anything. Over the course of 3 days I had 3 different > > > > visits from staff from the food dept. Progressing to the head of > > the > > > > dept. who was actually the rudest of the three. She started > > > > screaming at me, here I am hooked up to IV's and she's yelling. I > > > > pointed out to her that I wanted to eat, but there weren't any > > > > choices that I could eat! She said I could " get over it " and eat > > the > > > > vegetarian food, so I pointed out that if the parmesan had casein > > it > > > > wasn't really vegetarian anyway. She (the dept head) asked > > > > me " what's casein? " ...awww geez. I even offered that if she would > > > > get some tofu I'd tell her how to fix it. > > > > > > > > Apparently the nurses overheard the situation because my surgeon > > > > appeared in the doorway behind the screaming, abusive woman > > > > and " escorted " her out. I ended up being sent home 5 days after > > > > surgery only because the doctor was concerned the lack of food > > would > > > > harm me. > > > > > > > > Later I found out the surgeon wrote a letter to the hospital > > > > detailing the situation and the hospital actually changed its > > policy > > > > to provide vegan meals on request. The surgeon said that's > > unusual > > > > because policy changes are not usually based on one case. I have > > a > > > > copy of the letter to the surgeon. > > > > > > > > Is this guy in for a long term? > > > > > > > > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > At least over here there is the Vegan Prisoners Suppert network, > > > > which ensures vegan food and toiletries. > > > > > > > > > > Jo > > > > > - > > > > > Peter VV > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:43 PM > > > > > Re: Eric McDavid Denied Vegan Food - > > AGAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are they jerking this guy around so much? > > > > > Eric is still being denied a healthy diet. As of Friday > > night, > > > > the jail stopped bringing Eric breakfast and dinner trays that he > > > > could eat. The only vegan food the jail was bringing Eric was a > > > > bagged lunch with a peanut butter sandwich and fruit. Now, they > > have > > > > stopped providing him ANY vegan meals - not even the bagged lunch. > > > > This means that the only food available to Eric is what he is > > able to > > > > order from commissary and the food on his trays that happens to be > > > > vegan (usually a little fruit and bread each day). Obviously, > > this is > > > > not enough to meet his body's needs. No one can be healthy on just > > > > bread and fruit, there are few vegan options from the commissary, > > and > > > > he only has access to commissary once a week. Eric has exhausted > > all > > > > official channels for having his meals restored. It is difficult > > to > > > > believe the timing of this dramatic and abrupt change in his diet > > is > > > > merely a coincidence. With less than a week to trial, Eric is now > > > > struggling to take care of his physical health as well as > > maintaining > > > > his emotional and mental health. With all of Eric's options for > > > > redress being exhausted, we need your help! Please call the > > > > Sacramento County Jail and request that they provide Eric with > > > > complete vegan meals immediately. The have been giving him vegan > > food > > > > for the last 15 months and they can do it again. Please call the > > jail > > > > at: 916.874.6752 > > > > > > > > > > Fundraising > > > > > The last of the matching funds have been met! This means that > > we > > > > have surpassed our goal of $15,000. Our biggest thanks to all of > > you > > > > who helped make this possible. All of the money raised will go > > > > directly to Eric's legal defense. We still do not have a final > > figure > > > > from Eric's lawyer about how much money we will actually need to > > get > > > > all the way through trial - the $15,000 was an estimate that he > > gave > > > > us many months ago. While we hope this will be enough to pay for > > all > > > > of the legal fees, we won't be certain for another couple of > > weeks. > > > > Please stay tuned and be ready - we might need your help again in > > the > > > > future! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Limine Hearing > > > > > On Friday, Eric will have his final hearing before trial > > begins > > > > on Monday. This hearing is very important, as the government has > > > > filed two motions that seek to deny Eric the ability to choose his > > > > own defense strategy. The first motion is a motion to preclude the > > > > use of the entrapment defense. The second motion is to preclude > > the > > > > defense from " raising previously decided legal issues " - which > > would > > > > include all of the issues raised in virtually all of the pre- trial > > > > defense motions that Eric's lawyer filed in December/January. We > > are > > > > working on posting the government's In Limine motions on Eric's > > > > website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trial in less than a week! > > > > > Eric's trial begins on Monday, September 10. The first day > > will > > > > be jury selection, with opening arguments probably beginning on > > > > September 11. We have been told that court will only be in session > > > > Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. This means that we > > will > > > > (probably) be in court September 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, etc. > > > > Originally the government was speculating that trial would last > > 10-14 > > > > days - now they are only projecting 6. This means that we could > > > > possibly be done with closing arguments after the second week, > > > > although that seems somewhat unlikely. It seems more likely that > > > > trial will run into the third week - September 24, 25, and 26. > > > > However, nothing is certain. For those of you who are planning on > > > > attending trial, please keep in mind that Eric's preference is for > > > > people to be there, if possible, at the end of trial. We realize > > this > > > > is complicated by the fact that we don't actually know WHEN that > > > > might be... We'll keep everyone updated as trial progresses and we > > > > should have a better sense of the timeline as things move along. > > And > > > > please remember, if you are planning on attending trial make sure > > > > that you are dressed appropriately for court. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After almost 20 months in Total Separation, Eric is very ready > > > > for his trial to get started. His strong heart and good spirits > > have > > > > constantly amazed us - he often seems to handle things better than > > > > those of us who are not locked behind steel doors and concrete > > walls. > > > > And while he is aware that this will not be an easy fight, he > > remains > > > > steadfast and secure in his decision to move forward with > > integrity > > > > and to fight these outrageous charges against him. Thank you all > > for > > > > standing with him, for supporting him, for sharing your love, your > > > > joy, and your outrage at injustices suffered. > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > Eric's Support Crew > > > > > > > > > > http://www.supporteric.org > > > > > Peter H > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ---- > > ---- > > > > ---------- > > > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. > > Try > > > > it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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