diet books, was more on man the hunted if you're interested

September 13, 2007

Don't try to tell me what to think or say, let people defend

theirself, who are you a vegan stormtrooper? I am in no box, just

because you can't debate doesn't mean debate should be outlawed..

unless this is your group and you plan on excommunicating me mind your

own business, and if it is your group, throw me out, I'm not going to

learn anymore here anyway. As I said, NO TYPE O long term vegans have

come forth so I still lean towards a blood type theory explaining that

than any demagoguery which is all you seem capable of! and I have

entertained other thoughts here than discussion of blood type and

possible dietic connections but you have tunnel vision and are zeroing

in on me for what seems like personal dislike, very primitive behaviour.

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> Ron

>

> Your reply seems to be rude. It is no good reminding other people

to think

> outside their boxes when you are in a box dominated by blood type

theory,

> and you don't seem to want to think about anything else. Please let

this

> theme drop.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Ron " <ron.zzxx

>

> Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:00 PM

> " diet " books, was Re: more on " man the hunted " if

> you're interested

>

> > For the love of humanity we all may have to think outside of our

> > boxes one day. Your reply reminds me of some wealthy person who has

> > no sympathy for those less fortunate. This issue may be to the

> > benefit of veganism.

>

September 13, 2007

ok Ron my man..i asked you to play nice....

enough....

Ron Sep 13, 2007 12:37 PM "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

Don't try to tell me what to think or say, let people defendtheirself, who are you a vegan stormtrooper? I am in no box, justbecause you can't debate doesn't mean debate should be outlawed..unless this is your group and you plan on excommunicating me mind yourown business, and if it is your group, throw me out, I'm not going tolearn anymore here anyway. As I said, NO TYPE O long term vegans havecome forth so I still lean towards a blood type theory explaining thatthan any demagoguery which is all you seem capable of! and I haveentertained other thoughts here than discussion of blood type andpossible dietic connections but you have tunnel vision and are zeroingin on me for what seems like personal dislike, very primitive behaviour. , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> Ron> > Your reply seems to be rude. It is no good reminding other peopleto think> outside their boxes when you are in a box dominated by blood typetheory,> and you don't seem to want to think about anything else. Please letthis> theme drop.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx> > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:00 PM> "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if> you're interested> > > > For the love of humanity we all may have to think outside of our> > boxes one day. Your reply reminds me of some wealthy person who has> > no sympathy for those less fortunate. This issue may be to the> > benefit of veganism.>

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

September 13, 2007

Ron, I have said it before, there is one book ( if you are genuinely interested in a vegan diet ) by Stephen Walsh - Plant based nutrition and health- that you should read. It is a bit dry as it contains a lot of scientific facts, but it might answer some of your questions.

Peter H

Ron <ron.zzxx Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 8:37:19 PM "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

Don't try to tell me what to think or say, let people defendtheirself, who are you a vegan stormtrooper? I am in no box, justbecause you can't debate doesn't mean debate should be outlawed..unless this is your group and you plan on excommunicating me mind yourown business, and if it is your group, throw me out, I'm not going tolearn anymore here anyway. As I said, NO TYPE O long term vegans havecome forth so I still lean towards a blood type theory explaining thatthan any demagoguery which is all you seem capable of! and I haveentertained other thoughts here than discussion of blood type andpossible dietic connections but you have tunnel vision and are zeroingin on me for what seems like personal dislike, very primitive behaviour.@gro ups.com, "jo" <jo.heartwork@ ...> wrote:>>

Ron> > Your reply seems to be rude. It is no good reminding other peopleto think> outside their boxes when you are in a box dominated by blood typetheory,> and you don't seem to want to think about anything else. Please letthis> theme drop.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx@.. .>> <@gro ups.com>> Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:00 PM> "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if> you're interested> > > > For the love of humanity we all may have to think outside of our> > boxes one day. Your reply reminds me of some wealthy person who has> > no sympathy for those less fortunate. This issue may be to the> > benefit of

veganism.>

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September 13, 2007

Ron

I would like to point out that this is a vegan site, and all conversation should not be offensive to vegans.

Jo

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veganfitness

Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:18 PM

Re: "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

To Ron, I agree with Jo who said it is time to MOVE ON from your "blood" type theories. No one cares

anymore and it is annoying. As for your insinuating that I sound "wealthy", well, my friend, just the opposite. I don't work because of health issues that occurred about 10 years ago.. Since I gave up meat and turned vegan one year ago, my health has improved and my blood reports are "perfect" despite what I have going on. It is very easy to eat an INexpensive Vegan diet. NEXT TOPIC. If you have to justify your meat eating ways, then you're going to do whatever you want anyway. Who cares. I don't. Good luck to you regardless of you having to justify eating meat. Next................Ron <ron.zzxx Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:00 pm "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

For the love of humanity we all may have to think outside of our boxes one day. Your reply reminds me of some wealthy person who has no sympathy for those less fortunate. This issue may be to the benefit of veganism. , veganfitness wrote:>> > Hi Ryan, I am not sure what my blood type and honestly don't give it much thought. Regardless of what it is, my blood work comes back in great shape; I think its time to go past the Blood type topic and move on. It is not important to me; all I care about is that the diet works for me and my blood work all came back excellent. > ?? If you are stuck on this view, then keep doing your research; my veganism concerns my feelings about the rights of all animals and eating a healthy plant based diet. Good luck. Gigi> > > > > > yarrow > Wed, 12 Sep 2007 2:14 am> "diet" books, was Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 2:46 PM -0700 9/11/07, fraggle wrote:> > ...i mean...i could come up with a diet that said "people would blue > > eyes should eat cranberries because of of the lightness of their eyes > > and the reflective qualities there of"> > >>> > > > ...and I'd bet you could sell lots of copies of an "eye color > > correlated to what type of berries you need to eat" diet.> > > > The market for "diet" books is wacky. I think people are looking for > > authorities to tell them what they want to hear, or how to > > rationalize what they are doing, and it doesn't matter whether the > > info is reality-based.> > > > Reminds me of the psychologist who divided students into 2 groups, > > those with blue and brown eyes, and attributed different qualities to > > each. Result was that behavior changed based on expectations -- in > > extreme ways.> > > > Lesson: don't discount the power of beliefs and expectations -- often > > more powerful than any other factor.> > > > Rambling...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________> Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.>

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September 13, 2007

Ron

You are being rude again. I am a moderator on this group. I have asked you

to be polite and sensitive to the vegan ethic. Please do so.

Jo

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" Ron " <ron.zzxx

Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:37 PM

" diet " books, was Re: more on " man the hunted " if

you're interested

> Don't try to tell me what to think or say, let people defend

> theirself, who are you a vegan stormtrooper? I am in no box, just

> because you can't debate doesn't mean debate should be outlawed..

> unless this is your group and you plan on excommunicating me mind your

> own business, and if it is your group, throw me out, I'm not going to

> learn anymore here anyway. As I said, NO TYPE O long term vegans have

> come forth so I still lean towards a blood type theory explaining that

> than any demagoguery which is all you seem capable of! and I have

> entertained other thoughts here than discussion of blood type and

> possible dietic connections but you have tunnel vision and are zeroing

> in on me for what seems like personal dislike, very primitive behaviour.

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

> >

> > Ron

> >

> > Your reply seems to be rude. It is no good reminding other people

> to think

> > outside their boxes when you are in a box dominated by blood type

> theory,

> > and you don't seem to want to think about anything else. Please let

> this

> > theme drop.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > -

> > " Ron " <ron.zzxx

> >

> > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:00 PM

> > " diet " books, was Re: more on " man the hunted " if

> > you're interested

> >

> > > For the love of humanity we all may have to think outside of our

> > > boxes one day. Your reply reminds me of some wealthy person who has

> > > no sympathy for those less fortunate. This issue may be to the

> > > benefit of veganism.

> >

>

> To send an email to -

>

September 13, 2007

Ron

As you have already been put on moderation I will not answer in full. I do

find it offensive (which you may interpret as dislike) that you join a vegan

group and talk so much about meat, admit that you are not really interested

in animal welfare etc. Some sensitivity and empathy would be good traits

for you to cultivate.